The IOC should be grateful...
Bob Schwartz
players smoking and drinking (who would ever imagine!)
they should thank their lucky stars that no one has
gotten popped yet for dope. This is especially relevant
given the role of the Olympics as the primary driver
in sports doping.
And especially, especially relevant given the role of
steroids in hockey player development.
I swear, the Olympics are run by retards.
Bob Schwartz
z
Excessive partying should be mandatory for the winners.
Brad Anders
wrote:
> I swear, the Olympics are run by retards.
Bob, you can't say that word any more.
Brad "PC Cop" Anders
Bob Schwartz
The discourse here is easier to take if you resort to
doping. Ask Curtis about the bourbon-based protocol.
Bob Schwartz
Kurgan Gringioni
"Brad Anders" <pban...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Dumbass -
I agree.
The Olympics are run by dumbasses.
thanks,
Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
K. Fred Gauss
> I swear, the Olympics are run by retards.
Also, watched by retards.
Tom Kunich
news:4b884fd6$1...@news.x-privat.org...
> Bob Schwartz wrote:
>
>> I swear, the Olympics are run by retards.
>
> Also, watched by retards.
It didn't used to be that way.
WTF
<No...@not.ca> wrote:
It already is........
Emergency shipment of condoms headed to Olympic athletes
* February 24, 2010 6:07 PM >
* By John Shmuel
K. Fred Gauss
That's just fucking crazy.
Ryan Cousineau
Bob Schwartz <bob.sc...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net> wrote:
> Before they get their undies in a twist over hockey
> players smoking and drinking (who would ever imagine!)
> they should thank their lucky stars that no one has
> gotten popped yet for dope.
Yeah, but they excluded 30 Olympic athletes for doping violations. But
they did it before the start of the games, so it's less scary that way.
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KurganGringioni
"Ryan Cousineau" <rcou...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rcousine-A813CA.20213126022010@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
: In article <cJudneb9f77xQBrW...@giganews.com>,
: Bob Schwartz <bob.sc...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net> wrote:
:
: > Before they get their undies in a twist over hockey
: > players smoking and drinking (who would ever imagine!)
: > they should thank their lucky stars that no one has
: > gotten popped yet for dope.
:
: Yeah, but they excluded 30 Olympic athletes for doping violations. But
: they did it before the start of the games, so it's less scary that way.
Dumbass -
They're getting smarter about it.
That's the way to get in front of the issue PR-wise.
thanks,
Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
ps. p0wn the podium!!
bjwe...@gmail.com
wrote:
Dumbass,
IOC investigation = taking the problem with utmost
seriousness until all the hand-wringers and sports
columnists forget about it, then sweeping it under the
rug where it belongs. Just like doping. In terms of
preserving the product before everything else, the IOC
makes the UCI look like, well, amateurs.
Canadians drink beer, film at 11!
If this had happened in a real country like Slovakia
rather than Canada where the national sport is
wringing hands over what image Canada is projecting
to everyone else (as if everyone else was looking),
this wouldn't even be a page 4 news item.
Ben
RBR Amateurism Expert
Michael Press
<a82a54f5-3e0d-4f64...@m35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
Brad Anders <pban...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hard to figure why calling somebody a retard is a
hanging offense. Ever think about the word? It is a
euphemism. Those kids are not retarded. They ain't
never catching up. You are doing them a favor with
retard. They are what is left after you make a pinochle
deck. But in these sensitive times simply skip over
`retard' and go for `feeble minded', or `brain damaged'
or `simpleton.' Or not. I ignore it mostly, except
sometimes. So, is there a safe word?
--
Michael Press
Ryan Cousineau
Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
No, and if you follow the history, not only did "retarded" start out as
a euphemism ("imbecile," was one of several narrow classifications that
predated it), it's been one of several terms that have attempted to stay
out front of pejorative usage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_H._Goddard#Vineland
Thus retarded, challenged, special, different, and whatever other
euphemism is in current use will always become pejorative, as long as
what they're meant to describe is a person with diminished mental
capacity (another one!). The concept is inherently insulting when
applied to people of normal mental capacity.
Stupid is as stupid does,
Ryan Cousineau
"KurganGringioni" <soulinth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
>
> ps. p0wn the podium!!
What's that? I can't hear you over ALL THIS GOLD!
Donald Munro
>>> I swear, the Olympics are run by retards.
K. Fred Gauss wrote:
>> Also, watched by retards.
Tom Kunich wrote:
> It didn't used to be that way.
>
I am resisting temptation; where are my brownie points ?
Donald Munro
> Before they get their undies in a twist over hockey
> players smoking and drinking (who would ever imagine!)
Dumbass,
The IOC representatives have stained undies.
Kurgan Gringioni
> In article <hma6mp$8a6$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "KurganGringioni" <soulinth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
>>
>> ps. p0wn the podium!!
>
> What's that? I can't hear you over ALL THIS GOLD!
OWN THE PODIUM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Press
<rcousine-0C6123.00284327022010@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>,
Ryan Cousineau <rcou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <rubrum-98DC0E....@news.albasani.net>,
> Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <a82a54f5-3e0d-4f64...@m35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> > Brad Anders <pban...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Feb 26, 7:40Â am, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I swear, the Olympics are run by retards.
> > >
> > > Bob, you can't say that word any more.
> > >
> > > Brad "PC Cop" Anders
> >
> > Hard to figure why calling somebody a retard is a
> > hanging offense. Ever think about the word? It is a
> > euphemism. Those kids are not retarded. They ain't
> > never catching up. You are doing them a favor with
> > retard. They are what is left after you make a pinochle
> > deck. But in these sensitive times simply skip over
> > `retard' and go for `feeble minded', or `brain damaged'
> > or `simpleton.' Or not. I ignore it mostly, except
> > sometimes. So, is there a safe word?
>
> No, and if you follow the history, not only did "retarded" start out as
> a euphemism ("imbecile," was one of several narrow classifications that
> predated it), it's been one of several terms that have attempted to stay
> out front of pejorative usage.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_H._Goddard#Vineland
>
> Thus retarded, challenged, special, different, and whatever other
> euphemism is in current use will always become pejorative, as long as
> what they're meant to describe is a person with diminished mental
> capacity (another one!). The concept is inherently insulting when
> applied to people of normal mental capacity.
>
> Stupid is as stupid does,
I do not mind people calling people retard when the
target has the capacity but does not live up to it;
though I do not use invective in that way: to say
somebody _is_ something that they are not; but that is
more a result of reading Alfred Korzybski. Maybe there
is something actually wrong with it. I do not know. If
there is then it is not a slight of the truly <current euphemism>.
Sometimes I will say that someone is _acting_ stupid.
--
Michael Press
Donald Munro
> Sometimes I will say that someone is _acting_ stupid.
Ah, so we're all just acting dumbasses.
cur...@the-md-russells.org
Besides,one of the nation's largest advocacy and (separately) largest
non-profit support organization for those less developed mentally uses
'retarded citizens' as part of their names.
Kind of like complaining, as some do, that using Indian instead of
Native American is no longer PC. You can take your complaint to the
Bureau of Indian Affairs on that one - the sinecure for politically
connected Indians.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
cur...@the-md-russells.org
wrote:
>
>Hard to figure why calling somebody a retard is a
>hanging offense. Ever think about the word? It is a
>euphemism. Those kids are not retarded. They ain't
>never catching up. You are doing them a favor with
>retard. They are what is left after you make a pinochle
>deck. But in these sensitive times simply skip over
>`retard' and go for `feeble minded', or `brain damaged'
>or `simpleton.' Or not. I ignore it mostly, except
>sometimes. So, is there a safe word?
Mental retardation is a diagnosis in many - probably most, but I don't
know - states in the U.S., so it can't get too non-PC. At one time
there evidently was a carefully calibrated system that used idiot,
mentally retarded, and a couple of other terms to indicate what level
of mental handicap the person had, but that was replaced by a
numbering system, either 4 (generally) or 5, also used for physical
handicap. A 4 by 4 would be a severely handicapped patient confined to
a wheelchair and unable to conduct basic body functions on their own
or any real level of communication - in our case, it was usually
severe stroke patients.
A level one, mental handicap only, probably only shows up when they
have odd or irregular behavior that brings them into the system.
So when you hear people that work in the system, you don't hear
references to idiot or retarded (at least, I never did), because they
are inexact. You hear references to 2 by 2's or 4 by 3's, because
generally, mentally handicapped end up physically handicapped, if by
excess weight if no other. And the reference is clear within most
contexts without further elaboration, unless you're talking about
physicians or social workers discussing treatment plans.
The numbers also lead directly to funding levels from the state and
feds, which I guess is pretty obvious.
The terms mentally handicapped or mentally retarded are used extremely
coommonly to refer to the population in general (most legislation in
the state of Maryland uses one of those two terms). It is non- PC only
when used directly to the person, which serves no useful purpose other
than to insult a level 1 or 2 handicapped individual. Since they are
often fully developed and have possibly lower levels for avoiding
violence as a solution, it strikes me as a poor choice of words for
several reasons.
Bob Schwartz
> At one time
> there evidently was a carefully calibrated system that used idiot,
> mentally retarded, and a couple of other terms to indicate what level
> of mental handicap the person had, but that was replaced by a
> numbering system, either 4 (generally) or 5, also used for physical
> handicap.
The IOC is run by Cat 5s.
Bob Schwartz
Ryan Cousineau
"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgrin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Still can't hear you. But the hockey game tomorrow is a toss-up.
Barry Taylor
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bjwe...@gmail.com
wrote:
> On Feb 26, 7:40 am, Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Before they get their undies in a twist over hockey
> > players smoking and drinking (who would ever imagine!)
> > they should thank their lucky stars that no one has
> > gotten popped yet for dope. This is especially relevant
> > given the role of the Olympics as the primary driver
> > in sports doping.
>
> > And especially, especially relevant given the role of
> > steroids in hockey player development.
>
> > I swear, the Olympics are run by retards.
>
> > Bob Schwartz
>
> Dumbass,
>
> IOC investigation = taking the problem with utmost
> seriousness until all the hand-wringers and sports
> columnists forget about it, then sweeping it under the
> rug where it belongs. Just like doping. In terms of
> preserving the product before everything else, the IOC
> makes the UCI look like, well, amateurs.
Here's another perspective. Probably not anything
you don't already know
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/27/AR2010022703315.html
but a good point that hand-wringing about
Canadian party animals is a way of dodging
responsibility for any actual important issues
(and I mean real important issues, not doping).
Ben
K. Fred Gauss
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/27/AR2010022703315.html
That's a thoughtful and interesting article. Thanks!