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7% gradient speed for Professional Cyclist?

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Ronko

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Mar 17, 2011, 5:27:00 PM3/17/11
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I'm doing some research for a local new road project that me be
inherently risky to cyclists as designed. This project will use mini-
roundabouts and force cyclist to "take the lane" as a traffic mitigating
and calming measure. The Designer and the US Dept of
Transportation list bike speeds as 12-20mph as useable speeds where
this can work. All these mini-roundabouts are on level ground, so the
12-20mph is realistic.

The design I am examining is on a narrow, winding street with a 7%
gradient. This is a long grind, I'm an average cyclist and usually do
this at about 5-6mph. Some cyclist will go faster, some slower.

Professional level Peloton racers, singley, go up 7% grades under
races conditions at about what speeds, if this can be estimated?

thanks to all!

DirtRoadie

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Mar 17, 2011, 6:13:21 PM3/17/11
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OK, obviously there are LOTS of factors that come into play but
14 mph is very realistic sustained pace for a top level pro climber on
a grade like that.

DR

thirty-six

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Mar 17, 2011, 8:50:14 PM3/17/11
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Depends on the length of the hill to climb his requirements as regards
the race and the physical condition he is in at the moment, but
anything up to a mile (on a 7% grade) may have little effect on his
average level riding speed, so could be 25-30mph maximum.
If that rider is required to stop at each roundabout, that speed
will diminish to something less than 20mph. As a WAG, it's about
14mph for continuous climbing.

Phil H

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Mar 18, 2011, 12:05:19 AM3/18/11
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14mph for an average pro for 20 min.
16mph for a world class pro for 20 min.

5.67 watts/kg for a UCI div1/11 pro. For a typical 66kg rider this
will be 374 watts for a sustainable 20 min effort.
At 20mph = 8.94 m/s which translates to a vertical ascent speed of .
626 m/s. For a 66+7 kg rider plus bike, this will be 447 watts.
We are a bit short on power at this speed.
14mph would be 313 watts which leaves a little over 60 watts for drag
and RR, doable if the guy is sucking wheel.
This is for a 20 minute effort, a world class pro develops 7 watts/kg
so a 66kg rider develops 460 watts. This would be closer to 16mph.
Power per kg data via Andy C
Phil H

thirty-six

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Mar 18, 2011, 9:30:53 AM3/18/11
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On Mar 18, 4:05 am, Phil H <pholma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 17, 2:27 pm, Ronko <ronkreu...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I'm doing some research for a local new road project that me be
> > inherently risky to cyclists as designed. This project will use mini-
> > roundabouts and force cyclist to "take the lane" as a traffic mitigating
> > and calming measure. The Designer and the US Dept of
> > Transportation list bike speeds as 12-20mph as useable speeds where
> > this can work. All these mini-roundabouts are on level ground, so the
> > 12-20mph is realistic.
>
> > The design I am examining is on a narrow, winding street with a 7%
> > gradient. This is a long grind, I'm an average cyclist and usually do
> > this at about 5-6mph.  Some cyclist will go faster, some slower.
>
> > Professional level Peloton racers, singley, go up 7% grades under
> > races conditions at about what speeds, if this can be estimated?
>
> > thanks to all!
>
> 14mph for an average pro for 20 min.
> 16mph for a world class pro for 20 min.
>
> 5.67 watts/kg for a UCI div1/11 pro. For a typical 66kg rider this
> will be 374 watts for a sustainable 20 min effort.
> At 20mph = 8.94 m/s which translates to a vertical ascent speed of .
> 626 m/s. For a 66+7 kg rider plus bike, this will be 447 watts.
> We are a bit short on power at this speed.
> 14mph would be 313 watts which leaves a little over 60 watts for drag
> and RR, doable if the guy is sucking wheel.

What if he's sucking nitroglycerine?

Phil H

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Mar 18, 2011, 9:15:50 PM3/18/11
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He'll blow up............. literally.
Phil H

Zenon

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Mar 19, 2011, 6:50:11 AM3/19/11
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Who gives a shit? Stop wasting your time.

Nagurski

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Mar 20, 2011, 10:12:22 PM3/20/11
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It's an interesting question (for a change), followed by an
interesting analysis, you stupid fuck.

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