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RicodJour

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Jul 24, 2010, 3:24:21 PM7/24/10
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A lot of the yahoos in here (I know that doesn't narrow it down much)
were happy to ignore the respect-the-yellow-jersey-having-a-mechanical
tradition. Well, tomorrow the whole day is a tradition day. Remember
the last time someone tried to attack on the last day and universal
excoriation they received?

I think Andy should give tit for tat and have Saxo attack tomorrow.
Fook the little sheep herder. Spoil his sipping champagne photo
shoots, his nice, slow, basking in the glory processional ride. Make
him work instead of leading a skinny guys' spinning class.

I doubt it would change anything, but it might get the idea across
about paying more attention to respecting traditions.

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Amit Ghosh

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Jul 24, 2010, 3:30:30 PM7/24/10
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dumbass,

these "unwritten rules" aren't arbitrary.

schleck trying to get a gap on contador on the flat final stage will
be futile - thus no one even bothers to try it.

RicodJour

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Jul 24, 2010, 3:56:49 PM7/24/10
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On Jul 24, 3:30 pm, Amit Ghosh <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 3:24 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>
> > A lot of the yahoos in here (I know that doesn't narrow it down much)
> > were happy to ignore the respect-the-yellow-jersey-having-a-mechanical
> > tradition.  Well, tomorrow the whole day is a tradition day.  Remember
> > the last time someone tried to attack on the last day and universal
> > excoriation they received?
>
> > I think Andy should give tit for tat and have Saxo attack tomorrow.
> > Fook the little sheep herder.  Spoil his sipping champagne photo
> > shoots, his nice, slow, basking in the glory processional ride.  Make
> > him work instead of leading a skinny guys' spinning class.
>
> > I doubt it would change anything, but it might get the idea across
> > about paying more attention to respecting traditions.
>
> dumbass,
>
> these "unwritten rules" aren't arbitrary.

Of course they are.

> schleck trying to get a gap on contador on the flat final stage will
> be futile - thus no one even bothers to try it.

Hence, my "I doubt it will change anything."

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Plano Dude

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Jul 24, 2010, 4:12:19 PM7/24/10
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HTC will be controlling the front. Nobody is getting away.

Plano Dude

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Jul 24, 2010, 4:18:40 PM7/24/10
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As far as that is concerned, I hope Cav wins the green jersey. He's
earned it.

If Cav can't win, then let it be McEwen. It seems like he's gone
through a compressed life cycle. Young brash sprinter, then quieted
down and just did his best for a few years. Now, God bless him, like
an old man, he's not going out of his way to draw attention to
himself, but if you ask him a question he'll tell you exactly what he
thinks. Nothing more, nothing less and he doesn't give a shit if you
like it or not.

A. Dumas

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Jul 24, 2010, 5:48:09 PM7/24/10
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RicodJour wrote:
> A lot of the yahoos in here (I know that doesn't narrow it down much)
> were happy to ignore the respect-the-yellow-jersey-having-a-mechanical
> tradition. Well, tomorrow the whole day is a tradition day. Remember
> the last time someone tried to attack on the last day and universal
> excoriation they received?

Zoetemelk attacked Hinault on the last day of the Tour in 1979. He was 3
minutes behind. Hinault followed & counter-attacked, the peloton was
shattered, they entered the Champs together. Hinault won the sprint, and
the Tour.

RicodJour

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Jul 24, 2010, 7:30:33 PM7/24/10
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. Let 'em duke it out.

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Anton Berlin

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Jul 24, 2010, 8:45:35 PM7/24/10
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Sorry ricco - i didn't see this post. Good thought.

It's Chris

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Jul 25, 2010, 12:33:48 PM7/25/10
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Re: TdF traditions

Group: rec.bicycles.racing Date: Sat, Jul 24, 2010, 12:30pm (EDT-3)
From: amit....@gmail.com (Amit Ghosh):

>dumbass,

>these "unwritten rules" aren't arbitrary.
>schleck trying to get a gap on contador
>on the flat final stage will be futile - thus
>no one even bothers to try it.

Tell that to the eleven who tried it :-3)

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Frederick the Great

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Jul 25, 2010, 6:14:17 PM7/25/10
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In article
<59f313b4-5334-4427...@e5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
RicodJour <rico...@worldemail.com> wrote:

The great tradition in competition is to attack and to
attack when attacked. Everything else is window dressing.
You appear to be a window dresser.

--
Old Fritz

RicodJour

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Jul 25, 2010, 8:02:34 PM7/25/10
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On Jul 25, 6:14 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> In article RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think Andy should give tit for tat and have Saxo attack tomorrow.
> > Fook the little sheep herder.  Spoil his sipping champagne photo
> > shoots, his nice, slow, basking in the glory processional ride.  Make
> > him work instead of leading a skinny guys' spinning class.
>
> > I doubt it would change anything, but it might get the idea across
> > about paying more attention to respecting traditions.
>
> The great tradition in competition is to attack and to
> attack when attacked. Everything else is window dressing.
> You appear to be a window dresser.
>
> --
> Old Fritz

And you seem a little bit angry...cross. I guess that makes you an
old cross dresser. :)~

R

A. Dumas

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Jul 26, 2010, 8:45:18 AM7/26/10
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A. Dumas wrote:
> Zoetemelk attacked Hinault on the last day of the Tour in 1979. He was 3
> minutes behind. Hinault followed & counter-attacked, the peloton was
> shattered, they entered the Champs together. Hinault won the sprint, and
> the Tour.

Hinault was interviewed on France 2 yesterday and he said there was
relentless attacking from numbers 3, 4 etc. on GC on every incline. He
decided he'd no longer put up with it and attacked. Zoetemelk followed
him and that's how it came about that the numbers 1 & 2 rode onto the
Champs Elysées together.

Sounds right about Zoetemelk wheelsucking.

Amit Ghosh

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Jul 26, 2010, 10:23:39 AM7/26/10
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On Jul 25, 12:33 pm, dedendaddy4spamm...@webtv.net (It's Chris) wrote:
> Re: TdF traditions  
>
> Group: rec.bicycles.racing Date: Sat, Jul 24, 2010, 12:30pm (EDT-3)
> From: amit.gh...@gmail.com (Amit Ghosh):

>
> >dumbass,
> >these "unwritten rules" aren't arbitrary.
> >schleck trying to get a gap on contador
> >on the flat final stage will be futile - thus
> >no one even bothers to try it.
>
> Tell that to the eleven who tried it :-3)
>

dumbass,

i'm talking about schleck getting a gap on contador, astana won't let
that happen.

riders who are down on GC are allowed to break away on flat stages all
the time.

Amit Ghosh

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Jul 26, 2010, 10:29:14 AM7/26/10
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On Jul 25, 6:14 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> The great tradition in competition is to attack and to
> attack when attacked. Everything else is window dressing.
> You appear to be a window dresser.
>

dumbass armchair DS,

have you ever ridden a bike race ?

attacking comes with a risk. when you attack, if you are caught you
risk getting dropped.

if you are trying to win, attacking and getting dropped is
counterproductive.

Michael Press

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Jul 26, 2010, 3:32:00 PM7/26/10
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In article
<e5fa189b-3127-4cfa...@r27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
RicodJour <rico...@worldemail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 25, 6:14 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > In article RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I think Andy should give tit for tat and have Saxo attack tomorrow.
> > > Fook the little sheep herder.  Spoil his sipping champagne photo
> > > shoots, his nice, slow, basking in the glory processional ride.  Make
> > > him work instead of leading a skinny guys' spinning class.
> >
> > > I doubt it would change anything, but it might get the idea across
> > > about paying more attention to respecting traditions.
> >
> > The great tradition in competition is to attack and to
> > attack when attacked. Everything else is window dressing.
> > You appear to be a window dresser.
>

> And you seem a little bit angry...cross. I guess that makes you an
> old cross dresser. :)~

Imitation is the second most sincere form of flattery.

--
Michael Press

Frederick the Great

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Jul 26, 2010, 5:49:01 PM7/26/10
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In article
<a4242835-be18-40f0...@q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Amit Ghosh <amit....@gmail.com> wrote:

You do not attack unless you calculate that the
probability of gaining an advantage, the expectation of
an advantage, and the utility of an advantage, are in
your favor. I am surprised I have to explain this to you.

--
Old Fritz

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