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Sim

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Mar 17, 2010, 6:12:06 AM3/17/10
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HELP! I'm looking for a 125mm road stem (31.8 clamp) I've looked
around and can't find one. It doesn't seem as if QBP have any.
Doesn't anyone out there at least know of any brands who if nothing
else "claim" to make a 125mm stem? Preferably not carbon and not
overpriced, not adjustable or anything silly like that. Someone told
me the Deda Newton comes in a 125, but QBP don't seem to stock it.

Any help much appreciated.
cheers
Sim Green

Victor Kan

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Mar 17, 2010, 7:43:34 AM3/17/10
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On Mar 17, 6:12 am, Sim <jetlagspo...@neuf.fr> wrote:
> ... Preferably not carbon and not

> overpriced, not adjustable or anything silly like that. Someone told
> me the Deda Newton comes in a 125, but QBP don't seem to stock it.

I just did a QBP search at aebike.com for 125mm 31.8 clamp stems and
it shows two adjustable (I know, not your preference) stems, one from
Dimension, one from Oval Concepts.

If you need something so specific as 125mm only, you should specify
what rise angle you want since a given 130mm or 120mm stem might give
you the same position at various rise angles and a rearrangement of
the spacer stacking.

Anton Berlin

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Mar 17, 2010, 10:43:07 AM3/17/10
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Buddy if you're this worried about position, you probably are one of
those freaks trying to shave 3 gms off of your rotational weight.

Here's a tip, take a big dump for every race and if you're still not
winning, hit the needle.

5mm is anal.

Scott

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Mar 17, 2010, 12:14:10 PM3/17/10
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Or, the OP could get a set of bars with a slightly longer reach and
just use a 120.

--D-y

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Mar 17, 2010, 12:17:41 PM3/17/10
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Following is a link to ebay>bike parts>stems>125:

<http://tinyurl.com/yd9p2g9>

No results for 12.5.

You're entirely welcome, if this helps.
--D-y

Sim

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Mar 17, 2010, 1:48:12 PM3/17/10
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5mm IS anal. I know, nuts. I've been riding for a while both with
130mm and 120mm. I can't change the frame, so I figured I'd go for a
125 stem. And I'm not a weight freak by any stretch of the
imagination. I would just be better off, and in the same position as
my preivous brand bikes on a 125mm. Thanks though.
Sim

Anton Berlin

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Mar 17, 2010, 1:51:47 PM3/17/10
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You idiots need to take an account the thickness of the bar wrap.
Just a single mm difference in thickness can throw your entire
position off !

What about the hydration of the person or whether they stretched or
did heavy weights recently?

The god damn measurments must be exact ! And every little change must
be reameassured against the entire set up.

I know two guys that died of spontaneous combustion caused by over
heating in their helmets because they failed to ccount for the angle
of incidence of the sun while traveling southwest in the spring at an
inclination of 234.598 degrees for more than 3 minutes and 47
seconds.

On the other hand I know several world champions that never even
actually rode or trained at all but spent all of their time making
sure their position was exact and making the changes neccesary to
create the perfect position.

Those gold medal are a testament to their wise decision to focus on
this critical element. Don't make the same mistake and let any
single measurement be off by more than .1 nanometer. And don't waste
your time with high priced bike parts. A Schwinn stingray and a Leica
laser measuring system is all you need.


Sim

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Mar 17, 2010, 1:52:17 PM3/17/10
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> --D-y- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Cheers all. The only thing I've found is a Deda Newton, but it's
apparently very rare in the US and I can't get hold of it over here
either. Ugh. If only my frame were a "normal" size.:)

Thank for all you're input.
Sim Green

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Mar 17, 2010, 9:57:38 PM3/17/10
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======

5mm IS anal. I know, nuts. I've been riding for a while both with
130mm and 120mm. I can't change the frame, so I figured I'd go for a
125 stem. And I'm not a weight freak by any stretch of the
imagination. I would just be better off, and in the same position as
my preivous brand bikes on a 125mm. Thanks though.
Sim
======

As was pointed out previously, you *can* have your 125 measurement, by
simply getting a stem with a different angle, and adjusting for the height
difference by using spacers above or below it. A 130mm 17degree stem in the
"up" position is likely go put you in-between (as in, about 125mm) a 120mm &
130mm 7degree stem (also in the "up" position).

And, as somebody else pointed out, you could get a bar with a
slightly-different forward reach. If you don't spend much time on the center
straight part of the bar, this will work just as well as a different stem.

Lots of ways to get there, once you've defined where "there" is.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


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brian_...@yahoo.com

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Mar 17, 2010, 10:30:08 PM3/17/10
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On Mar 17, 5:12 am, Sim <jetlagspo...@neuf.fr> wrote:

Get a Llwellen Stem kit (steel) and have one made to the exact length
you want.

z, fred

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Mar 17, 2010, 11:08:58 PM3/17/10
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Sim

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Mar 18, 2010, 3:53:55 AM3/18/10
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On Mar 18, 2:57 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
wrote:

> ======
> 5mm IS anal.  I know, nuts.  I've been riding for a while both with
> 130mm and 120mm.  I can't change the frame, so I figured I'd go for a
> 125 stem.  And I'm not a weight freak by any stretch of the
> imagination.  I would just be better off, and in the same position as
> my preivous brand bikes on a 125mm.    Thanks though.
> Sim
> ======
>
> As was pointed out previously, you *can* have your 125 measurement, by
> simply getting a stem with a different angle, and adjusting for the height
> difference by using spacers above or below it. A 130mm 17degree stem in the
> "up" position is likely go put you in-between (as in, about 125mm) a 120mm &
> 130mm 7degree stem (also in the "up" position).
>
> And, as somebody else pointed out, you could get a bar with a
> slightly-different forward reach. If you don't spend much time on the center
> straight part of the bar, this will work just as well as a different stem.
>
> Lots of ways to get there, once you've defined where "there" is.
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
> "Sim" <jetlagspo...@neuf.fr> wrote in message

>
> news:cbc1350a-b702-423d...@19g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 17, 3:43 pm, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 17, 5:12 am, Sim <jetlagspo...@neuf.fr> wrote:
>
> > > HELP! I'm looking for a 125mm road stem (31.8 clamp) I've looked
> > > around and can't find one. It doesn't seem as if QBP have any.
> > > Doesn't anyone out there at least know of any brands who if nothing
> > > else "claim" to make a 125mm stem? Preferably not carbon and not
> > > overpriced, not adjustable or anything silly like that. Someone told
> > > me the Deda Newton comes in a 125, but QBP don't seem to stock it.
>
> > > Any help much appreciated.
> > > cheers
> > > Sim Green
>
> > Buddy if you're this worried about position, you probably are one of
> > those freaks trying to shave 3 gms off of your rotational weight.
>
> > Here's a tip, take a big dump for every race and if you're still not
> > winning, hit the needle.
>
> > 5mm is anal.
>
> 5mm IS anal.  I know, nuts.  I've been riding for a while both with
> 130mm and 120mm.  I can't change the frame, so I figured I'd go for a
> 125 stem.  And I'm not a weight freak by any stretch of the
> imagination.  I would just be better off, and in the same position as
> my preivous brand bikes on a 125mm.    Thanks though.
> Sim- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

In the "UP" position? You mean upside down. I'm not riding a
hybrid!!! And I have gone over other measurements, I'm not new to
this, though I guess I should have said that. Cheers though.
SIm

Sim

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Mar 18, 2010, 3:54:55 AM3/18/10
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On Mar 18, 4:08 am, "z, fred" <N...@not.ca> wrote:

Now this is interesting... Llewellen, as in the Aussie frame maker?

Fredmaster of Brainerd

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Mar 18, 2010, 2:14:22 PM3/18/10
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On Mar 18, 12:53 am, Sim <jetlagspo...@neuf.fr> wrote:
> On Mar 18, 2:57 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com>
> wrote:
>
> > As was pointed out previously, you *can* have your 125 measurement, by
> > simply getting a stem with a different angle, and adjusting for the height
> > difference by using spacers above or below it. A 130mm 17degree stem in the
> > "up" position is likely go put you in-between (as in, about 125mm) a 120mm &
> > 130mm 7degree stem (also in the "up" position).
>
> > And, as somebody else pointed out, you could get a bar with a
> > slightly-different forward reach. If you don't spend much time on the center
> > straight part of the bar, this will work just as well as a different stem.
>
> > Lots of ways to get there, once you've defined where "there" is.
>
> In the "UP" position?  You mean upside down.  I'm not riding a
> hybrid!!! And I have gone over other measurements, I'm not new to
> this, though I guess I should have said that.  Cheers though.
> SIm

If you're not new to this, then you should have figured
out that bar position is some combination of stem
rise, angle and handle bar extension, and that Mike is
right, there are multiple ways to get the bars into any
given position:

http://www.habcycles.com/fitting.html

Also, this isn't really a question worth crossposting for.

Ben

A. Dumas Fred

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Mar 18, 2010, 3:07:28 PM3/18/10
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Op 18-03-10 19:14, Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
> Also, this isn't really a question worth crossposting for.

Even worse: it's not crossposted.

Fredmaster of Brainerd

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Mar 18, 2010, 4:37:52 PM3/18/10
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You're right and I am a dumbass.

Okay, since this is rbr: the correct answer is to quit
fantasizing about a 125mm stem. Just get a 120mm stem
and sweat 5mm of padding off your ass. The bike will fit
better and your performance will improve.

Scott

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Mar 18, 2010, 5:57:52 PM3/18/10
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Or, stop wearing Depends under your cycling shorts.

DepartFictif

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Mar 18, 2010, 6:34:02 PM3/18/10
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Hmmm, getting a lot less helpful and seem to be making assumptions
about my size, weight, knowledge, experience. It was a simple
quesition, "does anyone know where I can get a 125mm stem". Maybe
this RBR thing wasn't the place for it.

Thanks to those who did help.

Sim

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Mar 18, 2010, 6:37:03 PM3/18/10
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> Thanks to those who did help.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Dam it, someone else used my computer. Previous post was from me!
Sim
PS: What's "crossposting"?

Scott

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Mar 18, 2010, 6:41:52 PM3/18/10
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To be honest, I did try to help earlier when I suggested just getting
a handlebar with a slightly longer reach. I could also have suggested
that you just get a 120 and pretend it is a 125. That would work,
too.

FWIW, no one was making any assumptions about your size, weight,
etc... the joking comments were all in good fun, and if you'll notice
they didn't start until after you'd already received plenty of useful
answers to your question. Well, maybe Anton Berlin started a little
early, but that's just his nature. I'm not sure he knows how to give
a straight answer, but that doesn't stop him from giving an answer.

Sim

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Mar 18, 2010, 6:47:00 PM3/18/10
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> a straight answer, but that doesn't stop him from giving an answer.- Hide quoted text -

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Oh ok, righto. I can't change bars etc, I've gone through all that
other stuff, it's a "last resort" search. I've got both 120, 130,
endless different angles in the brands of stem I should be using, but
if it weren't that hard, throwing on a 125 would be better. It's not
like I can't ride with other 2 sizes, just wondered where I could get
one.
So.... again, cheers to all, and... I guess with time I'd get used to
the answering "format".
:-)
Sim

Scott

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Mar 18, 2010, 7:04:46 PM3/18/10
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Hey, at least no one called you a Dumbass... wait a minute, that's
actually a term of endearment here.

Steve Freides

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Mar 19, 2010, 6:21:36 PM3/19/10
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Or get a frame builder to make him a custom stem, certainly not an
unheard of thing.

-S-


Spunout

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Mar 21, 2010, 2:40:36 PM3/21/10
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> Or get a frame builder to make him a custom stem, certainly not an
> unheard of thing.
>
> -S-

why just a stem? Get a new custom frame. Be sure to specify reach so
that you don't end up between pesky 10mm stem lengths. Every looked
at a ruler? 5mm is a long way. ;)

Betty Munro

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Mar 21, 2010, 2:58:20 PM3/21/10
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Spunout wrote:
> why just a stem? Get a new custom frame. Be sure to specify reach so
> that you don't end up between pesky 10mm stem lengths. Every looked
> at a ruler? 5mm is a long way. ;)

<http://www.penissizedebate.com/images/doc/penis_size_preference_chart1.gif>

Steve Freides

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Mar 21, 2010, 7:49:25 PM3/21/10
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A custom frame is a fine idea, too, now that you mention it - that way,
you wouldn't need a custom stem.

:)

-S-


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