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Anton Berlin

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Dec 27, 2010, 11:56:24 AM12/27/10
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"When I hear the vacuous critic, I know they have never been there.
They are "fred's". All talk and no walk."

http://www.alexigrewal.com/index.php/blog/98-is-that-really-so

Fred Bucephalus Birchmore

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Dec 27, 2010, 2:43:03 PM12/27/10
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Now I'm offended !

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

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Dec 27, 2010, 3:23:18 PM12/27/10
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Oh dear.

Geraard Spergen

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Dec 27, 2010, 3:40:26 PM12/27/10
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On Dec 27, 12:23 pm, "Kurgan. presented by Gringioni."

"For all of you out there that are looking for something real, look
hard. You cannot fake it in the Peleton. "

I can understand your garden-variety RBR fred misspelling "peloton", I
don't get the unwarranted capitalization though. But Alexi has a blog
and everything - shit man, get a spell checker (1).

(1) - I realize "peloton" isn't in most spell checking programs - too
fucking bad.

NoDannyNo

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Dec 27, 2010, 3:41:30 PM12/27/10
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"Peleton" x2. The ultimate Fredism.

Frederick the Great

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Dec 27, 2010, 4:38:41 PM12/27/10
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In article
<875ba92b-0d35-48c2...@o9g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Geraard Spergen <Geraard...@juno.com> wrote:

I do not know about others.
It is in /usr/share/dict/words
on all MacOS X versions I remember.

--
Old Fritz

Amit Ghosh

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Dec 27, 2010, 5:06:32 PM12/27/10
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dumbass,

sports scrambles your brains.

humans, as individuals can't provide all our basic necessities, so we
need society to live. to our primitive minds social approval is as
important as food or the need to reproduce and loss of status or
humiliation is as painful as sickness or hunger.

doing well at sports gives you a status boost among the people that
care that is as powerful being very good looking or being very rich.
that is why master fatties and amateurs cheat to win even low level
bike races with trivial prizes and poser like liz hatch call
themselves pro athletes.

guys like grewal need to realize that he doesn't live in an ancient
tribe and heightened status from racing quizno's as a 50 yr old won't
affect his well being. he is being fooled by the 1 million year old
wiring in his brain. once he realizes this he will stop talking like a
child.

derf...@gmail.com

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Dec 27, 2010, 8:05:32 PM12/27/10
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On Dec 27, 3:40 pm, Geraard Spergen <GeraardSper...@juno.com> wrote:

> I can understand your garden-variety RBR fred misspelling "peloton", I
> don't get the unwarranted capitalization though.

I just figured "Son" was some kind of religious thing. You know,
Jesus H. Christ asked him to start racing again.

BLafferty

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Dec 27, 2010, 8:09:35 PM12/27/10
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It's really nice to see that something in life is consistent over the
years. Alexi is still an asshole. Same as it ever was.

derf...@gmail.com

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Dec 27, 2010, 8:11:45 PM12/27/10
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On Dec 27, 11:56 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:

I'm crushed. After the story about taking the Olympic medal from
Phinney ... this?

What's going to happen when he gets in a fatty master race with
Thurlow and Thurlow yells at him to pull harder?

Anton Berlin

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Dec 28, 2010, 10:21:49 AM12/28/10
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Bump due to spam flood

Beloved Fred No. 1

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Dec 28, 2010, 12:00:14 PM12/28/10
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derF...@gmail.com wrote:
> What's going to happen when he gets in a fatty master race with
> Thurlow and Thurlow yells at him to pull harder?

Imagine a FM race with the above two plus LANCE, Lemond and Simeoni.
Somehow I doubt if that break would last.

Beloved Fred No. 1

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Dec 28, 2010, 12:01:13 PM12/28/10
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Amit Ghosh wrote:
> guys like grewal need to realize that he doesn't live in an ancient
> tribe and heightened status from racing quizno's as a 50 yr old won't
> affect his well being. he is being fooled by the 1 million year old
> wiring in his brain. once he realizes this he will stop talking like a
> child.

You humans need to be rewired.

Fred Fredburger

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Dec 28, 2010, 2:22:27 PM12/28/10
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If Alexi reads RBR, isn't it axiomatic that Lance does too?

Anton Berlin

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Dec 28, 2010, 5:30:53 PM12/28/10
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> If Alexi reads RBR, isn't it axiomatic that Lance does too?

Alexi reads Tilford's blog and has posted there. I'd think that Alexi
would have at east jumped on the big Alexi thread earlier this
month.

As to Lance who knows... who cares? He's not a cyclist - just a doper
that picked cycling.

And I know how ironic that sounds - a confessed doper is admirable
while "the most tested human ever" is the ooze from the dirtiest
toilet in san francisco.

Fredmaster of Brainerd

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Dec 28, 2010, 7:26:55 PM12/28/10
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The adrenaline rush from racing or other competitive
activity still works for 50 year olds. This response was
useful when humans were in danger of being eaten by
a bear at a moment's notice and nobody lived to the
age of 50 anyway.

Now that we live in so-called civilization, 50 year old can
live more or less comfortable existences, save for the fact
that evolution has not yet figured out how to give
50 year old men a meaningful response to avoid the
mid-life crisis of evolutionary superfluousness. Sure,
coaching juniors cyclocross would be more productive
than Masters racing, but it doesn't invoke the same
hard-wired adrenaline response. Thus, we have Masters
racing.

There's only one short-term solution for this problem.
More death panels. If you haven't found something better
to do by the age of 50, we get all Logan's Run on your ass.

Fredmaster Ben

Beloved Fred No. 1

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Dec 29, 2010, 4:09:18 AM12/29/10
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Amit Ghosh wrote:
>>> guys like grewal need to realize that he doesn't live in an ancient
>>> tribe and heightened status from racing quizno's as a 50 yr old won't
>>> affect his well being. he is being fooled by the 1 million year old
>>> wiring in his brain. once he realizes this he will stop talking like a
>>> child.

Beloved Fred No. 1 wrote:
>> You humans need to be rewired.

Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
> The adrenaline rush from racing or other competitive
> activity still works for 50 year olds. This response was
> useful when humans were in danger of being eaten by
> a bear at a moment's notice and nobody lived to the
> age of 50 anyway.
>
> Now that we live in so-called civilization, 50 year old can
> live more or less comfortable existences, save for the fact
> that evolution has not yet figured out how to give
> 50 year old men a meaningful response to avoid the
> mid-life crisis of evolutionary superfluousness. Sure,
> coaching juniors cyclocross would be more productive
> than Masters racing, but it doesn't invoke the same
> hard-wired adrenaline response. Thus, we have Masters
> racing.
>
> There's only one short-term solution for this problem.
> More death panels. If you haven't found something better
> to do by the age of 50, we get all Logan's Run on your ass.

You could make FM racing dangerous so that there is a evolutionary
selection process.

Brad Anders

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Dec 29, 2010, 10:48:57 AM12/29/10
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Alexi really wants to join a pro team at 50 years of age? I guess
times really are pretty hard.

Brad Anders

BLafferty

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Dec 29, 2010, 12:06:25 PM12/29/10
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God told him in a dream to go for it.

Geraard Spergen

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Dec 29, 2010, 3:36:23 PM12/29/10
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On Dec 29, 9:06 am, BLafferty <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:

>
> God told him in a dream to go for it.

He seems to be downplaying his born-againism in this Quixotic
pursuit. Probably unconsciously forecasting his own failure and
imagining that God doesn't want to be associated with it.

Meanwhile, his idea of selling autographed T-shirts to fund his folly
is flopping.
eBay ad: http://tinyurl.com/2egcptd
$20 and he's only sold one.

Message has been deleted

Ian Smith

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Dec 29, 2010, 7:45:49 PM12/29/10
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 16:26:55 -0800, Fredmaster of Brainerd couldnae haud
thur wheesht ony mair an' gied us this:


Lol, thanks for that! I occasionally have a look in here, and gems like
this keep me coming back. :-)

Regards, Ian (Clydebank, Scotland)

--
Perpetual Calendar - http://www.1r5.net

Les Earnest

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Dec 30, 2010, 5:04:33 PM12/30/10
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That is because spell checking programs are useful only to people like
Harry Potter.

-Les Earnest, who invented the spelling checker in 1961

dave a

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Dec 30, 2010, 7:04:07 PM12/30/10
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I'd point the finger at you, but you invented that too.


Plano Dude

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Dec 30, 2010, 10:58:05 PM12/30/10
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Fresh quote from AG on FB:

"Rishi could still race if he wanted to also.."
Yesterday at 5:24pm

Michael Press

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Dec 31, 2010, 1:52:26 AM12/31/10
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In article <ifivlc$fu2$1...@usenet.stanford.edu>,
Les Earnest <l...@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:

I do not care how early you implemented a spell checker,
you did not invent it.

--
Michael Press

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

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Dec 31, 2010, 11:56:18 PM12/31/10
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Dumbass -

Only a dumbass would invent something like that and let someone else
make money off it.

thanks,

Bill. presented by Gates.

H. Fred Kveck

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Jan 1, 2011, 1:05:58 AM1/1/11
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In article <612e6122-13d6-4b7c...@i25g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,

Hmm, This time he *is* claiming to have played a major role in the development of
something, rather than merely setting up and attending an important meeting during
which that happened.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/8c2f4571b760e792

Les Earnest

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Jan 2, 2011, 3:00:48 AM1/2/11
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How would you suggest making money off it then? There were no software
patents in 1961 and if there had been and I got one it would have run
out before PCs came into play. Besides, in the '50s and '60s all
software was considered free and programmers felt honored when others
used their stuff.

-Les Earnest

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

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Jan 2, 2011, 4:29:47 AM1/2/11
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Dumbass -

I dunno.

Ask Bill Gates or Larry Ellison or Steve Jobs.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

Fredmaster of Brainerd

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Jan 3, 2011, 12:03:05 AM1/3/11
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On Jan 2, 2:29 am, "Kurgan. presented by Gringioni."

Dumbass,

People like Les giving software away is how BillG
and Larry Egoson and Steve Namaste Jobs got into
a position where they could make any money at
all, let alone make a lot of it. For example, the whole
damn Internet more or less works because the BSD
programmers licensed the TCP/IP software freely
(it's in Windows, and nearly everything else). Can you
imagine if all the Windows computers in the world were
running a proprietary TCP stack Microsoft hacked together
that worked as well as the rest of Windows does?

As an aside, software patents suck. In fact, if you
look at how Gates, Ellison, and Jobs made their
zillions, I don't think they made it off software patents.

Fredmaster Ben

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

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Jan 3, 2011, 2:26:32 AM1/3/11
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On Jan 2, 9:03 pm, Fredmaster of Brainerd <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> As an aside, software patents suck.  In fact, if you
> look at how Gates, Ellison, and Jobs made their
> zillions, I don't think they made it off software patents.

Dumbass -

They made all that money because they're really good businessmen.

Ryan Cousineau

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Jan 3, 2011, 3:57:56 PM1/3/11
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On Dec 27 2010, 2:06 pm, Amit Ghosh <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 27, 11:56 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "When I hear the vacuous critic, I know they have never been there.
> > They are "fred's".  All talk and no walk."
>
> >http://www.alexigrewal.com/index.php/blog/98-is-that-really-so
>
> dumbass,
>
> sports scrambles your brains.
>
> humans, as individuals can't provide all our basic necessities, so we
> need society to live. to our primitive minds social approval is as
> important as food or the need to reproduce and loss of status or
> humiliation is as painful as sickness or hunger.
>
> doing well at sports gives you a status boost among the people that
> care that is as powerful being very good looking or being very rich.
> that is why master fatties and amateurs cheat to win even low level
> bike races with trivial prizes and poser like liz hatch call
> themselves pro athletes.

>
> guys like grewal need to realize that he doesn't live in an ancient
> tribe and heightened status from racing quizno's as a 50 yr old won't
> affect his well being. he is being fooled by the 1 million year old
> wiring in his brain. once he realizes this he will stop talking like a
> child.

If you've read about Alexei's somewhat straitened personal
circumstances, you may notice his well-being probably would be
affected by racing Quizno's credibly. I would say that about very few
people, regardless of their talents.

It would apply to Chad Gerlach as well,

Frederick the Great

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Jan 3, 2011, 5:54:07 PM1/3/11
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In article
<ba83b8e4-cbef-4ca4...@29g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,

"Kurgan. presented by Gringioni." <kgrin...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 2, 9:03 pm, Fredmaster of Brainerd <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > As an aside, software patents suck.  In fact, if you
> > look at how Gates, Ellison, and Jobs made their
> > zillions, I don't think they made it off software patents.
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
> They made all that money because they're really good businessmen.

Yes. They each made a good product that did a good job;
and that many people wanted.

--
Old Fritz

Scott

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Jan 3, 2011, 11:38:11 PM1/3/11
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On Jan 3, 3:54 pm, Frederick the Great <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> In article
> <ba83b8e4-cbef-4ca4-962f-829ccb5c6...@29g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,

>  "Kurgan. presented by Gringioni." <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 2, 9:03 pm, Fredmaster of Brainerd <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > As an aside, software patents suck.  In fact, if you
> > > look at how Gates, Ellison, and Jobs made their
> > > zillions, I don't think they made it off software patents.
>
> > Dumbass -
>
> > They made all that money because they're really good businessmen.
>
> Yes. They each made a good product that did a good job;
> and that many people wanted.
>
> --
> Old Fritz

ah, ha! that's the secret, eh?

Amit Ghosh

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Jan 4, 2011, 3:18:14 PM1/4/11
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On Jan 3, 3:57 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > guys like grewal need to realize that he doesn't live in an ancient
> > tribe and heightened status from racing quizno's as a 50 yr old won't
> > affect his well being. he is being fooled by the 1 million year old
> > wiring in his brain. once he realizes this he will stop talking like a
> > child.
>
> If you've read about Alexei's somewhat straitened personal
> circumstances, you may notice his well-being probably would be
> affected by racing Quizno's credibly. I would say that about very few
> people, regardless of their talents.

dumbass,

if it was the mid-pleistocene and you are one of the best mammoth
hunters in your village you will have access to more resources and
more wives. you will have more food and more people to care for you if
you do get hurt or sick or just plain old.

if grewal rides well at quizno's he will still be the same almost
homeless guy with no healthcare and a just a few big expenses away
from catastrophe.

i love the guy (i lusted after a tricolore pinarello) and his
depiction as barry muzzin ("i am almost human') and what a contrast he
was to the boy scout racers of the time (like bauer and phinney).

> It would apply to Chad Gerlach as well,

i have known a lot of racers so i am familiar with many types of bike
racer psychoses.

gerlach is just a dude who likes to drink. anyone who is bored,
doesn't have any responsibility or someone keeping tabs on them (like
a wife) and loves alcohol can become a chad gerlach.

that is why so many rock stars and starlets end up in rehab. most
people don't take it so far that they are homeless, but his situation
has very little to do with him being a (former) bike racer. there are
lots of almost-gerlachs around.

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