Where was the post about Cervelo disbanding ?

raamman

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Sep 3, 2010, 2:26:39 AM9/3/10

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You guys are so busy 69ing each other, this ng is about bike racing
you know

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Sep 3, 2010, 4:29:28 AM9/3/10

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"raamman" <raa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> You guys are so busy 69ing each other, this ng is about bike racing
> you know

Nor any posts about Schlecks on Treks. Or the number of ProTour teams that
likely don't have a future.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

A. Dumas

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Sep 3, 2010, 6:45:32 AM9/3/10

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raamman wrote:
> You guys are so busy 69ing each other, this ng is about bike racing
> you know

So post it yourself.

Plano Dude

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Sep 3, 2010, 6:53:09 AM9/3/10

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+1

birdbrain

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Sep 3, 2010, 8:19:34 AM9/3/10

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On Sep 2, 11:26 pm, raamman <raam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You guys are so busy 69ing each other, this ng is about bike racing
> you know

Lance and Johan's discussions are more interesting.
Did Levi lawyer up yet?

Fredmaster of Brainerd

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Sep 3, 2010, 2:26:59 PM9/3/10

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On Sep 3, 4:29 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> "raamman" <raam...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:83c6d51b-03a0-43d0...@j18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > You guys are so busy 69ing each other, this ng is about bike racing
> > you know
>
> Nor any posts about Schlecks on Treks. Or the number of ProTour teams that
> likely don't have a future.

Cervelo disbanding was mentioned in the Thor thread.
In general, bike manufacturers aren't big enough
businesses to be lead sponsors of a road team,
especially Protour.

As for Schlecks on Treks, Mike, I'd think you would be a
good candidate to explain Trek's aims with that. They've
been heavily identified with LANCE and US-sponsor
teams, is this a statement that they now have enough
identity in the European market that they see a need to
keep sponsoring a team that races in Europe?

Every year around this time there are several
Protour teams without a future. I don't know if this
year is more than usual. The economy mostly
sucks except in Germany, AFAICT; that can't help.

Fredmaster Ben

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Sep 3, 2010, 2:53:04 PM9/3/10

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"Fredmaster of Brainerd" <bjwe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 3, 4:29 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> "raamman" <raam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:83c6d51b-03a0-43d0...@j18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > You guys are so busy 69ing each other, this ng is about bike racing
> > you know
>
> Nor any posts about Schlecks on Treks. Or the number of ProTour teams that
> likely don't have a future.

============

Cervelo disbanding was mentioned in the Thor thread.
In general, bike manufacturers aren't big enough
businesses to be lead sponsors of a road team,
especially Protour.

As for Schlecks on Treks, Mike, I'd think you would be a
good candidate to explain Trek's aims with that. They've
been heavily identified with LANCE and US-sponsor
teams, is this a statement that they now have enough
identity in the European market that they see a need to
keep sponsoring a team that races in Europe?

Every year around this time there are several
Protour teams without a future. I don't know if this
year is more than usual. The economy mostly
sucks except in Germany, AFAICT; that can't help.

Fredmaster
===========

You're spot-on.

Trek wants two things. First, a spot at the top of the podium, or at least a
darned good run at it. And second, absolutely they want that euro buy-in.
Lance actually did surprisingly well in that regard, but it's time to move
on. 2009 was phenomenal, 2010 was a tour too far. There are no more huge
American cycling phenoms on the horizon (well, OK, Phinney is huge, but his
future is in the classics, not stage races). The Schlecks bring a new (and
much larger than I expected) fan base to Trek.

Plus it will be fun to ask Americans to find Luxemborg on a map.

Fred Flintstein

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Sep 3, 2010, 4:06:35 PM9/3/10

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On 9/3/2010 1:53 PM, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> Plus it will be fun to ask Americans to find Luxemborg on a map.

Dumbass,

Luxemburg is near Brussels. They're just a short bike ride apart.

http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Luxemburg,+WI&daddr=Brussels,+WI

I'm sure the folks in Waterloo could tell you all about it.

Fred Flintstein

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Sep 3, 2010, 4:17:46 PM9/3/10

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"Fred Flintstein" <bob.sc...@sbcremoveglobal.net> wrote in message
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Don't tell me... I know where it is! Just can't spell it.

Michael Press

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Sep 3, 2010, 4:19:30 PM9/3/10

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In article <tNOdnW-YJZiP2RzR...@earthlink.com>,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:

> Plus it will be fun to ask Americans to find Luxemborg on a map.

It is between Monaco and San Marino.

--
Michael Press

Carl Sundquist

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Sep 3, 2010, 5:18:04 PM9/3/10

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On Sep 3, 1:53 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> "Fredmaster of Brainerd" <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:eb5d17a1-23fe-4247...@h37g2000pro.googlegroups.com...

Don't forget Trek sponsored the LANCEless Astana in 2007 and 2008.

Replace the word Phinney with Armstrong (for the same age).

Amit Ghosh

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Sep 3, 2010, 8:06:48 PM9/3/10

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On Sep 3, 2:26 am, raamman <raam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You guys are so busy 69ing each other, this ng is about bike racing
> you know

dumbass,

everyone read it on cyclingnews.

what is there to discuss ?

nothing apparently.

Mr. Slate

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Sep 4, 2010, 2:36:35 PM9/4/10

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Hi Snarl,

What's missing in all of this very quietly is they are chucking the men and
keeping the women! Ha, ha! Add, Women's teams in the Pro Tour!
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/columns/story?columnist=ford_bonnie_d&id=5522888

However, it's wishful thinking that Mara Abbott would sign a contract with
Celvelo. Add to that, two best climbers on the same team? Never!