My Lance prediction
Phil
My prediction is that now that Lance has "retired" the whole Lance
doping issue will eventually just fade away.
Which one would you put your money on?
coterock
I say that I am tired of these pointless threads about Lance. Old news.
Cicero Venatio
> I say that I am tired of these pointless threads about Lance. Old news.
I remember the endless debates about "Anq" (Anquetil) the whole enigma
that was him. The doping, the Poulidor debate, the smoking and drinking
before a race or stage, how he was indifferent about other riders, how
he drafted 99% of the time and somehow made it count with the 1% of the
time he had to put out an effort, his bizarre personal life, and then
one day it just stopped. I think it was Eddy, that was what put an end
to the Anq discussions.
Simply Fred
>> Lafferty says that LA is headed for a conviction and the slammer
>>
>> My prediction is that now that Lance has "retired" the whole Lance
>> doping issue will eventually just fade away.
>>
>> Which one would you put your money on?
coterock wrote:
> I say that I am tired of these pointless threads about Lance. Old news.
Lance who ?
Brad Anders
This is the time of Dopador. The time of Dopestrong has passed.
Jim Feeley
Let's see what happens at the Barry Bonds trial next month and then
decide.
Jim
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Jim
Jim Feeley
POV Media
BLafferty
unlikely--about as unlikely as the Feds dropping the matter now that
he's retired. I do think that if indicted, he will work out a pleas deal.
BLafferty
Frederick the Great
<12769a01-d98b-4e13...@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
Phil <prh...@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd put my money on the Wile E. Coyote before Lafferty.
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Old Fritz
Mike Jacoubowsky
news:XtWdnYdD_c3RkP3Q...@giganews.com...
Which can presumably be used to expose blood doping since, what, 2004? There
is a line drawn in the sand after which it was no longer legal to have an IV
without medical supervision and proven medical need. Thus any samples
showing plasticizers after that date would be rather incriminating.
Wonder how actively some are testing water bottles to see if there's
anything in them that could trigger a false positive? Never mind that it's
not a foregone conclusion that drinking plasticizers would put them into
your bloodstream in the first place...
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
RicodJour
wrote:
There is no such thing as a 100% polymerization, and that plasticizers
leach out of the plastic is well established. Some things accelerate
the leaching.
Something like 95% of people have PTFE in their bodies. Even people
that don't have Teflon cookware - it's inescapable unless you live the
life of a hermit in some backwoods part of the country. Like Philly.
R
Simply Fred
> Something like 95% of people have PTFE in their bodies. Even people
> that don't have Teflon cookware - it's inescapable unless you live the
> life of a hermit in some backwoods part of the country. Like Philly.
That sucks.
Dave Lee
>"Phil" wrote in message
>news:12769a01-d98b-4e13-84ab->577a68...@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
For sake of argument let's assume that
1) LA did some form of "WADA illegal" doping during most/all of his TdF wins
2) Virtually all of the very top cyclists of this timeframe believed that
some form of illegal doping is required to be competitive.
I'm not sure that any of this is 'prove-able' but it seems to be a
reasonable set of assumptions.
So given #1/2 above, why would LA compete in the 2010 Tdf?
1) His chances of winning (if the assumption in #2 above is correct) are nil
if he is clean
2) His chances of winning are slim if he is not clean
3) If he is not clean there there is always the chance of detection (heck -
there is probably a good chance of 'detection' even if he is clean).
4) It opens up all kinds of 'interest' in his 'assumed doping history'
(either results obtained in uncontrolled circumstances or anecdotal stories
from various sources).
5) He has WAY more to lose with some verifiable doping violation than he had
to gain from a win in 2010. In fact a win in 2010 might well have been so
unbelievable that it would have been a negative to his legacy.
Is his ego so big that he can't think? What was the point in 2010?
dave
RicodJour
wrote:
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> Is his ego so big that he can't think? What was the point in 2010?
LANCE has no ego and “The Queen of Spain has no legs”.
R
Choppy Warburton
That's the way I feel too. Why go after some Nazis for their silly
little war crimes? After all the war is over and let's let bygones be
bygones.
Simply Fred
> That's the way I feel too. Why go after some Nazis for their silly
> little war crimes? After all the war is over and let's let bygones be
> bygones.
Dumbass,
If you want to do a Godwin kindly do it properly and invoke Hitler by name.
Brad Anders
This is up to only 17 posts, including mine. You cannot invoke a
Godwin until a thread exceeds at least 100 posts. Please play by the
rules.
DirtRoadie
Assuming this was a serious post (1) did you mean 2009? And (2) were
you aware that LA became a "celebrity" - in he sense that he is famous
for being famous.
Under #2 he hardly needs to be concerned with race results- his mere
appearance becomes an event whether you or I or anyone else we know
likes it or not.
DR
Frederick the Great
<20d9fd60-b661-4e39...@g11g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,
DirtRoadie <DirtR...@aol.com> wrote:
I like it.
--
Old Fritz
Dave Lee
"DirtRoadie" wrote in message
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>DR
Yes I meant 2009. And I haven't dated a check 2010 for weeks now :-)
I am unable to relate your celebrity comment to my comment - maybe I
am dull (could be). OJ is a famous celebrity. But he isn't very marketable.
LA
(IMHO) risked a similar fate by re-engaging with the TdF. And as you pointed
out there was no upside. And he had/has MUCH to lose.
dave
DirtRoadie
> "DirtRoadie" wrote in message
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> On Feb 20, 8:39 am, "Dave Lee" <DaveLe...@ix.netcom.RemovE.com> wrote:
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> > >"Phil" wrote in message
Well, not any more. But there is that one thing...
> LA
> (IMHO) risked a similar fate by re-engaging with the TdF. And as you pointed
> out there was no upside. And he had/has MUCH to lose.
Well, so far as I am aware nobody has suggested that Lance killed
anyone. Although Lafferty may think that the elusive sealed indictment
will show that.
Lance probably did not expect to be where he is, but he's got the
celebrity thing going where any publicity is good publicity.
That's just an observation. Don't ask me to 'splain it or justify it.
DR
harg...@yahoo.com
There is a big difference between indictment & conviction. Personally
it's all hearsay from what I have seen.