Maybe they thought it was French
Scott
Mike Jacoubowsky
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> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100317/ap_on_re_af/piracy
Why did they set the pirates free, and why didn't they blow the mothership
out of the water, or at least tow it to port? Is the Spanish judicial system
involved somehow? Will the Italians ban the pirates from their country for
two years?
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
Ryan Cousineau
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> "Scott" <hendric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9cb6667d-6399-4fe5...@k36g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
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> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100317/ap_on_re_af/piracy
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> Why did they set the pirates free, and why didn't they blow the mothership
> out of the water, or at least tow it to port? Is the Spanish judicial system
> involved somehow? Will the Italians ban the pirates from their country for
> two years?
In a better world, you'd tow the pirate ship to the nearest port, and
they'd be tried for piracy. Unfortunately, the nearest port is in
Somalia, a nation that is pretty much a piratocracy.
Legally, things thus are a little weird. Logistically, the Dutch might
not have the ability to easily hold the crew and return them to
Dutchland. Practically, the destruction of the weapons and the attack
skiffs is probably more important than killing or trying the pirates.
http://www.slate.com/id/2216163/pagenum/all/
Not stated in that article is the extent to which this is a business:
there's a Somali market where you can be the venture capital for a
pirate gang. Screwing up the rate of return is more important than
taking out actual pirates.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcou...@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
Kyle Legate
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> In a better world, you'd tow the pirate ship to the nearest port, and
> they'd be tried for piracy. Unfortunately, the nearest port is in
> Somalia, a nation that is pretty much a piratocracy.
>
If the Western world didn't dump so much toxic waste in that region of
the ocean, thereby screwing the Somali fishermen out of their
livelihood, there would be no need for them to resort to piracy to survive.
Scott
Okay, are you kidding or not?
Mike Jacoubowsky
news:80du5e...@mid.individual.net...
Get your facts straight. Piracy has litte if anything to do with toxic
waste. The issue has been foreign fishing vessels illegally hauling in $300
million/year from their coastal waters, depriving fisherman of their trade
and driving some to piracy.
Toxic waste dumping is a major health issue for Somalia, but it's not
responsible for driving out Somali fishermen.
Kyle Legate
Would you recognise a smile if you saw one?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/you-are-being-lied-to-abo_b_155147.html
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1644219/somalia_piracy_its_the_pollution_not.html?cat=9
http://earthfirst.com/overfishing-waste-dumping-drove-somalis-to-piracy/
http://www.alternet.org/story/136481/
It's not just the toxic waste, foreign overfishing also contributed:
The "piracy in Somalia has its origin among disgruntled fishermen who
had to compete with illegal poaching by foreign commercial vessels in
its tuna-rich coastal waters", writes former Indian ambassador M. K.
Bhadrakumar.
If there's a man you can trust, it's M.K.Bhadrakumar.
(from http://www.twf.org/News/Y2009/0411-Pirates.html )
Kyle Legate
Scott.
Scott
One-two punch? Hell, I just asked a simple question 'cause I was too
distracted at the time to search for the information that may
substantiate your statement. I wasn't familiar with the situation,
and given that you have a tendency to over-state your disdain for the
West, my BS meter was triggered and therefore I asked if you were
serious. You're right, you really got me.
I'm just saying.
Kyle Legate
>
> One-two punch? Hell, I just asked a simple question 'cause I was too
> distracted at the time to search for the information that may
> substantiate your statement. I wasn't familiar with the situation,
> and given that you have a tendency to over-state your disdain for the
> West, my BS meter was triggered and therefore I asked if you were
> serious. You're right, you really got me.
>
> I'm just saying.
Sorry. Around here I interpret "Okay, are you kidding or not?" to mean
"This guy's got some whacked out conspiracy theory but *I* know what's
really going on, so let's see what he's got and I'll argue it until we
both look like dumbasses".
It won't happen again...err, it might happen again.
Scott
No, that would've been, "are you kidding or what?" "Are you kidding
or not?" was a legit question.
ilan
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100317/ap_on_re_af/piracy
As the local Frenchman, I suppose I have to reply to this. I hope
you're satisfied.
-ilan
Ryan Cousineau
<8ad2b4fc-afd4-4b0e...@q2g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Scott <hendric...@hotmail.com> wrote:
A meme is born.
Kyle Legate
> In article
> <8ad2b4fc-afd4-4b0e...@q2g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
> Scott <hendric...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> It won't happen again...err, it might happen again.
>> No, that would've been, "are you kidding or what?" "Are you kidding
>> or not?" was a legit question.
>
> A meme is born.
>
And thus it was stillborn.
K. Fred Gauss
Are you kidding or what?