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DA74

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Jun 28, 2010, 8:33:09 PM6/28/10
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Anyone want to engage in speculation of any particular kind?

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/06/28/lance.armstrong/?fbid=mVZEnnVruNf

B. Lafferty

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Jun 28, 2010, 8:45:29 PM6/28/10
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On 6/28/2010 8:33 PM, DA74 wrote:
> Anyone want to engage in speculation of any particular kind?
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/06/28/lance.armstrong/?fbid=mVZEnnVruNf

Didn't he say something like this a few years ago? It could all be moot
if the French police haul him in this year. I'll bet Willy Voet could
give him some pointers on how to handle himself. Taxi anyone?

Ben Trovato

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Jun 28, 2010, 11:22:08 PM6/28/10
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On Jun 28, 5:33 pm, DA74 <davidasto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone want to engage in speculation of any particular kind?
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/06/28/lance.armstrong/?fbid=mVZEnnV...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/sports/cycling/29cycling.html

"At least two of the people Landis implicated said they had met with
investigators to tell of their past involvement with doping. They did
not provide details of those meetings, but both said they were honest
in responding to the investigators’ questions. Those men, long
followers of cycling’s code of silence that kept doping a secret, did
not want their names published for fear of retribution during racing
at the Tour."

Scott

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Jun 29, 2010, 12:23:18 AM6/29/10
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On Jun 28, 6:33 pm, DA74 <davidasto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone want to engage in speculation of any particular kind?
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/06/28/lance.armstrong/?fbid=mVZEnnV...

Perhaps he recognizes his mortality (err... age) and knows that he
can't keep racing at such a high level forever. You can look for
some nefarious reason if you like, I just think he's ready to move
on.

Next year he'll go back to racing w/ an amateur license. I hear he's
after Olheiser's record of two in a row.

Frederick the Great

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Jun 29, 2010, 12:56:20 AM6/29/10
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In article
<77ed302a-4667-496d...@b35g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
Ben Trovato <benn.t...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Just watch who LANCE chases down.

--
Old Fritz

B. Lafferty

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Jun 29, 2010, 7:02:45 AM6/29/10
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Lance won't do anything this time around. His lawyers have undoubtedly
explained the concept of obstructing justice to him.

--D-y

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Jun 29, 2010, 9:35:35 AM6/29/10
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On Jun 29, 6:02 am, "B. Lafferty" <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 6/29/2010 12:56 AM, Frederick the Great wrote:
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <77ed302a-4667-496d-875a-f822fe78d...@b35g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> >   Ben Trovato<benn.trov...@hotmail.com>  wrote:

>
> >> On Jun 28, 5:33 pm, DA74<davidasto...@hotmail.com>  wrote:
> >>> Anyone want to engage in speculation of any particular kind?
>
> >>>http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/06/28/lance.armstrong/?fbid=mVZEnnV...
>
> >>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/sports/cycling/29cycling.html
>
> >> "At least two of the people Landis implicated said they had met with
> >> investigators to tell of their past involvement with doping. They did
> >> not provide details of those meetings, but both said they were honest
> >> in responding to the investigators’ questions. Those men, long
> >> followers of cycling’s code of silence that kept doping a secret, did
> >> not want their names published for fear of retribution during racing
> >> at the Tour."
>
> > Just watch who LANCE chases down.
>
> Lance won't do anything this time around.  His lawyers have undoubtedly
> explained the concept of obstructing justice to him.

Justice... justice for all, Brian?
--D-y

B. Lafferty

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Jun 29, 2010, 10:21:42 AM6/29/10
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TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 73
CHAPTER 73—OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE

Fredmaster of Brainerd

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Jun 29, 2010, 10:36:53 AM6/29/10
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On Jun 29, 1:02 pm, "B. Lafferty" <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 6/29/2010 12:56 AM, Frederick the Great wrote:
> >   Ben Trovato<benn.trov...@hotmail.com>  wrote:

>
> >> On Jun 28, 5:33 pm, DA74<davidasto...@hotmail.com>  wrote:
> >>> Anyone want to engage in speculation of any particular kind?
>
> >>>http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/06/28/lance.armstrong/?fbid=mVZEnnV...
>
> >>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/sports/cycling/29cycling.html
>
> >> "At least two of the people Landis implicated said they had met with
> >> investigators to tell of their past involvement with doping. They did
> >> not provide details of those meetings, but both said they were honest
> >> in responding to the investigators’ questions. Those men, long
> >> followers of cycling’s code of silence that kept doping a secret, did
> >> not want their names published for fear of retribution during racing
> >> at the Tour."
>
> > Just watch who LANCE chases down.
>
> Lance won't do anything this time around.  His lawyers have undoubtedly
> explained the concept of obstructing justice to him.

Ongoing court proceedings should not deter
teams from chasing, or not chasing, riders if
they want to. That is, it's all well and good to
say that teams shouldn't alter the sporting
outcome because of issues outside the course.
But then, should teams' tactical decisions be
based on fear of the implications outside the
course? Should LANCE ask Johan to call off
chasing a break because it has a former teammate
in it and LANCE is afraid that that teammate has
been talking and therefore chasing will increase
his legal jeopardy? How is that better?

Once you open this box, you can't put the contents
back in. This is why you are a dumbass and criminal
investigations of sporting offenses are a mistake
from the beginning. Sporting penalties for sporting
offenses - it's the only sensible way.

Fredmaster Ben

Fred on a stick

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Jun 29, 2010, 11:04:37 AM6/29/10
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On 6/29/2010 4:36 PM, Fredmaster of Brainerd wrote:
> Sporting penalties for sporting
> offenses - it's the only sensible way.

Which explains why Brian would never support it.

Brad Anders

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Jun 29, 2010, 11:21:09 AM6/29/10
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On Jun 28, 5:33 pm, DA74 <davidasto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone want to engage in speculation of any particular kind?
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/06/28/lance.armstrong/?fbid=mVZEnnV...

Yeah. I speculate that he'll be tested repeatedly throughout this last
TdF, and all his controls will return negative. He'll do well, but
won't win. After he retires, Landis, Novitsky, the AFLD, and WADA will
pursue him for years, but never get anywhere. Lance will continue to
hook up with women who look like his mom, and will father 5 more kids.
He will continue to get outrageous endorsement contracts, ride and win
MTB races, do some more running, and eventually run for US Senate and
win. He'll make a road racing comeback at 50 as a fatty masters,
sponsored by Michelob Ultra, which he will drink during races from a
solar powered, Peltier-cooled water bottle. He'll continue to serve in
the Senate for 25 years, hobknob with the rich and famous, and at 75,
be killed on his bike by a redneck that he flipped off.

Is that enough speculation for you?

Brad Anders

--D-y

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Jun 29, 2010, 11:22:27 AM6/29/10
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Non-sequitur there, B-man.
--D-y

B. Lafferty

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Jun 29, 2010, 11:44:49 AM6/29/10
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I think what people are referring to are the scenes with Bassons and
what's his name? Also, at this point, Armstrong probably doesn't know
who has said what to Novitsky or any other investigator.

B. Lafferty

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Jun 29, 2010, 11:45:52 AM6/29/10
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Thanks for your attempted assistance, but I'll speak for myself, if
that's OK with you. :-)

B. Lafferty

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Jun 29, 2010, 11:47:31 AM6/29/10
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How about this week's PowerBall numbers?

Fred Flintstein

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Jun 29, 2010, 11:51:06 AM6/29/10
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On 6/29/2010 10:21 AM, Brad Anders wrote:
> He'll make a road racing comeback at 50 as a fatty masters,
> sponsored by Michelob Ultra, which he will drink during races from a
> solar powered, Peltier-cooled water bottle.

That would be so.fucking.cool!!

Except for the Michelob part.

Fred Flintstein

DA74

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Jun 29, 2010, 12:33:51 PM6/29/10
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On Jun 29, 7:36 am, Fredmaster of Brainerd <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 29, 1:02 pm, "B. Lafferty" <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> > On 6/29/2010 12:56 AM, Frederick the Great wrote:
> > >   Ben Trovato<benn.trov...@hotmail.com>  wrote:
>
> > >> On Jun 28, 5:33 pm, DA74<davidasto...@hotmail.com>  wrote:
> > >>> Anyone want to engage in speculation of any particular kind?
>
> > >>>http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/06/28/lance.armstrong/?fbid=mVZEnnV...
>
> Once you open this box, you can't put the contents
> back in.  This is why you are a dumbass and criminal
> investigations of sporting offenses are a mistake
> from the beginning.  Sporting penalties for sporting
> offenses - it's the only sensible way.
>
> Fredmaster Ben- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Fucktardmaster Ben,
What if the box contained conspiracy to purchase, distribute and
administer both approved and unapproved pharmaceuticals intended to
treat cancer patients and animals, blood transfusions being performed
in hotel rooms and vehicles on the roadsides by unlicensed
practitioners all paid for with money extracted from an agency of the
US Government so as to enhance winnings, salaries, sponsorships and
careers?

derf...@gmail.com

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Jun 29, 2010, 12:37:28 PM6/29/10
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On Jun 29, 11:51 am, Fred Flintstein

too late on the Michelob part. There is already a Michelob Ultra
cycling team: http://bit.ly/b1R6wJ and I'm sure they're already
recruiting LANCE.

Brad Anders

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Jun 29, 2010, 12:38:00 PM6/29/10
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On Jun 29, 8:51 am, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net>
wrote:

It will just look like he's drinking Ultra. Actually, the bottle will
contain Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. You don't think a retired LANCE would
actually drink tha Ultra shit, do you?

Brad Anders

Fredmaster of Brainerd

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Jun 29, 2010, 6:24:44 PM6/29/10
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Dumbass 74,

Sounds like a blue cooler to me.
If one person gets popped, send the entire team home
from the race, no appeals. If they don't get popped, no
penalties. I don't see what the identity of the sponsor
has to do with it. ONCE (remember ONCE?) is a
nominal charity with a state-granted lottery monopoly,
closely associated with the government,
that advertised through the medium of a fairly
successful cycling team. Does that make doping
instigated by ONCE's coach worse? Or a crime against
the Spanish government?

If you don't like blue coolers, quit crying to the cops and
put your money where your mouth is - when selling old
pro kit on ebay, ship it UPS, or Fedex.

Fredmaster Ben

DA74

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Jun 29, 2010, 7:22:47 PM6/29/10
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I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here Benmaster Fred. I
think you are a little dickwhipped and clearly not thinking this
through which has caused you to have a fundamental misunderstanding of
the point of this investigation. The feds don't give a shit about
indivudual doping cases any more than they care about your cousin Zed
doing gravity bong hits in the garage of the family compound you guys
still own in rural Missouri.

This case wouldn't get to first base if it was just a plain vanilla
doping case where a coach helped hook up a couple rising stars with
the quiet, fat, sweaty soigneur who never seems to be massaging anyone
or handing out bottles.

They care about this because they have reason to believe that
Tailwind, partially owned by your love interest, was engaged at the
behest of your love interest in the funding, implementation and
administration of a doping program paid for by an agency of the US
Gubment.

It's really that simple so don't try and build this into a forum for
your little rants where you get on your soapbox and make proclamations
about how the antidoping code could be improved.

And don't mistake my interest in this case for an indictment against
doping just because you are starting to get used to the idea that this
whole game is a house of cards. Like Chang correctly stated long ago,
I believe cycling is simply a form of entertainment. I don't think
athletes should get in legal trouble let alone go to jail for doping
any more than Willie Nelson should for taking LSD at the White House.

You should take a rip off that joint you've got hidden in the garage.
Seriously.
Dumbass74

bar

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Jun 29, 2010, 7:54:28 PM6/29/10
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How awesome would it be if the Olsen twins get dragged into this ...
"yes, we saw LANCE with a t-patch on his nutsack in Girona on ..."

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