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Scott
Keith
<hendric...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Longo wins French National TT championship.
Aged 51, her 57th title and 3rd ITT in a row...
Tom_A
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:00:07 -0700 (PDT), Scott
>
> >Longo wins French National TT championship.
>
> Aged 51, her 57th title and 3rd ITT in a row...
And second place is 40 yrs old...are you sure this wasn't the French
Women's Masters ITT? If not, what's up with the younger French women?
Betty
> And second place is 40 yrs old...are you sure this wasn't the French
> Women's Masters ITT? If not, what's up with the younger French women?
They've got big breasts ?
Brad Anders
>
> >Longo wins French National TT championship.
>
> Aged 51, her 57th title and 3rd ITT in a row...
24.7 km in 34:51, 42.52 km/hr (26.4 mph). Pretty goddamn fast,
regardless of age. Impressive.
Brad Anders
GoneBeforeMyTime
> If not, what's up with the younger French women?
Nothing, Longo is still as good at 51 as she was 25 years ago. Unlike
others, her body has lasted, as well as her spirit to race and win. Longo
always goes to win, nothing else matters to her.
GoneBeforeMyTime
First thing that came to my mind without checking was if Pitel and Bruneau
would be on the podium or close on the results. Sure enough, 2nd and 3rd. So
the French girls are good, those are two solid riders, it's just Longo is
better. The ridculous stigma that somehow the French women suck because
Longo beat them has been beaten to death for years. The fact is, Longo is
still the best, period.
http://courses.femininesassociees.over-blog.com/
thirty-six
> Tom_A wrote:
> > If not, what's up with the younger French women?
>
> Nothing, Longo is still as good at 51 as she was 25 years ago. Unlike
> others, her body has lasted,
Some one who didn't take "shit to enhance recovery". You see in
reality "shit to enhance recovery", doesn't, it just prevents the
damage from interfering with continued training. The only real ways
to enhance recovery involve attention to diet, rest and activity.
It's a 24 hour job being a world class athlete. Short cuts do not pay
dividends in the long term. Now how are those BP shares doing?
Mike Jacoubowsky
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On Jun 24, 6:35 am, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:00:07 -0700 (PDT), Scott
>
> <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Longo wins French National TT championship.
>
> Aged 51, her 57th title and 3rd ITT in a row...
24.7 km in 34:51, 42.52 km/hr (26.4 mph). Pretty goddamn fast,
regardless of age. Impressive.
Brad Anders
========
Beryl Burton has been generally regarded as the greatest woman cyclist. Is
that now up for debate?
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
B. Lafferty
GoneBeforeMyTime
> "Brad Anders" <pban...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:58f30d45-5f62-4b77...@t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 24, 6:35 am, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:00:07 -0700 (PDT), Scott
>>
>> <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Longo wins French National TT championship.
>>
>> Aged 51, her 57th title and 3rd ITT in a row...
> ========
> 24.7 km in 34:51, 42.52 km/hr (26.4 mph). Pretty goddamn fast,
> regardless of age. Impressive.
>
> Brad Anders
> ========
>
> Beryl Burton has been generally regarded as the greatest woman
> cyclist. Is that now up for debate?
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
No debate, except if you want to argue with Uncle UK. Burton was a local
legend in the UK. Besides the world road and track championships, she never
rode at a high international level like Longo did for decades now. Longo won
every major classic and stage race worldwide many times over, except the
Giro. She never won the Giro, but clearly Longo is the greatest winning at
the highest level in track, road and even winning MB championships. If you
consider her hour record, and in fact every track record you can think of, I
can't see however anyone who has looked at the data could see it otherwise.
Burton never raced against world class competition like Longo did, except
the World Championships. She's a local legend, but the fact that Longo keeps
winning every year over the age of 50 continues to support Longo as being
the greatest.
RicodJour
Now we know where the French football mojo went.
R
Mike Jacoubowsky
news:t4qdndDCJ-kQQL7R...@sti.net...
+1
thirty-six
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> > Beryl Burton has been generally regarded as the greatest woman
> > cyclist. Is that now up for debate?
>
> legend in the UK
Interview from 1984 giving some of Beryl's history, a remakable story.
http://www.cyclorama.net/viewArticle.php?id=264
GoneBeforeMyTime
Longo got over 1000 international victories to her credit. Deal with it.
There is nothing to debate. This myth was acceptable before Longo came on
the scene, but Burton is no longer the greatest.
GoneBeforeMyTime
Mike Jacoubowsky
What do you think "+1" means?
ronaldo_jeremiah
> Deal with it.
Priceless.
-rj
Fred Flintstein
> Beryl Burton has been generally regarded as the greatest woman cyclist.
> Is that now up for debate?
Burton competed at Worlds on a team with her daughter. In
order to do that she had to recognize that there were other
things in life besides racing bikes.
While I certainly respect Longo's immense accomplishments
as a cyclist, I'm not sure how I feel about someone that
doesn't have anything else going on with their life. There
are many others that could choose to compete at high levels
of competition as older athletes. But at some point they
conclude that it is time to move on and "because I can" is
not enough of a justification to do it.
But Longo never found that point. I'm not sure how I feel
about that. But admiration just isn't coming.
Fred Flintstein
Legendary Noob
> "GoneBeforeMyTime" <Fa...@EuroForums.com> wrote in message
> news:ZLedndIECOuytbnR...@sti.net...
>>
>> Longo got over 1000 international victories to her credit. Deal with it.
>> There is nothing to debate. This myth was acceptable before Longo came on
>> the scene, but Burton is no longer the greatest.
>
> What do you think "+1" means?
>
lol pwned
Anton Berlin
wrote:
Fucking freek - Longo plays the piano and plays it very well. Some
people have better things to do then to pollute the planet with clones
of themselves.
GoneBeforeMyTime
Longo also well connected, lots of friends in both USA and Europe,
especially France. From even short accounts, her life is full of fun and
meaning besides being the best ever at road racing. I've heard her play, not
bad. What I find most amazing is her military like discipline in the sport.
That's certainly one aspect of what you would expect from a pro. All Pros
know preparation is key, but I find it incredible that she was constantly on
the move all those years back and forth from Europe to America to race.
Traveling in itself is stressful, and I can't imagine how many plane trips
she has made in the last 30 years. My favorite attribute in Longo is her
ability to do several different races in one day and win them. Racing
perhaps in the morning, then getting in the car traveling many miles to race
in the afternoon, and she did it quite often for many years. That's got to
be incredibly stressful. What other women has even done that? Van Moorsel,
no, Luperini, no, no one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cBmwjz8Vng
Fred Flintstein
Thanks. Without intending to, you've reinforced my point. Maybe
the reason no one lives the way Longo does is because that isn't
an intelligent way to live.
And yes, she is without peer as a bike racer.
Fred Flintstein
Brad Anders
I don't look to pro athletes when I'm looking for role models on how
to live my life in the first place. Or musicians. Or movie stars. Or
politicians.
So, if Longo wants to be childless, and spend her whole life racing
her bike, and playing the piano, I'm glad that's working for her.
Brad Anders
Fred Flintstein
Fockstick,
I wasn't just referring to starting a family. Linda Jackson
is an example of someone that could still be competitive in
women's racing if she so chose, but chose instead to move on
to one of the many other possibilities that are more
attractive to her at this stage of her life.
Fred Flintstein
GoneBeforeMyTime
I don't think she wanted to be childless. I believe at one time, they tried.
However role model wasn't on my radar either. I was just amazed by her
dedication in her racing career. Leontien certainly knew how to get it up,
but she wasn't always consistent. Longo had it up and kept it up for over 30
years now. That's admirable on the level with many great long term career
pros in other sports. Just a quick check, only Lance made this list for
cyclists.
http://www.thebest100lists.com/best100athletes/
Fred Flintstein
> I don't look to pro athletes when I'm looking for role models on how
> to live my life in the first place. Or musicians. Or movie stars. Or
> politicians.
>
> So, if Longo wants to be childless, and spend her whole life racing
> her bike, and playing the piano, I'm glad that's working for her.
>
> Brad Anders
Exactly so. It is no business of mine how she lives
her life. And I am sure she will get along just fine
without my admiration.
It wasn't just raising children specifically that I
was referring to. I think that dedicating your life
to racing bikes is OK for a while. But I think to not
have found a different path at her age is exceptional,
and not in a positive way.
Linda Jackson creates a new career for herself every
couple of years. I think that's every bit as
exceptional, in a positive way, as what Longo has
accomplished.
Fred Flintstein
Betty
>> Deal with it.
ronaldo_jeremiah wrote:
> Priceless.
Charge it to your rbr branded credit card.
Betty
> While I certainly respect Longo's immense accomplishments
> as a cyclist, I'm not sure how I feel about someone that
> doesn't have anything else going on with their life. There
> are many others that could choose to compete at high levels
> of competition as older athletes. But at some point they
> conclude that it is time to move on and "because I can" is
> not enough of a justification to do it.
KGring
Dumbass -
Longo plays the piano?
thanks,
Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
KGring
<snip>
Dumbass -
I look to models when it comes to where I'd like to live my life.
A. Dumas
> On Jun 25, 9:48 am, Fred Flintstein wrote:
>> While I certainly respect Longo's immense accomplishments
>> as a cyclist, I'm not sure how I feel about someone that
>> doesn't have anything else going on with their life.
>> about that. But admiration just isn't coming.
>
Also has a bachelor's degree in Maths and an MBA.
Fred on a stick
> Also has a bachelor's degree in Maths and an MBA.
My condolences.
Fred Flintstein
But that explains why she is still racing bikes at
her age.
Fred Flintstein