Wouter's Crash - many different accounts
Anton Berlin
rail and onto the road 60ft below.
I've also read "caught in a well and fell 200 ft "
some video after
DirtRoadie
> From what can be known, he caught a pedal and it flipped him over a
> rail and onto the road 60ft below.
>
>
> I've also read "caught in a well and fell 200 ft "
>
Tragic.
The accounts are vague and unclear, but look at the frame at about :45
in the last video link above. That at least seems to show a
perspective which provides a credible/plausible scenario.
May he rest in peace.
DR
A. Dumas
> From what can be known, he caught a pedal and it flipped him over a
> I've also read "caught in a well and fell 200 ft "
He did not fall down the mountain. It was a straight stretch of the
descent, he probably clipped some low road barriers on the left, bounced
to the other side and hit a rock wall. He was probably dead immediately.
They tried to resuscitate him for 40 minutes but called off the medical
helicopter after that, which had been hovering unable to land closely
enough. They called it then & there but waited with the public
announcement (about 30-60 min later?) until they had got hold of his
family. There was one gruesome close-up during the live broadcast where
the right side of his head/face looked bloody and deformed. To me, he
looked dead in that shot.
Helmut Springer
> He did not fall down the mountain. It was a straight stretch of
> the descent, he probably clipped some low road barriers on the
> left, bounced to the other side and hit a rock wall.
Or he went down one step of the switchback. I didn't see a bike on
the video anywhere.
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MfG/Best regards
helmut springer panta rhei
Davey Crockett
| He did not fall down the mountain. It was a straight stretch of the
| descent, he probably clipped some low road barriers on the left,
| bounced to the other side and hit a rock wall. He was probably dead
| immediately. They tried to resuscitate him for 40 minutes but called
| off the medical helicopter after that, which had been hovering unable
| to land closely enough. They called it then & there but waited with
| the public announcement (about 30-60 min later?) until they had got
| hold of his family. There was one gruesome close-up during the live
| broadcast where the right side of his head/face looked bloody and
| deformed. To me, he looked dead in that shot.
You're right about the road. Regardless of what might have happened
initially, the brief shot before the Downstream Mixer cut to a shot of
some trees showed him lying slightly right of the middle of a flat or
possibly faux plat section of the course.
However, the brief view of Wouter that was shown revealed that his
face had suffered mega-major trauma and it appeared that his head was
lying at an unnatural angle.
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Davey Crockett
ilan
I can just imagine how bad it would have been if he hadn't been
wearing a helmet.
-ilan
Davey Crockett
| > You're right about the road. Regardless of what might have happened
| > initially, the brief shot before the Downstream Mixer cut to a shot of
| > some trees showed him lying slightly right of the middle of a flat or
| > possibly faux plat section of the course.
| >
| > However, the brief view of Wouter that was shown revealed that his
| > face had suffered mega-major trauma and it appeared that his head was
| > lying at an unnatural angle.
| >
| > --
| > Davey Crockett
| I can just imagine how bad it would have been if he hadn't been
| wearing a helmet.
| -ilan
A potentially more disturbing aspect of the incident is that his family,
friends and fans were probably watching the coverage.
And when the feed cut so suddenly away, as opposed to the usual skinned
knees/ass/etc. spills where the incidents are well covered, it didn't
take much over a double digit IQ to infer that this one was life
threatening or possibly fatal.
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Davey Crockett
Fred Bucephalus Birchmore
A. Dumas
> On May 10, 1:42 am, Helmut Springer wrote:
>> A. Dumas wrote:
>>> He did not fall down the mountain.
>>
>> the video anywhere.
>
But it is not what happened. He did not fall down the mountain and it
was not near a switchback.
RicodJour
Yeah, I think he did go over the wall.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/ximtvz_wouter-weylandt-dead-crash-kills-cyclist-smierc-kolarza_sport
On the section where he was lying it was a more or less straight
part. Even at high speed a crash in that straight part would have
been a more glancing blow. The injury looked to be more of an abrupt
impact such as a fall from a height. Nothing glancing about it. Poor
bastard.
R
A. Dumas
> Yeah, I think he did go over the wall. [...]
> On the section where he was lying it was a more or less straight
> part. Even at high speed a crash in that straight part would have
> been a more glancing blow. The injury looked to be more of an abrupt
> impact such as a fall from a height. Nothing glancing about it.
No he did not go over a wall, skip a switchback step or otherwise fall
down the mountain. He clipped a barrier on the downhill side, bounced
and slid 20 metres and hit his face on a rock wall on the mountain side.
> Poor bastard.
That's for sure.
Brad Anders
"In stage 3 of the 2011 Giro d'Italia, Weylandt crashed descending the
Passo del Bocco, near the town of Mezzanego, suffering catastrophic
injury. While he was looking over his shoulder at other riders, the
left side of his bike struck a wall, sending him across the road where
he then hit another object at high speed."
Not clear who did the edit, or exactly where they sourced this
information. I looked at the three references cited, didn't see
anything about his looking over his shoulder.
Helmut Springer
> Not clear who did the edit, or exactly where they sourced this
> information. I looked at the three references cited, didn't see
> anything about his looking over his shoulder.
Throwing "wouter weylandt shoulder" into Google yields as first hit
http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/video-wouter-weylandt-memorial-at-crash-scene_172277
which references Manuel Cardoso as eye witness.
RicodJour
> Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Not clear who did the edit, or exactly where they sourced this
> > information. I looked at the three references cited, didn't see
> > anything about his looking over his shoulder.
>
> Throwing "wouter weylandt shoulder" into Google yields as first hit
> which references Manuel Cardoso as eye witness.
The pictures and the account certainly clears up what happened. That
is one fucked up transition from the steel barrier railing to the
stone wall. That's never how it's done as it's a recipe for a
disaster, whether it's a car or a guy on a bike. Typically the steel
railing would be in line with the face of the wall, and not have such
an abrupt transition. You can clearly see where he clipped the stone
wall, and the gouges in the pavement are incredible. I've never seen
anything like that from a bicycle crash.
R
Frederick the Great
<ace1d151-7535-4357...@f9g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>,
RicodJour <rico...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On May 10, 3:43 pm, Helmut Springer <delta+use...@lug-s.org> wrote:
> > Brad Anders <pband...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Not clear who did the edit, or exactly where they sourced this
> > > information. I looked at the three references cited, didn't see
> > > anything about his looking over his shoulder.
> >
> > Throwing "wouter weylandt shoulder" into Google yields as first hit
> > http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/video-wouter-weylandt-mem...
> > which references Manuel Cardoso as eye witness.
>
> The pictures and the account certainly clears up what happened. That
> is one fucked up transition from the steel barrier railing to the
> stone wall.
That is how it is supposed to transition
for traffic going the direction it is designed for.
--
Old Fritz
A. Dumas
> the gouges in the pavement are incredible.
Police chalk, the caption says.
RicodJour
> RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>
> > The pictures and the account certainly clears up what happened. That
> > is one fucked up transition from the steel barrier railing to the
> > stone wall.
>
> That is how it is supposed to transition
> for traffic going the direction it is designed for.
Look at all of the pictures. You can clearly see both ends of the
stone wall and the railing on both sides of it. The stepped
transition is the same going either direction.
R