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B. Lafferty

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Jun 6, 2010, 10:57:58 AM6/6/10
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Asked if he believed in Landis’s allegations Bahati said: “I think I’m a
realist but it’s hard for me to say if he was telling the truth or not.
I think in sports you may always have people looking for that extra edge
but I have no clue. I’ve never been at that level of the sport.”

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bahati-continues-to-support-landis-personally

Fred

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Jun 6, 2010, 12:44:57 PM6/6/10
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Smells like bullshit to me. Maybe he should ask his new director sportif:

http://www.bahatiracing.com/TeamSite/about/index.htm

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

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Jun 6, 2010, 12:58:43 PM6/6/10
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On Jun 6, 7:57 am, "B. Lafferty" <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> Asked if he believed in Landis’s allegations Bahati said: “I think I’m a
> realist but it’s hard for me to say if he was telling the truth or not.
> I think in sports you may always have people looking for that extra edge
> but I have no clue. I’ve never been at that level of the sport.”

Dumbass -

His opinion is the same as most of us, however, unlike Floyd, he
doesn't want to be a rat.

I know you don't get that position, but please indulge me and consider
a different group doing a similar thing. Say there's a rave going on.
Quite a few people there will be on some sort of hallucinogin or
recreational drug. Say someone gets busted. The rat will point fingers
at all his/her peers in an attempt to get off. Most won't however.
Most will just take their punishment.

It's clear that, based upon your behavior in this group, that you
don't understand peer dynamics so I'll explain it to you. Most people
will put the esteem of their peers much higher than the esteem of the
authorities or the esteem of the rest of society.

If indeed Floyd is telling the truth, he'll be in with the
authorities, but he'll be shunned by his peers. He's trying to bring
all his friends down just because he went down. Some friend he is. How
would he feel if one of his friends decided to blow the whistle on him
when he was using and getting away with it? He's slime.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

K. Fred Gauss

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Jun 6, 2010, 1:11:38 PM6/6/10
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B. Lafferty wrote:
> Asked if he believed in Landis�s allegations Bahati said: �I think I�m a
> realist but it�s hard for me to say if he was telling the truth or not.
> I think in sports you may always have people looking for that extra edge
> but I have no clue. I�ve never been at that level of the sport.�
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bahati-continues-to-support-landis-personally
>

He's saying:

"Not ME! I'm INNOCENT! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!"

B. Lafferty

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Jun 6, 2010, 1:32:41 PM6/6/10
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On 6/6/2010 12:58 PM, Kurgan. presented by Gringioni. wrote:
> On Jun 6, 7:57 am, "B. Lafferty"<b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>> Asked if he believed in Landis�s allegations Bahati said: �I think I�m a
>> realist but it�s hard for me to say if he was telling the truth or not.

>> I think in sports you may always have people looking for that extra edge
>> but I have no clue. I�ve never been at that level of the sport.�

>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
> His opinion is the same as most of us, however, unlike Floyd, he
> doesn't want to be a rat.
>
> I know you don't get that position, but please indulge me and consider
> a different group doing a similar thing. Say there's a rave going on.
> Quite a few people there will be on some sort of hallucinogin or
> recreational drug. Say someone gets busted. The rat will point fingers
> at all his/her peers in an attempt to get off. Most won't however.
> Most will just take their punishment.
>
> It's clear that, based upon your behavior in this group, that you
> don't understand peer dynamics so I'll explain it to you. Most people
> will put the esteem of their peers much higher than the esteem of the
> authorities or the esteem of the rest of society.
>
> If indeed Floyd is telling the truth, he'll be in with the
> authorities, but he'll be shunned by his peers. He's trying to bring
> all his friends down just because he went down. Some friend he is. How
> would he feel if one of his friends decided to blow the whistle on him
> when he was using and getting away with it? He's slime.
>
> thanks,
>
> Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
Thanks ever so much for sharing.

DA74

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Jun 6, 2010, 2:33:36 PM6/6/10
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On Jun 6, 9:58 am, "Kurgan. presented by Gringioni."

Kurgobro,
I think the whole backstory for this Floyd mess is the fact that he
felt shunned by his peers after his suspension. The emails from Dr.
Brent Kay to Lance actually lay out this scenario. It seems that Floyd
felt like he couldn't get back into the game so he gave it one last
try with the threatening emails to Messick and then, once unsuccessful
decided to take everyone down. Who knows what goes through his brain
but he obviously only cares about himself and obviously feels like his
peers turned their backs on him.
-DA74

K. Fred Gauss

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Jun 6, 2010, 3:01:45 PM6/6/10
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That's what I got, too. I don't see any other way to spin those emails.

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

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Jun 6, 2010, 2:55:13 PM6/6/10
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On Jun 6, 11:33 am, DA74 <davidasto...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Kurgobro,
> I think the whole backstory for this Floyd mess is the fact that he
> felt shunned by his peers after his suspension.

<snip>


Dumbass -

You're probably right.

It's stupid of him though, if indeed he wanted to get back in the
game. As you pointed out earlier in this group, some others (Basso, et
al) have taken their suspension quietly and gotten back in.

Floyd's mistakes began when he was doing all that crap with the Floyd
Fairness Fund and his book and all that. IMO, all of his actions have
been wrong. First he dicked over the people he lied to about not
doping (and took their money), now he's dicking over his peers. At
least he's dicking over his peers whom he doesn't like.

DA74

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Jun 6, 2010, 2:59:55 PM6/6/10
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On Jun 6, 11:55 am, "Kurgan. presented by Gringioni."

You're right. I think his biggest problem is that he thinks he's a lot
smarter than he really is. That is a lethal combination for him and
those around him. What a fucking moron.
-DA74

Frederick the Great

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Jun 6, 2010, 4:02:51 PM6/6/10
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In article
<4f3c92f1-5f1e-4781...@z15g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
DA74 <davida...@hotmail.com> wrote:

That he ever chose threats suggests that his initial
attempts to get back into the game were as maladroit
as his later attempts.

--
Old Fritz

Anton Berlin

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Jun 6, 2010, 7:03:50 PM6/6/10
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On Jun 6, 1:55 pm, "Kurgan. presented by Gringioni."

A serious flaw would be if he's playing favorites with his
revelations. If Floyd knows others are doping and he hasn't outed
them because they are friends or have been 'supportive' then he's just
a vindictive cunt.

If he rreally wants a clean conscience he should tell all - I know
this isn't the popular answer but either your clean or your not.

B. Lafferty

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Jun 6, 2010, 8:14:33 PM6/6/10
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As a practical matter, it's often best to not make the full proffer up
front. Better to see the reaction and then continue to deal. This assums
he hasn't already told what he might know about others.

Frederick the Great

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Jun 6, 2010, 9:31:23 PM6/6/10
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In article
<20be27f1-7c3c-40ae...@y4g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
Anton Berlin <truth...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Do not sell yourself short.
You espouse a most popular attitude.

--
Old Fritz

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