Lance news.
coterock
http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/03/news/georgia-republican-questions-fda-investigation-of-armstrong-doping-allegations_163443
Much between the lines.
Fred
> Interesting article:http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/03/news/georgia-republican-questi...
>
> Much between the lines.
a link that works:
http://www.sport24.co.za/OtherSport/Cycling/Armstrong-probe-questioned-20110312
Fred
Mike Jacoubowsky
>news:096757b6-f475-47c8...@w9g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
"I would like to know how much has been spent on this investigation and
why so much has been spent."
Margaret Hamburg, commissioner of the FDA, said her agency is looking
into Novitzky's investigation and would provide information on how much
the probe is costing.
"I believe millions have been spent, lots of time, and I would like to
know what priority that is in the food chain," Kingston said.
Having just gotten back from a lobbying trip to DC and spoken directly
with several Congressmen/women, I can tell you that any argument that
includes "cost" as part of its support is going to get a great deal of
attention. They're slashing & burning everything right now. Even some
conservative Republicans suggest privately that things have gone too
far, but that they have to draw the line for our great grandchildren,
the ones who will be indentured slaves to the Chinese.
Seriously, if I were Lance's PR team, I'd get back to work on the "How
much has this investigation cost" message. When they first brought it
up, it was too early. It didn't resonate well. Right now, Lance's team
could release a PR piece talking about the cost of a school's head start
program vs the investigation, and question which has more value.
Just sayin.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
Fred Flintstein
>> "Fred"<fred....@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:096757b6-f475-47c8...@w9g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> On Mar 12, 8:15 am, coterock<someon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Interesting
>> article:http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/03/news/georgia-republican-questi...
>>
>> Much between the lines.
>>
>> a link that works:
>>
>> http://www.sport24.co.za/OtherSport/Cycling/Armstrong-probe-questioned-20110312
>>
>> Fred
>
> "I would like to know how much has been spent on this investigation and
> why so much has been spent."
>
> Margaret Hamburg, commissioner of the FDA, said her agency is looking
> into Novitzky's investigation and would provide information on how much
> the probe is costing.
>
> "I believe millions have been spent, lots of time, and I would like to
> know what priority that is in the food chain," Kingston said.
>
> Having just gotten back from a lobbying trip to DC and spoken directly
> with several Congressmen/women, I can tell you that any argument that
> includes "cost" as part of its support is going to get a great deal of
> conservative Republicans suggest privately that things have gone too
> far, but that they have to draw the line for our great grandchildren,
> the ones who will be indentured slaves to the Chinese.
>
> Seriously, if I were Lance's PR team, I'd get back to work on the "How
> much has this investigation cost" message. When they first brought it
> up, it was too early. It didn't resonate well. Right now, Lance's team
> could release a PR piece talking about the cost of a school's head start
> program vs the investigation, and question which has more value.
>
> Just sayin.
Don't forget the taxpayer paid European vacation trip.
Fred Flintstein
Brad Anders
wrote:
> >"Fred" <fred.gar...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:096757b6-f475-47c8...@w9g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> >On Mar 12, 8:15 am, coterock <someon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Interesting
> > article:http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/03/news/georgia-republican-questi...
>
> > Much between the lines.
>
> >a link that works:
>
>
> >Fred
>
> "I would like to know how much has been spent on this investigation and
> why so much has been spent."
>
> Margaret Hamburg, commissioner of the FDA, said her agency is looking
> into Novitzky's investigation and would provide information on how much
> the probe is costing.
>
> "I believe millions have been spent, lots of time, and I would like to
> know what priority that is in the food chain," Kingston said.
Gee, I seem to remember asking this question of Laff about 4 months
ago and being told there was no issue. Hmm.
Brad Anders
Fred Flintstein
If Novitsky is under pressure to justify the investigation
then I think that Magic Tuesday has to come soon. If or
when it comes I think we'll see just how little he's come
up with.
I'm curious about how many millions have been spent failing
to get Bonds for perjury years after the investigation
successfully shut down the target steroid manufacturing
operation.
Fred Flintstein
BLafferty
>> "Fred"<fred....@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:096757b6-f475-47c8...@w9g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> On Mar 12, 8:15 am, coterock<someon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Interesting
>> article:http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/03/news/georgia-republican-questi...
>>
>> Much between the lines.
>>
>> a link that works:
>>
>> http://www.sport24.co.za/OtherSport/Cycling/Armstrong-probe-questioned-20110312
>>
>> Fred
>
> "I would like to know how much has been spent on this investigation and
> why so much has been spent."
>
> Margaret Hamburg, commissioner of the FDA, said her agency is looking
> into Novitzky's investigation and would provide information on how much
> the probe is costing.
>
> "I believe millions have been spent, lots of time, and I would like to
> know what priority that is in the food chain," Kingston said.
>
> Having just gotten back from a lobbying trip to DC and spoken directly
> with several Congressmen/women, I can tell you that any argument that
> includes "cost" as part of its support is going to get a great deal of
> conservative Republicans suggest privately that things have gone too
> far, but that they have to draw the line for our great grandchildren,
> the ones who will be indentured slaves to the Chinese.
>
> Seriously, if I were Lance's PR team, I'd get back to work on the "How
> much has this investigation cost" message. When they first brought it
> up, it was too early. It didn't resonate well. Right now, Lance's team
> could release a PR piece talking about the cost of a school's head start
> program vs the investigation, and question which has more value.
>
> Just sayin.
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
>
>
direction you can take. Politicians who bring pressure like this on the
Justice Dept. (forget the FDA) tend to only firm up the resolve of the
investigators and the US Attorney, particularly when the questioning
comes from a Georgia Republican questioning a Democrat agency head at a
budget hearing. Note to Georgia dumb dumb, the money is coming out of
the Justice Dept. budget. Try getting appointed to the right committee.
ROTFL!!
Fred
> On 3/12/2011 12:07 PM, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>
> >>news:096757b6-f475-47c8...@w9g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Mar 12, 8:15 am, coterock<someon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Interesting
> >> article:http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/03/news/georgia-republican-questi...
>
> >> Much between the lines.
>
> >> a link that works:
>
Really, rolling on the floor? You must be either a simpleton or
easily amused, or both. I'm betting on both.
Fred
BLafferty
FuckTard. ;-)
Fredmaster of Brainerd
> direction you can take. Politicians who bring pressure like this on the
> Justice Dept. (forget the FDA) tend to only firm up the resolve of the
> investigators and the US Attorney, particularly when the questioning
> comes from a Georgia Republican questioning a Democrat agency head at a
> budget hearing. Note to Georgia dumb dumb, the money is coming out of
> the Justice Dept. budget. Try getting appointed to the right committee.
> ROTFL!!
When the investigation that you're a fan of is taking
much longer than you predicted to get anywhere, this
is the best (maybe the only) PR direction you can take.
Fredmaster Ben
Anton Berlin
The fact the govt has spent this much money means two things - it was
bearing fruit and they are going to try to harvest.
They can't walk away now.
Simply Fred
> If Novitsky is under pressure to justify the investigation
> then I think that Magic Tuesday has to come soon.
If the FMs get to eat pancakes on shrove tuesday, hopefully they get
doughnuts on magic tuesday.
Frederick the Great
BLafferty <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> When you're guilty and going down, this is the best (maybe the only) PR
> direction you can take. Politicians who bring pressure like this on the
> Justice Dept. (forget the FDA) tend to only firm up the resolve of the
> investigators and the US Attorney, particularly when the questioning
> comes from a Georgia Republican questioning a Democrat agency head at a
> budget hearing. Note to Georgia dumb dumb, the money is coming out of
> the Justice Dept. budget. Try getting appointed to the right committee.
> ROTFL!!
"Margaret Hamburg, commissioner of the FDA, said her
agency is looking into Novitzky's investigation and
would provide information on how much the probe is costing."
What you are saying is that the commissioner of the FDA
does not know that the FDA is not spending money on
this investigation, and you do.
--
Old Fritz
Fred Fredburger
Yes, I remember that. It wasn't like he had any reason for believing it
was a non-issue so much as he was just blowing the idea off.
BLafferty
started as primarily Novitsky has gone far beyond just him. The FDA
isn't paying the freight for for the DoJ's part of the investigation.
If you look at most high profile investigations/prosecutions, they are
money losers. That's because, as a society, we have criminal laws that
we conduct investigations under that don't usually have a monetary
payback after a conviction. That said, in this case, that remains to be
seen given the deep pockets of some of the probable perps.
Frederick the Great
BLafferty <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
Could you make that "Ass Hat"?
> It's an inter-agency investigation. What
> started as primarily Novitsky has gone far beyond just him. The FDA
> isn't paying the freight for for the DoJ's part of the investigation.
>
> If you look at most high profile investigations/prosecutions, they are
> money losers. That's because, as a society, we have criminal laws that
> we conduct investigations under that don't usually have a monetary
> payback after a conviction. That said, in this case, that remains to be
> seen given the deep pockets of some of the probable perps.
You miss my point. You want us to believe the commissioner
of the FDA does not know to tell the congressional committee
meeting on her budget that the FDA is not paying for the
investigation.
--
Old Fritz
BLafferty
> In article<AaKdnS-98JxwZ-bQ...@giganews.com>,
investigation. So what? The Republican troglodyte from Georgia is just
harassing a Democrat agency head with the investigation of Sir Lance. It
would be interesting to know what connection there might be between the
Troglodyte and the Lance PR machine.
BLafferty
Fred Flintstein
Absolutely! The US government never fucks up!
Fred Flintstein
Fred
My statement was cogent as well as succinct.
Fred
Fred
wrote:
Okay, NOW we can ROTFL...
Fred
Fred Fredburger
> Are you really so stupid? Her agency is paying for part of the
> investigation. So what?
Jesus Christ, Dumbass. Earlier you wrote:
>>>> Note to Georgia dumb dumb, the money is coming out of
>>>> the Justice Dept. budget. Try getting appointed to the
>>>> right committee. ROTFL!!
Quit rolling on the floor laughing and try to make some sense. Just
admit you were wrong and quit arguing about it. It's this crap that
makes everyone think you're a nut case.
Michael Press
BLafferty <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
So what? You said earlier
"the money is coming out of the Justice Dept."
Do you wish to retract that assertion?
--
Michael Press
Simply Fred
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/30/jack-kingston-evolution_n_815909.html
If the other 48% formed their own party they would sound a lot more
rational.
Phil H
> BLafferty wrote:
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/30/jack-kingston-evolution_n_81...
>
> If the other 48% formed their own party they would sound a lot more
> rational.
But more importantly, what would be their position on Lance? And how
about the "ball gargling evolutionist party" for a name.
Phil H
RicodJour
Can we make the acronym spell a word? Those are always the best.
R
Fredmaster of Brainerd
UniTard,
Of course the honorable gentleman from Georgia
is a moran. That's his job. I don't think law enforcement
officials should stop investigations because some
congressman questioned the cost. If that happened,
no investigation of financial wrong doing would ever
get results since there is always a congressman who
can be found to defend the interests of the moneyed.
As we know, that's not the case, since all possible
causes of the financial meltdown and wrongdoing in
the mortgage biz were investigated, and the perpetrators
are now safely in jail, I trust.
I don't think any serious person questions the Novitsky
investigation on the ground that it's a money loser. Of course
it is, nobody should think of law enforcement as a profit center
(except for sheriffs abusing the drug-related property confiscation
laws). It is legitimate, however, to question how much resources
FDA or DoJ should be devoting to this case given all the other
shit that goes on in their purview (food safety, mortgage fraud
etc). Maybe I'm wrong and the Novitsky investigation is a
trivial cost compared to the vast expense of, say, shutting
down a corrupt meatpacker. But it's a lot easier to conclude
that it's driven by the high headline value of the targets.
Fredmaster Ben
Fred Flintstein
I missed that. Because I don't read Lafferty for
comprehension.
I'm kind of disquieted that some of you guys do.
You should stop, you might hurt your brain.
Fred Flintstein
Fred Fredburger
This begs the question:
What DO you read Lafferty for?
DirtRoadie
Sometimes it's nearly unavoidable. Rarely is it informative. Often
it's just sad. No, mostly it's just sad.
DR
Fred Flintstein
I read Lafferty for the same reason that people slow
down to gawk at traffic accidents.
Fred Flintstein
Simply Fred
> This begs the question:
> What DO you read Lafferty for?
Intellectual S&M ?
Fredmaster of Brainerd
wrote:
To annoy the people behind you??
Fredmaster Ben
I read it for the naughty bits.