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Mike Jacoubowsky

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Feb 27, 2010, 3:55:31 AM2/27/10
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Or will he still be hung over from partying with the women?
http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-features/news/newsid=448672.html#did+canadian+hockey+celebration

Should be a good game. Haven't decided whether I want to not know about it
and watch it later or not. Sunday's supposed to be our first nice day in a
while, so no way am I going to be seeing it live. Time to ride.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

Tom Kunich

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Feb 27, 2010, 9:59:21 AM2/27/10
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote in message
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>
> Haven't decided whether I want to not know about it and watch it later or
> not. Sunday's supposed to be our first nice day in a while, so no way am I
> going to be seeing it live. Time to ride.

It would be nice if it were warm as well. Seems like I've been wearing
layers forever.


Ryan Cousineau

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Feb 27, 2010, 5:53:22 PM2/27/10
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In article <ks2dnXBqJMicQxXW...@earthlink.com>,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:

> Or will he still be hung over from partying with the women?
> http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-features/news/newsid=448672.html#did+canadian+
> hockey+celebration
>
> Should be a good game. Haven't decided whether I want to not know about it
> and watch it later or not. Sunday's supposed to be our first nice day in a
> while, so no way am I going to be seeing it live. Time to ride.

Ryan will be participating in the demonstration sport of Urban
cyclocross riding in the AM, followed by a quick trip home to get to the
TV for the hockey game. I have a large bottle (like 75 cl) of Pawels
Kwak to get me through.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcou...@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Kurgan Gringioni

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Feb 27, 2010, 9:25:20 PM2/27/10
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"Ryan Cousineau" <rcou...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ryan will be participating in the demonstration sport of Urban
> cyclocross riding in the AM, followed by a quick trip home to get to the
> TV for the hockey game. I have a large bottle (like 75 cl) of Pawels
> Kwak to get me through.

Dumbass -

You should prepare with a few more of those because, once again, CANADA IS
GOING TO BE OUR BITCH.

Get on your knees and bark like a dog. That's an order.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

Ryan Cousineau

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Feb 28, 2010, 2:05:29 AM2/28/10
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In article <hmck88$ve4$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgrin...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Ryan Cousineau" <rcou...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:rcousine-996B94.14532227022010
>
> > Ryan will be participating in the demonstration sport of Urban
> > cyclocross riding in the AM, followed by a quick trip home to get to the
> > TV for the hockey game. I have a large bottle (like 75 cl) of Pawels
> > Kwak to get me through.
>
>
>
> Dumbass -
>
> You should prepare with a few more of those because, once again, CANADA IS
> GOING TO BE OUR BITCH.

I wouldn't be so sure. And if it does happen, then congratulations to
the US for winning _almost_ as many gold medals as Canada.

"All my life I have been in love with gold. I love its colour, its
brilliance, its divine heaviness. I love the texture of gold, and the
warm tang it exudes when I melt it down into a true golden syrup. But,
above all, I love the power that gold alone gives to its owner. I have
worked all my life for gold and, in return, gold has worked for me and
for those enterprises that I have espoused. I ask you, is there any
other substance on earth that so rewards its owner?"

bjwe...@gmail.com

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Feb 28, 2010, 2:45:33 AM2/28/10
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On Feb 28, 12:05 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <hmck88$ve...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>  "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "Ryan Cousineau" <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:rcousine-996B94.14532227022010
>
> > > Ryan will be participating in the demonstration sport of Urban
> > > cyclocross riding in the AM, followed by a quick trip home to get to the
> > > TV for the hockey game. I have a large bottle (like 75 cl) of Pawels
> > > Kwak to get me through.
>
> > Dumbass -
>
> > You should prepare with a few more of those because, once again, CANADA IS
> > GOING TO BE OUR BITCH.
>
> I wouldn't be so sure. And if it does happen, then congratulations to
> the US for winning _almost_ as many gold medals as Canada.
>
> "All my life I have been in love with gold. I love its colour, its
> brilliance, its divine heaviness. I love the texture of gold, and the
> warm tang it exudes when I melt it down into a true golden syrup. But,
> above all, I love the power that gold alone gives to its owner. I have
> worked all my life for gold and, in return, gold has worked for me and
> for those enterprises that I have espoused. I ask you, is there any
> other substance on earth that so rewards its owner?"

Your temporary cornering of the gold market is a moral
victory for the underdog US, because global warming
has put us at a competitive disadvantage in the
Winter Games, which as Uncle Dave pointed out are much
more geographically biased than the summer games.
And now when we do get snow here, it falls in places like
New Jersey and DC where they don't know what to do
with it.

Ben
Of course, in the US we don't believe in moral victories,
so expect us to seek revenge, possibly by imposing
punitive tariffs on the import of Canadian donuts.

Donald Munro

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Feb 28, 2010, 4:36:41 AM2/28/10
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b...@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> Of course, in the US we don't believe in moral victories,
> so expect us to seek revenge, possibly by imposing
> punitive tariffs on the import of Canadian donuts.

You'll just be following the Quebec leadout:
<http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/knows/2609339/story.html>

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Feb 28, 2010, 5:54:50 PM2/28/10
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Ryan's happy now.

Good game. Would love to see a heart rate monitor on the gaolies.

Ryan Cousineau

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Feb 28, 2010, 6:25:54 PM2/28/10
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In article <ooKdncoVuKmqaRfW...@earthlink.com>,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:

> Ryan's happy now.
>
> Good game. Would love to see a heart rate monitor on the gaolies.

It's true, Ryan is happy. I'd especially like to thank Kurgan for
repeatedly taunting me here and on fb, as his sour words have only made
this moment sweeter.

PS: We own the podium. As generous landlords, you may have the second
shelf.

bjwe...@gmail.com

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Feb 28, 2010, 10:07:58 PM2/28/10
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On Feb 28, 4:25 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <ooKdncoVuKmqaRfWnZ2dnUVZ_vSdn...@earthlink.com>,

>  "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>
> > Ryan's happy now.
>
> > Good game. Would love to see a heart rate monitor on the gaolies.
>
> It's true, Ryan is happy. I'd especially like to thank Kurgan for
> repeatedly taunting me here and on fb, as his sour words have only made
> this moment sweeter.
>
> PS: We own the podium. As generous landlords, you may have the second
> shelf.

Frozen Dumbass,

Congratulations! And special congratulations on
your exercise of the victor's right to gloat. Next time,
we hope that you will do it even without prodding from
Kurgan. We are teaching you well. One day, Canadians
will be able to gloat without guilt or reservations and
wax patriotic on their glorious defeats of all, including
smaller, lesser, and hapless adversaries, and that
will be the day Canada truly achieves its majority and
joins the company of mature and independent nations.

Ben
RBR Nationbuilder

K. Fred Gauss

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Feb 28, 2010, 10:14:13 PM2/28/10
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b...@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> On Feb 28, 4:25 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <ooKdncoVuKmqaRfWnZ2dnUVZ_vSdn...@earthlink.com>,
>> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ryan's happy now.
>>> Good game. Would love to see a heart rate monitor on the gaolies.
>> It's true, Ryan is happy. I'd especially like to thank Kurgan for
>> repeatedly taunting me here and on fb, as his sour words have only made
>> this moment sweeter.
>>
>> PS: We own the podium. As generous landlords, you may have the second
>> shelf.
>
> Frozen Dumbass,
>
> Congratulations! And special congratulations on
> your exercise of the victor's right to gloat. Next time,
> we hope that you will do it even without prodding from
> Kurgan. We are teaching you well. One day, Canadians
> will be able to gloat without guilt or reservations

... even when they haven't accomplished anything ...

That part's important and shouldn't be left out.

Kurgan Gringioni

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Feb 28, 2010, 10:18:10 PM2/28/10
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"Ryan Cousineau" <rcou...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rcousine-332AD3.15255328022010@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...

> In article <ooKdncoVuKmqaRfW...@earthlink.com>,
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>
>> Ryan's happy now.
>>
>> Good game. Would love to see a heart rate monitor on the gaolies.
>
> It's true, Ryan is happy. I'd especially like to thank Kurgan for
> repeatedly taunting me here and on fb, as his sour words have only made
> this moment sweeter.

Dumbasses -

I would like to dispute the accusation that my words on facebook were
"sour". Cousineau quoted a "great American" (his words) and I responded with
this analysis, which is, IMO, spot-on accurate and therefore extremely
painful for Canadians to contemplate with any level of self awareness:

<begin facebook snippet>

"@Cousineau: thank you for acknowledging that Americans are great and
affirming the inferiority complex which afflicts our little sisters to the
north.

My heart bleeds for the poor Canadians. Americans are universally recognized
around the world as being arrogant, ignorant tools, yet our Canadian sisters
look up to us to such an extent that they try to emulate the worst in
self-absorbed American behavior with misguided, jingoistic, nationalistic
campaigns like OWN THE PODIUM. What's next? Mission Accomplished? Woe
Canada! My heart bleeds for you!"

<end facebook snippet>

heather

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Feb 28, 2010, 11:28:41 PM2/28/10
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b...@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:

> Frozen Dumbass,
>
> Congratulations! And special congratulations on
> your exercise of the victor's right to gloat. Next time,
> we hope that you will do it even without prodding from
> Kurgan. We are teaching you well. One day, Canadians
> will be able to gloat without guilt or reservations and
> wax patriotic on their glorious defeats of all, including
> smaller, lesser, and hapless adversaries, and that
> will be the day Canada truly achieves its majority and
> joins the company of mature and independent nations.
>
> Ben
> RBR Nationbuilder

fellow dumbass,

Just last night I had a dream that you were very happily in love with
someone, and I was pissed off and upset about it. wtf!? I mean, I know
none of us are perfect saints in our dreams, but that's a new level of
dreamland childishness for me. I blame you partly at least, for writing
funny things like "And special congratulations on your exercise of the
victor's right to gloat". I guess when I'm asleep I turn into a greedy
three year old that doesn't want to share anything I like.

heather
exercising her right to embarrass people on rbr

K. Fred Gauss

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Feb 28, 2010, 11:35:47 PM2/28/10
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The sense of what Ryan was getting at remains the same if you substitute
"intentionally snarky" for "sour".

Either way, good job!

bjwe...@gmail.com

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Mar 1, 2010, 12:01:24 AM3/1/10
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On Feb 28, 8:18 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Ryan Cousineau" <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:rcousine-332AD3.15255328022010@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
>
> > In article <ooKdncoVuKmqaRfWnZ2dnUVZ_vSdn...@earthlink.com>,

> > "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>
> >> Ryan's happy now.
>
> >> Good game. Would love to see a heart rate monitor on the gaolies.
>
> > It's true, Ryan is happy. I'd especially like to thank Kurgan for
> > repeatedly taunting me here and on fb, as his sour words have only made
> > this moment sweeter.
>
> Dumbasses -
>
> I would like to dispute the accusation that my words on facebook were
> "sour". Cousineau quoted a "great American" (his words) and I responded with
> this analysis, which is, IMO, spot-on accurate and therefore extremely
> painful for Canadians to contemplate with any level of self awareness:
>
> <begin facebook snippet>
>
> "@Cousineau: thank you for acknowledging that Americans are great and
> affirming the inferiority complex which afflicts our little sisters to the
> north.
>
> My heart bleeds for the poor Canadians. Americans are universally recognized
> around the world as being arrogant, ignorant tools, yet our Canadian sisters
> look up to us to such an extent that they try to emulate the worst in
> self-absorbed American behavior with misguided, jingoistic, nationalistic
> campaigns like OWN THE PODIUM. What's next? Mission Accomplished? Woe
> Canada! My heart bleeds for you!"
>
> <end facebook snippet>
>
> thanks,
>
> Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

"Sour grapes, you leave such a bad taste
Sour grapes, I don't need you anyways
Sour grapes, feeding, feeding my rage"

Sincerely,
The Descendents

Kurgan Gringioni

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"b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjwe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Sour grapes, you leave such a bad taste
> Sour grapes, I don't need you anyways
> Sour grapes, feeding, feeding my rage"
>
> Sincerely,
> The Descendents

Dumbass -

I wrote that well before the game started.

Ryan Cousineau

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Mar 1, 2010, 12:23:24 AM3/1/10
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In article <4b8b...@news.x-privat.org>,

You think that's bad? I posted a joke about the men's hockey gold being
the "15th-best moment in my life" on fb, and had several friends ask,
"only 15th?"

I listed my last bike-race victory as one of the 15 moments that were
ahead of it,

Ryan Cousineau

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Mar 1, 2010, 1:03:09 AM3/1/10
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In article
<0fcd66e4-0b82-46f0...@q2g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
"b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjwe...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh no, I would have gloated without Kurgan's prodding. It was only more
fun that way.

I'd like to point out that both the opening and closing ceremonies
featured the traditional Canadian Parade of Subjugated Nations,
representing the Indian communities brought under the merciful thumb of
Her Majesty's subjection.

bjwe...@gmail.com

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Mar 1, 2010, 1:28:11 AM3/1/10
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On Feb 28, 10:16 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:bde646e9-e117-4673...@b9g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>
> > "Sour grapes, you leave such a bad taste
> >  Sour grapes, I don't need you anyways
> >  Sour grapes, feeding, feeding my rage"
>
> > Sincerely,
> > The Descendents
>
> Dumbass -
>
> I wrote that well before the game started.

Okay, but at the time Ryan was already gazing down upon
us from his stance atop a MOUNTAIN OF OLYMPIC GOLD.

Making fun of slogans like OWN THE PODIUM is always
worthwhile, but since the Canadians have in fact, owned
it - and seemingly without touching off a rash of doping or
financial scandals, the self-righteous little snowmen -
it's got a whiff of sour grapes. Sure, they had to sacrifice
a luger to appease some Klamath deity, but they didn't
even have to engage in massive human rights violations
or suppression of minorities like the Chinese - they just
cleverly held the games on the opposite coast from Quebec.

Now, you may say that even when it's successful, we should
make fun of OWN THE PODIUM, and as you put it, imitating


"self-absorbed American behavior with misguided, jingoistic

nationalistic campaigns." I agree with you, it's sad.

But it's kind of like the 3rd-World countries that protest against
greenhouse-gas emission treaties - their point is, hey you
1st Worlders got to industrialize while pumping out all the
coal and diesel smoke you wanted, and leaving mercury in
all the water, and now you turn around and want us to spend
money making sure our shit doesn't stink while we try to lift
ourselves out of poverty? (BTW, China is just going to bypass
the argument by investing in clean energy technology that
the US is too short-sighted to do anything with because of
Senators from oil and coal states.) Sorry for the digression,
anyway: the Canadians having watched us engage in nationalistic
displays of self-congratulation for a century or so, I can
sympathize if they ignore us when we point out that the Olympics
are a sham, just as they get good at the games.

Ben
RBR Canadian Sympathizer

Kurgan Gringioni

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>
> Now, you may say that even when it's successful, we should
> make fun of OWN THE PODIUM, and as you put it, imitating
> "self-absorbed American behavior with misguided, jingoistic
> nationalistic campaigns." I agree with you, it's sad.

<snip>


Dumbass -

Next on the Canadian agenda:

http://freeassociations.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/mission-accomplished1.jpg

Donald Munro

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Mar 1, 2010, 3:34:21 AM3/1/10
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heather wrote:
> Just last night I had a dream that you were very happily in love with
> someone, and I was pissed off and upset about it. wtf!?

Dumbass,
He posts to rbr ergo he has a scintillating if not titillating sex life
just like a banana:

<http://www.damninteresting.com/the-unfortunate-sex-life-of-the-banana>

(There's even a reference to Cavendish in there just to cater for
inexplicable tastes).

Donald Munro

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Mar 1, 2010, 3:37:42 AM3/1/10
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> My heart bleeds for the poor Canadians. Americans are universally
> recognized around the world as being arrogant, ignorant tools, yet our
> Canadian sisters look up to us to such an extent that they try to
> emulate the worst in self-absorbed American behavior with misguided,
> jingoistic, nationalistic campaigns like OWN THE PODIUM. What's next?
> Mission Accomplished? Woe Canada! My heart bleeds for you!"

Is there a Canadian Bush party in Calgary ?

Kyle Legate

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Mar 1, 2010, 3:13:45 PM3/1/10
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article <ooKdncoVuKmqaRfW...@earthlink.com>,
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>
>> Ryan's happy now.
>>
>> Good game. Would love to see a heart rate monitor on the gaolies.
>
> It's true, Ryan is happy. I'd especially like to thank Kurgan for
> repeatedly taunting me here and on fb, as his sour words have only made
> this moment sweeter.
>
> PS: We own the podium. As generous landlords, you may have the second
> shelf.
>
Actually, the Germans have that shelf.

heather

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Mar 1, 2010, 4:40:18 PM3/1/10
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Donald Munro wrote:
> heather wrote:
>> Just last night I had a dream that you were very happily in love with
>> someone, and I was pissed off and upset about it. wtf!?
>
> Dumbass,
> He posts to rbr ergo he has a scintillating if not titillating sex life
> just like a banana:
>
> <http://www.damninteresting.com/the-unfortunate-sex-life-of-the-banana>


so you're telling me that the new rbr euphemisms for whacking are
"asexual cloning" or "grafting a limb" ?

I think I'll stick with "plowing a lonely furrow", thanks! (when&how did
rbr become so agrarian?)

> There's even a reference to Cavendish..

"somewhat lacking in more subtle flavours" maybe that's why I'm not as
big a fan as I should be.

If Ben is disconcerted to have his sex life compared to that of a banana
plant, he should take heart that you didn't choose the article about
slime molds (written by my real life college friend Carol). I would be
making at least one unfortunate reference to a "fruiting body" in this
post if that were the case.
http://www.damninteresting.com/amoebic-morality

h

William Asher

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Mar 1, 2010, 5:01:22 PM3/1/10
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heather <cle...@comcast.net> wrote in
news:7v2qi4...@mid.individual.net:

A better metaphor for sex on rbr is bacterial conjugation, since it
involves the exchange of DNA without really having sex.

http://5z8.info/dont-just-drizzle_v7l9c_asian-brides

Think of it as a messy version of bacterial frottage.

--
Bill Asher

z

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Mar 1, 2010, 6:01:06 PM3/1/10
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Canada won all their medals because of the d!$c0unt m3ds.

K. Fred Gauss

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Mar 1, 2010, 10:36:40 PM3/1/10
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Right. If you were American it'd be #1 (at least for a week). You've got
this weird sense of proportion thing that's keeping you from gloating
properly. I'm just here to help.

K. Fred Gauss

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Mar 1, 2010, 10:41:48 PM3/1/10
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:

> I'd like to point out that both the opening and closing ceremonies
> featured the traditional Canadian Parade of Subjugated Nations,
> representing the Indian communities brought under the merciful thumb of
> Her Majesty's subjection.

Not half bad, there may be hope for you yet.

Ryan Cousineau

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Mar 2, 2010, 12:55:56 AM3/2/10
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In article <7v2lfs...@mid.individual.net>,
Kyle Legate <legat...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Ah, well, at least you got last-winner place instead of first-loser
place?

bjwe...@gmail.com

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On Mar 1, 10:55 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <7v2lfsFkf...@mid.individual.net>,

>  Kyle Legate <legatekB...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > > In article <ooKdncoVuKmqaRfWnZ2dnUVZ_vSdn...@earthlink.com>,

> > >  "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Ryan's happy now.
>
> > >> Good game. Would love to see a heart rate monitor on the gaolies.
>
> > > It's true, Ryan is happy. I'd especially like to thank Kurgan for
> > > repeatedly taunting me here and on fb, as his sour words have only made
> > > this moment sweeter.
>
> > > PS: We own the podium. As generous landlords, you may have the second
> > > shelf.
>
> > Actually, the Germans have that shelf.
>
> Ah, well, at least you got last-winner place instead of first-loser
> place?

Good Lord, you Canuckleheads are fickle!
Legate moves to Europe and you're so taken
aback by this failure of allegiance to motherland
that you start calling him a USanian??

Ben

Ryan Cousineau

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Mar 2, 2010, 2:34:52 AM3/2/10
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In article
<733ac850-1c6f-4add...@b9g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
"b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <bjwe...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oops. That's true. Legate is as Canadian as Chris Del Bosco, and I
should have recognized that.

bjwe...@gmail.com

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Mar 2, 2010, 3:03:42 AM3/2/10
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Disquieting!

I don't know whether to feel embarrassed or
flattered. Or to take out a protection order. Well,
I ruled out the protection order, as having to
explain rbr to the cops let alone a judge would be
just too excruciating, so I'm going to go with feeling
embarraflattered.

Ben
blushes easily

Donald Munro

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Mar 2, 2010, 3:34:17 AM3/2/10
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b...@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> Legate moves to Europe and you're so taken
> aback by this failure of allegiance to motherland
> that you start calling him a USanian??

That's when he swapped allegiance (and unflagging enthusiasm) to the
lemon club.

Donald Munro

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Mar 2, 2010, 3:46:42 AM3/2/10
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Donald Munro wrote:
> > There's even a reference to Cavendish..

heather wrote:
> "somewhat lacking in more subtle flavours" maybe that's why I'm not as
> big a fan as I should be.

According to <http://www.livestrong.com/article/13968-sperm-taste/> (you
don't need a shadyurl here) you're probably better off with subtle flavours.

Kyle Legate

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Mar 2, 2010, 12:31:20 PM3/2/10
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I'm sorry.

Kyle Legate

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Mar 2, 2010, 12:33:52 PM3/2/10
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Fortunately the lemon club allows dual nationality.

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