Poor Brent Kay was delusional and duped by Floyd
DA74
released? The poor guy was trying to negotiate with Lance to get Radio
Shack to hire Floyd after the Tour de France this year so Floyd could
go win the Vuelta in September. Seriously.
The best part is that he wrote that an appropriate salary for Floyd
would be an average of Cavendish's and Contador's and Wiggin's current
salaries. According to him Floyd "should be compensated as a Tour de
France champion." He also said that "several riders of much lower
status make a million or so a year."
He referenced Floyd's second place at Battenkill as evidence. The race
a few weeks ago where Floyd was racing against a bunch of third rate
domestic pros and got dropped by a U23 Holowesko rider like a bad
habit near the finale.
Brent also mentioned that maybe everyone could just be nice to Floyd
and he might just lose those extra 10 pounds that will help him win
the Vuelta.
Unbelievable.
With all that said Floyd was fucking lucky to have a good friend like
him. Brent Kay went out on several limbs to hook him up and pleaded
with him not to go public with the allegations for the sake of him his
wife and Amber. The guy went to bat for him and Floyd just couldn't
help himself.
What a shame.
-DA74
Kyle Legate
> Did you guys even read that craziness in the emails Radio Shack
> released? The poor guy was trying to negotiate with Lance to get Radio
> Shack to hire Floyd after the Tour de France this year so Floyd could go
> win the Vuelta in September. Seriously.
>
Link?
Kyle Legate
Nevermind. Found them in another thread.
raamman
I caught some of that while skimming through the mess that was posted.
I wonder how Bahati regards his rider now seeing as how he was
willing to dump him in a heartbeat for a ( undeserved ) spot on RS.
I wonder what dirt Amber has on Floyd and perhaps his mental state ?
The only thing that is bothering me right now is the report that 2
persons are considering an offer of leniency in exchange for testimony
for the feds ( I am assuming these 2 are neither FL or TH ).
I personally think FL decided to publically commit hari-kari with an
entirely made up story implicating himself ( to give it credence)
along with others in a ploy to shake loose any rotten apples from the
tree; I don't see why anyone would bring into the "inner-circle" a
newcomer like FL states LA did when he joined Postal- I don't see why
LA would be so open and cavalier about such a damning secret.
raamman
By TIM REYNOLDS (AP)
@
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gT5ZMHr7AyUOWw55JucOapCqYGBQD9FRJNT80
(sorry, I don't know the correct protocol when quoting newstories)
(edit)
.....
"Messick said the back-and-forth with Landis begin on April 3, when
Landis called and asked to have lunch. When the two met in Los
Angeles, Landis shared the allegations he has since made public.
Messick said he asked Landis if he really expected anyone to believe
him.
After that meeting, Landis continued to e-mail him.
"Instead of them being on clearing his conscience, they were much more
focused on the injustice of him or his team not being able to be part
of the race," Messick said. "My observation was that I had a lunch
with him in which he seemed lucid. Then I get wacky e-mails at night.
"I'm accustomed to teams saying we deserve to be part of this race.
But this was a first, we never had someone try to do what he did. ...
He recorded our first lunch. There was never a moment I didn't suspect
he was going to leak all this stuff."
Kay also appealed to Messick about adding Landis' team to this year's
Tour of California. And he reached out to Armstrong several times,
asking him to take bike rides together and even offering the use of
his homes around the Temecula, Calif., area."
Amit Ghosh
> I don't see why anyone would bring into the "inner-circle" a
> newcomer like FL states LA did when he joined Postal- I don't see why
> LA would be so open and cavalier about such a damning secret.
dumbass,
because among riders it's not a secret.
Ben Trovato
> from the AP story "Armstrong fires back again at Landis"
>
> "I'm accustomed to teams saying we deserve to be part of this race.
> But this was a first, we never had someone try to do what he did. ...
> He recorded our first lunch. There was never a moment I didn't suspect
> he was going to leak all this stuff."
>
Messick's emails all seem written in the expectation that they would
become public. I'll bet all the responses were worked out a few weeks
ago.
raamman
Floyd has indicated that he got an epithany this past December- what
belies the criminal mastermind adjective is the shitstorm approach
with possible legal consequences against himself.
RicodJour
Neither is your parents fucking, but they still do it behind closed
doors.
R
Amit Ghosh
> released? The poor guy was trying to negotiate with Lance to get Radio
> Shack to hire Floyd after the Tour de France this year so Floyd could
> go win the Vuelta in September. Seriously.
>
> The best part is that he wrote that an appropriate salary for Floyd
> would be an average of Cavendish's and Contador's and Wiggin's current
> salaries. According to him Floyd "should be compensated as a Tour de
> France champion." He also said that "several riders of much lower
> status make a million or so a year."
HA HA HA.
this is what kool aid drinking will do to you. people waste too much
mental and physical energy (not to mention money) on this dumbass
sport.
raamman
If LA was so open and cavalier about doping as FL suggests, then LA
would've already had to pay out a fortune in hush money to smarter
folks who would've used the opportunity to RECORD the event
Amit Ghosh
dumbass,
he admitted to using performance enhancing drugs at the hospital.
the omerta works is that the people who critical information don't
have an interest in sharing it.
Betty Munro
>>
>> The best part is that he wrote that an appropriate salary for Floyd
>> would be an average of Cavendish's and Contador's and Wiggin's current
>> salaries.
Amit Ghosh wrote:
> HA HA HA.
>
> this is what kool aid drinking will do to you. people waste too much
> mental and physical energy (not to mention money) on this dumbass
> sport.
Inflation. The price of kool aid has gone up. Just ask the Wall street
kool aid drinkers.
Scott
uh, wasn't he using life saving drugs at the hospital? It's
coincidental that they're often misused as performance enhancing.
Only the dumbest of the dumbasses would hold it against Armstrong to
have used EPO while battling cancer and the effects of chemo.
raamman
No, it is known he did use EPO while in recovery from his chemo- I
think his '99 alleged positive might stem from the sophistictation of
the methodolgy and instrumentation that enabled the detection many
months later; what butthead refered to was the hearsay testimony of
Andreaus whif- meaningless.
Scott
I don't know. Amit specifically said "he admitted to using
performance enhancing drugs at the hospital." Sounds like he was
talking about LA admitting using drugs while in the hospital, not Mrs.
Andreau's rants. Maybe I misinterpreted Amit's post.
DA74
>
> - Show quoted text -
Fucktard,
There is no chance of EPO detection months after taking it - and there
never has been. Even with the larger doses used back in '99 the
detection time with the "sophistication of the methodology and
instrumentation" only looked back 3 days for urine. The only reason
anyone got caught with the retroactive testing was because they were
taking this shit during the grand tours and that's because there was
no epo test at the time. All they had to worry about was keeping their
hematocrit below 50%.
You're Welcome,
DA74
Amit Ghosh
dumbass,
the andreus and stephanie mcilvain say armstrong admitted to taking
various performance enhancing drugs in the hospital. you can even
listen to the recording that lemond made, but mcilvain now retracts
those statements.
Amit Ghosh
> uh, wasn't he using life saving drugs at the hospital? It's
> coincidental that they're often misused as performance enhancing.
> Only the dumbest of the dumbasses would hold it against Armstrong to
> have used EPO while battling cancer and the effects of chemo.\\dumbass,
dumbass,
you know that's not what i'm talking about
A. Dumas Fred
> battling cancer
Undergoing treatment for cancer.
Scott
No, I didn' know that's what you were talking about. You often make
truly nonsensical statements re: pro cycling, so it's tough to know
whether you're on to something or up to something. I wouldn't put it
past you for a moment to have been referring to Armstrong's use of EPO
during his cancer treatment.
Scott
Whatever.
A. Dumas Fred
> On May 24, 5:04 am, "A. Dumas Fred" wrote:
>> Scott wrote:
>>> battling cancer
>> Undergoing treatment for cancer.
>
> Whatever.
One is delusional voodoo for starry-eyed morons, the other is factual.
Scott
No, just semantics.
RicodJour
The words in which an endeavour is couched indicates the mindset.
Battling cancer describes involvement and a pro-active approach.
Undergoing treatment describes a passive approach.
In medicine, as in much of life, these are not little things.
R
raamman
a recient report indicated a patients will to live had negligible
effect on cancer treatment.
Scott
That's all well and good, but the patient still considers it a battle.
RicodJour
> On May 25, 10:15 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 25, 5:43 am, "A. Dumas Fred" <alexan...@dumas.fr> wrote:
>
> > > Scott wrote:
> > > > On May 24, 5:04 am, "A. Dumas Fred" wrote:
> > > >> Scott wrote:
> > > >>> battling cancer
> > > >> Undergoing treatment for cancer.
>
> > > > Whatever.
>
> > > One is delusional voodoo for starry-eyed morons, the other is factual.
>
> > The words in which an endeavour is couched indicates the mindset.
> > Battling cancer describes involvement and a pro-active approach.
> > Undergoing treatment describes a passive approach.
>
> > In medicine, as in much of life, these are not little things.
>
>
> effect on cancer treatment.
Outlook may not necessarily affect the outcome (though the placebo
effect is well-documented and not in question) it will affect the
person's frame of mind and perceived quality of life.
R