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Outliers - The Story of Success - My Rant

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Phil H

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Jun 10, 2011, 9:35:45 PM6/10/11
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So I'm reading this book by Malcolm Gladwell; an interesting
collection of anecdotes covering almost everything from Bill Gates to
Korean Culture. The former as a story of US success and the latter of
cultural failings and the high incidence of Korean Airlines' plane
crashes. No mention of Lance A, except for the tale of the southern
irascible gentleman tormented for several months by the owner and
patrons of an adjacent filling station. Ignoring his notorious short
temper and many warnings he finally emptied both barrels of his
shotgun at his tormentors, killing one, maiming another and wounding a
third. When the jury was polled there was only one who recorded a
guilty verdict. As one of the other jurors put it, "he wouldn't have
been much of a man if he hadn't shot them fellows."
So you frigging whining, holier than thou Lance haters, given who LA
is, what did you expect? Roll over and let some dope taking mofo take
the prize. Sheet, he's got more balls than a roomfull of BLs and ABs
put together.
I hope they try him and find him not guilty of anything. Justice is
being tried by a jury of his peers and as that previous juror put it,
he wouldn't be much of of man if he didn't whoop their ass :)
Phil H

Fred Flintstein

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Jun 11, 2011, 12:36:26 AM6/11/11
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On 6/10/2011 8:35 PM, Phil H wrote:
> I hope they try him and find him not guilty of anything. Justice is
> being tried by a jury of his peers and as that previous juror put it,
> he wouldn't be much of of man if he didn't whoop their ass :)

As I've said before, first they have to find a law that
he's violated. I think Novitsky will need some luck with
that.

F

Jimmy July

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Jun 11, 2011, 3:05:39 AM6/11/11
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On 6/10/2011 6:35 PM, Phil H wrote:

> So you frigging whining, holier than thou Lance haters, given who LA
> is, what did you expect? Roll over and let some dope taking mofo take
> the prize. Sheet, he's got more balls than a roomfull of BLs and ABs
> put together.

Setting the bar awfully low, aren't we?

--D-y

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Jun 11, 2011, 10:48:53 PM6/11/11
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You should publish, if no one has ever told you.
--D-y


RicodJour

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Jun 12, 2011, 9:31:29 AM6/12/11
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On Jun 10, 9:35 pm, Phil H <pholma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So I'm reading this book by Malcolm Gladwell; an interesting
> collection of anecdotes covering almost everything from Bill Gates to
> Korean Culture. The former as a story of US success and the latter of
> cultural failings and the high incidence of Korean Airlines' plane
> crashes.

I rip Gladwell's audiobooks and listen to them in the car. I'm now
listening to What The Dog Saw, another Gladwell goodie. Great stuff
and he has a pleasant enough voice.

R

DC

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Jun 13, 2011, 4:39:31 AM6/13/11
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Fred Flintstein said the following on 11/06/2011 12:36 PM:

> As I've said before, first they have to find a law that
> he's violated. I think Novitsky will need some luck with
> that.

Have him testify before a grand jury. He might well break the law then.


Fred Flintstein

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Jun 13, 2011, 9:18:49 AM6/13/11
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Dumbass,

I don't recall.

F

Phil H

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Jun 13, 2011, 3:03:30 PM6/13/11
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On Jun 13, 6:18 am, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcremoveglobal.net>
wrote:

Ask Marion Jones and Tammy Thomas about what law they broke. If Lance
did take drugs and he lies about it to the GJ then he risks the same
fate.
Phil H

Fred Flintstein

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Jun 13, 2011, 3:28:21 PM6/13/11
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Dumbass,

I'm not familiar with Marion Jones case. But TT did not get convicted
for lying about taking dope. She was convicted for lying about where
she got it. Since she got it from a source that was manufacturing it
illegally, she paid the price. Because, and please pay attention, it
was relevant to a criminal prosecution.

As I have been telling dumbasses like yourself for a long time now,
doping for a bike race is not a criminal act. If he doped and doped and
doped and doped and doped and doped and doped and doped and doped and
doped and doped and doped and doped and doped and doped and doped, and
then said he didn't take any dope, the odds of a perjury conviction
are very remote in all jurisdictions except the crazy ass one between
Lafferty's ears.

And if they ask a difficult question about something 10 years ago or
more, "I don't recall" has no chance of hanging him on perjury.

Establishing that a law was violated is not going to be a trivial task.
The odds of LANCE facing a perjury conviction are laughable.

F

Phil H

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Jun 13, 2011, 4:15:03 PM6/13/11
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On Jun 13, 12:28 pm, Fred Flintstein
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What part of lying to the GJ don't you get. I never said either were
convicted of taking drugs just lying to the GJ. My statement stands,
your assertion that Lance could not be convicted of the same thing has
at least 2 relevant counter examples......and you call me a dumbass.
Gee thanks.
Phil H

Fred Flintstein

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Jun 13, 2011, 5:01:52 PM6/13/11
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Sheesh.

You are quoted above. Did you say "just lying to the GJ"? Or did you
say "If Lance did take drugs and he lies about it to the GJ then he
risks the same fate."?

TT wasn't convicted of lying about taking drugs. I explained that, in
the part where I said "please pay attention". If he lies about taking
drugs, even though he's lying, he won't see a perjury conviction on
that unless it is somehow linked to a criminal act. That's where the
difference is with TT.

F

Frederick the Great

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Jun 13, 2011, 6:56:40 PM6/13/11
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In article <H5adnfI45YZL-WvQ...@giganews.com>,
Fred Flintstein <bob.sc...@sbcremoveglobal.net> wrote:

> The odds of LANCE facing a perjury conviction are laughable.

Even laffable.

--
Old Fritz

Phil H

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Jun 13, 2011, 7:52:20 PM6/13/11
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On Jun 13, 2:01 pm, Fred Flintstein <bob.schwa...@sbcremoveglobal.net>

You don't think that the GJ will ask him just that one question do
you? Did you take PDs....no. So you don't know anything about the
alleged claims of others that there was an organized doping program
involving transportation of PDs (aka controlled substances) etc etc?
Oh yeh, I knew all about that but I didn't take any drugs
myself..............hmmm.
Now, ask me if I think it will come to this and my answer is probably
yes except that to be consistent he'll deny all knowledge and if it
comes to a trial he'll not get convicted of anything.
Phil H

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