Cycling is dead now - the vicious cycle.

Anton Berlin

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Jul 25, 2010, 11:57:08 AM7/25/10

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Anyone else notice the only 3-5 deep crowds on the Champs?

Worst crowds ever!

They've managed to piss and shit on the sport enough that no one wants
to come near it, sponsorship money will follow the crowds out the
exits.

Thankfully the riders won't be able to afford EPO and Ferrari ( the
Dr. not the car! ) any longer and we will see a return of people that
race for the love of the sport.

Amit Ghosh

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Jul 25, 2010, 12:18:33 PM7/25/10

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dumbass,

luckily ferrari charges on a sliding scale : 10% of your salary.

RicodJour

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Jul 25, 2010, 12:19:39 PM7/25/10

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On Jul 25, 11:57 am, Anton Berlin <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yeah! I can't wait to see the helicopter coverage of industrial park
crits. Woot, woot!

R

GoneBeforeMyTime

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Jul 25, 2010, 1:32:22 PM7/25/10

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Anton Berlin wrote:
> Anyone else notice the only 3-5 deep crowds on the Champs?
>
> Worst crowds ever!
>
> They've managed to piss and shit on the sport enough that no one wants
> to come near it, sponsorship money will follow the crowds out the
> exits.

Well, rbr hasn't exactly been very kind or overly affectionate either over
the years. But I think it's pretty obvious that when it comes to big media
and the tour, it's such a massive marketing money machine on so many levels
that even the massively doped peloton has had and probably continue to have
little effort on it's popularity in that regard. I don't believe the media
moguls care much about doping, just about Tour dollars, market share as
usual. Lots of races will come and go, but the Tour will endure as a
cultural extravaganza. The Tour seems to stand very well on it's own legs,
doped or not and big media understands this. However, if they don't get
control of the Mardi Graz crowd, it could lose its luster in that regard.
It's starting to get pretty goofy out there, and they need to clamp down on
some of those idiots.

Betty

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Jul 25, 2010, 1:38:31 PM7/25/10

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Anton Berlin wrote:
> Worst crowds ever!

The Tourmalet was deserted or you were too fixated on the comely ewe
that crossed the road to notice the crowds.

Scott

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Jul 25, 2010, 2:08:44 PM7/25/10

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I'd bet a dollar to a donut that the smaller crowds were primarily
influenced by the economy and had very little, if anything, to do with
concerns about doping in the sport. Only the most naive 'fan' hasn't
been aware of the doping in cycling since the very beginning and may
have been caught off guard by the FLandis allegations.

Anton Berlin

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Jul 25, 2010, 4:00:16 PM7/25/10

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Seriously - I've never seen such small crowds on the Champs.
Pathetic. At this rate the Tour will end up having a grand finish in
an industrial parc on the outside of Paris. They won't even manage to
get the traffic disrupted in the future.

Frederick the Great

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Jul 25, 2010, 8:27:41 PM7/25/10

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In article <LJqdnXFYFIa66NHR...@sti.net>,
"GoneBeforeMyTime" <Fa...@EuroForums.com> wrote:

> Anton Berlin wrote:
> > Anyone else notice the only 3-5 deep crowds on the Champs?
> >
> > Worst crowds ever!
> >
> > They've managed to piss and shit on the sport enough that no one wants
> > to come near it, sponsorship money will follow the crowds out the
> > exits.
>
> Well, rbr hasn't exactly been very kind or overly affectionate either over
> the years.

For years you have criticized.
The result is what? No change? Worse? Better?

--
Old Fritz

raamman

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Jul 25, 2010, 11:29:18 PM7/25/10

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considering the number of french won stages the lack of depth for the
crowd is significant