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DirtRoadie

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Jul 20, 2010, 8:39:57 PM7/20/10
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RicodJour

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Jul 20, 2010, 9:28:35 PM7/20/10
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On Jul 20, 8:39 pm, DirtRoadie <DirtRoa...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://www.bicycling.com/tour-de-france/tour-features/saying-no-sag-w...

My admiration for the guy knows no bounds. He has to be a second
round draft pick on any team. He adds way more than his palmares.

R

DirtRoadie

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Jul 20, 2010, 9:40:22 PM7/20/10
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One way to get to ride a yellow bike for a bit. Did he have one for
his 1 day in the maillot jaune Stage 7-2001?
DR

Amit Ghosh

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Jul 20, 2010, 9:46:35 PM7/20/10
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> DR

what a douchebag. the entire saxo team needs riding lessons.

DirtRoadie

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Jul 20, 2010, 9:55:33 PM7/20/10
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On Jul 20, 7:28 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:

http://video.saxobank.com/video/683038

Scott

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Jul 20, 2010, 10:06:41 PM7/20/10
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shut up

Amit Ghosh

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Jul 20, 2010, 10:10:19 PM7/20/10
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dumbass,

voigt is a fucking hypocrite. perhaps he is a likable guy, but he gets
indignant when the press suggests that cyclists are doping, yet he has
spent a large part of his career working for guys like basso and frank
schleck (admitted fuentes clients) not to mention his boss riis. i
don't eat up his two-faced act.

derf...@gmail.com

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Jul 20, 2010, 10:48:41 PM7/20/10
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On Jul 20, 10:10 pm, Amit Ghosh <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> voigt is a fucking hypocrite. perhaps he is a likable guy, but he gets
> indignant when the press suggests that cyclists are doping, yet he has
> spent a large part of his career working for guys like basso and frank
> schleck (admitted fuentes clients) not to mention his boss riis. i
> don't eat up his two-faced act.

... and don't forget Zabel who is another hypocrite, who was also
indignant about doping then finally admitted it too.

I used to like Voigt ... want to like him ... but ever since the 2006
Deutschland Tour and the Der Spiegel "Haben Sie heute schon gedopt?"
ambush (now sadly gone from YouTube) I couldn't help but think his
indignation was phony. Just like Zabel.

Scott

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Jul 20, 2010, 11:51:34 PM7/20/10
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this may come as a surprise to you, but not every conversation about
cycling has to, or should, revolve around doping. The guy is as tough
as they come, he's got a reputation for fair play, he works very hard
(regardless of who he's working for, I don't care), he damn near
killed himself in a crash last year and then gets up after a serious
crash this year and soldiers on. Oh, yeah, he didn't crash due to
poor bike handling skills, he had a flat during a high speed descent.
Anyone would've crashed, but not just anyone would get up, dust
himself off, and finish the stage.

DirtRoadie

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Jul 20, 2010, 11:57:31 PM7/20/10
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On Jul 20, 9:51 pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Oh, yeah, he didn't crash due to
> poor bike handling skills, he had a flat during a high speed descent.
> Anyone would've crashed, but not just anyone would get up, dust
> himself off, and finish the stage.

Not to mention beating up a kid and taking his bike to do it!

DR

DirtRoadie

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Jul 21, 2010, 12:02:54 AM7/21/10
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On Jul 20, 8:10 pm, Amit Ghosh <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> voigt is a fucking hypocrite. perhaps he is a likable guy, but he gets
> indignant when the press suggests that cyclists are doping, yet he has
> spent a large part of his career working for guys like basso and frank
> schleck (admitted fuentes clients) not to mention his boss riis. i
> don't eat up his two-faced act.

You're right. Anyone who associates with bicycle racers, or who is
one, cannot be trusted. For that matter, anyone who even rides a
bicycle probably has mafia connections.

DR

Fredmaster of Brainerd

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Jul 21, 2010, 3:58:19 AM7/21/10
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On Jul 21, 4:10 am, Amit Ghosh <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 20, 10:06 pm, Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 20, 7:46 pm, Amit Ghosh <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jul 20, 8:39 pm, DirtRoadie <DirtRoa...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > >http://www.bicycling.com/tour-de-france/tour-features/saying-no-sag-w...
>
> > > what a douchebag. the entire saxo team needs riding lessons.
>
> > shut up
>
> dumbass,
>
> voigt is a fucking hypocrite. perhaps he is a likable guy, but he gets
> indignant when the press suggests that cyclists are doping, yet he has
> spent a large part of his career working for guys like basso and frank
> schleck (admitted fuentes clients) not to mention his boss riis. i
> don't eat up his two-faced act.

Dumbass,

Who gives a shit?
Bike racing is entertainment, not a competition
to see who can be the most principled asshole.
You don't always get to choose to work for the
sweetest most squeaky clean boss. Not in
our lives either.

In Voigt's diary entry, after falling off he tells of thinking
of a Conan the Barbarian story where Conan is an
old guy and thinks wearily, "Oh man, it's going to take
days to kill all these people!" That's pretty damn funny.

Fredmaster Ben

RicodJour

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Jul 21, 2010, 9:08:12 AM7/21/10
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On Jul 20, 10:10 pm, Amit Ghosh <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> voigt is a fucking hypocrite. perhaps he is a likable guy, but he gets
> indignant when the press suggests that cyclists are doping, yet he has
> spent a large part of his career working for guys like basso and frank
> schleck (admitted fuentes clients) not to mention his boss riis. i
> don't eat up his two-faced act.

What are you - 12? GTFU already. You watch bike racing, not the
Ecclesiastical Olympics. The adoration and saintly glow that is
projected onto sports stars is normal for a 12 year old, but as in
many things in life, you have to leave that behind when you mature.

No one in pro cycling is obligated to tell the truth in an
entertainment interview. There is no law. Is there doping in
cycling? Duh.

What about a team not disclosing a broken bone in the elbow of a GC
contender, and you bet without that knowledge. What are you hoping
for - a do-over?

Whether Voight doped, doesn't dope, still dopes, knows dopers, read
about dopers, knew a kid whose brother knew a doper, doesn't change
the fact that he is likable, funny, hard-working and generally good
natured. You know, 1/you.

R

Fred Flintstein

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Jul 21, 2010, 9:15:46 AM7/21/10
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On 7/20/2010 7:39 PM, DirtRoadie wrote:
> http://www.bicycling.com/tour-de-france/tour-features/saying-no-sag-wagon
>
> DR

Jens needs to HTFU and carry a roll of duct tape with him
so that he can stop whining like a girl and repair frames
on the spot.

Fred Flintstein

Amit Ghosh

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Jul 21, 2010, 10:48:44 AM7/21/10
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On Jul 21, 9:08 am, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:

> What are you - 12?  GTFU already.  You watch bike racing, not the
> Ecclesiastical Olympics.  The adoration and saintly glow that is
> projected onto sports stars is normal for a 12 year old, but as in
> many things in life, you have to leave that behind when you mature.

> Whether Voight doped, doesn't dope, still dopes, knows dopers, read


> about dopers, knew a kid whose brother knew a doper, doesn't change
> the fact that he is likable, funny, hard-working and generally good
> natured.  You know, 1/you.

dumbass,

you're the one with the juvenile man-crush.

Fred Flintstein

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Jul 21, 2010, 11:30:42 AM7/21/10
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On 7/21/2010 8:08 AM, RicodJour wrote:
> The adoration and saintly glow that is
> projected onto sports stars is normal for a 12 year old, but as in
> many things in life, you have to leave that behind when you mature.

Philly sucks.

Fred Flintstein

Fred on a stick

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Jul 21, 2010, 11:54:42 AM7/21/10
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On 7/21/2010 3:15 PM, Fred Flintstein wrote:

> Jens needs to HTFU and carry a roll of duct tape with him
> so that he can stop whining like a girl and repair frames
> on the spot.

Eugene Christophe didn't repair his frame on the spot. He had to walk 8
miles with it first.

Fred Flintstein

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Jul 21, 2010, 12:12:41 PM7/21/10
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If Jens had had a roll of duct tape the Tour would
have eventually erected a statue at the location.

Fred Flintstein

Frederick the Great

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Jul 21, 2010, 4:21:22 PM7/21/10
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<663012e0-19b4-4a5b...@t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,
DirtRoadie <DirtR...@aol.com> wrote:

> http://www.bicycling.com/tour-de-france/tour-features/saying-no-sag-wagon

Neat.

"In it, the protagonist is Conan the Barbarian,"
The reporter got it wrong.
That is Cohen the Barbarian.

--
Old Fritz

Betty

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Jul 21, 2010, 4:21:51 PM7/21/10
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RicodJour wrote:
>> The adoration and saintly glow that is
>> projected onto sports stars is normal for a 12 year old, but as in
>> many things in life, you have to leave that behind when you mature.

Fred Flintstein wrote:
> Philly sucks.

It doesn't glow anyway.

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