UCI Not Corrupt?
BLafferty
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Yesterday Pat McQuaid made the comical claim that There has never been
corruption in the UCI
The UCI, and McQuaid himself, has a long history of Corruption
During apartheid McQuaid raced in South Africa under an fake name. He
was banned for life by the IOC. How is a person banned for life now an
elected member of the IOC?
After winning the 1997 Laurant Brochard tested Lidocaine. Verburggen
actively covered up the positive, first delaying the announcement then
accepted a back dated TUE to let him off......dispite back dated TUE's
being clearly against the rules
Lance Armstrong tested positive for Cortisone at the 1999 Tour.
Armstrong and his team were given advanced notice of the positive and
allowed to develop an excuse. Despite multiple prior public claims that
he did not have a TUE he produced a back dated TUE, which the UCI
accepted despite it being against the UCI's rules
Julian DeVries, Floyd Landis, and others have said that Armstrong told
them that he paid the UCI $500,000 to make an EPO positive from the 2001
Tour de Suisse disappear. Sylivia Schenk, UCI board member and head of
it's ethics committee said
Quote:
“Since 1998 the UCI has done a lot to combat doping but everything is
different where Armstrong is concerned,” “There is obviously a strong
relationship with Armstrong,” Schenk added. “The UCI took a lot of money
from Armstrong – to my knowledge 500,000 dollars – and now there is
speculation that there are financial connections to Armstrong, as well
as the American market. I do not know what sort of connections
Verbruggen has.”
From 2002-2006 Hein Vebruggen made multiple proclamations that the
Peloton was clean. He even sued WADA for telling the truth about the
sports problems. At the same time Hein was telling people that the sport
was clean they were
Warning Tyler Hamilton that his HR-OFF score was 123.8 on April 24, the
day before L-B-L, where he finished ninth. Five days later on April
29,it was a very high 132.9,(The Limit is 133) with a corresponding
reticulocyte count of 0.22 percent and a haematocrit level of 49.7
percent (the limit being 50)
They were warning Levi that his Off score was 132.8 when the limit is
133 and normal is 90.
We know that dozens of other riders where following similar programs
with Fuentes and had similar questionable blood values.....but the UCI
publicly claimed the sport was clean. This was a lie.
Jesus Manzano gave detailed information about doping in the sport. He
talked about how Fuentes blood doped riders and how Walter Viru, who ran
a UCI blood lab, would give advanced notice of Out of Competition
Control (OCC)to his team and to USPS. The UCI did nothing. They ignored
his claims for years. Fuentes has been arrested twice and Viru was
arrest last year....the UCI pretended Manzano was nuts, bitter, etc.
Verburggen retired from the UCI in order to set up a company that would
own and sell the rights for all ProTour races. Publicly the UCI liked to
pretend that the conflict with the ASO, RCS, and Unipublic was about the
number of teams guaranteed a start spot but the real conflict was TV
rights. Verburggen's power grab was not an attempt to help the sport but
an attempt to enrich himself. For the next 4 years the sport was in
chaos....all because of Verbuggen's greed.
A group headed by Hein Verbuggen and Lance Armstrong tried to buy the
Tour in 2006. It is hard to ignore the conflict of interest when the
head of the UCI and the sports largest rider are business partners. They
were unable to secure funding for the purchase and set out to devalue
the ASO.
The UCI rules in 2007 were clear. If a rider missed a single Out of
Competition Control (OCC) in the 6 weeks prior to a Grand Tour the rider
is not allowed to start the GT. In addition if a rider missed 3 OCC's it
counts as a positive. Rasmussen missed 4 OCC's in the weeks prior to the
Tour. The UCI did nothing
They timed their announcement of the missed tests for the eve of the
Tour, so it would cause maximum embarrassment and damage to the ASO.
Prudhomme said at the time
“Verbruggen wanted to buy the Tour, but we said ‘No thanks,’ so now he
wants to get the price down,”
The UCI set up the BioPassport as an independent oversight that could
insure that riders with questionable blood values, like Levi and Tyler
could be sanctioned without a positive. It was far from independent. In
fact 5 riders whose passports were ruled questionable by the committee
were not pursued by the UCI . Was this because these riders had the
financial resources to fight the sanction and were thus untouchable?
Feel free to add more, this is just a start
BLafferty
--D-y
Makes sense to me. Being able to have a strong organization with an
effective player's union would be nothing but a good thing for
cycling.
--D-y
Brad Anders
starting a league of his own? The guy up the street from me played
from the Cleveland Browns (Reggie Fowler) and put together a deal
(failed) to buy the Vikings. Plenty of other pro athletes have done
similar deals.
The only reason this looks unusual for Armstrong is that he has so
much more money than any other pro cyclist. It didn't work, anyway.
Anton Berlin
profit motive for overseers, cheaters etc.
It's like EBAY - they don't really care about shill bidding because
their profits are greater when shill bidding occurs. I've documented
several cases of shill bidding, EBAY usually turns them off for a few
weeks and then they're back selling either with the same account or a
new account.
If an outside agency policed the fraud on EBAY it would cease
overnight. Same with doping and cycling.
Fred Flintstein
Are you directing that at Laff or his sock puppet?
Fred Flintstein
Fred Flintstein
> A group headed by Hein Verbuggen and Lance Armstrong tried to buy the
> Tour in 2006. It is hard to ignore the conflict of interest when the
> head of the UCI and the sports largest rider are business partners. They
> were unable to secure funding for the purchase and set out to devalue
> the ASO.
Does that explain this?
http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/photos/2001/sep01/trackworlds/MGlance1.shtml
Notice how you can't see where Verbruggen's right hand is.
Fred Flintstein
Frederick the Great
BLafferty <b...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> More on the Armstrong attempt to purchase the TdF
Ohhh. It will be soo cool when he buys the TdF.
We can have a LANCE TdF _every_ year.
--
Old Fritz
--D-y
I thought WADA was an "outside agency".
Ask Floyd (like Kimmage did) and you might think in-house dope control
could be amazingly effective at eliminating those who "we knew were
doping". I mean, you do believe Floyd *now*, right?
If ebay is full of cheats, don't go there. No one is forcing you to do
business through them.
It's the old advice that's best: pick the highest price, including
shipping, that you're willing to pay for an item, bid that price and
wait to see what happens. If you win, great. If you don't, then you
didn't pay too much.
For sellers, shill bids are good as long as they're not the last bid,
or you start getting deliberate "revenge" no-pays.
--D-y
Mike Jacoubowsky
news:66717a83-6df0-4717...@a28g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
Anton: It's so much simpler than even that. A huge percentage of stolen
merchandise would disappear from eBay if they required just one thing-
Serial numbers included with descriptions, where available. This would cost
eBay zero, and enforcement would be through the feedback mechanism. Cleaning
up cycling is far more complicated.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
Frederick the Great
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
Cycling will not be clean until the last professional
race is discontinued.
--
Old Fritz
Fredmaster of Brainerd
> In article <0P2dnWuif4Nor9bQnZ2dnUVZ_h2dn...@earthlink.com>,
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Anton Berlin" <truth_88...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:66717a83-6df0-4717...@a28g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> > > The only way to eliminate the fraud and corruption is to eliminate the
> > > profit motive for overseers, cheaters etc.
>
> > > It's like EBAY - they don't really care about shill bidding because
> > > their profits are greater when shill bidding occurs. I've documented
> > > several cases of shill bidding, EBAY usually turns them off for a few
> > > weeks and then they're back selling either with the same account or a
> > > new account.
>
> > > If an outside agency policed the fraud on EBAY it would cease
> > > overnight. Same with doping and cycling.
>
> > Anton: It's so much simpler than even that. A huge percentage of stolen
> > merchandise would disappear from eBay if they required just one thing-
> > Serial numbers included with descriptions, where available. This would cost
> > eBay zero, and enforcement would be through the feedback mechanism. Cleaning
> > up cycling is far more complicated.
>
> Cycling will not be clean until the last professional
> race is discontinued.
Such naivete! You don't think there's widespread
doping in amateur races?
Dopedmaster Ben
Mike Jacoubowsky
news:rubrum-E3F609....@Hello.NetWork...
I rode maybe two pro-am races so I can't speak to the pros but there was
plenty of it in the amateur ranks back in the day. It wasn't part of a
system; more like an extension of recreational drug use. Kids popping
amphetamines. Why do you think getting rid of the pros will clean things up?
You'd get rid of some of the big $$$ and maybe see less-scientific doping,
but it's not going to go away.
Davey Crockett
| Copied from the CyclingNews Clinic forum today.
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>
| Yesterday Pat McQuaid made the comical claim that There has never been
| corruption in the UCI
>
>
| The UCI, and McQuaid himself, has a long history of Corruption
>
| During apartheid McQuaid raced in South Africa under an fake name. He
| was banned for life by the IOC. How is a person banned for life now an
| elected member of the IOC?
Davey flew this kite perhaps around a year ago.
Nobody (rbr, uci, ioc and several international newpapers) appeared to
be interested.
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Incidentaly, apropro of nothing really, Davey's haemocrit was 52 last
week when in normally clocks in around 47 or 48.
There is no apparent reason for it.
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Davey Crockett
RicodJour
>
> Incidentaly, apropro of nothing really, Davey's haemocrit was 52 last
> week when in normally clocks in around 47 or 48.
>
> There is no apparent reason for it.
Maybe you let some red wine breathe for too long.
R