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Davey Crockett

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Sep 11, 2011, 10:40:33 AM9/11/11
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Out of 10

Vuelta 10
Tour 7
Giro 3

That's a shame because the Giro in recent years has been much more
interesting then the other two.

Even my daughter showed a bit of interest because a couple of times
recently the Giro has gone past the site where she was doing her
GraveRobbing and she loved the goodies that the Caravan was handing out

(GraveRobber == Archaeological excavator)

--
Davey Crockett
Flying the Flag of the English
The Flag of Hengest and Horsa
http://usera.imagecave.com/daveycrockett/englishdragon.jpg

RicodJour

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Sep 11, 2011, 10:44:32 AM9/11/11
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On Sep 11, 10:40 am, Davey Crockett <r...@azurservers.com> wrote:
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> Out of 10
>
> Vuelta 10
> Tour     7
> Giro      3
>
> That's a shame because the Giro in recent years has been much more
> interesting then the other two.

Contador is a wet blanket on a grand tour. The ASO and others will
start paying him not to show up.

R

Davey Crockett

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Sep 11, 2011, 11:35:28 AM9/11/11
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Davey Crockett a écrit profondement:
Well 2011 anyway

Fred Flintstein

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Sep 11, 2011, 7:21:57 PM9/11/11
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On 9/11/2011 9:40 AM, Davey Crockett wrote:
> Out of 10
>
> Vuelta 10
> Tour 7
> Giro 3
>
> That's a shame because the Giro in recent years has been much more
> interesting then the other two.
>
> Even my daughter showed a bit of interest because a couple of times
> recently the Giro has gone past the site where she was doing her
> GraveRobbing and she loved the goodies that the Caravan was handing out
>
> (GraveRobber == Archaeological excavator)
>

It's hindsight of course, but it was a mistake for the Vuelta to
put the last stage where a difference could be made so far from
the finish.

F

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Sep 11, 2011, 11:17:48 PM9/11/11
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Is there money in legitimized grave robbing?

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


Davey Crockett

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Sep 11, 2011, 11:54:14 PM9/11/11
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" a écrit profondement:

| Is there money in legitimized grave robbing?

It pays very poorly. Around only 60,000 Euros a year

But then she gets her rent and living expenses plus her car paid by the
university.

She manages the Dig Site and was actually lucky to get the job, mainly
because she was the only one on staff with a European Community
passport.

She's a bit miffed though since she'll never get to be professor so long
as she keeps the job, but will have to stay Dr.

Bob Martin

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Sep 12, 2011, 2:12:29 AM9/12/11
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in 658302 20110912 045414 Davey Crockett <r...@azurservers.com> wrote:
>"Mike Jacoubowsky" a �crit profondement:
>
>| Is there money in legitimized grave robbing?
>
>It pays very poorly. Around only 60,000 Euros a year
>
>But then she gets her rent and living expenses plus her car paid by the
>university.

Sounds very well paid to me.

Davey Crockett

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Sep 12, 2011, 7:17:45 AM9/12/11
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Bob Martin a écrit profondement:

| in 658302 20110912 045414 Davey Crockett <r...@azurservers.com> wrote:
| >"Mike Jacoubowsky" a �crit profondement:
| >
| >| Is there money in legitimized grave robbing?
| >
| >It pays very poorly. Around only 60,000 Euros a year
| >
| >But then she gets her rent and living expenses plus her car paid by the
| >university.
>
| Sounds very well paid to me.

Hmmmm

Davey got two daughterz

When they became 11 years old, Davey sent them away to decent boarding
schools.

The elder daughter became a psychiatrist at the age of 31

The younger one became an archaeologist at the age of 35

Davey has paid all the kids' costs along the way. Tuition at first class
schools, living expenses, travel expenses, pocket money, clothing, cars,
even travel for their friends when their friends didn't got no Roubles,
etc., etc.

The sum total of that is astronomical, mitigated only by what grants,
bursaries, scholarships, and lecturing fees they could generate along
the way. In the interest of modesty Davey will refrain from giving you a
figure for the total cost. Suffice it to say it was astronomical for the
20 and 24 years respectively, but nevertheless not grudgingly, but
willingly paid.

The elder psychiatrist daughter earns roughly Three times what the
younger earns.

That Bob, was the rationale for thinking that 60,000 Euros (Gross before
taxes) is a piss-poor return on investment.

--
Davey Crockett
Flying a Green Flag for the latest victims of the latest agression of
the moribund American Empire.
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Frederick the Great

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Sep 12, 2011, 2:48:56 PM9/12/11
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In article <857h5ef...@azurservers.com>,
Davey Crockett <r...@azurservers.com> wrote:

> Bob Martin a écrit profondement:
>
> | in 658302 20110912 045414 Davey Crockett <r...@azurservers.com> wrote:
> | >"Mike Jacoubowsky" a ï¿∏crit profondement:
A guy at the office, doing quite well, thank you, had a
gift from his dad when he turned 18: a set of luggage. His
brother is doing even better as an anti-trust lawyer (but
he claims that since brother works for the corporations,
that brother is a pro-trust lawyer.) When I turned eighteen
all I wanted was to get on my own; not that I had not been
well taken care of.

--
Old Fritz

Ryan Cousineau

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Sep 12, 2011, 4:43:41 PM9/12/11
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Vuelta was "interesting" because it's very hard to make time on
climbs, and there was hardly any TTing. That's ok: it's a legit
parcours, but it creates a very different kind of race than a typical
Tour, and one where the final time gaps were small.

It may also argue for the return of time bonuses to the Tour.

RicodJour

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Sep 12, 2011, 9:53:21 PM9/12/11
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As long as they don't have time bonuses for the TTT, I'm okay with
that.

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Anton Berlin

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Sep 15, 2011, 8:13:14 PM9/15/11
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The giro was far better this year than the other tours.

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Sep 28, 2011, 11:19:55 PM9/28/11
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> A guy at the office, doing quite well, thank you, had a
> gift from his dad when he turned 18: a set of luggage. His
> brother is doing even better as an anti-trust lawyer (but
> he claims that since brother works for the corporations,
> that brother is a pro-trust lawyer.) When I turned eighteen
> all I wanted was to get on my own; not that I had not been
> well taken care of.
>
> --
> Old Fritz

It never occurred to me that my parents would take care of my school and
whatever else I wanted. I worked all the way through high school, saving
money for college and, of course, buying whatever I needed for racing.
My dad, at one point, apologized to me for the fact that I had to work
while the other guys were out training, because their parents were
supporting them. ??? Looking back on it, yeah, the other juniors did
have an advantage, but I really didn't want it any other way. The
biggest guilt I ever felt was during my two years at UC Santa Cruz, when
I wasn't working during the school year. I couldn't wait to come home
for summer and work. And I wouldn't even consider the idea of spending
more than 4 years at college for a 4 year degree. Once out, I was out on
my own, rented an apartment, got a job at warehouse records (1979 wasn't
the best of economic times) then worked at Heathkit Electronics for a
year until an opportunity to get back into the bicycle business
presented itself.

Now? It's normal to take 6 years for a 4 year degree (sometimes more),
and why leave home when mom & dad are willing to pay for room & board?
It's ironic that a feeling of entitlement seems to have taken hold at
exactly the time when the US is having to seriously deal with global
economic realignment (not in our favor).
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