womens sport in muslim countries

Henry

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Feb 7, 2010, 10:38:19 PM2/7/10

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I should know better, but it is a genuine question.

We were watching some womens bike race, I think it was in Qatar, and
the wife commented that it was fecking hot and why did they all have
their jeyseys zipped (I was wondering too, but not the same reason :)
I made the assumption it was to do with islam and modesty, but of
course have no idea. I have read that in some islamic countries women
have their own sports facilities so that no men get corrupted; so no
beach volleyball then, let alone swimming! Who was that Dutch swimmer
that posed in that white suit....
I can't imagine Saudi allows any womens sport. As for Afghanistan in
the Taleban era I believe it was a capital offence to fly a kite let
alone ride a bicycle.

And. What _is_ this thing with Liz Hatch ?

Davey Crockett

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Feb 8, 2010, 12:44:20 AM2/8/10

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Henry a �crit profondement:

There was a movie came out 10 years or so ago, "Roozi ke zan shodam"
or roughly translated from Farsi as, "The Day I Became a Woman"

Get it, Watch it

There'a a Womens bike race in it

Then you'll see why white men should fast track every raghead piece of
humanoid shit up to meet Allah

Just ask MM, that 16 year old Kurd girl from Turkey.
O�ps, sorry, you can't because she was found buried alive by her father
and grandfather last week ("by her father and grandfather" not referring
to "found" but "buried alive by")

--
Davey Crockett

Kurgan Gringioni

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Feb 8, 2010, 1:21:00 AM2/8/10

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"Henry" <snogfest_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> And. What _is_ this thing with Liz Hatch ?

Dumbass -

She used to date Mexican Low Rider.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

bjwe...@gmail.com

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Feb 8, 2010, 1:32:04 AM2/8/10

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What exactly was the question?

The practice of Islam is very varied, and this is just one
aspect of it, so there are Muslim countries with significant
women athletes (most of the one I can think of are
African/North African runners), and there are ones where
they have no women in international competitions.

> And. What _is_ this thing with Liz Hatch ?

If a Masters Fattie expires while sprinting for a prime
in a 45+ crit, he goes to Heaven and spends eternity
with forty Liz Hatches, or something like that.

Ben

Ryan Cousineau

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Feb 8, 2010, 4:07:01 AM2/8/10

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In article
<ad9e811b-7519-43c0...@k18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Henry <snogfest_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I should know better, but it is a genuine question.
>
> We were watching some womens bike race, I think it was in Qatar, and
> the wife commented that it was fecking hot and why did they all have
> their jeyseys zipped (I was wondering too, but not the same reason :)

It's a dry heat.

> And. What _is_ this thing with Liz Hatch ?

1) She is (among women's cyclists) arguably faster than anyone prettier,
and prettier than anyone faster. This inspires rbr in various ways.

2) Given her late start to serious cycling, she is simultaneously living
the 12k dream and a masters-non-fatty* made good. This inspires rbr in
various other ways.

3) ZOMG! Maxim photo shoot! Side-boobies! Dirty! (No really, she was
covered in dirt for many of the photos.)

That's pretty much it. For rbr, that's enough.

*The rarest kind of masters racer!

--
Ryan Cousineau rcou...@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

raamman

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Feb 8, 2010, 10:35:36 AM2/8/10

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the imbd write up

Plot Summary for
Roozi ke zan shodam (2000) This is the story of women at three stages
of life in Iran. The first part centers on a young girl on her ninth
birthday who is told that she can no longer play with the boys she had
been playing with only the day before because she is now a "woman".
Told from the perspective of a nine year old "woman" who does not feel
like or know what that label refers to, we see how devastatingly this
affects both the girl and the boy with whom she had been friends. The
second part is about a young woman who decides to enter a bicycle race
against her husband's wishes. As first the husband and then increasing
numbers of men from the village ride beside her to convince her to
return home, the race begins to symbolize a freedom she desperately
wants from the limitations which have been placed on her. Finally, the
third part shows us an old woman who has come into some money and is
now free to do what she wants. The way she chooses to use this
freedom, however, makes one wonder just how free she is. Written by
Jonathan Beebe {jrb...@midway.uchicago.edu}

Fred Fredburger

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Feb 8, 2010, 11:29:50 AM2/8/10

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Ryan Cousineau wrote:

> 1) She is (among women's cyclists) arguably faster than anyone prettier,
> and prettier than anyone faster. This inspires rbr in various ways.

You are awfully damned good at this.

Bob Schwartz

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Feb 8, 2010, 11:41:45 AM2/8/10

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Henry wrote:
> And. What _is_ this thing with Liz Hatch ?

Dunno. But filtering and deleting on 'Hatch' helps.

Bob Schwartz

A. Dumas

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Feb 8, 2010, 11:52:58 AM2/8/10

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He is.

Kurgan Gringioni

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Feb 8, 2010, 12:25:59 PM2/8/10

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"Ryan Cousineau" <rcou...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> And. What _is_ this thing with Liz Hatch ?
>
> 1) She is (among women's cyclists) arguably faster than anyone prettier,
> and prettier than anyone faster. This inspires rbr in various ways.

Dumbass -

Rochelle Gilmore, faster and hotter.

GoneBeforeMyTime

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Feb 8, 2010, 1:20:11 PM2/8/10

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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article
> <ad9e811b-7519-43c0...@k18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> Henry <snogfest_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I should know better, but it is a genuine question.
>>
>> We were watching some womens bike race, I think it was in Qatar, and
>> the wife commented that it was fecking hot and why did they all have
>> their jeyseys zipped (I was wondering too, but not the same reason :)
>
> It's a dry heat.
>
>> And. What _is_ this thing with Liz Hatch ?
>
> 1) She is (among women's cyclists) arguably faster than anyone
> prettier, and prettier than anyone faster.

Incorrect.

I can name at least 10 women cuter, prettier and sexier then Liz Hatch who
are women's UCI pros, however you did say arguably!

GoneBeforeMyTime

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Feb 8, 2010, 1:21:42 PM2/8/10

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Oh, morning coffee hasn't kicked in yet. Of course this ten women are also
faster then Hatch!

Scott

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Feb 8, 2010, 2:23:17 PM2/8/10

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On Feb 8, 11:21 am, "GoneBeforeMyTime" <F...@EuroFans.com> wrote:
> GoneBeforeMyTime wrote:
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> >> In article

> >> <ad9e811b-7519-43c0-862f-23578db2a...@k18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

> >> Henry <snogfest_hosebe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I should know better, but it is a genuine question.
>
> >>> We were watching some womens bike race, I think it was in Qatar, and
> >>> the wife commented that it was fecking hot and why did they all have
> >>> their jeyseys zipped (I was wondering too, but not the same reason
> >>> :)
>
> >> It's a dry heat.
>
> >>> And. What _is_ this thing with Liz Hatch ?
>
> >> 1) She is (among women's cyclists) arguably faster than anyone
> >> prettier, and prettier than anyone faster.
>
> > Incorrect.
>
> > I can name at least 10 women cuter, prettier and sexier then Liz
> > Hatch who are women's UCI pros, however you did say arguably!
>
> Oh, morning coffee hasn't kicked in yet. Of course this ten women are also
> faster then Hatch!

define 'faster'

ilan

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Feb 8, 2010, 4:02:35 PM2/8/10

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If I remember correctly, the Islamic Republic of Iran had a women's
team in one of the last Olympic Games in shooting, which allowed them
to wear their modest garb (since this sport doesn't require much
physical exertion).

Otherwise, there have been a number of very successful female athletes
from Islamic countries which do not strictly observe Islamic law. In
particular, Nawal El Moutawakel of Morocco who won the 1984 100m
hurdles was one of the first. There is also Hassiba Boulmerka, a top
middle distance runner of the 1990's from Algeria. There was much
pressure from Islamic fundamentalists due to her wearing skimpy
running attire and she eventually had to move to Europe to train. She
is currently athletes representative for the IOC and had to choose
between London and Paris for 2012, if I recall correctly, she was all
excited to meet Bernard Hinault who was representing the Paris bid.

-ilan

GoneBeforeMyTime

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Feb 8, 2010, 4:40:28 PM2/8/10

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no, but I'll pick top ten based on looks.

After that, I would say these girls are worth consideration, a few domestic
NRC girls in this group..

GoneBeforeMyTime

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Feb 8, 2010, 5:07:35 PM2/8/10

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GoneBeforeMyTime wrote:

On the riders worth consideration, it seems Google images doesn't find
results as well with last name first, so corrected these...

http://www.google.com/images?q=Martina-Patella
http://www.google.com/images?q=Svetlana-BUBNENKOVA
http://www.google.com/images?q=Erika-VILUNAITE
http://www.google.com/images?q=Alona-ANDRUK
http://www.google.com/images?q=Rasa-LELEIVYTE
http://www.google.com/images?q=Kristina-Seley
http://www.google.com/images?q=Giulia-LAZZERINI
http://www.google.com/images?q=Veronica-LEAL

GoneBeforeMyTime

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Feb 8, 2010, 5:29:41 PM2/8/10

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GoneBeforeMyTime wrote:

And of course, it wouldn't be fair to leave out Victoria Pendleton or Hanka
Kupfernagel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uHU9YexN0Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4jJCMQ5vRM

A. Dumas

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Feb 8, 2010, 5:53:38 PM2/8/10

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GoneBeforeMyTime wrote:
> Victoria Pendleton

For me, the only one possibly challenging for
faster-prettier/prettier-faster leader.

raamman

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Feb 8, 2010, 6:34:35 PM2/8/10

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> 10. Emilia Fahlinhttp://www.google.com/images?q=Emilia-Fahlin

> LEAL-Verï¿½nicahttp://www.google.com/images?q=LEAL-Verï¿½nica
> Carla-RYANhttp://www.google.com/images?q=Carla-RYAN
> Andrea-BOSMANhttp://www.google.com/images?q=Andrea-BOSMAN- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

what, no porn stars ?

Scott

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Feb 8, 2010, 6:44:31 PM2/8/10

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If we're talking current riders, perhaps. Let's not forget Marianne
Berglund, if we're open to retired riders.

Kurgan Gringioni

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Feb 8, 2010, 7:10:52 PM2/8/10

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Dumbass -

Why are you leaving out Rochelle Gilmore?

http://bf-one.com/z-1/Renkwartier/Rochelle%20Gilmore/rochelle-gilmore-1-com.jpg

GoneBeforeMyTime

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Feb 8, 2010, 7:32:45 PM2/8/10

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On retired, yes its also worth noting, as you say Berglund, but a few more
here. Catherine Marsal was cute when she was much younger and Van Moorsel
was a glamour girl.

http://www.google.com/images?q=Nicole-Brandli
http://www.google.com/images?q=Odessa-Gunn
http://www.google.com/images?q=Lynn-Gaggioli

In Carl's crowd, Deb Shumway was cute. I speak with a few of these riders on
occasions. Cindy Olavarri, not pictured also is a partner in a bike shop in
Bezerkly.
http://www.procyclingwomen.com/Team-1986-USA.jpg

thecoz11

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Feb 8, 2010, 7:42:06 PM2/8/10

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On Feb 8, 6:10 pm, "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "GoneBeforeMyTime" <F...@EuroFans.com> wrote in message

> http://bf-one.com/z-1/Renkwartier/Rochelle%20Gilmore/rochelle-gilmore...

>
> thanks,
>
> Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

Bubba said that you're fast too Kurgan. But seeing you naked running
from him really turns him on.
Coz

GoneBeforeMyTime

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Feb 8, 2010, 8:15:06 PM2/8/10

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I left Hatch out, but there...
http://www.google.com/images?q=Liz-Hatch

Gilmore is a ten body wise, but her face is not that cute, IMO, Tiff is
cuter.

Gilmore Center..
http://tinyurl.com/ye8vx4f
http://www.tiffanyjane.com.au/content/images/hp%20cycling%20team16%20Peta,%20Rochelle%20and%20Tiffany%20Nov08.jpg

Nobody

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Feb 8, 2010, 8:20:14 PM2/8/10

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On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:07:01 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcou...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>1) She is (among women's cyclists) arguably faster than anyone prettier,
>and prettier than anyone faster. This inspires rbr in various ways.

I think you've nailed it!

Now, if only you could...

Fred Fredburger

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Feb 8, 2010, 10:20:43 PM2/8/10

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You make a good point.

GoneBeforeMyTime

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Feb 8, 2010, 10:36:00 PM2/8/10

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GoneBeforeMyTime wrote:

James Raia makes the case for Erica. I agree on the looks part.

5. A U.S. woman emerging as a global star. Mix the moxie of Missy Giove
(minus the drug charges), the tough-as-nails-but-sweet personality of Alison
Dunlap and the determination of Kristin Armstrong. OK, we'll say it . . .
throw in a little clevage. Ride like hell. A star is born. Erica Allar,
women's cycling needs you.

http://tinyurl.com/y8ohndj
http://www.examiner.com/x-1155-Cycling-Examiner~y2010m1d15-The-2010-season-is-upon-us-A-top10-wish-list-for-the-pro-peloton

Henry

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Feb 8, 2010, 11:15:33 PM2/8/10

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On Feb 9, 1:32 pm, "GoneBeforeMyTime" <F...@EuroFans.com> wrote:
> Scott wrote:
> > On Feb 8, 3:53 pm, "A. Dumas" <alexan...@dumas.fr> wrote:
> >> GoneBeforeMyTime wrote:
> >>> Victoria Pendleton
>
> >> For me, the only one possibly challenging for
> >> faster-prettier/prettier-faster leader.
>
> > If we're talking current riders, perhaps. Let's not forget Marianne
> > Berglund, if we're open to retired riders.
>
> On retired, yes its also worth noting, as you say Berglund, but a few more
> here. Catherine Marsal was cute when she was much younger and Van Moorsel
> was a glamour girl.
>

> http://www.google.com/images?q=Nicole-Brandlihttp://www.google.com/images?q=Odessa-Gunnhttp://www.google.com/images?q=Lynn-Gaggioli

>
> In Carl's crowd, Deb Shumway was cute. I speak with a few of these riders on
> occasions. Cindy Olavarri, not pictured also is a partner in a bike shop in
> Bezerkly.http://www.procyclingwomen.com/Team-1986-USA.jpg

Sarah Ulmer

Henry

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Feb 8, 2010, 11:19:07 PM2/8/10

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I saw someone in a recent series of modern pentathlon (the running,
shooting thing) who had everything covered except her face; she kicked
ars and won.

Fred

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Feb 9, 2010, 12:52:39 AM2/9/10

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> http://tinyurl.com/y8ohndjhttp://www.examiner.com/x-1155-Cycling-Examiner~y2010m1d15-The-2010-s...

Cuter than a new puppy.

GoneBeforeMyTime

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Feb 9, 2010, 1:32:43 AM2/9/10

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Dude... Rushlee!

Ryan Cousineau

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Feb 9, 2010, 11:39:22 PM2/9/10

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In article <k1e1n5hddbvk8sjei...@4ax.com>,
Nobody<nob...@nowhere.net> wrote:

Nah, I'm long off the market. I went to a party with a bunch of
co-workers. Some were frankly shocked that my marriage was a) not
something I'd just made up and b) that my wife was "pretty" (quote).

I'm sure Liz is perfectly nice, though.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcou...@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Ryan Cousineau

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Feb 9, 2010, 11:48:27 PM2/9/10

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In article <4b70416a$0$22936$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl>,
"A. Dumas" <alex...@dumas.fr> wrote:

It's a result of practice. Practicing being good at rbr is so pathetic I
cannot conceive a good analogy for it. The floor is open.

OTOH, a form of self-mortification known as "stationary bike, random
hill program, level 12, 20 minutes" has been going well.

Scott

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Feb 10, 2010, 12:31:49 AM2/10/10

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On Feb 8, 2:07 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 1) She is arguably faster than anyone prettier,

> and prettier than anyone faster. This inspires rbr in various ways.

> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@gmail.comhttp://www.wiredcola.com/

> "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
> "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

Danica Patrick is hotter and faster.

Ryan Cousineau

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Feb 10, 2010, 3:15:15 AM2/10/10

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In article
<3b691820-f550-4fdf...@l26g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Scott <hendric...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 8, 2:07�am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > 1) She is arguably faster than anyone prettier,
> > and prettier than anyone faster. This inspires rbr in various ways.

> Danica Patrick is hotter and faster.

Hasn't Magilla learned you? Road racing is cool, Gerbildromes drool.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcou...@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/

Donald Munro

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Feb 10, 2010, 5:22:46 AM2/10/10

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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>
> It's a result of practice. Practicing being good at rbr is so pathetic I
> cannot conceive a good analogy for it. The floor is open.

Winning the special olympics ?

> OTOH, a form of self-mortification known as "stationary bike, random
> hill program, level 12, 20 minutes" has been going well.

But that mexican guy is keeping the snow away for the non-special
olympics or so I'm told so why the stationary bike ?

Scott

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Feb 10, 2010, 9:21:53 AM2/10/10

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On Feb 10, 1:15 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <3b691820-f550-4fdf-b8b7-1ee6a3d8b...@l26g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,

>
> Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 8, 2:07 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > 1) She is arguably faster than anyone prettier,
> > > and prettier than anyone faster. This inspires rbr in various ways.
> > Danica Patrick is hotter and faster.
>
> Hasn't Magilla learned you? Road racing is cool, Gerbildromes drool.
>
> --

> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@gmail.comhttp://www.wiredcola.com/

> "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
> "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

I never really understood NASCAR until I was once given the
opportunity to attend a race at Talladega. I had a "hot" pass that
allowed me access to just about everywhere (couldn't cross pit road
wall and couldn't go into the garage after the race started, but could
go practically anywhere else). I watched an entire race from within
the pit area of the Coors Light team, chatting w/ the crew, etc...
Hell, I even went to a fish fry the night before the race that was
hosted by the driver and the crew chief, and their wives.

I also had an opportunity to do a half-day class at a NASCAR driving
school, which was cooler than cool.

Made a fan out of me. I still can't sit and watch a race on TV, but I
respect what they do.

GoneBeforeMyTime

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Feb 10, 2010, 2:12:54 PM2/10/10

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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article <k1e1n5hddbvk8sjei...@4ax.com>,
> Nobody<nob...@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:07:01 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcou...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 1) She is (among women's cyclists) arguably faster than anyone
>>> prettier, and prettier than anyone faster.

> I'm sure Liz is perfectly nice, though.

Ryan, Ryan, Ryan....

Case closed..
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/interviews/tiff-white.jpg

William Asher

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Feb 10, 2010, 3:18:27 PM2/10/10

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Ryan Cousineau wrote:

> In article <4b70416a$0$22936$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl>,
> "A. Dumas" <alex...@dumas.fr> wrote:
>
>> Op 08-02-10 17:29, Fred Fredburger wrote:
>> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>> >> 1) She is (among women's cyclists) arguably faster than anyone
>> >> prettier, and prettier than anyone faster. This inspires rbr in
>> >> various ways.
>> >
>> > You are awfully damned good at this.
>>
>> He is.
>
> It's a result of practice. Practicing being good at rbr is so pathetic I
> cannot conceive a good analogy for it. The floor is open.
>
> OTOH, a form of self-mortification known as "stationary bike, random
> hill program, level 12, 20 minutes" has been going well.
>

It's like being really good at wanking. It's a valuable skill, but you
wouldn't go bragging about it in public.

--
Bill Asher

Ryan Cousineau

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Feb 10, 2010, 8:39:21 PM2/10/10

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In article
<8c8b775e-96cc-430b...@g27g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Scott <hendric...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 10, 1:15�am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <3b691820-f550-4fdf-b8b7-1ee6a3d8b...@l26g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > �Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 8, 2:07�am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > 1) She is arguably faster than anyone prettier,
> > > > and prettier than anyone faster. This inspires rbr in various ways.
> > > Danica Patrick is hotter and faster.
> >
> > Hasn't Magilla learned you? Road racing is cool, Gerbildromes drool.

> I never really understood NASCAR until I was once given the

> opportunity to attend a race at Talladega. I had a "hot" pass that
> allowed me access to just about everywhere (couldn't cross pit road
> wall and couldn't go into the garage after the race started, but could
> go practically anywhere else). I watched an entire race from within
> the pit area of the Coors Light team, chatting w/ the crew, etc...
> Hell, I even went to a fish fry the night before the race that was
> hosted by the driver and the crew chief, and their wives.
>
> I also had an opportunity to do a half-day class at a NASCAR driving
> school, which was cooler than cool.
>
> Made a fan out of me. I still can't sit and watch a race on TV, but I
> respect what they do.

I should make it clear that I think NASCAR is pretty cool, but the joke
was too droll for me to pass it up.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcou...@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/

Ryan Cousineau

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Feb 10, 2010, 8:43:34 PM2/10/10

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In article <7a6dndAlHfmkmO7W...@sti.net>,
"GoneBeforeMyTime" <Fa...@EuroFans.com> wrote:

The Palmares are there, but that photo conceals more than it reveals.
And now I sound creepy.

Howard Kveck

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Feb 10, 2010, 9:03:45 PM2/10/10

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In article <rcousine-D79926.17433210022010@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>,
Ryan Cousineau <rcou...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <7a6dndAlHfmkmO7W...@sti.net>,
> "GoneBeforeMyTime" <Fa...@EuroFans.com> wrote:
>
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > > In article <k1e1n5hddbvk8sjei...@4ax.com>,
> > > Nobody<nob...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:07:01 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcou...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> 1) She is (among women's cyclists) arguably faster than anyone
> > >>> prettier, and prettier than anyone faster.
> >
> > > I'm sure Liz is perfectly nice, though.
> >
> > Ryan, Ryan, Ryan....
> >
> > Case closed..
> > http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/interviews/tiff-white.jpg
>
> The Palmares are there, but that photo conceals more than it reveals.
> And now I sound creepy.

"Now"?????

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tanx,
Howard

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It's a bored game

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Ryan Cousineau

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Feb 11, 2010, 2:33:48 AM2/11/10

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In article <YOURhoward-163E8...@news.giganews.com>,
Howard Kveck <YOURh...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:

Before, I tried to put some abstracted distance between my analysis and
my obsession. Maybe I failed.

But getting Bruce's top-10 out of it was worthwhile.

GoneBeforeMyTime

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Feb 11, 2010, 1:25:02 PM2/11/10

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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article <7a6dndAlHfmkmO7W...@sti.net>,
> "GoneBeforeMyTime" <Fa...@EuroFans.com> wrote:
>
>> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>>> In article <k1e1n5hddbvk8sjei...@4ax.com>,
>>> Nobody<nob...@nowhere.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:07:01 GMT, Ryan Cousineau
>>>> <rcou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1) She is (among women's cyclists) arguably faster than anyone
>>>>> prettier, and prettier than anyone faster.
>>
>>> I'm sure Liz is perfectly nice, though.
>>
>> Ryan, Ryan, Ryan....
>>
>> Case closed..
>> http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/interviews/tiff-white.jpg
>
> The Palmares are there, but that photo conceals more than it reveals.
> And now I sound creepy.

I'll admit that's more makeup then I can remember her ever wearing, but she
doesn't need it. She's a natural good looking kid and doesn't need it like
some women pros. I have seen team shots like the Highroad presentation in
the pre-season where after makeup, I couldn't recognize some riders and had
to go match the names with the numbers or positions in the team presentation
photo, and then marvel at how totally different some girls look with makeup,
but Tiff doesn't need any.