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Spanish court overturns Heras' suspension - the courts are candy-ass

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Rick Burger

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Jun 24, 2011, 9:51:03 AM6/24/11
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WTF! Are you serious?! The man was found guilty,and yet 5 years later
is now good to go? So Lance does have a chance to save face. Next,
Oscar Sevilla and Team Kelme will be considered a clean.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/spanish-court-overturns-heras-suspension

--D-y

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Jun 24, 2011, 11:02:46 AM6/24/11
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Sounds like there was an appeal and a reversal of sorts.

Yes, Lance Armstrong might escape the death penalty. Tough toenails
for the haters.

Sevilla and Kelme were probably just doing like everyone else, or most
everyone else. We'll never know the truth.

Which of your rights do you want to give up when the cops, who knew
you were doing *something* wrong, come for you?
--D-y

ilan

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Jun 24, 2011, 11:08:35 AM6/24/11
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Finally, the courts are deciding that the laboratories should be held
accountable to scientific standards. Next, I would hope that they
would overturn Mayo and Valverde.

That also sends a clear signal to the Armstrong investigators, in case
they are considering using the tainted 1999 AFLD samples.

-ilan

Victor Kan

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Jun 24, 2011, 3:38:40 PM6/24/11
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On Jun 24, 11:08 am, ilan <ilan...@gmail.com> wrote:
...

> That also sends a clear signal to the Armstrong investigators, in case
> they are considering using the tainted 1999 AFLD samples.

So even in retirement, some of Lance's [ex-]domestiques help him
through difficult terrain?

Simply Fred

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Jun 24, 2011, 3:53:45 PM6/24/11
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Rick Burger wrote:
>> WTF! Are you serious?! The man was found guilty,and yet 5 years later
>> is now good to go?
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/spanish-court-overturns-heras-suspension

ilan wrote:
> Finally, the courts are deciding that the laboratories should be held
> accountable to scientific standards. Next, I would hope that they
> would overturn Mayo and Valverde.

Its about time somebody took WADA/IOC etc to a real court over the
stupid biological passport shit instead of accepting the kangaroo CAS
verdicts.

MagillaGorilla

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Jun 25, 2011, 10:51:39 PM6/25/11
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ilan wrote:

The UCI doesn't have to honor this decision. Heras signed an agreement to
not contest any doping sanction to a court of law and to have it handled
through WADA. Apparently the Spanish judges are illiterate.

Magilla

DirtRoadie

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Jun 29, 2011, 8:25:38 PM6/29/11
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I think you've got it backwards. Typically a Court trumps a private
organization. Even if the judges are illiterate.

DR

ilan

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Jun 29, 2011, 8:58:01 PM6/29/11
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But au contraire, the Spanish judges realize that you can't sign away
your rights. The UCI and WADA conditions are coercion since the rides
have no choice but to accept terms if they want to race. This was
already been recognized by teh legal rejection of the ridiculous rule
that required paying back the year's salary for a doping offence.

-ilan

--D-y

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Jun 29, 2011, 7:38:00 PM6/29/11
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Was that one of those "condition of employment agreements" people are
forced to sign to so they can have their rights taken away from them?
Back when "we knew they were doping" but didn't have the tests to
prove it-- but made rules we couldn't enforce anyhow?
--D-y

Frederick the Great

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Jun 30, 2011, 2:10:38 AM6/30/11
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<6a7d5e63-a4a9-4839...@j31g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
DirtRoadie <DirtR...@aol.com> wrote:

> On Jun 25, 8:51 pm, MagillaGorilla <magi...@sandiegozoo.com> wrote:
> > ilan wrote:
> > > On Jun 24, 3:51 pm, Rick Burger <rickburge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > WTF! Are you serious?! The man was found guilty,and yet 5 years later
> > > > is now good to go? So Lance does have a chance to save face. Next,
> > > > Oscar Sevilla and Team Kelme will be considered a clean.
> >
> > > >http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/spanish-court-overturns-heras-suspension
> >
> > > Finally, the courts are deciding that the laboratories should be held
> > > accountable to scientific standards. Next, I would hope that they
> > > would overturn Mayo and Valverde.
> >
> > > That also sends a clear signal to the Armstrong investigators, in case
> > > they are considering using the tainted 1999 AFLD samples.
> >

> > The UCI doesn't have to honor this decision.   Heras signed an agreement to
> > not contest any doping sanction to a court of law and to have it handled
> > through WADA.  Apparently the Spanish judges are illiterate.
>
> I think you've got it backwards. Typically a Court trumps a private
> organization. Even if the judges are illiterate.

Oooh! That stings.

--
Old Fritz

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