What about Idurain?
FAT
mentioned when it comes to doping?
Anton Berlin
Everyone knows it's a fraud.
RicodJour
>
> Average speeds at the TDF shot up during is reign. How come he never gets
> mentioned when it comes to doping?
Because it's well known that everything evil with cycling started with
Lance. Well, except for the decades of bad stuff that happened before
him, during his reign that he had nothing to do with, and the stuff
that's going on now. Other than that it's all his fault and he should
be the one made to pay. I thought that was obvious.
R
RicodJour
>
> For the same reason you never hear anything about Jesus anymore.
> Everyone knows it's a fraud.
You know what the biggest fraud is? You. You are a liar and a
hypocrite, just nobody cares enough to go after you. You took drugs,
had a girlfriend who stole drugs from her hospital, etc., etc. You
failed on innumerable morality tests, yet you pontificate about
cleanliness in sport. Give me a fookin' break already!
I have an idea - why don't you run for office in the US? Let them
start digging in your closet and we'll see what turns up. That should
be good for a few laughs. Glass houses and all that.
I'm saying that with love and affection, so no hard feelings. We're
good, right? :)~
R
ilan
> Average speeds at the TDF shot up during is reign. How come he never gets
> mentioned when it comes to doping?
It's because in the Indurain years, the Tour only went
counterclockwise around France, so speeds went up due to Coriolis
effect in the Northern hemisphere which is also counterclockwise and
so was favorable to the riders.
-ilan
FAT
thinking of the Tour Down Under.
"ilan" wrote in message
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William Fred
> The coriolis effect is clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere. You must
> be thinking of the Tour Down Under.
>
The direction of the spin induced by the Coriolis effect in either
hemisphere is dependent on whether the flow divergence is positive or
negative (or high pressure center or low pressure center, if you think
strictly in meteorological terms). (I think. Mostly I just make fun of
physical oceanographers, I don't really pay any attention to the things
they talk about.) People say the tour sucks so it must be a huge low
pressure sytem but I think it's so high pressure everyone is taking drugs
to cope. It isn't clear to me whether it should clockwise or
counterclockwise.
--
Bill Fred
Anton Berlin
LOL - I have bad morals because a girlfriend stole drugs from a
hospital ?
Looks like the plainest looking girl in the world is now withholding
sex from Ryan
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rcousine/3822873172/in/set-7215762605118...
Simply Fred
> Mostly I just make fun of
> physical oceanographers, I don't really pay any attention to the things
> they talk about.)
Don't you get to nail the hot ones ?
Simply Fred
> Average speeds at the TDF shot up during is reign. How come he never
> gets mentioned when it comes to doping?
He had lots of help from his teammates Ulrich, Salvodelli and Deluca.
FAT
hemisphere is dependent on whether the flow divergence is positive or
negative
No it doesn't.
William Fred
Don't you just *hate* being wrong?
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/earth/coriolis.html
--
Bill Fred
Correctly quoting usenet posts is a dying art.
William Fred
news:3vrsc8-...@donaldm.homeip.net:
You mean like this:
http://www.apl.washington.edu/projects/apl-uw_visd/VISDx/Kiosk/flash/imag
es/portraits_large/dasaro_eric.jpg
Sadly no. I'm lucky if I can garner enough respect from physical
oceanographers to have them simply ignore me.
--
Bill Fred
Phil H
It's due to differential rotational speed of the Earth (smaller
rotational radius) as an object moves away from the equator.
Noticeable when firing ballistics over a distance of a few miles.
Phil H
FAT
in which a mass moves. Your link considers other forces impacting weather,
proving the point. If that wasn't true how can you turn left?
"William Fred" wrote in message
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William Fred
FAT, dude, read the statement I made. Carefully. Note how I said
"induced by the Coriolis effect?" You said "No it doesn't."
I realize this is usenet, and facts and truth are irrelevant and the only
purpose in replying is to save face or obfuscate obviously erroneous
contentions, but do you really think "lawyering over" your idiocy is
going to make me believe what I said is wrong?
I'm thinking you've turned left one too many times into a brick wall
trying to prove to yourself that the Coriolis effect is irrelevant in
describing the motion of objects on a rotating sphere.
--
Bill Fred
This is where I diverge.
FAT
"William Fred" wrote in message
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Frederick the Great
wrote:
> Average speeds at the TDF shot up during is reign. How come he never gets
> mentioned when it comes to doping?
Because he never doped. People only started to dope
so they could defeat Indurain. In a way he is responsible
for everybody doping.
--
Old Fritz
Frederick the Great
William Fred <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Another beautiful theory shot to hell.
--
Old Fritz
Fredmaster of Brainerd
For a particle or discrete object you are correct,
and FAT is sort of correct if he would explain what
he is thinking (which is sort of like not being correct
at all).
For fluid flow, like the dynamics of a doping investigation
circling the drain, Bill Fred is correct.
http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/ritter/geog101/textbook/circulation/cyclones_and_anticyclones.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticyclone
Thanks,
Fredmaster Ben
Simply Fred
>> The direction of the spin induced by the Coriolis effect in either
>> hemisphere is dependent on whether the flow divergence is positive or
>> negative
FAT wrote:
>> No it doesn't.
Phil H wrote:
> It's due to differential rotational speed of the Earth (smaller
> rotational radius) as an object moves away from the equator.
> Noticeable when firing ballistics over a distance of a few miles.
Perhaps you could propose an experiment for William Fred involving
firing Lafferty over a distance of a few miles to observe the effect of
Coriolis force on a mass of hot air. That way William Fred is aroused
from his state of zenpression by all the hot physical oceanographers
throwing themselves at him, you get the Nobel peace prize and Plano gets
hit by a tornado.
FAT
F (coriolis) = –2 * m * v (angular) * v (mass in a rotating system)
"Fredmaster of Brainerd" wrote in message
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William Fred
>
> Perhaps you could propose an experiment for William Fred involving
> firing Lafferty over a distance of a few miles to observe the effect
> of Coriolis force on a mass of hot air. That way William Fred is
> aroused from his state of zenpression by all the hot physical
> oceanographers throwing themselves at him, you get the Nobel peace
> prize and Plano gets hit by a tornado.
You can't just fire Lafferty out of a cannon. There are all sorts of
laws governing how you dispose of toxic waste and none of them say it is
legal to fire it out of a cannon, even if it is the name of scientific
research.
--
Bill Fred
Uncle Dave
> Average speeds at the TDF shot up during is reign. How come he never gets
> mentioned when it comes to doping?
I always mention him. He went from domestique to superstar in one
season then slid to the back of the peloton just as quickly as soon as
an EPOS test that (kind of) worked came along. He had extra big lungs
they said. Yeah, right...
BTW, he now plays rugby for Scotland. Not a lot of people know that -
http://tinyurl.com/ItsOorMiggy
F*UD
Uncle Dave
Well he is a smug bastard, you have to admit...
UD
Jimmy July
Jesus Christ. This ... is America. In America we have a Constitution
that prevents the gubmint from interfering in our choice and use of
firearms. Science has nothing to do with this. Those good, Christian
Founding Fathers protected our right to fire Laffertys out of cannons
long ago.
If I want to fire Lafferty out a cannon, I'll fire god damned Lafferty
out a god damned cannon. You, or anyone else, tries to stop me and I'll
see your ass in court! The Supreme Court and God are on my side, and you
can just burn in HELL with your precious science!
Jimmy July
I've recommended that Fabio give you a bonus for this. Hope you see it soon.
Scott
> On 6/18/2011 2:04 PM, William Fred wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
You can even shoot a Lafferty into a fan...
Jimmy July
It's MY god-damned right as a citizen of these United States of America!
William Fred
news:5ca73e57-be0e-4dd8...@k6g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
>
> You can even shoot a Lafferty into a fan...
They did that on Mythbusters. It was the "shit hitting the fan" episode.
Good stuff.
--
Bill Fred
Fredmaster of Brainerd
> This is what I'm thinking:
>
> F (coriolis) = –2 * m * v (angular) * v (mass in a rotating system)
That's a formula, not a thought process. Also
it needs a cross product.
The original statement by Bill Fred to which you said
"No it doesn't" was about "the direction of the spin induced
by the Coriolis effect." Spin, not motion of a ballistic
particle - those don't spin (at least, not due to the
Coriolis effect). Atmospheric and oceanic circulations
do spin, and the direction is governed by the Coriolis
effect and the pressure differential - the circulation
spins so that the pressure differential is nearly
balanced by the Coriolis force.
The helpful links provided explain this.
I wouldn't have piped up if you'd just said something
about the effect on artillery shells. But saying
people are wrong, when they are not wrong, is
Lafferty's job, and I need to defend the only thing
he has to live for. Well, other than chess.
Fredmaster Ben
> "Fredmaster of Brainerd" wrote in message
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>
> On Jun 17, 2:28 pm, Phil H
> wrote:
Simply Fred
> I've recommended that Fabio give you a bonus for this. Hope you see it
> soon.
My asshat application is still in the USPS mail.
Simply Fred
> You can't just fire Lafferty out of a cannon. There are all sorts of
> laws governing how you dispose of toxic waste and none of them say it is
> legal to fire it out of a cannon, even if it is the name of scientific
> research.
I can assure you Lafferty was EPA certified during the Bush era.
FAT
When the statement: "The direction of the spin induced by the Coriolis
effect in either
hemisphere is dependent on whether the flow divergence is positive or
negative" Said another way, the Coriolis effect is dependent on flow
divergence. Its not.
To restate what you said: the direction of spin is dependent on the
Coriolis effect and pressure differential. You are correct!! You win the
prize.
The combined forces determine the direction of spin of atmospheric and
oceanic circulations. Only one of which is the Coriolis effect.
"Fredmaster of Brainerd" wrote in message
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On Saturday, June 18, 2011 2:32:35 AM UTC-7, FAT wrote:
> This is what I'm thinking:
>
> F (coriolis) = �2 * m * v (angular) * v (mass in a rotating system)
Scott
> Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote innews:5ca73e57-be0e-4dd8...@k6g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > You can even shoot a Lafferty into a fan...
>
> They did that on Mythbusters. It was the "shit hitting the fan" episode.
> Good stuff.
>
> --
> Bill Fred
the joke isn't as funny if you try to explain it. The smart folks got
it already...
Scott
> Again, you make my point.
>
> When the statement: "The direction of the spin induced by the Coriolis
> effect in either
> hemisphere is dependent on whether the flow divergence is positive or
> negative"
I thought we were talking about political spin?
Simply Fred
>> Again, you make my point.
Scott wrote:
> I thought we were talking about political spin?
Jimmy July
I thought we were watching FAT spin. A little disgusting, when it's
phrased that way.
Steve Freides
He won the TdF seven consecutives times - it's cool with me to be smug
about that. It's also cool with me that his driven personality type is
consistent with his performance - no way, if I had his talent, that I
could have done what he did. I'm not cut out for that sort of singular
focus in life.
You're entitled to your opinion, of course, I'm just saying that his
attitude doesn't bother me - it seems consistent with the kind of person
he's always been, and with his achievements in life. That he might not
make the best drinking buddy is, well, what it is.
-S-
Fredmaster of Brainerd
> Again, you make my point.
>
> When the statement: "The direction of the spin induced by the Coriolis
> effect in either
> hemisphere is dependent on whether the flow divergence is positive or
> negative" Said another way, the Coriolis effect is dependent on flow
> divergence. Its not.
>
> To restate what you said: the direction of spin is dependent on the
> Coriolis effect and pressure differential. You are correct!! You win the
> prize.
>
> The combined forces determine the direction of spin of atmospheric and
> oceanic circulations. Only one of which is the Coriolis effect.
Bill Fred said "the direction of the spin induced by the Coriolis
effect" and you jumped on him. He didn't say the direction of
the Coriolis force vector. If he had said the direction of the force
vector, he would have been wrong and you right. But, not so.
I think we have taken this discussion about as far
as it can go.
Fredmaster Ben
> "Fredmaster of Brainerd" wrote in messagenews:01cd3779-be55-47bd...@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com...
>
> On Saturday, June 18, 2011 2:32:35 AM UTC-7, FAT wrote:
> > This is what I'm thinking:
>
> > F (coriolis) = –2 * m * v (angular) * v (mass in a rotating system)
> >http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/ritter/geog101/textbook/circulation/c...
Simply Fred
> I think we have taken this discussion about as far
> as it can go.
Try cross posting it to rbt to prove how wrong you can be.
RicodJour
Geek fight! Geek fight!
Can't you just call each other dumbasses and move on? We have other
important non-issues to discuss. ;)
R
William Fred
news:e28f985a-ead4-4fc4...@y19g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
> I think we have taken this discussion about as far
> as it can go.
I figured that out after the second exchange.
--
Bill Fred
William Fred
news:52fa7ead-ce76-475f...@s9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
> On Jun 18, 7:24�pm, William Fred <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Scott <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote
>> innews:5ca73e57-be0e-4dd8-aaa8-
> 6d0894...@k6g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > You can even shoot a Lafferty into a fan...
>>
>> They did that on Mythbusters. �It was the "shit hitting the fan"
>> episod
> e. �
>> Good stuff.
>>
>> --
>> Bill Fred
>
> the joke isn't as funny if you try to explain it. The smart folks got
> it already...
>
I wasn't explaining the joke, just making it easier to find the segment
on youtube.
--
Bill Fred
Fredmaster of Brainerd
> Fredmaster of Brainerd <bjwei...@gmail.com> wrote innews:e28f985a-ead4-4fc4...@y19g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > I think we have taken this discussion about as far
> > as it can go.
>
> I figured that out after the second exchange.
And that's why you command the respect of legions
of hot physical oceanographers, and I'm just an
academic cubical monkey.
Fredmaster Ben
William Fred
> And that's why you command the respect of legions
> of hot physical oceanographers, and I'm just an
> academic cubical monkey.
If by "legions" you mean "n=<1" and we define "hot" to mean "angry at me
for being disrespectful and annoying" then I agree with you. I would
also like to point out that even though I have my own office and not a
cubicle, the chair they gave me is really sucky, my desk can only be
arranged so that my monitor can be see from the hallway, and my office
door has a huge glass panel in it so it feels like a giant fishbowl. So
it's not all skittles and ice cream, although I'm not sure what skittles
are exactly, or even if I would like them.
--
Bill Fred
Simply Fred
> So it's not all skittles and ice cream, although I'm not sure what skittles
> are exactly, or even if I would like them.
William Fred
205.tricom.co.za:
> <http://mixthatdrink.com/skittles-vodka-tutorial/>
>
I'm pretty sure I could get that process simplified by using a soxhlet
extractor.
--
Bill Fred
Jimmy July
That looks like something an 18 year old would drink.
RicodJour
I think that's the idea.
R
Jimmy July
And when I was 18, it was LEGAL!