How could Lance Armstrong Possibly have been doping?
Phil
Classic races in Colorado many years ago and semi
following the TDF I am a recreational cyclist. It seems to me that a
lot of people here are positive that the only way that
Lance won the TDF was by doping. I sort of wonder how this could be
possible. I mean, as a 7 time winner of the TDF,
he must have been one of the most tested athletes on the tour yet
nothing ever showed up..So why do you people insist that
the only way Lance could have won the tour was by doping....Seems to
me they would have caught it in the testing.
Anton Berlin
such a concise and clear posting outlining all of the facts.
Thank you for your contribution.
DA74
You're right Anton. Jesus Christ we certainly have been off on a
tangent here. I guess our work is done. Hey Chang, lock the door
behind you and hey, don't forget to untie Lafferty when you pull him
out of the closet - and I'd probably duck when you take the tape off
his mouth. He's gonna be pissed.
raamman
They are making assumptions about Lance and his competition. There is
a statistical aberation in Lances TdF victories compared to previous
tours that circumstantually implicate Lance in an "unnatural" feat-
however there are numerous factors that may account for it; training,
technology, planning, the shrinking route distance and variation in
profile etc. His physiology changed considerably as a result of his
chemotherapy, he lost much of his upper body mass eg he used to weight
train in the off season to enhance his sprinting capabilty, however
when he came back he disregarded that upper body musculature so while
he went back to weighing the same the muscle mass was redistributed
elsewhere and he was noticiably much leaner in appearance than before
he got cancer.
Unfortunately at the time of his tour wins there was considerable
doping scandals that rocked individuals and teams- primarily caught
were those who had won certain stages and were then tested as a matter
of course- the implication was- the dopers win.Many of Lances former
teammates were caught- thus a guilt by association connection was made
by the press and public.There were rumours that were seized by cycling
journalists and stories published that painted a less savory aspect to
Lance. The circumstances, statistics and hearsay cannot prove that
Lance doped; however they do provide a strong indication that he might
have. If you are familiar in having been in an awkward situation were
things may or may not have been as they might have appeared to others
at the time then perhaps you might understand the quandary that will
exist between what people think and the truth of a situation.
Personally, do I think it is possible that he raced and won clean ,
yes I do: however I am not blind to the circumstances that suggest
otherwise and agree that there is a strong possibility that he did
indeed dope one way or another to achieve his wins.It is also possible
that criminal activity had a hand in those wins; perhaps by bribery of
labs and officials. However, possibilities are not certainties.
It is unfortunate that in this age of denial, the only thruth we are
trained to believe is the confession of guilt. Beyond that, who is to
know and who is to say ?
Betty Munro
Summer has come early this year. Proof of global warming on rbr.
Steve Freides
> It seems to me that a
> lot of people here are positive that the only way that
> Lance won the TDF was by doping.
Define "a lot" - I'd say most people here don't know, realize they don't
know, and also realize they will likely never know.
I mean, s#$%, if I don't know what my next door neighbor puts in his
coffee in the morning, how should I know what some professional bike
racer half way across the world does?
-S-
Anton Berlin
Great point Steve - just like how does Sarah Palin know if Russia is a
danger until she sees Putin peeking over her fence?
I guess one could read all the newspapers or the interwebs but it
seems like a silly idea to get informations from others when one can
create their own reality in their own head with their own thoughts.
Betty Munro
> Great point Steve - just like how does Sarah Palin know if Russia is a
> danger until she sees Putin peeking over her fence?
Putin pokin Palin does alliterate nicely.
Steve Freides
Putin pokin' Palin pleases participants preferring pedalling to
perambulation
-S-
cur...@the-md-russells.org
wrote:
Pesonally, I see this as turning into one of the more nauseating
threads in recent history that doesn't include BL. Alliteration may
excuse a lot, but mental pictures like this are not a way to start a
work week.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
ronaldo_jeremiah
Palin illiterates just fine all by herself.
-rj
Betty Munro
>>>> Great point Steve - just like how does Sarah Palin know if Russia is
>>>> a danger until she sees Putin peeking over her fence?
Betty Munro wrote:
>>> Putin pokin Palin does alliterate nicely.
Steve Freides wrote:
>> Putin pokin' Palin pleases participants preferring pedalling to
>> perambulation
cur...@the-md-russells.org wrote:
> Pesonally, I see this as turning into one of the more nauseating
> threads in recent history that doesn't include BL. Alliteration may
> excuse a lot, but mental pictures like this are not a way to start a
> work week.
Perhaps I should have said assonates.
Steve Freides
Twoo, dat.
-S-
Frederick the Great
"Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com> wrote:
What matters is what he puts in his dog's coffee.
I _know_ my neighbor's dog is tweaking. Won't shut up.
At least his bark is worse than his bite.
--
Old Fritz