What exactly is a Fred?
HajajŽ
What is more Fredly: to use a particular product because
'that's what the Pros use', or because that's what your
sponsored team gave you?
HajajŽ
ha...@worldonline.dk
Cause of death:
Having been alive for 98 years
Wade Summers
You've got it wrong. A Fred is more of a bike nerd. Someone who rides all
decked out in pro garb is
a ' poser '.
Its hard to describe a Fred. You just know 'em when you see 'em.
Wade
HajajŽ wrote in message ...
John Judy
"HajajŽ" <ha...@worldonline.dk> wrote in message
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Derek
sordid mess. . . .
http://members.aol.com/MitsuAvaco/muni_sc.htm
Cheers,
Derek
Tom Biery
a “bike nerd”. Over this past year I bike commuted 30 miles over two small
mountains each way to work. Most of my marshmallow, tv watchin, office
mates thought I was a frickin “bike nerd”. And I had motorists routinely
call yell all kinds of demeaning things out their windows at me. So be it
for those that are not bike riders we’ll just say they are clueless! But I’
m not into calling any bike rider (or unicycle for that matter) a Fred.
Fred, nothing personal Wade.
warren
<de...@sonic.net> wrote:
> Here they are - beards, kneesocks, tee shirts, silly grins. The whole
> sordid mess. . . .
Underwear under cycling shorts, chainring grease on calf, Skid-Lid
helmet, still subscribing to Bicycling Magazine for the objective
equipment reviews...
Tom Biery
rollers wasn't enough of an endorphin dose so I'm on my way to the weight
room, see ya later FREDs'
John Hansen
bike before.....or would that be an idiot......or better yet SsotM
John Hansen Sarasota Fl.
Jhans...@aol.com
Track Crash
>gear
>bike before.....or would that be an idiot......or better yet SsotM
ROTFLMFAO!
Hansen #1, you may win PoTM this month for that one!
Scott
-- Scott Patton
-- Colorado Springs, CO
-- http://www.dietchoke.com
-- Specializing in Track Crash Rehabilitation
Ken Papai
"warren" <war...@usvh.com> wrote in message
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These maroons are not only Super Freds but witless idiots, witness:
"John, Nathan and Geoffrey taking a break before hitting the difficult part
of the trail. Geoffrey is manufacturing his own line of mountain unicycles
under the "Telford" brand. He let me ride his unicycle for a while and it
was a joy to ride. I currently use a Schwinn unicycle for both my street
riding in San Francisco and my occasional ride in the mountains, but after
riding the Telford; I can attest that mountain unicycling is like most other
things in this life... that the right tool makes all the difference in the
world! "
Gawd what bullshit!! What tawdrum. What 4-20 knee-sock cluelessness.
Kirby Krieger
"first met them face to face while attending the "Muni" (mountain unicycle)
weedend at Northstar Tahoe."
"Derek" <de...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Tim Noble
In article <elu04ts5o4o3a7lle...@4ax.com>,
Sent via Deja.com
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John Verheul
You guys have it all wrong. These guys are participating in an entirely
different activity than most of us do, who are you to say what's right
for a mountain unicyclist?
Fredliness is doing stupid stuff, doing things wrong when you should
know better. The guy wearing tights and a short-sleeved jersey to train
when it's 80 and sunny out is a fred, as is the guy training in shorts
when it's 50 out. The guy constantly going too hard on easy days is a
fred, as is the guy who always hammers the first hour of a 5-hour group
training ride then quits early. Guys who have raced at Bear Mt. before
yet still manage to stack it in the 180-degree hairpin at the base of
the climb are freds. Guys who use horizontal dropouts then don't
tighten their skewers and subsequently pull their wheels in a race are
freds.
You can suck, and yet not be a fred. Conversely, you can be good but
still be a fred. We all do stupid shit from time to time, but the guys
who just continue to do it when they ought to know better (see examples
above) are freds.
Chainring marks on the leg are fredly if you've been riding more than a
few times because it's not that hard to avoid. Using heavy $900 carbon
wheels to ride hilly double-centuries is fredly because there's no
benefit to them, yet they are heavier and cost more than 3x what
regular wheels are. Not being prepared for a group ride (no spare, no
pump, inadequate clothes, squeaky bike) is fredly because you're
disrespecting your training mates. Showing up late for group rides is
fredly, as is showing up late when traveling to races with others.
Winning the bunch sprint in a TTT is fredly (don't laugh, I had a
teammate who was undefeated in TTT sprints).
Calling new riders freds is fredly because you need to explain to them
what they are doing wrong (if anything) before you can criticize them
for not knowing better. Calling cyclists who do things differently (but
not stupid for them maybe) freds is fredly.
"Weed" is a term I haven't heard in a long time. It's really an elitist
term, used by the few guys who have legs, referring to packfill that
has no legs. The guys who get results all the time, who attack, who
make the race are not weeds. The rest of the pack is. It's like when
someone called Adam a "softie" earlier this year because Adam doesn't
go to every race with a vertical wall in it. When a strong rider starts
using the term "weed", it means they are really frustrated that they're
not strong/fast enough to get away from a pack, so they have to resort
to verbal abuse - like there's some kind of rule that says you can't
sit in and follow wheels.
I hope this clears things up.
John Verheul
rbr fred (because I keep trying to explain stuff when I ought to know
better)
Andrew Albright
> make the race are not weeds. The rest of the pack is. It's like when
> someone called Adam a "softie" earlier this year because Adam doesn't
> go to every race with a vertical wall in it.
A little credit please. I called Adam a 'softie', I even named a thread
after him. Although, I will go on record as saying I have never used the
term 'weed', nor have I smoked it, 'weed' that is.
> When a strong rider starts
> using the term "weed", it means they are really frustrated that they're
> not strong/fast enough to get away from a pack, so they have to resort
> to verbal abuse - like there's some kind of rule that says you can't
> sit in and follow wheels.
Or, like Carl Sunnykiss, just jam on your brakes.
Andrew Vernon Albright
rob palachick
race? is he a fred?
John Verheul <John.an...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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John Verheul
"rob palachick" <robpal...@drexel.edu> wrote:
> what about someone who wears a darth vader aero TT helmet in a mass
start
> race? is he a fred?
He might be, but the only people who would be able to call him that
would be the people who finish ahead of him in that race.
HajajŽ
HajajŽ
Derek
admire thier ability to do what I could never do in my balance challenged
condition. My previous post was an attempt at off the wall humor not to be
taken seriously although some folks obviously did. I apologise to any
offended mountain unicyclist reading these posts and anyone else who thought
I was being malicious to unicyclists. I agree with John V.'s comments in
general.
Happy holidays!
Derek
.John V. posted along with a detailed treatise on "Fredliness":
(snip)
> You guys have it all wrong. These guys are participating in an entirely
> different activity than most of us do, who are you to say what's right
> for a mountain unicyclist?
(unsnip)
rob palachick
classic?
John Verheul <John.an...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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John Verheul
"rob palachick" <robpal...@drexel.edu> wrote:
> do i have to remind you of the list of past winners of that springtime
> classic?
Do I have to remind you what team of freds led out the guy wearing
the "Darth Vader Aero Helmet"? What fred team leads out someone on
another team then can't even get a place themselves? That's a great
case study in fredliness!
And the "Vader Helmet" wearer wasn't there the year you won, but he was
there doing the leadout in 1998 when his team took 2nd & 3rd (after
getting 1st & 2nd in the 30+) and your team took shit.
Why do you gotta push this Rob? You'd have been better off with the
camelbak or attacking-from-the-gun angles.
BTW, is that race still your only career win?
rob palachick
John Verheul <John.an...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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a&b
routinely ate, at mx and hare scrambles. Nobody said much about 'em after
he typically lapped most of the field.
bill g
John Verheul wrote:
> In article <3a425215$1...@xavier.noc.drexel.edu>,
> "rob palachick" <robpal...@drexel.edu> wrote:
> > what about someone who wears a darth vader aero TT helmet in a mass
> start
> > race? is he a fred?
>
> He might be, but the only people who would be able to call him that
> would be the people who finish ahead of him in that race.
>
--
"My parents retired to Florida and all I got was this dumb president"
VoiD
> In article <3a426cfa$1...@xavier.noc.drexel.edu>,
> "rob palachick" <robpal...@drexel.edu> wrote:
> > do i have to remind you of the list of past winners of that springtime
> > classic?
>
> Do I have to remind you what team of freds led out the guy wearing
> the "Darth Vader Aero Helmet"? What fred team leads out someone on
> another team then can't even get a place themselves? That's a great
> case study in fredliness!
>
Waving your dicks in the rbr newsgroup is fredly behaviour. Put em back
guys, it's cold out.
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Jon Isaacs
>Thanks, John. That was most enlightening.
>
I second that, maybe John's post should be added to the FAQ.
Jon Isaacs
cbrya...@my-deja.com
what about the guy that shows up to a hilly ride on a miguel
indurainesque blade tt bike only to pull over halfway through the ride
(after missing several climbs) to reach into his jersey pocket for his
pack of cigs?
In article <91the3$hd5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
tom_k...@my-deja.com
John Verheul <John.an...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
> In article <Puj06.18440
> "Ken Papai" <k...@kenpapai.com> wrote:
> >
> > "warren" <war...@usvh.com> wrote in message
> > news:201220001726070606%war...@usvh.com...
> > > In article <Sza06.5649
$W76....@typhoon.sonic.net>, Derek
> > > <de...@sonic.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here they are - beards, kneesocks, tee
shirts, silly grins. The
> whole
> > > > sordid mess. . . .
> > >
> > > Underwear under cycling shorts, chainring
grease on calf, Skid-Lid
> > > helmet, still subscribing to Bicycling
Magazine for the objective
> > > equipment reviews...
> >
> > These maroons are not only Super Freds but
witless idiots, witness:
> >
> > "John, Nathan and Geoffrey taking a break
before hitting the
> difficult part
> > of the trail.
>
wrong when you should
> know better.
BS! Freds often do things BETTER than us
tradition encompassed riders. It's just that
Freds often do really great things with almost no
style at all.
You ought to know about this John.
tom_k...@my-deja.com
Neacalban1
>tradition encompassed riders. It's
I once had a fred come in the shop looking for a helmet with a chin guard- I
about laughed him out of the shop- no one ever lands on their chin.!!!! (not a
month later I was riding home afeter 80 miles with a friend, and he crashed
and landed on his chin and needed multiple stitches! N
HajajŽ
<tno...@hotbot.com> wrote:
>A Fred is anyone that differs from yourself and a few select friends.
Aha! So the point isn't so much being a Fred, but that
calling someone a Fred reveals you to be a prejudicial
bigot?
tom_k...@my-deja.com
HajajŽ <ha...@worldonline.dk> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:14:09 GMT, Tim Noble
> <tno...@hotbot.com> wrote:
>
> >A Fred is anyone that differs from yourself and a few select friends.
>
> Aha! So the point isn't so much being a Fred, but that
> calling someone a Fred reveals you to be a prejudicial
> bigot?
So that's why you've been calling me a Fred.
John Verheul
tom_k...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <91tt46$rll$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> So how many wins have you racked up John?
Somewhere between 35 and 40, not counting the few wins I had as a 3 or
a 4, and also not counting training races. That's over 12.5 seasons of
racing as a 1 or a 2 though, and a lot of $500 parking lot crits.
Why did you have to ask me this? You're just making Kyle more right.
VoiD
> I once had a fred come in the shop looking for a helmet with a chin guard- I
> about laughed him out of the shop- no one ever lands on their chin.!!!! (not a
> month later I was riding home afeter 80 miles with a friend, and he crashed
> and landed on his chin and needed multiple stitches! N
>
A couple of years ago while commuting to work I slipped on some black ice
in a corner and went down, dirtying my pants. I felt pretty stupid
walking around in dirty pants until I saw my boss holding a Kleenex to
his chin where there was a quarter-sized patch of skin missing. I
threatened to enroll him in a Learn to Race course just so he'd learn how
to fall.
Henry Chang
A Cat 1 friend of mine just had his wheel sucked underneath a car last
week and was flung face first into the ground. Bent his teeth
backwards and split his chin wide open. So people do land on their
chin.
Henry
Henry Chang
wrote:
>On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:14:09 GMT, Tim Noble
><tno...@hotbot.com> wrote:
>
>>A Fred is anyone that differs from yourself and a few select friends.
>
>Aha! So the point isn't so much being a Fred, but that
>calling someone a Fred reveals you to be a prejudicial
>bigot?
The term 'Fred' doesn't imply hate like 'bigot' does. It is more apt
to equate 'Fred' with the term 'dork'.
Henry
tom_k...@my-deja.com
Think about this John -- Kyle being right... That's sort of like black
being white.
Andre Charlebois
HajajŽ <ha...@worldonline.dk> wrote in message
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> Or to put it another way...
>
> What is more Fredly: to use a particular product because
> 'that's what the Pros use', or because that's what your
> sponsored team gave you?
>
Jon Isaacs
duffer riding on a sunny day imitation:
Bike: Some sort of new road bike with STI etc. 700C x 23's, appeared to be Ti
from a distance but I suspect that was just the paint.
Location: Entering trail head for local canyon rides, headed for some nice off
camber rut filled single track.
Helmet: Either a full face downhill helmet or a motorcycle helmet.
Definite potential.
Jon Isaacs
Tom Biery
(very tactful too, John) but I've suffered to much to even give an inch. NO
one that rides (even funky unicycles) is a FRED only non-riders can be
FRED's
Brian Plouffe
-Bib shorts, with the bib part over a white T-Shirt.
-Riding an ATB with really long bar ends, which are pointed almost vertical,
onto which the rider is holding to while riding.
-Road rider using one of those gigantic Camel Backs, when he is probably
going to ride no more than 25 miles and is sure to pass a dozen convenience
stores.
Ultimate Fred Spotting: In Aspen, CO a couple of summers ago, saw a rider on
a really sweet Eddy Merckx. Had swapped the bar and stem and was sporting
this ridiculous high rise stem with a flat MTB bar. Still have nightmares
about that one.
"Jon Isaacs" <joni...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Tom Biery
Brian, that was me! don't you know thats very aero. Did you take notice I
was also wearing a uscf legal tt helmet?
John Hansen
>onto which the rider is holding to while riding.
Seen this one all the time, usually by recreation cyclists??
John Hansen Sarasota Fl.
Jhans...@aol.com
Henry Chang
wrote:
No way. One has to at least ride a bicycle to qualify as a 'Fred'.
Pedestrians cannot be 'Freds'. Neither can motorists. Only cyclists
qualify.
Henry
rbr lexicographer
Tom Biery
bike commute 30 miles each way. Because I ride to Frederick does that make
me a FRED?
NO! I will not give an inch. Even granny that rides a tricycle with a big
basket is not a FRED!
Does a FRED have to be a male?
Ken Papai
"Brian Plouffe" <b...@home.com> ...
> Signs of a Fred:
> - [1] Bib shorts, with the bib part over a white T-Shirt.
> - [2] Riding an ATB with really long bar ends, which are pointed almost
vertical,
> onto which the rider is holding to while riding.
probably
> going to ride no more than 25 miles and is sure to pass a dozen
convenience
> store
ROTFL! You are making the point PERFECTLY Brian.
I rarely if ever see point #1, but your points 2 and 3 - you've nailed
it EXACTLY Brian. Fred == Dork == Barney.
I'll add point #4 and sub-Fred points:
4. Wearing full legs tights (leg warmers) over your shorts.
4a. Wearing such baggy leg warmers they are full of wrinkles.
4b. Wearing tights with a drawstring over your shorts or in lieu of.
> Ultimate Fred Spotting: In Aspen, CO a couple of summers ago, saw a rider
on
> a really sweet Eddy Merckx. Had swapped the bar and stem and was sporting
> this ridiculous high rise stem with a flat MTB bar. Still have nightmares
> about that one.
Fred == Dork == Barney.
> "Jon Isaacs" <joni...@aol.com> wrote ...
Henry Chang
wrote:
>Wait a minute. I just realized that I work in Frederick, live in Rockville,
>bike commute 30 miles each way. Because I ride to Frederick does that make
>me a FRED?
No. What does living in Frederick have to do with anything?
>NO! I will not give an inch. Even granny that rides a tricycle with a big
>basket is not a FRED!
correct.
>Does a FRED have to be a male?
No. There are plenty of female 'Freds' around, just not on this
newsgroup.
Henry
Danny Callen
> In article <3a425215$1...@xavier.noc.drexel.edu>,
> "rob palachick" <robpal...@drexel.edu> wrote:
> > what about someone who wears a darth vader aero TT helmet in a mass
> start
> > race? is he a fred?
>
> He might be, but the only people who would be able to call him that
> would be the people who finish ahead of him in that race.
I had a guy come up to me after the Master District Road Race a few years
ago. He asked me if I finished with the pack. (He had been dropped early in
the race). I said "yes" and he said "What was your time?" (Oh yeah and he
had a beard and knee socks). Would you call that "Fredly"?
Danny Callen
Ken Papai
You discovered the Holy Grail Fred Supreme Ruler there Danny.
ROTFL.
kjp (somebody send palachick to school to get his GED OK?)
Ken Papai
"Henry Chang" <fre...@connectnet.com> ...
> On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:22:12 -0800, "Tom Biery" <trb...@erols.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Wait a minute. I just realized that I work in Frederick, live in
Rockville,
> >bike commute 30 miles each way. Because I ride to Frederick does that
make
> >me a FRED?
>
> No. What does living in Frederick have to do with anything?
>
> >NO! I will not give an inch. Even granny that rides a tricycle with a
big
>
> >Does a FRED have to be a male?
No way Jose! A female Fred admonished me yesterday.
I was biking home on the Golden Gate Bridge. I saw her fat and coming my
way,
riding side-by-side with her Fred girlfriend. She didn't move over so I
didn't either.
She was going 15 mph downhill and I was going 18mph uphill.
She was a full-on Fred: riding an expensive bike, she was slow, she
admonished me! and she was wearing full on black tights and was riding
side-by-side on the Bridge sidewalk not having any freaking brains to fall
back
behind her fredly partner. (she was probably a Tourist too which makes
her even more Fredly - she was probably a Princess Fred)
> No. There are plenty of female 'Freds' around, just not on this
> newsgroup.
Ken, Fred sighter extraordinaire
Andrew Albright
look at this picture.
Tom Biery
Henry Chang wrote in message >
>No. What does living in Frederick have to do with anything?
around here we call them "FRED"-necks. oh and Frederick county has a bad
reputation for brush bys.
Tom Biery
Ken Papai wrote in message
>Ken, Fred sighter extraordinaire
WHO has the most "What exactly is a Fred?" posts...?
Marty Gulaian
"Ken Papai" <k...@kenpapai.com> wrote:
> I'll add point #4 and sub-Fred points:
>
> 4. Wearing full legs tights (leg warmers) over your shorts.
> 4a. Wearing such baggy leg warmers they are full of wrinkles.
> 4b. Wearing tights with a drawstring over your shorts or in lieu of.
I don't understand people wearing tights UNDER shorts. Wearing anything
under your shorts seems pretty clueless to me. Maybe in a race where
you want people to see your sponsors you could justify it as a
necessary evil, but people riding road with a couple of layers between
them and their chamois crack me up.
Yesterday I had my baggy drawstring tights over THERMAL UNDERWEAR over
my shorts. I was fredly, but warm @ -2F. Anybody who would have laughed
at me was hiding in their basement bored out of their minds on their
rollers.
--
Marty Gulaian - Cleveland, OH
Rod lawson
"Henry Chang" <fre...@connectnet.com> wrote in message
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stitches in my chin, abrasions on the fronts of my thighs and my body, and
hardly a mark on my arms, and nothing on my knees.
I had trouble eating afterwards. The inside of my lip was cut and was sore
and it was difficult opening my mouth. About three weeks later I was sitting
at my computer typing and suddenly yawned. There was a deafening click and
my jaw immediately felt much better. So yes, it is possible to land on your
chin when you crash.
--
Rod.
Discoveries are made every 15 years. Yours is particularly good; it hasn't
been made for 150 years.
"The Doctors Dilemma" GB Shaw
Tom Nakashima
popular 60's Hanna-Barbera production. As kids, we have used the name
"Barney", Fred's sidekick for shadowing type personalities. Perhaps
"Prehistoric Fred" has taken over as the modern day loser. Just not sure how
he ties into cycling?
Benjamin Weiner
> >-Riding an ATB with really long bar ends, which are pointed almost vertical,
> >onto which the rider is holding to while riding.
> Seen this one all the time, usually by recreation cyclists??
A couple of days ago I saw a grizzled old guy riding around
town on a drop bar bike with the bars rotated almost 180 degrees,
so the brake levers are facing up and the bar ends are as far
away from the rider as possible. Nothing unusual about that,
rec. or take-it-easy riders accustomed to riser bars did that
all the time. The extra special thing was that this guy's bike
had bar-end shifters.
Maybe he just never shifted the gears.
Neacalban1
>a really sweet Eddy Merckx. Had swapped the bar and stem and was sporting
>this ridiculous high rise stem with a flat MTB bar. Still have nightmares
>about that one.
In my days in the shop, I had to build more than one like that. But I'll grant
the customers usually had neck or back problems, and a good customer is a good
customer.
HajajŽ
wrote:
>In article <ut564tgpglqbmfcko...@4ax.com>,
> HajajŽ <ha...@worldonline.dk> wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:14:09 GMT, Tim Noble
>> <tno...@hotbot.com> wrote:
>>
>> >A Fred is anyone that differs from yourself and a few select friends.
>>
>> Aha! So the point isn't so much being a Fred, but that
>> calling someone a Fred reveals you to be a prejudicial
>> bigot?
>
>So that's why you've been calling me a Fred.
>
I don't remember calling you a Fred, Tom. Nor anything else
for that matter. I've always enjoyed reading your posts.
And if I did I obviously, as evidenced by this very thread,
didn't know what I was talking about. So if I did call you a
Fred, I agree that it would have made me prejudicial. ;-)
HajajŽ
Bigot implies hate? I wasn't aware of that.
Equating 'Fred' with 'dork' doesn't help me much. I am no
more familiar with 'dork'.
Danny Callen
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:04:26 GMT, fre...@connectnet.com
> (Henry Chang) wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:09:07 +0100, HajajŽ <ha...@worldonline.dk>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:14:09 GMT, Tim Noble
> >><tno...@hotbot.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>A Fred is anyone that differs from yourself and a few select friends.
> >>
> >>Aha! So the point isn't so much being a Fred, but that
> >>calling someone a Fred reveals you to be a prejudicial
> >>bigot?
> >
> >The term 'Fred' doesn't imply hate like 'bigot' does. It is more apt
> >to equate 'Fred' with the term 'dork'.
> >
>
> Bigot implies hate? I wasn't aware of that.
> Equating 'Fred' with 'dork' doesn't help me much. I am no
> more familiar with 'dork'.
In my definition a "dork" is stronger than a "Fred" the biggest difference
is that a "dork" rides and trains on tri-bars ALL the time!
Danny Callen
Jon Isaacs
>grant
>the customers usually had neck or back problems, and a good customer is a
>good
>customer.
There was a fellow around Encinitas who rode around most of the time in a Red
Caddy convertible. He was a big guy with a top knot type hair do, his red hair
was done in a bundle that stuck straight up.
Maybe Henry or Shaun remember him. He had belly on him and money as well.
He had a 5500 Trek with a Titanium adapter to raise the stem of the straight
bars up around a foot and a triple crank so he could make it up his drive way.
I never saw him ride the thing, I just saw it when he brought it in for a
tuneup.
Not a Fred, Not a Poseur, just a general all-around NUT.
Jon Isaacs
David N. Welton
> In my definition a "dork" is stronger than a "Fred" the biggest difference
> is that a "dork" rides and trains on tri-bars ALL the time!
I once saw a guy ride by, doing all of 12 miles an hour, *using aero
bars*. It was really an interesting sight...
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Ken Papai
>> Bigot implies hate? I wasn't aware of that.
>> Equating 'Fred' with 'dork' doesn't help me much. I am no
>> more familiar with 'dork'.
>In my definition a "dork" is stronger than a "Fred" the biggest difference
>is that a "dork" rides and trains on tri-bars ALL the time!
ROTFL! Danny scores again. (is that why New England
Cat. III Masters are Pros - the tri-bars? 'cause it sure
as hell ain't the beer since west coast ales beat east coast
ales 24-7-365 bro!)
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"A photographic memory but with the lens cover glued on."
Michael Conway
any extra positions are nice to have :-)
Oh and these guys don't usually zoom around at better than 20 mph all
day either.
I know that when I was riding Audax I used to get very jealous of the
guys with tri-bars - usually around 12 hours into a ride, I swear that
some of those guys can ride in their sleep!
Michael
Danny Callen
"Ken Papai" <kpa...@rahul.net> wrote in message
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> "Danny Callen" <dan...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>
> >> Bigot implies hate? I wasn't aware of that.
> >> Equating 'Fred' with 'dork' doesn't help me much. I am no
> >> more familiar with 'dork'.
>
> >In my definition a "dork" is stronger than a "Fred" the biggest
difference
> >is that a "dork" rides and trains on tri-bars ALL the time!
>
> ROTFL! Danny scores again. (is that why New England
> Cat. III Masters are Pros - the tri-bars? 'cause it sure
> as hell ain't the beer since west coast ales beat east coast
> ales 24-7-365 bro!)
>
Ya know, New England hold's it own quite well with it's beer but I have
heard the West Coast beers are quite tasty. If I ever get back on my damn
bike again and make it out to California, I plan on partaking of the West
Coast's best. Until then, I think I'll go have a Harpoon Winter Warmer since
it's about ZERO outside (not including wind chill!).
Danny Callen
..still piling on the winter pounds...god the spring is gonna hurt!
Ford.Greene
I am now fredaware and while not a super-cool racer am not all Fred either.
i'll just grit it out and endure all the silent scorn and ridicule while I
ride resting on my aerobars at 10 mph with my trick wheels and triple.
Thanks for the education.
Ford Greene
Ken Papai
>"Ken Papai" <kpa...@rahul.net> wrote in message
Me two. I had too lunches today. At 1145am I had a 12" Subway
roast beef with BBQ chips and a root beer.
At 1pm I had a full BBQ lunch from Rudy's: slow-cooked
brisquet and beans with white bread.
I kid you not. Good thing I rode 10 hrs last Xmas weekend.
Best east coast brewery: Victory Ales!
HajajŽ
Reading this thread has been an almost surreal experience.
But I'm pretty sure that I'm not a Fred.
HajajŽ
Henry Chang
wrote:
>Actually, I'm more confused than ever.
>Reading this thread has been an almost surreal experience.
>But I'm pretty sure that I'm not a Fred.
What are you talking about? Anyone who used the signature line
"In more need of a BJ than any white man on earth" certainly
merits consideration as a 'Fred'.
HajajŽ
Ah, yes of course. Fortunately it's been a while since I've
had that problem ;-)
But, are you saying: once a Fred, always a Fred? No chance
of rehabilitation?
Ron Baughman
however. You can become a non-Fred eventually, with a lot of miles behind
you. But you'll still have to find out what it is before you're completely
Fredless.
happy ny,
Ron
"HajajŽ" <ha...@worldonline.dk> wrote in message
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Henry Chang
wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 05:27:55 GMT, fre...@connectnet.com
>(Henry Chang) wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 02:00:17 +0100, HajajŽ <ha...@worldonline.dk>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Actually, I'm more confused than ever.
>>>Reading this thread has been an almost surreal experience.
>>>But I'm pretty sure that I'm not a Fred.
>>
>>
>>What are you talking about? Anyone who used the signature line
>>"In more need of a BJ than any white man on earth" certainly
>>merits consideration as a 'Fred'.
>>
>
>Ah, yes of course. Fortunately it's been a while since I've
>had that problem ;-)
>But, are you saying: once a Fred, always a Fred? No chance
>of rehabilitation?
Yeah, there's always a way to rescue oneself from Fredliness. Sounds
like you've done it.
Henry
Howard Jones
particularly Oregon to get a good brew.
HBJ
"Danny Callen" <dan...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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John Schwebel
Ken Papai wrote:
>
>
> Me two. I had too lunches today.
^^^ ^^^
Perfect example of an "English grammar" Fred.
Ken Papai
"John Schwebel" <j...@equalizers.org> ...
The joke went totally over your head John... sorry 'bout that bro!
Ken