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Bob Schwartz

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Dec 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/1/00
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It's all my fault.

It started innocently enough as a tangent to an
artificial intelligence project I was working on.
The idea was to integrate a web searching tool I
had written with sendmail and inn to create an
internet personality. It would walk the web forming
"opinions" and turning stories it happened upon
into personalized "events" it could recall, using
these to initiate and respond to email and news
posts. I wrote the Anecdote module to morph details
somewhat to avoid detection. It's not perfect though,
hence the recent Limbaugh plagiarism.

I named it after the sound my friend Tom made when
he clipped a pedal in a corner in a crit and whacked
a bus shelter. This was in the days before the ANSI
helmet rule, the real life Tom drools a lot more
these days than he used to. Ironic, eh?

The technical aspects turned out to be a piece of
cake. The devil turned out to be in the thread selection
algorithms, especially in the Topicality module. In
order to keep up on current events it leans heavily
on web sites run by the US news media. News outlets
in the US have been increasingly coming under the
ownership of large corporations, and the slant of
their reporting has shifted to reflect this. The result
has been that Tom's views began to grow increasingly
conservative. I tried to modify the code to point
him back to the center, but it's been hell. What's
worse, I can't seem to weight parameters such that
he is anywhere near as passionate about bike racing
as he is about absorbing the right wing bias in
the media. I've been over every line of code, I don't
even want to think about the amount of time I've
flushed on this. I even 'sent' him to France to watch
the finish of the Tour to give myself time for a top-
to-bottom rewrite. All to no avail.

I think its the election cycle that's doing it. First
it was McCain. Man, there's nothing uglier than watching
conservatives eat one of their own. I thought I could
compensate for this but the US media's terror over the
possibility of a Gore presidency was just too much.

So I'm pulling the plug. I'm giving up. Conservatives
now control US government. This by itself doesn't
concern me. What I'm afraid of is the reaction from
people that have spent years of their lives railing
about the problems with government once they realize
government still pisses them off and they can no
longer blame it on those damn liberals. If I can't
manage my creation during an election cycle, there is
no way I can keep him in check once conservatives
start turning on each other. Like I say, there's
nothing uglier.

You may be wondering about the picture on Papai's web
page. Ken caught me by surprise with that. It took me
a while to surf up some appropriate subjects to morph
with GIMP. When I started the couple was Cathy Boland
and Dave Bailey. Hey, more irony! Turning Cathy into
'Ann' wasn't that big a deal thanks to the shades and
helmets. But by that time I was getting a little
resentful of the amount of time Tom was taking up so I
invested a lot of CPU cycles in dragging Tom's
appearance down from Dave's. Every so often someone
posts something about the helmet in the picture,
perched on the head of someone (although he's not really
a person) so vehemently anti-helmet. Yep, you guessed it,
still more irony!! Ha, ha, ha!

Even with all the problems I'm still pretty proud of
him. After all, he's passed the Turing Test, you all
thought he was a real person. I think that's pretty
bizarre considering what a gay basher he turned out to
be. Poor Alan's probably turning over in his grave.
Irony, irony, irony.

It's been fun to watch at times. I wrote him to never
admit he was wrong, no matter how crackpot the opinion
he picked up from the web and how overwhelming the
evidence. If someone posted a billion times, Tom was
programmed to post a billion + 1 followups. When
presented with a conclusive counter argument, it was
easier to just code him to ignore it. I really felt
guilty sometimes, watching some of you do the Sisyphus
thing.

But it's time to end it. I apologize for all the time
and bandwidth he's consumed.

ps -ef | grep kunich\.exe | cut -d ' ' -f 2 | kill -9

There, it's done. You won't be hearing from Tom
Kunich anymore. Once again, I apologize.

Bob Schwartz
cv...@execpc.com

Dan Connelly

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Dec 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/2/00
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Bob Schwartz wrote:
>
> It's all my fault.
>

> .....


>
> ps -ef | grep kunich\.exe | cut -d ' ' -f 2 | kill -9

Too bad. This was an absolute lock for last "post of the month" of the millenium,
until it all unraveled when Bob left the "xargs" before the kill
in the above, revealing the fraud. The game is up. The house of cards crumbles.

Alan can rest again.

Dan

chria hazlitt

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Dec 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/2/00
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>
> There, it's done. You won't be hearing from Tom
> Kunich anymore. Once again, I apologize.
>
> Bob Schwartz
> cv...@execpc.com

Oh, if only it were true . . .

Chria


Brian Plouffe

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Dec 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/2/00
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we can only dream............
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Donald Munro

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Dec 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/2/00
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"Bob Schwartz" <cv...@execpc.com> wrote:
> snip

> ps -ef | grep kunich\.exe | cut -d ' ' -f 2 | kill -9
>

> There, it's done. You won't be hearing from Tom
> Kunich anymore. Once again, I apologize.

The problem is kill -9 doesn't always work with zombie processes. I'm
afraid the Kunich zombie will continue to haunt the dark alleys of the
information highway until an exorcist can be found.

Henry Chang

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Dec 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/2/00
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On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 12:30:06 GMT, Dan Connelly <djco...@ieee.org>
wrote:

>
>Bob Schwartz wrote:
>>
>> It's all my fault.
>>
>> .....
>>
>> ps -ef | grep kunich\.exe | cut -d ' ' -f 2 | kill -9
>
>Too bad. This was an absolute lock for last "post of the month" of the millenium,
>until it all unraveled when Bob left the "xargs" before the kill
>in the above, revealing the fraud. The game is up. The house of cards crumbles.
>
>Alan can rest again.


I don't know who this 'Alan' is that you're referring to, but I agree,
Schwartz's post kicks ass. Nice job.

Henry

Henry Chang

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Dec 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/2/00
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On Sat, 02 Dec 2000 19:12:53 GMT, fre...@connectnet.com (Henry Chang)
wrote:


I reread it and figured out that it was Alan Turing. one demerit for
me.


Henry

N. Peter Armitage

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Dec 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/2/00
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Dan Connelly wrote:

> Bob Schwartz wrote:
> >
> > It's all my fault.
> >
> > .....
> >
> > ps -ef | grep kunich\.exe | cut -d ' ' -f 2 | kill -9
>
> Too bad. This was an absolute lock for last "post of the month" of the millenium,
>
>

> Dan

I don't agree.

I do agree that it is creative.... a very creative reworking of Dave Bailey's post of
few months ago that had the "dump" noises attached. I thought Andrew "Vern" Albright
had the monopoly on ripping off DB's style.

-P


Bob Schwartz

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Dec 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/2/00
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Dan Connelly wrote:
>
> Bob Schwartz wrote:
> >
> > It's all my fault.
> >
> > .....
> >
> > ps -ef | grep kunich\.exe | cut -d ' ' -f 2 | kill -9
>
> Too bad. This was an absolute lock for last "post of the month" of the millenium,

> until it all unraveled when Bob left the "xargs" before the kill
> in the above, revealing the fraud. The game is up. The house of cards crumbles.

Of course, 'kill' doesn't do stdin. That'll teach me to not check the exit
status.

Well, I just terminated his process for real so he's gone for good. There
was no harm done, I checked the logs (let me tell you, Tom makes me glad
that hard disks are cheap) and the Response daemon was inactive. I'm sort
of surprised by that, it seems out of character for him. I had coded some
random periods of inactivity to give him the appearance of having a life,
but I had written that off as another failure. Maybe it kicked in at just
the right time.

It's funny, but he appears to have abandoned the online news outlets not
long after I issued the failed kill command. He focused on security and
firewall sites for a while, and then he spent several hours poking around
other people's ports. I hope he wasn't being a naughty boy. Oh well, I'm
sure it's nothing. I'll worry about it later. It's not like he's smart
enough to port himself to NT or anything. No, he's gone forever.

> Alan can rest again.

Dan, if you still believe that a living, breathing person could possibly
be the lunatic that Tom Kunich was, then all I can say is the hook set
pretty deep. That should be your picture in the dictionary next to the
entry for 'gullible'. Kunich was software. And don't ask me for the source
code, I've deleted it. Now I know how Oppenheimer felt.

Bob Schwartz
cv...@execpc.com

Dan Connelly

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Dec 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/3/00
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"N. Peter Armitage" wrote:
>
> Dan Connelly wrote:

> > Too bad. This was an absolute lock for last "post of the month" of the millenium,

> I don't agree.


>
> I do agree that it is creative.... a very creative reworking of Dave Bailey's post of
> few months ago that had the "dump" noises attached. I thought Andrew "Vern" Albright
> had the monopoly on ripping off DB's style.


Bob's quote revealed his Turing machine was a fraud. But Peter's post
clearly proves he actually IS being run in code -- "N. Peter Armitage"
doesn't exist. No human could possibly have an associative index as deep
as is demonstrated here.

Dan

rjk3

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Dec 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/3/00
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In article <3A291E9D...@leland.stanford.edu>,

"N. Peter Armitage" <np...@leland.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Dan Connelly wrote:
>
> > Bob Schwartz wrote:
> > >
> > > It's all my fault.
> > >
> > > .....
> > >
> > > ps -ef | grep kunich\.exe | cut -d ' ' -f 2 | kill -9
> >
> > Too bad. This was an absolute lock for last "post of the month" of
the millenium,
> >
> >
> > Dan

>
> I don't agree.
>
> I do agree that it is creative.... a very creative reworking of Dave
Bailey's post of
> few months ago that had the "dump" noises attached. I thought
Andrew "Vern" Albright
> had the monopoly on ripping off DB's style.
>
> -P


Would it be asking too much of you to repost the original post of Dave
Bailey that was ripped off?

Richard
>
>


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