Trees along ToC Course
Jan
are.
Thanks
Jan
Tom Kunich
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> Watching ToC on TV now, can someone tell me what the rows and rows of
> trees are.
Orchards are very common in California. We grow a large percentage of the
apples in the US. But there may be huge orange groves all over the southern
half of the state. Then over by the coast there's all sorts of tree fruit
grown.
Remember that at one time California supplied nearly all of the truck garden
vegetables for the western half of the US and most of the citrus fruit for
the entire US. Especially now that some sort of disease has been killing off
the citrus crop in Florida.
William Asher
Given its size and the quantity of other produce it produces, California is
a relatively minor player in domestic apple production (coming in tied for
4th in 2005 with only 4%). The reason is peculiar to apples, which are
native to Afghanistan and that region, and need a minimum number of low
temperature days during winter to set fruit. Most of the agricultural land
in California does not meet this requirement. This is why Washington
crushes California in terms of apple production.
http://www.fas.usda.gov/htp/horticulture/Apples/Apple%20Update%20-
%20November%202005.pdf
How do you like them apples?
--
Bill Asher
Fred Fredburger
But now that the Evil Dr. Cousineau and his Amazing Weather Machine has
swapped California's weather for that of the Pacific NW, apple
production is sure to follow.
Kunich has merely anticipated that certainty.
Paul G.
I think they grow oranges in that area. Almonds are another big crop
in California. Apples are not- in the Santa Rosa area they have
largely been replaced by grapes, for example. My club used to have an
annual "Apple Blossom Ride" near Sebastopol that was gorgeous- cycling
down narrow country lanes lined with apple trees covered with white
blossoms...
-Paul
Mark VandenBerghe
"Jan" <j...@freeinternet.com> wrote in message
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Fred Fredburger
> Walnuts and Almond
Confirming the fact that CA is full of nuts.
John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
>Watching ToC on TV now, can someone tell me what the rows and rows of trees
>are.
I don't know, but did yall see the field just shredding on a flat road
from the speed of the chase with guys just flying out the back.
And then with about 2K to go that overhead shot of two big trains next
to each other!
Wow!
Mike Jacoubowsky
news:B0mnl.11061$pr6....@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com...
Walnuts and Almonds would be correct. Cherries in some areas of the
'valley as well. Not too many apples around there, but a moderate number
of oranges (not juice oranges like Florida, but more likely the type you
peel & eat). Some peaches.
Surprisingly, Oranges aren't even in the top-10. In 2006, Almonds were
#1, Walnuts #4, Cherries #5 (just counting those in the top-10 that are
trees).
http://www.co.san-joaquin.ca.us/agcomm/Docs/2005%20Crop%20Report%20News%20Releases.pdf
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
GoneBeforeMyTime
That be almonds or peaches, but for instance in Exeter, they grow oranges
bigtime. Others are avacados or even pistachios, sometimes apples or
walnuts.
Susan Walker
> And then with about 2K to go that overhead shot of two big trains next
> to each other!
That was great. Undoubtedly happened before somewhere, but can't
remember seeing it.
Anton Berlin
Those are deficit trees planted by republican ideology.
Impressive huh?
Tom Kunich
message news:499ddf26$1...@news.x-privat.org...
> But now that the Evil Dr. Cousineau and his Amazing Weather Machine has
> swapped California's weather for that of the Pacific NW, apple production
> is sure to follow.
>
> Kunich has merely anticipated that certainty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastopol,_California
"Sebastopol became known as the Gravenstein Apple Capital of the World."
"Some famous residents of Sebastopol include: the horticulturist Luther
Burbank who established an 18 acre Gold Ridge Environmental Farm in the
township in the late 1800s; Willard Libby, inventor of carbon dating went to
Analy High School; the cartoonist Charles Schulz; actress Karen Valentine of
the television show Room 222; actress Schuyler Grant of the 1985 adaptation
of Anne of Green Gables; and the musicians Les Claypool of Primus and both
Jerry Garcia and Mickey Hart of the Grateful Dead;"
And my mother had a house there as well as my uncle. Before the late 1980's
the apple production of northern California was prodigious. But by all means
try to become the dim wit you act.
Tom Kunich
news:xwmnl.20791$Ws1....@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> Walnuts and Almonds would be correct. Cherries in some areas of the
> 'valley as well. Not too many apples around there, but a moderate number
> of oranges (not juice oranges like Florida, but more likely the type you
> peel & eat). Some peaches.
>
> Surprisingly, Oranges aren't even in the top-10. In 2006, Almonds were #1,
> Walnuts #4, Cherries #5 (just counting those in the top-10 that are
> trees).
> http://www.co.san-joaquin.ca.us/agcomm/Docs/2005%20Crop%20Report%20News%20Releases.pdf
The types of trees change every decade or so now so it's hard to keep up.
When I was riding motorcycles around southern California in the Riverside
area, ALL of the hills were terraced under the grass. They had all at one
time been Orange orchards. It was absolutely amazing to be riding a
motorcycle down a dirt road 30 miles from nowhere and if you turned to go up
to the top of a hill you had to be extremely careful because of that
terracing under there that you couldn't see because of the grass.
I was out riding with some friends and they disappeared. I decided to find a
high hill to look around for them.
I rode up along a deeper and deeper cutout and then turned up the hill and
hit the throttle. There was a terrace under there and the bike jumped out
from under me. I was holding the bars as it flipped completely over behind
me and went over the now 12 foot high cliff. I was dragged over the cliff
and fell with the motor cycle. The motorcycle landed perfectly upright on
the road down below. I fell EXACTLY onto the saddle with both feet landing
either side as if I'd just stopped! I was completely unhurt. I looked all
around to make sure no one saw me and rode off to another hill top. As I
reached there my friends rode up there as well. One of them looked at me and
said, "I saw that." Nothing was ever said about it again......
Ryan Cousineau
Training race. Doesn't count.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcou...@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
Ryan Cousineau
Fred Fredburger <Fred.Fr...@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh> wrote:
Man, I would have so much fun with an Amazing Weather Machine.
> Kunich has merely anticipated that certainty.
--
William Asher
Tom, the entire state produces 4% nationally of the US apple crop. 4 out
of 100 apples comes from California. Sebastopol can call themselves
whatever they want, but the fact remains, California overall is a very
minor player in the apple business, and never has been. The reason is
mostly climatic, there aren't enough cold winter nights most places in
California for apples to do well. Much as I love Gravensteins, they are
not a big commercial apple because they are smaller than more commercially
successful varieties, don't keep well, and bruise rather easily (facts I
just made up, but may actually be true). So, planting a single large
gravenstein orchard probably puts you right there with Sebastopol, whose
other cash crop is pot, which makes the idea of an apple hash pipe somewhat
intriguing.
As far as your assertion that California used to be a major player in the
apple business, facts from the California apple board would suggest you
are, unfortunately, wrong:
http://www.allaboutapples.com/orchard/ca.htm
Perhaps you are remembering something else? I'm surprised that at some
point you didn't own an apple orchard, or do genetic engineering of fruit,
or invent the peach or something so you would know this already.
Finally, if you would acknowledge to yourself that I am not, in fact, a
*huge* dimwit, you wouldn't look like such a major doofus. Now, cut out
this non-racing related chatter, there's a race on!
--
Bill Asher
William Asher
>
> Man, I would have so much fun with an Amazing Weather Machine.
>
You just need a several terawatt wind power array.
http://www.atmos-chem-phys-discuss.net/9/2917/2009/acpd-9-2917-2009.html
This was in the public domain, nobody can blame me in particular is Ryan
becomes Dr. Evil and takes over the world.
--
Bill Asher
dave a
Paul, please add this to the legend file.
- dave a
Bob Schwartz
> In article <7psrp453p4prtlldt...@4ax.com>,
> John Forrest Tomlinson <usenet...@jt10000.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:23:21 -0000, "Jan" <j...@freeinternet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Watching ToC on TV now, can someone tell me what the rows and rows of trees
>>> are.
>> I don't know, but did yall see the field just shredding on a flat road
>> from the speed of the chase with guys just flying out the back.
>>
>> And then with about 2K to go that overhead shot of two big trains next
>> to each other!
>>
>> Wow!
>
> Training race. Doesn't count.
Indeed. Chase groups on flat roads don't shred guys out the back
in races that count. When that was going on Odessa was paying
more attention to the dog.
Bob Schwartz
Fred Fredburger
You can tell your grandkids "Boy, I remember when Dr. Evil was a
no-good, drunken, RBR posting looser. But then I showed him how to
modify the weather and the rest is history."
I've assumed that your grandchildren will turn out evil and therefore be
impressed by the story. I have no reason to doubt the validity of that
assumption. I've also inferred they will know what a "looser" is, that
one's a bit tenuous.
Fred Fredburger
>
> Those are deficit trees planted by republican ideology.
>
> Impressive huh?
>
Too succinct. Please rant more.
Robert Chung
> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>> Training race. Doesn't count.
>
> Indeed. Chase groups on flat roads don't shred guys out the back
> in races that count.
Yeah. It appears to have been the easiest stage thus far.
http://home.trainingpeaks.com/races/2009-tour-of-california-race-file-analysis/stage-5-larsson-.aspx
bjwe...@gmail.com
Dumbasses,
This was "The Avengers" (90s movie version). It sucked.
Which was especially tragic and inexcusable since it had
Uma Thurman, Ralph Fiennes, _and_ Eddie Izzard.
It must suck to know that your vision of evil world
domination has already been irrecoverably
botched by some Hollywood suit.
Ben
Ryan Cousineau
Fred Fredburger <Fred.Fr...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
> William Asher wrote:
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> >
> >> Man, I would have so much fun with an Amazing Weather Machine.
> >>
> >
> > You just need a several terawatt wind power array.
> >
> > http://www.atmos-chem-phys-discuss.net/9/2917/2009/acpd-9-2917-2009.html
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/c755kr
> >
> > This was in the public domain, nobody can blame me in particular is Ryan
> > becomes Dr. Evil and takes over the world.
Yes! This is what I am talking about, and the fact it was the plot of
the Worst Action Movie Ever is just the icing on the sundae.
> You can tell your grandkids "Boy, I remember when Dr. Evil was a
> no-good, drunken, RBR posting looser. But then I showed him how to
> modify the weather and the rest is history."
>
> I've assumed that your grandchildren will turn out evil and therefore be
> impressed by the story. I have no reason to doubt the validity of that
> assumption. I've also inferred they will know what a "looser" is, that
> one's a bit tenuous.
Fredburger's impertinence has been noted!
Donald Munro
>> here was a terrace under there and the bike
>> jumped out from under me. I was holding the bars as it flipped
>> completely over behind me and went over the now 12 foot high cliff. I
>> was dragged over the cliff and fell with the motor cycle. The motorcycle
>> landed perfectly upright on the road down below. I fell EXACTLY onto the
>> saddle with both feet landing either side as if I'd just stopped!
dave a wrote:
> Paul, please add this to the legend file.
Sorry, its a classified CIA document. You mean you didn't know
K was a 000 classified CIA agent ?
Donald Munro
> Fredburger's impertinence has been noted!
Leave it to Mrs Fredburger to note his impotence.
Fred Fredburger
Mrs. Fredburger has her own plan for world domination. It involves
turning all the men in the world into slobbering, sex-obsessed (and
therefore easily manipulated) pawns.
I don't see what the big trick is.
William Asher
4900-ac5c-b...@k19g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>
> Dumbasses,
>
> This was "The Avengers" (90s movie version). It sucked.
> Which was especially tragic and inexcusable since it had
> Uma Thurman, Ralph Fiennes, _and_ Eddie Izzard.
>
> It must suck to know that your vision of evil world
> domination has already been irrecoverably
> botched by some Hollywood suit.
>
> Ben
>
Really? With a huge wind turbine array? I never saw "The Avengers"
movie. To do so would violate the sacred vow I took regarding Diana
Rigg. Telling you that much may in fact cause me to be damned in hell,
if there is a hell (cursed Unitarian upbringing). I take the young Diana
Rigg that seriously. That is semi-interesting since it's only been in
the last year people have demonstrated (using models) that wind arrays
can modify synoptic weather patterns (although they know they have
observable effects for tens of kilometers downstream).
Just because it's been in a bad movie doesn't mean the idea is too dumb
for Ryan to try using it to take over the world. I mean, get a few stiff
ones in him (drinks, for chrissakes, not everything is a rude gay sex
joke) and he could be talked into doing this, using spare bicycle parts.
The result would look like something out of Waterworld (which I did see,
because I have no sacred vows concerning either Costner or whatever
actress played the female lead). Which would be kind of cool, with a
post-apocalyptic steam punk look, sort of.
--
Bill Asher
Paul G.
This could be worked into the obligatory chase scene in the next Bond
movie. I like the idea of a Kuntitch FAQ. A listing of his virtual
employment history would be interesting since he's worked for "many
years" in so many fields. I think Munro has the explanation- they
were covers for his CIA work.
-Paul
Donald Munro
> The result would look like something out of Waterworld (which I did see,
> because I have no sacred vows concerning either Costner or whatever
> actress played the female lead). Which would be kind of cool, with a
> post-apocalyptic steam punk look, sort of.
His cyclocross mutant bike probably already looks like something
from Waterworld.
SLAVE of THE STATE
> Watching ToC on TV now, can someone tell me what the rows and rows of trees
> are.
>
> Jan
Komrade,
That is Kommifornia Reefer. KOMMIEFORNIA SUPPLIES 90% OF THE WORLD'S
REEFER (plus PORN and KRANK too).
SLAVE
Bret
> Watching ToC on TV now, can someone tell me what the rows and rows of trees
> are.
> Thanks
>
> Jan
I've been to the Visalia where the stage began. There are orange
orchards all over that place.
Ryan Cousineau
Donald Munro <fat-d...@mailinator.com> wrote:
Oh yeah, I gotta post some pics of its latest mutation.
BTW, I have a road bike called "The Whip," a CX bike called "The Black
and Blue Bike," and the mutant CX bike is now named "Barely Legal."
I feel so dirty. Like my bikes!
Ryan Cousineau
Fred Fredburger <Fred.Fr...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
Is she Diana Rigg or Uma Thurman?
Either is welcome to join in my evil plots. Catsuits will be provided!
Michael Press
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:23:21 -0000, "Jan" <j...@freeinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Watching ToC on TV now, can someone tell me what the rows and rows of trees
> >are.
>
> I don't know, but did yall see the field just shredding on a flat road
> from the speed of the chase with guys just flying out the back.
Puzzling. They are sheltered in the peloton.
--
Michael Press
Donald Munro
>> I don't know, but did yall see the field just shredding on a flat road
>> from the speed of the chase with guys just flying out the back.
Michael Press wrote:
> Puzzling. They are sheltered in the peloton.
Cross winds perhaps ? (I don't get to see the TOC myself)
John Forrest Tomlinson
I looked to be no crosswind or maybe a tiny bit -- mainly ridiculous
speed at the end of a long day, with some people just cracking and
leaving gaps.
Paul G.
wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:21:18 +0200, Donald Munro
>
Yeah- what I saw was several gaps gradually opening due to the high
speed, and the riders caught behind the gaps looking at each other and
waiting for someone else to chase. Meanwhile, the gap grew
exponentially. Then Basso came flying across the gap by himself.
-Paul
Fred Fredburger
> In article <499e...@news.x-privat.org>,
> Fred Fredburger <Fred.Fr...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
>
>> Donald Munro wrote:
>>> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>>>> Fredburger's impertinence has been noted!
>>> Leave it to Mrs Fredburger to note his impotence.
>> Mrs. Fredburger has her own plan for world domination. It involves
>> turning all the men in the world into slobbering, sex-obsessed (and
>> therefore easily manipulated) pawns.
>>
>> I don't see what the big trick is.
>
> Is she Diana Rigg or Uma Thurman?
>
> Either is welcome to join in my evil plots. Catsuits will be provided!
>
As Fred Fredburger is a cartoon character, comparisons to Lois Griffin
or Marge Simpson would be more accurate. I understand your obsession
with Diana Rigg. Memories of Wilma Flintstone keep ME awake at night.
Donald Munro
> As Fred Fredburger is a cartoon character, comparisons to Lois Griffin or
> Marge Simpson would be more accurate. I understand your obsession with
> Diana Rigg. Memories of Wilma Flintstone keep ME awake at night.
Its just that rbr lesbian obsession again:
<http://www.lewdcomics.com/2007/11/17/wilma-flintstone-and-betty-rubble-rub-eachother-down/>
Michael Press
Donald Munro <fat-d...@mailinator.com> wrote:
I was ragging on somebody in rbt who thinks small
aerodynamic advantages are negligible when riding
in the shelter of the peloton. Sorry for the confusion.
--
Michael Press
Fred Fredburger
Looks like good, wholesome fun. I draw the line at that stuff Jane
Jetson and Rosie were caught doing on video. How could she just USE
Rosie that way?
Donald Munro
>> >> I don't know, but did yall see the field just shredding on a flat
>> >> road from the speed of the chase with guys just flying out the back.
Michael Press wrote:
>> > Puzzling. They are sheltered in the peloton.
Donald Munro wrote:
>> Cross winds perhaps ? (I don't get to see the TOC myself)
Michael Press wrote:
> I was ragging on somebody in rbt who thinks small aerodynamic advantages
> are negligible when riding in the shelter of the peloton. Sorry for the
> confusion.
You could rub the Fogel genie for JFT's benefit while you're about it.
Howard Kveck
Fred Fredburger <Fred.Fr...@Where.Are.The.Nachos.Huh> wrote:
Betty Rubble was way hotter. But Lois from "Family Guy" is the one to watch for
now. http://tinyurl.com/9tcsc6
--
tanx,
Howard
Caught playing safe
It's a bored game
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
Michael Press
Howard Kveck <YOURh...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote:
Perhaps a reminder of the origin of expressions.
Hard core surfers were a closed group and called
daytrippers from the suburbs Freds. Recognizing
the clear superiority of La Rubble, the Fred's
girlfriends were called 'Bettys' (Betties ?) and were welcome.
--
Michael Press
Howard Kveck
Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Hard core surfers were a closed group and called
> daytrippers from the suburbs Freds.
In the skateboard scene, which wasn't so far separated from the surf scene (at
least at the time I was in it), the suburban daytrippers were mostly thought of as
and called "kooks." Of course, most of us were from the 'burbs but if you were good
enough, you got to be an honorary "local." What a funny scene.
Fred Fredburger
Lois is SERIOUS jailbait. You do realize that she's only 10 years old?
This almost gets us back on topic...
Donald Munro
>> Betty Rubble was way hotter. But Lois from "Family Guy" is the one to
>> watch for now. http://tinyurl.com/9tcsc6
>>
> Lois is SERIOUS jailbait. You do realize that she's only 10 years old?
> This almost gets us back on topic...
You need to develop catholic tastes.
Fred Fredburger
Little "c" or big "C"? It works either way.
Howard Kveck
Fred Fredburger <Fred.Fr...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
She looked twelve to me. How was I s'posed to know?
invasiv...@gmail.com
<Fred.Fredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:
> Donald Munro wrote:
> > Howard Kveck wrote:
> >>> Betty Rubble was way hotter. But Lois from "Family Guy" is the one to
>
> > Fred Fredburger wrote:
> >> Lois is SERIOUS jailbait. You do realize that she's only 10 years old?
> >> This almost gets us back on topic...
>
> > You need to develop catholic tastes.
>
> Little "c" or big "C"? It works either way.
big C? 1554. newbies.
little c would hearken back to the Hellenic
katholikos, and thus a perfect fit, if Lois were
male.