Who makes how many jerseys?
Dave
When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the rider's
team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....
1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for each
day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow over an existng one
on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also think I saw one
year a stack of yellow's in the back of a truck where they took the one off
the top to give to Lance for that day.
2) Who makes those jerseys? Are the teams responsible? Or do the tour
organizers do it?
3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any possibility of the
permutations of riders, number of days, teams etc so they don't run out if
some unexpected results happen (what, 4 types of jersey, times (I think) 21
teams, times (on an average year) 21 stages adds up to a heck of a lot of
clothing that can go unused) This does not even go into worrying about the
right size for riders.
4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?
Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was just wondering if
anyone knew these logistics....
Dave
TM
"Dave" <thema...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> So I've always wondered this....
>
> When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the
rider's
> team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....
>
> 1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for
each
> day?
Yes.
>
> 2) Who makes those jerseys?
Nike.
>
> 3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any possibility of the
They iron the logos on after the stage has been decided.
>
> 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?
>
There are none.
vern
> 1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for
each
> day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow over an existng
one
> on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also think I saw one
> year a stack of yellow's in the back of a truck where they took the one
off
> the top to give to Lance for that day.
The podium jersey is just for the cameras, so yes if the rider of the stage
is in yellow he will be given another jellow jersey to put on. You'll also
see a big (stick on) logo of the riders team sponsor that isn't on the true
race day jersey. Again for the sponsor billboard. I don't think you would
want to ride with the podium jersey on, it's made very big to fit any
possible rider size and would catch a ton on wind. For the rider the next
day they have a bunch of jerseys in all sizes (just like you see advertised
for us mortals to buy (for a price).
Jonathan v.d. Sluis
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> So I've always wondered this....
>
> When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the
rider's
> team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....
>
> 1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for
each
> day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow over an existng
one
> on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also think I saw one
> year a stack of yellow's in the back of a truck where they took the one
off
> the top to give to Lance for that day.
They get a new set each day. If I'm not mistaken, each set contains a long-
and a short-sleeved jersey, as well as a TT suit.
>
> 2) Who makes those jerseys? Are the teams responsible? Or do the tour
> organizers do it?
The tour organizers have large stickers, with the team sponsors on them,
that can be pressed on the jerseys very quickly. They prepare them before
the award ceremony when it's clear who is going to wear the jerseys.
>
> 3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any possibility of the
> permutations of riders, number of days, teams etc so they don't run out if
> some unexpected results happen (what, 4 types of jersey, times (I think)
21
> teams, times (on an average year) 21 stages adds up to a heck of a lot of
> clothing that can go unused) This does not even go into worrying about
the
> right size for riders.
The teams do not carry around classification jerseys. They are in possession
of the tour organization until they are awarded.
>
> 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?
You can buy jerseys of all types (yellow, green, etc.), in different sizes
ofcourse. I would assume that the winner's jerseys come from that stack, so
it is clear that the surplus is sold. Last year, there was footage after
every stage of the winner signing a stack of jerseys and these are ofcourse
even more interesting to sell.
>
> Yeah, I know, shut up and just enjoy the race. I was just wondering if
> anyone knew these logistics....
>
> Dave
Cyclingnews.com has a useful tour faq. I'm not sure if your questions are
answered there, so here you are. Corrections are welcome ofcourse.
Jonathan.
Carl Sundquist
>
> When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the
rider's
> team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....
>
> 1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for
each
> day?
Yes
> 2) Who makes those jerseys?
Nike
Are the teams responsible?
No
Or do the tour organizers do it?
Yes.
> 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?
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AMG
There was an article about this last year, possibly in the NY Times. There
is a van that comes along with the tour, with a guy who slaps the winner's
logos on appropriate-colored jerseys for each stage. So I guess he has a
supply of plain yellow, green, white and polka-dot jerseys in different
sizes, plus a stack of sponsor logos. Dunno whether the podium jerseys,
which seem to zip up the back, are the same as the ones worn the next day
during the ride, and I forget whether the article mentioned whether the
logos were iron-on, but I doubt that he sits there with a sewing machine.
AMG
Dave
job. And some of the other posts mentioned the podium jersey zipping up the
back; I had completely forgotten abut that.
Dave
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vern
>
> There was an article about this last year, possibly in the NY Times. There
> is a van that comes along with the tour, with a guy who slaps the winner's
> logos on appropriate-colored jerseys for each stage. So I guess he has a
> supply of plain yellow, green, white and polka-dot jerseys in different
> sizes, plus a stack of sponsor logos.
Nope just one size fits all.
>Dunno whether the podium jerseys, which seem to zip up the back, are the
same as the ones worn the next day
> during the ride,
Nope, just for the podium "dog and pony" show.
> and I forget whether the article mentioned whether the
> logos were iron-on, but I doubt that he sits there with a sewing machine.
Nope, stick on, just like the numbers on the rider's hips.
vern
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> "Dave" <thema...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> > So I've always wondered this....
> >
>
> > 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?
Well, I'd like to argue for a 1/2 point because I was referring to the non
existant jerseys implied in the question.
For example, the hypothetical USPS prologue yellow jersey that was never
used and does not exist.
>
>
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>
>
Chris
> I kida figured it had to be something like that. Low tech, but does the
> job. And some of the other posts mentioned the podium jersey zipping up
the
> back; I had completely forgotten abut that.
>
> Dave
I do think there are more than one per day and that there are "extra"
jerseys. Back in the day (so to speak) anyone outside of what was considered
the "normal" size range for a "Euro-dog" had to put up with a jersey that
did not fit. These days, I have not seen a poorly fitting jersey in many
years and the ranges of riders these days is far more than ever before. That
is strong evidence to me that there are plenty of extra sizes. They always
have a full Tour's worth for the favorite riders and then they have the
extras. I remember one year Stephen Roche had to wear a massively over-sized
jersey that was tamed with safety pins. It neded up OK in photos if you did
not know what to look for. Back then, the jerseys typically went down a bit
further anyway and the bottom would often sit just above the peak of the
rider's buttocks. Look at most of today's riders and the jersey normally
ends just a few inches below the waist and most of the riders have similar
fitting jerseys. I see more variety in short lengths but that seems to
involve preference more so than jerseys do (which is surprising to me but I
am only observing here).
Chris
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> "Dave" <thema...@bellsouth.net> schreef in bericht
> news:tKxHc.32461$XF5....@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> > So I've always wondered this....
> >
> > When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the
> rider's
> > team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....
> >
> > 1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for
> each
> > day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow over an existng
> one
> > on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also think I saw
one
> > year a stack of yellow's in the back of a truck where they took the one
> off
> > the top to give to Lance for that day.
>
> They get a new set each day. If I'm not mistaken, each set contains a
long-
> and a short-sleeved jersey, as well as a TT suit.
They only get skinsuits on days they may need them. I do think they get a
long and short sleeve as you indicated though along with the podium jersey.
It is funny because the winner normally gives jerseys away to team mates,
politicians, etc and never seems to run out. The really prized jerseys are
those that are actually worn in the race folowed by podium and then jerseys
that were not worn. I would not be surprised at all to find out that the
winner can ask for a few extras for photo ops although I have heard that the
organizers don't want the public to have that impression so I don't know how
they decide which requests from the winer to honor.
Chris
>
> "Carl Sundquist" <car...@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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> > "Dave" <thema...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> > > So I've always wondered this....
> > >
> <snip>
> >
> > > 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?
>
> Well, I'd like to argue for a 1/2 point because I was referring to the non
> existant jerseys implied in the question.
>
> For example, the hypothetical USPS prologue yellow jersey that was never
> used and does not exist.
Why not? I bet Lance gets that one and will keep it to use as he pleases. I
doubt he actually "turned it away". He likely got it but did not use it. He
will give that one to someone he owes a favor to...
>
>
>
> >
> >
>
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> >
>
>
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> > "Carl Sundquist" <car...@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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> > > "Dave" <thema...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > news:tKxHc.32461$XF5....@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> > > > So I've always wondered this....
> > > >
> > <snip>
> > >
> > > > 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?
> >
> > Well, I'd like to argue for a 1/2 point because I was referring to the
non
> > existant jerseys implied in the question.
> >
> > For example, the hypothetical USPS prologue yellow jersey that was never
> > used and does not exist.
>
> Why not? I bet Lance gets that one and will keep it to use as he pleases.
I
> doubt he actually "turned it away". He likely got it but did not use it.
He
> will give that one to someone he owes a favor to...
>
I'll be clearer. Not for the start of the prologue, but for the winner of
the prologue. The op assumed that they made a yellow jersey for every team
for every stage.
Dan Connelly
> I'll be clearer. Not for the start of the prologue, but for the winner of
> the prologue. The op assumed that they made a yellow jersey for every team
> for every stage.
What about winners of other stages? They should at least get a T-shirt or something.
Front: I won stage 9 of the 2004 Tour...
Back: ... and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.
Chris
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(And about 10.000)
zboy
use the podium jersey for anything other then the podium. However, I
like everyone would love to get my mits on one of those jerseys.
K. J. Papai
> news:tKxHc.32461$XF5....@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> > So I've always wondered this....
> >
> > When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the
> rider's
> > team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....
> >
> > 1) If a rider earns the jersey multiple days, is there a new jersey for
> each
> > day? Seems like I've seen Lance pulling on a new yellow over an existng
> one
> > on consecutive stages (previous years, obviously) I also think I saw one
> > year a stack of yellow's in the back of a truck where they took the one
> off
> > the top to give to Lance for that day.
>
> They get a new set each day. If I'm not mistaken, each set contains a long-
> and a short-sleeved jersey, as well as a TT suit.
>
> >
> > 2) Who makes those jerseys? Are the teams responsible? Or do the tour
> > organizers do it?
>
> The tour organizers have large stickers, with the team sponsors on them,
> that can be pressed on the jerseys very quickly. They prepare them before
> the award ceremony when it's clear who is going to wear the jerseys.
>
Wow -- your first non-SPAM post in YEARS!
Thanks, Ken
> >
> > 3) I have to assume there's enough of each to cover any possibility of the
> > permutations of riders, number of days, teams etc so they don't run out if
> > some unexpected results happen (what, 4 types of jersey, times (I think)
> 21
> > teams, times (on an average year) 21 stages adds up to a heck of a lot of
> > clothing that can go unused) This does not even go into worrying about
> the
> > right size for riders.
>
> The teams do not carry around classification jerseys. They are in possession
> of the tour organization until they are awarded.
>
> >
> > 4) What happens to all of those unused jerseys?
For Homeless people if Jonny vds. had his way.
Pistof
Divided between all the team members...
Stewart Fleming
Dave wrote:
> So I've always wondered this....
>
> When someone earns a jersey during the tour, yellow, green, etc, the rider's
> team (main) logo is on the jersey. So with that....
There was an article posted here last year about the man who makes the
tour jerseys. Quite an efficient operation by all accounts. The link
was posted in the newsgroup and you can Google for it if you don't mind
people thinking that you are a stalker or something. This should be in
the FAQ, but we haven't updated that since April 2003 because there has
been more important stuff happening.
John Forrest Tomlinson
Why? What value would a jersey someone else won with no help from you
have?
I have a mountain leaders jersey from a smallish race a teammate won
-- I helped him a little in winning that. _That's_ a cool jersey. For
me.
JT
Bret Wade
They have value as collectors items. I have an autographed climber's
jersey that Jonathon Vaughters wore in le Dauphine Libere. I picked it
up at a silent auction in Denver benefiting the LAF. I never found any
evidence that Vaughters actually led that competition. I think he wore
the jersey while second, when Armstrong was leading both G.C. and the
climbers competition. I've always liked that race even before the
posties did well there and it's not every day that you get a chance to
buy something as unique as that.
BTW, it's a four color sublimated jersey with a white rectangular area
where they ironed on the USPS logo, front and back.
Bret