Does Tour of California matter?
Mike Jacoubowsky
because not much racing is going on.
So what does that mean about the Tour of California? It's not a "real" race
because? Or has it simply been overlooked?
Just trying to get something started about racing, y'know?
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
John Forrest Tomlinson
<Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>People are complaining that there's no discussion of racing going on,
>because not much racing is going on.
>
>So what does that mean about the Tour of California? It's not a "real" race
>because? Or has it simply been overlooked?
>
>Just trying to get something started about racing, y'know?
I can't comment on that, but am hopeful we'll get some ridiculously
high-res photographes from enthusiasts who see it.
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SLAVE of THE STATE
> People are complaining that there's no discussion of racing going on,
> because not much racing is going on.
>
> So what does that mean about the Tour of California? It's not a "real" race
> because? Or has it simply been overlooked?
>
> Just trying to get something started about racing, y'know?
Well I'm hoping it is a real race because I'm going downtown Monday to
watch the finish. I just hope it doesn't rain. Today it was
beautiful weather. I hope it holds out!
But I really want to get out Tuesday on Trinity Grade. That is a rude-
ass climb. (Although there are worse not far away.) I've done it.
Going *down* the other side isn't easy either. Too bad it isn't
closer to the finish.
Tom Kunich
news:1171424029.4...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
Today beautiful? It was freezing ass cold if you were riding. Although it
was a good 15 degrees warmer today than it was a couple of weeks ago, it
actually felt colder when riding because of the high humidity.
Callistus Valerius
> because not much racing is going on.
>
> So what does that mean about the Tour of California? It's not a "real"
race
> because? Or has it simply been overlooked?
>
> Just trying to get something started about racing, y'know?
>
who won?
Diablo Scott
> People are complaining that there's no discussion of racing going on,
> because not much racing is going on.
>
> So what does that mean about the Tour of California? It's not a "real" race
> because? Or has it simply been overlooked?
>
> Just trying to get something started about racing, y'know?
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
It'll matter to the fans about as much as it matters to the racers. I
think we're past the point of being ecstatic to see riders like Bettini
and Simoni just show up and let the locals fight it out. It's OK with
me if Leipheimer or Zabriskie wins, but if all the other big names treat
it as a vacation it'll never "matter" on the calendar.
Kurgan Gringioni
What is it worth in UCI points?
That's what makes races matter.
hiza...@yahoo.com
It gives a good basis to for a bigger Tour hopefully. It's too bad
however that the Tour of California is taking off when all this drug
controversy is going on. It will take cycling awhile to recover from
all of this.
On Feb 13, 10:21 pm, Diablo Scott <diabloscottN0S...@terra.es> wrote:
Dan Connelly
> What is it worth in UCI points?
>
> That's what makes races matter.
>
>
Professional racing is a marketing enterprise. Many factors go into the
success of a race. UCI points are just one motivator for rider success.
But in the end, the real issue is the ability of riders to draw
positive exposure to products and services.
A key to the success of a race is fan interest. People need to get out
and participate. I hope folks reading this within striking distance of
the race don't adopt the "it's better on TV" approach. Get out there
and be a part of it! Even a 5-second live view is better than a
50-minute view of glowing LCDs or flipping mirrors.
Other events, too, like the hillclimb on Saturday:
http://www.sanjoseca.gov/kingofthemountain.html
Saturday night is a pre-race event @ City Cycle:
http://www.citycycle.com/
Sunday night is a Floyd Landis event, for those who are interested:
http://www.floydfairnessfund.org/
The Sunday night LeMond-Liggett event on the 1989 Tour de France is sold
out....
Dan
Mike Jacoubowsky
> http://www.floydfairnessfund.org/
Dan: Do you have more info on the Floyd Landis event? I could only find a
small reference to it on their website, with a link to the venue, but no
mention on the venue's site about it.
Thanks-
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
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Dan Connelly
I wrote:
>> Sunday night is a Floyd Landis event, for those who are interested:
>> http://www.floydfairnessfund.org/
>
> Dan: Do you have more info on the Floyd Landis event? I could only find a
> small reference to it on their website, with a link to the venue, but no
> mention on the venue's site about it.
taken from an email on the subject:
------------
Greetings:
Some of you may recall my email from a couple weeks ago regarding a
possible Town Hall Meeting with Floyd Landis in San Francisco. Well,
that meeting day/time/place has been set, and his spokesman has asked if
I can help spread the word a bit, so...
Particulars:
Date: Sunday, Feb. 18 (yes, Prologue day for ToCA)
Time: 7 pm
Locus: Jillian's, Metreon, 4th & Mission, SF
Benefits: the Floyd Fairness Fund (FFF), going toward his defense
For more complete info, such as what's on the program and what
refreshments are included, go to www.floydfairnessfund.org. Those of you
who are on other club lists, such as BBC, if you can forward this
message to those lists, that would be great as well. Thanks for reading
it. Ciao.
Mike Jacoubowsky
> Date: Sunday, Feb. 18 (yes, Prologue day for ToCA)
> Time: 7 pm
> Locus: Jillian's, Metreon, 4th & Mission, SF
> Benefits: the Floyd Fairness Fund (FFF), going toward his defense
Why, why, WHY did they schedule it for the same time as the LeMond gig? I'd
love to attend the Floyd Landis town hall. Dang. Even sent the guy a
Christmas Card.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
"Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@y_a_h_o_o_._c_o_m> wrote in message
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Howard Kveck
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> People are complaining that there's no discussion of racing going on,
> because not much racing is going on.
>
> So what does that mean about the Tour of California? It's not a "real" race
> because? Or has it simply been overlooked?
>
> Just trying to get something started about racing, y'know?
I can tell you that there were at least three teams training in the foothills
around Gilroy and Morgan Hill yesterday.
--
tanx,
Howard
Never take a tenant with a monkey.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
SLAVE of THE STATE
> "SLAVE of THE STATE" <gwh...@ti.com> wrote in
> > Today it was beautiful weather.
> Today beautiful? It was freezing ass cold if you were riding.
I took off my shirt for the ladies.
I was born and raised in the Land of Lake Effect Snow. It is
downright balmy here.
Did you know Lake Effect Snow is caused 40% by the war in iraq, and
60% by global warming?
Tom Kunich
news:1171502264.9...@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
Yes, I've also discovered that world terrorism is a direct result of global
warming. Those Muslim extremists are really mad that we're destroying their
nice clean deserts with our warmth.
Donald Munro
> Those Muslim extremists are really mad that we're destroying their
> nice clean deserts with our warmth.
Actually we're creating more deserts.
Tom Kunich
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Did you think that growing crops with irrigration would come for free?
dbrower
alternative for those who otherwise can't decide.
Details: http://trustbut.blogspot.com/2007/02/landisfff-san-jose-weds-
feb-21.html
-dB
> > refreshments are included, go towww.floydfairnessfund.org. Those of you
jeff...@gmail.com
Alto Bicycles:
http://www.paloaltobicycles.com/events.html
Although the web site does not mention it, they ran an ad in
yesterday's Palo Alto Weekly indicating you need to call for
reservations. It looks like the event is free.
Fred Fredburger
I think you have "Lake Effect Snow" confused with "Nov. 2006 election
results".
Must be a momentary confusion. I noticed that, in another thread, you
(quite sensibly) placed the responsibility for all this with "assbags".
I think we can all agree to that, so long as we're not too picky about
which particular assbags.
b...@mambo.ucolick.org
If we don't stand up and fight the lakes in Iraq,
eventually we will have to fight them here. Do you
want a future in which illegal lakes are swarming
into America to commit terrorist acts of weather?
Ben
Bret
I have something in common with Bettini. We both like to race bicyles
during our vacations.
Bret