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Bob Martin  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 2:11 pm
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
From: Bob Martin <bob.mar...@excite.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:11:52 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 2:11 pm
Subject: Tour de France, stage 16 summary

Changes in stage 16 compared to stage 15

Biggest gainers by position :
      +46   Stéphane Augé
      +35   Giampaolo Cheula
      +32   Félix Rafael Cardenas Ravalo
      +26   Lilian Jégou
      +21   Christophe Rinero
      +20   José Vicente Garcia Acosta
      +18   José Luis Arrieta Lujambio
      +18   David De La Fuente Rasilla
      +17   Frederik Willems
      +16   Michael Albasini

Biggest losers by position :
       -9   Markus Fothen
       -8   Kanstantin Siutsou
       -8   Ludovic Turpin
       -5   John Gadret
       -4   Christian Knees
       -4   Christophe Moreau
       -4   Fabian Wegmann
       -3   Jérôme Pineau
       -3   Laurent Lefevre
       -2   Denis Menchov
       -1   Axel Merckx

Biggest gainers by time :

Biggest losers by time :
   -42:49   Grischa Niermann
   -42:49   Pieter Weening
   -42:19   Juan Antonio Flecha Giannoni
   -42:09   Alessandro Cortinovis
   -42:09   Alexander Efimkin
   -42:09   Andry Grivko
   -42:09   Anthony Charteau
   -42:09   Anthony Geslin
   -42:09   Axel Merckx
   -42:09   Benjamin Noval Gonzalez
   -42:09   Benoît Salmon

Favourites by position :
       +9   Marzio Bruseghin
       +7   Fabian Cancellara
       +6   Sylvain Chavanel
       +4   Tadej Valjavec
       +4   Iban Mayo Diez
       +4   Frank Schleck
       +4   Alejandro Valverde Belmonte
       +3   Yaroslav Popovych
       +3   Iñigo Cuesta Lopez De Castro
       +2   Michael Boogerd
       +2   George Hincapie
       +2   Dario David Cioni
       +1   Oscar Pereiro Sio
       +1   Manuel Beltran Martinez
       +1   Kim Kirchen
       +1   Haimar Zubeldia Agirre
       +1   Carlos Sastre Candil
       -2   Denis Menchov
       -4   Christophe Moreau

Favourites by time :
    -0:34   Levi Leipheimer
    -0:47   Alberto Contador Velasco
    -1:03   Cadel Evans
    -2:12   Haimar Zubeldia Agirre
    -2:26   Carlos Sastre Candil
    -2:47   Oscar Pereiro Sio
    -2:47   Alejandro Valverde Belmonte
    -3:31   Yaroslav Popovych
    -5:02   Frank Schleck
    -5:52   Michael Boogerd
    -6:22   Kim Kirchen
    -6:24   Iban Mayo Diez
    -6:56   Manuel Beltran Martinez
    -7:35   Tadej Valjavec
    -9:10   Vladimir Karpets
    -9:33   Sylvain Chavanel
   -10:31   Marzio Bruseghin
   -17:28   George Hincapie
   -18:50   Denis Menchov
   -23:49   Iñigo Cuesta Lopez De Castro
   -29:40   Dario David Cioni
   -42:09   Juan Miguel Mercado Martin
   -42:09   Fabian Cancellara
   -42:09   Christophe Moreau

Top 3 and favourites standings :
        1  Michael Rasmussen                          76.15.15
        2  Alberto Contador Velasco                       3.10
        3  Cadel Evans                                    5.03
        4  Levi Leipheimer                                5.59
        5  Carlos Sastre Candil                           9.12
        6  Haimar Zubeldia Agirre                         9.39
        7  Alejandro Valverde Belmonte                   13.28
        8  Kim Kirchen                                   14.46
        9  Yaroslav Popovych                             16.00
        .....
       12  Oscar Pereiro Sio                             17.17
        .....
       14  Iban Mayo Diez                                25.24
        .....
       16  Vladimir Karpets                              27.37
       17  Michael Boogerd                               31.00
       18  Frank Schleck                                 31.48
       19  Manuel Beltran Martinez                       32.58
       20  Tadej Valjavec                                36.31
        .....
       23  Denis Menchov                                 45.15
        .....
       26  Sylvain Chavanel                              50.08
        .....
       29  George Hincapie                               57.45
        .....
       40  Christophe Moreau                           1.32.30
        .....
       45  Marzio Bruseghin                            1.37.02
        .....
       53  Iñigo Cuesta Lopez De Castro                1.55.08
        .....
       60  Dario David Cioni                           2.06.52
        .....
       82  Juan Miguel Mercado Martin                  2.40.56
        .....
      110  Fabian Cancellara                           3.15.32

Retirements to date :
    AG2r Prévoyance                         Cyril Dessel
       "                                    Sylvain Calzati
    Agritubel                               Cédric Hervé
       "                                    Eduardo Gonzalo Ramirez
       "                                    Romain Feillu
    Astana                                  Alexandre Vinokourov
       "                                    Andreas Klöden
       "                                    Andrey Kashechkin
       "                                    Antonio Colom Mas
       "                                    Daniel Navarro Garcia
       "                                    Grégory Rast
       "                                    Maxim Iglinskiy
       "                                    Paolo Savoldelli
       "                                    Serguei Ivanov
    Barloworld                              Enrico Degano
    Bouygues Telecom                        Matthieu Sprick
       "                                    Stef Clement
    Caisse d'Epargne                        Xabier Zandio Echaide
    Cofidis - Le Crédit par Téléphone       Geoffroy Lequatre
       "                                    Ivan Ramiro Parra Pinto
    Crédit Agricole                         Christophe Le Mével
    Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team      Tomas Vaitkus
    Euskaltel - Euskadi                     Igor Anton Hernandez
    Française des Jeux                      Philippe Gilbert
       "                                    Rémy Di Grégorio
    Lampre - Fondital                       Danilo Napolitano
    Liquigas                                Filippo Pozzato
    Predictor - Lotto                       Fred Rodriguez
       "                                    Robbie McEwen
    Rabobank                                Oscar Freire Gomez
    Saunier Duval - Prodir                  Francisco José Ventoso Alberdi
       "                                    Ruben Lobato Elvira
    T-Mobile Team                           Mark Cavendish
       "                                    Michael Rogers
       "                                    Patrik Sinkewitz
    Team CSC                                David Zabriskie
       "                                    Stuart O'Grady
    Team Milram                             Alberto Ongarato
       "                                    Brett Lancaster
 Total retirements : 39


 
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William Asher  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 3:12 pm
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From: William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com>
Date: 25 Jul 2007 19:12:36 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: Tour de France, stage 16 summary

Bob Martin wrote:

<snip>

Could you add in some code to figure out how the standings would change if
the favorites were disqualified for doping?  You know, redo the time
bonuses and such?  That would be a big help in sorting all this out.

Thanks.

--
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Hell and High Water  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 3:16 pm
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From: Hell and High Water <tifoso...@OVEcomcast.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:16:30 -0500
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 3:16 pm
Subject: Re: Tour de France, stage 16 summary
In article <Xns99787C2893DEEFkldel...@130.133.1.4>, gcn...@yahoo.com
says...

> Bob Martin wrote:

> <snip>

> Could you add in some code to figure out how the standings would change if
> the favorites were disqualified for doping?  You know, redo the time
> bonuses and such?  That would be a big help in sorting all this out.

Who should he remove?

I vote for all of 'em up to Pozzato!

-Bob H


 
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William Asher  
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 More options Jul 25 2007, 3:54 pm
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From: William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com>
Date: 25 Jul 2007 19:54:24 GMT
Local: Wed, Jul 25 2007 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: Tour de France, stage 16 summary
Hell and High Water wrote:

I had in mind a series of lists showing how the standings would change if
one or another in the top ten were DQ at that stage.  Bandwidth is cheap.

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Bill Asher


 
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Ryan Cousineau  
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 More options Jul 26 2007, 1:00 am
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From: Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:00:21 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jul 26 2007 1:00 am
Subject: Re: Tour de France, stage 16 summary
In article <InMpi.2987$S91....@newsfe7-win.ntli.net>,
 Bob Martin <bob.mar...@excite.com> wrote:

> Changes in stage 16 compared to stage 15

> Biggest gainers by position :
>       +46   Stéphane Augé
>       +35   Giampaolo Cheula
>       +32   Félix Rafael Cardenas Ravalo
>       +26   Lilian Jégou

Bob: these are beautiful. But you need to do one for today's rest day.
It was the most active day of the Tour so far.

--
Ryan Cousineau rcous...@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos


 
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Bob Martin  
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 More options Jul 26 2007, 3:26 am
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From: Bob Martin <bob.mar...@excite.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:26:07 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jul 26 2007 3:26 am
Subject: Re: Tour de France, stage 16 summary
in 550043 20070725 201236 William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Bob Martin wrote:

><snip>

>Could you add in some code to figure out how the standings would change if
>the favorites were disqualified for doping?  You know, redo the time
>bonuses and such?  That would be a big help in sorting all this out.

>Thanks.

>--
>Bill Asher

I'll think about it ;-)

I want to know why the Lanterne Rouge isn't tested every day.


 
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Donald Munro  
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 More options Jul 26 2007, 4:34 am
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From: Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:34:11 +0200
Local: Thurs, Jul 26 2007 4:34 am
Subject: Re: Tour de France, stage 16 summary

Bob Martin wrote:
> I'll think about it ;-)

> I want to know why the Lanterne Rouge isn't tested every day.

They forgot the marijuana testing kit at home ?

 
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 More options Jul 26 2007, 5:17 pm
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From: William Asher <gcn...@yahoo.com>
Date: 26 Jul 2007 21:17:56 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jul 26 2007 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: Tour de France, stage 16 summary

Bob Martin wrote:

<snip>

> I want to know why the Lanterne Rouge isn't tested every day.

Nobody wants to wait that long for him to finish.  

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