Valverde out
jj1075
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Tom Kunich
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> Not the year for Spanish cycling or its fans.
But it's sure looking like a great year for another American win.
John Forrest Tomlinson
>collar bone
Ouch, that's gotta hurt. And I don't mean the broken bone.
JT
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which does not bode well for his future prospects. That's two straight
TdFs from which he has had to withdraw due to accidents.
jj1075 wrote:
> collar bone
>
> jj1075
Michael Press
<1152066272....@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Gunsberg" <guns...@kasparovchess.com> wrote:
> Valverde is starting to seem more accident prone than Tyler Hamilton,
> which does not bode well for his future prospects. That's two straight
> TdFs from which he has had to withdraw due to accidents.
That settles it. Hincapie wins GC.
Am I the only one watching the team classification? It's
the usual suspects.
--
Michael Press
b...@mambo.ucolick.org
> Valverde is starting to seem more accident prone than Tyler Hamilton,
> which does not bode well for his future prospects. That's two straight
> TdFs from which he has had to withdraw due to accidents.
Valverde's not Tyler Hamilton. He's the new Jonathan Vaughters.
That's good news - it means he's clean, of course.
Ben
I know 'em when I see 'em.
Kurgan Gringioni
Michael Press wrote:
> In article
> <1152066272....@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Gunsberg" <guns...@kasparovchess.com> wrote:
>
> > Valverde is starting to seem more accident prone than Tyler Hamilton,
> > which does not bode well for his future prospects. That's two straight
> > TdFs from which he has had to withdraw due to accidents.
>
> That settles it. Hincapie wins GC.
Dumbass -
Don't be so sure. There's Landis, Leipheimer, Rogers, Rasmussen, Evans
left. Even his own teamate, Azevedo, has climbed better than GH in the
TdF.
That said, things are looking pretty good for the English speaking
contingent.
thanks,
K. Gringioni.
Mark
> Valverde is starting to seem more accident prone than Tyler Hamilton,
> which does not bode well for his future prospects. That's two straight
> TdFs from which he has had to withdraw due to accidents.
I thought it was knee strain or tendonitis or something like that last year.
Mark
Ewoud Dronkert
>> That settles it. Hincapie wins GC.
>
>left. Even his own teamate, Azevedo, has climbed better than GH in the
>TdF.
Why is Vuelta winner Menchov never mentioned in any contendah lists?
Also see http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2006/tour06/
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E. Dronkert
Simon Brooke
('firs...@lastname.net.invalid') wrote:
He's not American. You're only allowed to name Americans as contenders on
this group.
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;; it isn't furry.
Kurgan Gringioni
Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> On 4 Jul 2006 21:07:50 -0700, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
> >> That settles it. Hincapie wins GC.
> >
> >Don't be so sure. There's Landis, Leipheimer, Rogers, Rasmussen, Evans
> >left. Even his own teamate, Azevedo, has climbed better than GH in the
> >TdF.
>
> Why is Vuelta winner Menchov never mentioned in any contendah lists?
Dumbass -
Oh ya, Menchov.
There's Mayo too, but neither one of those guys have been wonderful in
the TT.
thanks,
K. Gringioni.
Robert Chung
>>> Don't be so sure. There's Landis, Leipheimer, Rogers, Rasmussen, Evans
>>> left. Even his own teamate, Azevedo, has climbed better than GH in the
>>> TdF.
>>
>> Why is Vuelta winner Menchov never mentioned in any contendah lists?
>
> He's not American. You're only allowed to name Americans as contenders
> on this group.
Rogers, Rasmussen, and Evans are Americans?
Jan
He hit his knee on his cycle last year.
Jan
Sandy
Robert Chung
Rasmussen?
Ewoud Dronkert
> He hit his knee on his cycle last year.
Valverde is a woman?!
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E. Dronkert
Sandy
winner will get adopted. Or have democracy reestablished. Or become a
guest at Guantanamo.
Jan
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 09:19:45 +0100, Jan wrote:
>> He hit his knee on his cycle last year.
>
> Valverde is a woman?!
Wouldn't that have read "SHE hit HER knee DURING HER cycle last year"?
;-)
Jan
Donald Munro
>> Rasmussen?
Sandy wrote:
> Gee whiz, you're picky. The empire isn't that picky. Anyway, any
> winner will get adopted. Or have democracy reestablished. Or become a
> guest at Guantanamo.
Rasmussen would be good at hunger striking anyway.
Ron Ruff
Donald Munro wrote:
> Rasmussen would be good at hunger striking anyway.
It isn't so good if you die of starvation after missing one meal...
Ron Ruff
Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
> Why is Vuelta winner Menchov never mentioned in any contendah lists?
No... the winner will be some young domestic that nobody has thought
of, who gets in a (typically doomed) breakaway, after which the rest of
the peleton is delayed for 3 hrs when a train crashes in the middle of
the road, emitting toxic gases (etc).
Or maybe Boonan will accidentally win the overall while going for the
green jersey. Of course he will get the green and spotted jerseys as
well. Eyebrows will rise when it is discovered that his hematocrit has
gone from 38 to 49.99... but hell, we need a hero in the worst way...
John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
Well, their native language is American I think.
Sandy
Donald Munro
>>Rogers, Rasmussen, and Evans are Americans?
John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> Well, their native language is American I think.
Sioux or Apache ?
Robert Chung
> John Forrest Tomlinson a écrit :
>> Well, their native language is American I think.
> Did you forget a wink-wink smiley there ?
Why would he need one?
Jonathan v.d. Sluis
news:1152071721....@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
Seriously - was Vaughters really that talented?
RonSonic
Rasmussen is an alien, so that's kinda the same. The others speak English, sort
of, so that makes them virtual Americans.
Boy, the dumb questions you get around here.
Ron
b...@mambo.ucolick.org
this years Vuelta). I'm disappointed for Erik Dekker, who crashed
out - sounds like a nesty faceplant - of what was said to be his last
Tour. Dekker has been one of the most entertaining riders of the
past decade or so, even when hampered by injury.
Simon Brooke
('leu...@frreee.fr') wrote:
> John Forrest Tomlin son a écrit :
>> On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 10:15:01 +0200, "Robert Chung" <m...@address.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Simon Brooke wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Don't be so sure. There's Landis, Leipheimer, Rogers, Rasmussen,
>>>>>> Evans left. Even his own teamate, Azevedo, has climbed better than
>>>>>> GH in the TdF.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why is Vuelta winner Menchov never mentioned in any contendah
>>>>> lists?
>>>>>
>>>> He's not American. You're only allowed to name Americans as
>>>> contenders on this group.
>>>>
>>> Rogers, Rasmussen, and Evans are Americans?
>>>
>> Well, their native language is American I think.
>>
> Did you forget a wink-wink smiley there ?
Smileys are for colonials. Those of us from Old Europe wouldn't stoop to
them.
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Robert Chung
>>>> Rogers, Rasmussen, and Evans are Americans?
>>>>
>>> Well, their native language is American I think.
>>>
>> Did you forget a wink-wink smiley there ?
>
> Smileys are for colonials. Those of us from Old Europe wouldn't stoop to
> them.
JT is from Old Europe?
b...@mambo.ucolick.org
> "b...@mambo.ucolick.org" <b...@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote :
> > Gunsberg wrote:
> >
> > Valverde's not Tyler Hamilton. He's the new Jonathan Vaughters.
> >
> > That's good news - it means he's clean, of course.
> >
> > Ben
> > I know 'em when I see 'em.
>
> Seriously - was Vaughters really that talented?
Let's be fair to Vaughters - we can't attribute his record of never
finishing the Tour to a talent for not finishing. He had to rely on
luck for some of it, notably the bee-sting incident.
If you're asking was Vaughters as talented as Valverde, I would
guess no. That's not what I meant to imply by making the comparison.
JV seems to have exited gracefully and to be doing fairly well at
running a developmental team though.
Robert Chung
Vaughters held the Ventoux record for five years. That seems north of the
Millar line.
Ryan Cousineau
"Robert Chung" <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
THe correct term is "Anglospherical".
Surprisingly Anglospheric given my surname,
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to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
Bob Martin
He can have honorary membership (if he wants it!).
Simon Brooke
Cousineau ('rcou...@sfu.ca') wrote:
> In article <4h1aonF...@individual.net>,
> "Robert Chung" <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Simon Brooke wrote:
>>
>> >>> Don't be so sure. There's Landis, Leipheimer, Rogers, Rasmussen,
>> >>> Evans left. Even his own teamate, Azevedo, has climbed better than
>> >>> GH in the TdF.
>> >>
>> >> Why is Vuelta winner Menchov never mentioned in any contendah
>> >> lists?
>> >
>> > He's not American. You're only allowed to name Americans as
>> > contenders on this group.
>>
>> Rogers, Rasmussen, and Evans are Americans?
>
> THe correct term is "Anglospherical".
>
> Surprisingly Anglospheric given my surname,
So you're really Nothing Watercousin?
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Ryan Cousineau
Simon Brooke <si...@jasmine.org.uk> wrote:
> in message <rcousine-EA596E...@news.telus.net>, Ryan
> Cousineau ('rcou...@sfu.ca') wrote:
>
> > In article <4h1aonF...@individual.net>,
> > "Robert Chung" <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> Simon Brooke wrote:
> >>
> >> >>> Don't be so sure. There's Landis, Leipheimer, Rogers, Rasmussen,
> >> >>> Evans left. Even his own teamate, Azevedo, has climbed better than
> >> >>> GH in the TdF.
> >> >>
> >> >> Why is Vuelta winner Menchov never mentioned in any contendah
> >> >> lists?
> >> >
> >> > He's not American. You're only allowed to name Americans as
> >> > contenders on this group.
> >>
> >> Rogers, Rasmussen, and Evans are Americans?
> >
> > THe correct term is "Anglospherical".
> >
> > Surprisingly Anglospheric given my surname,
>
> So you're really Nothing Watercousin?
If it was spelled "Rien", perhaps. As it is, I am a prince among men.
And not the dumb kind of prince, the kind that falls for a horse-faced
older woman, but the kind of prince that gets to marry a woman like
Grace Kelly. Yeah.
Bob Martin
>In article <civun3-...@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk>,
>Simon Brooke <si...@jasmine.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> in message <rcousine-EA596E...@news.telus.net>, Ryan
>> Cousineau ('rcou...@sfu.ca') wrote:
>>
>> > In article <4h1aonF...@individual.net>,
>> > "Robert Chung" <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Simon Brooke wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >>> Don't be so sure. There's Landis, Leipheimer, Rogers, Rasmussen,
>> >> >>> Evans left. Even his own teamate, Azevedo, has climbed better than
>> >> >>> GH in the TdF.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why is Vuelta winner Menchov never mentioned in any contendah
>> >> >> lists?
>> >> >
>> >> > He's not American. You're only allowed to name Americans as
>> >> > contenders on this group.
>> >>
>> >> Rogers, Rasmussen, and Evans are Americans?
>> >
>> > THe correct term is "Anglospherical".
>> >
>> > Surprisingly Anglospheric given my surname,
>>
>> So you're really Nothing Watercousin?
>
>If it was spelled "Rien", perhaps. As it is, I am a prince among men.
>
>And not the dumb kind of prince, the kind that falls for a horse-faced
>older woman, but the kind of prince that gets to marry a woman like
>Grace Kelly. Yeah.
Were you once a frog (of the amphibian kind) ?
Curtis L. Russell
wrote:
>And not the dumb kind of prince, the kind that falls for a horse-faced
>older woman, but the kind of prince that gets to marry a woman like
>Grace Kelly. Yeah.
Good for you. Not so good for Grace Kelly.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
Donald Munro
>>And not the dumb kind of prince, the kind that falls for a horse-faced
>>older woman, but the kind of prince that gets to marry a woman like
>>Grace Kelly. Yeah.
Curtis L. Russell wrote:
> Good for you. Not so good for Grace Kelly.
Only if he's into necrophilia.
Ryan Cousineau
Bob Martin <bob.m...@excite.com> wrote:
You've been talking to my wife, haven't you?
Ewoud Dronkert
> this years Vuelta). I'm disappointed for Erik Dekker, who crashed
> out - sounds like a nesty faceplant - of what was said to be his last
> Tour. Dekker has been one of the most entertaining riders of the
> past decade or so, even when hampered by injury.
Here's a recent picture of Dekker leaving the hospital:
http://www.erikdekker.nl/vergroting.php?foto=dekker_84212a.jpg&id=285
Awful.
You may want to wish him well in the guest book
http://www.erikdekker.nl/gastenboek_formulier.htm
(old messages http://www.erikdekker.nl/gastenboek_compleet.php).
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E. Dronkert