Anthony Orsan RIP
GoneBeforeMyTime
http://www.gonews.it/articolo_44072_morto-Anthony-Orsani-promessa-ciclismo-casa-nostra.html
22/11/2009
Translation Google..
Anthony Orsan, the promise of cycling home.
The boy, 18 years still to accomplish, was training on a bicycle. It 'been
run over by a car on the provincial Mercatale.
Tragedy this morning on the provincial Mercatale, in Vinci. Anthony Orsan,
18 years to be made on 2 December, the promise of cycling home, was knocked
down and killed by a car, a Fiat Panda, while training in riding his
bicycle. Orsan, a native of Castelmartini, ran this year with the amateurs
of Mastromarco, but many remember him for the past Gs Stabbia, local
training which saw him win numerous trophies.
Orsan was a promise of cycling: it is devoted to the sport full time, and
this year it was ranked in 18th place in the national ranking for the junior
category, capturing 3 wins, 2 second places, third, fourth and fifth. On 20
June there was Lauer Italian time trial champion, who was going strong in
specialties. Among her most beautiful and important victories are also
recalls the 2007 Gold Cup, the trophy of sports director. With the jersey of
the Italian national team had participated in the European Championship in
Belgium in early July and had been summoned for the World Cup in Russia in
August, but she had not participated for a disagreement with the coach. What
Orsane is a tragedy that strikes the small community of Castelmartini, in
the province of Pistoia, but also and especially the world of two wheels.
Hundreds of messages of condolence, but also dismay, all specialized sites.
Also on Facebook, the world's most popular social network, the news is
circulating for several hours and dozens of friends and colleagues, who are
still unable to comprehend what has happened.
Orsan died doing what he loved to do more cycling. And 'who died while
training along with peers. E 'morto a fatality. Transported immediately to
St. Joseph to Empoli - have taken place on the resources of the Mercy of
Empoli and Vinci - Anthony is gone after a few minutes from his arrival at
the emergency room. To reconstruct the dynamics we have thought the police
of Empoli and Vinci: it was a frontal crash along a straight stretch of road
of Mercatale, near Vinci, between the cyclist and the car, which was
marching towards Empoli while Orsan, along with teammates, was proceeding in
the opposite direction. According to a first reconstruction, the car driven
by two decades of Cerreto Guidi that was injured was returning from a pass.
The group of cyclists, frightened by the operation, has slowed sharply.
Orsan, who was in the rear, to avoid ending up wearing comrades invaded the
opposite lane and ended up wearing the car that came skidding into a ditch
with the front glass is completely broken. Immediate relief by the team
manager of the team, this flagship in the wake of the athletes, Orsan was
not only conscious, but he even attempted to take off his helmet and stand
up. Upon arrival, emergency vehicles, the boy was sedated to prevent sudden
movement, during transport to hospital but his condition became particularly
acute enough to cause death. The incident occurred at around 12.45.
MagillaGorilla
> Anthony Orsan killed training in Tuscany...
> http://www.gonews.it/articolo_44072_morto-Anthony-Orsani-promessa-ciclismo-casa-nostra.html
>
> 22/11/2009
> Translation Google..
>
> Anthony Orsan, the promise of cycling home.
>
> The boy, 18 years still to accomplish, was training on a bicycle. It 'been
> run over by a car on the provincial Mercatale.
>
> <snip>
> According to a first reconstruction, the car driven
> by two decades of Cerreto Guidi that was injured was returning from a pass.
> The group of cyclists, frightened by the operation, has slowed sharply.
> Orsan, who was in the rear, to avoid ending up wearing comrades invaded the
> opposite lane and ended up wearing the car that came skidding into a ditch
> with the front glass is completely broken.
Another cycling spaz who dies due to his Liz Hatch riding skills and then has his lover boy
friends talk about it like it's a tragedy. This wasn't a tragedy or an accident. No. This
was caused by a jackass cyclist who crossed the yellow line and was then hit head-on by a
car. The driver of the car is the true victim. I'm surprised some doping cyclophants in Italy
don't name a crit after him like they did in the U.S. for an isomer act of recklessness and
Liz Hatch riding skills by Garrett Lemire.
Bring it on, bitches. I'm ready to bash your teeth down your fuckin' throat tonight.
Thanks,
Magilla
Matt Chambers
You're a moron and an oxymoron, a coward with violent tendencies.
"MagillaGorilla" <mag...@sandiegozoo.com> wrote in message
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Tom Kunich
news:a8yOm.35298$X01....@newsfe07.iad...
> You're an embarrassment to whatever species you belong to.
>
> You're a moron and an oxymoron, a coward with violent tendencies.
I've settled the problem by putting the idiot on "ignore". I suggest the
same to everyone.
marco
<snip>
That was without a doubt the lowest class thing I've ever seen written in
rbr. Especially that last bit. Magilla, you are a loser.
Scott
No kidding. Some of his posts are mildly amusing, but he has sunk to
even new lows that any right minded person would be ashamed of.
Mark
Lately, he's been sounding like a Nietzschean Superman who has
transcended the messy ethical universe that the rest of us live in.
At least Nietzsche displayed some warmth to his readers in Beyond Good
and Evil because he knew that we were all stuck in this crazy world
together and had to find our way out together...
MagillaGorilla
> You're an embarrassment to whatever species you belong to.
>
> You're a moron and an oxymoron, a coward with violent tendencies.
Okay Marilyn Chambers. Thanks for the advice. I'll change my entire life to mimic your
thoughts, feelings, and attitude. But first I have to beat myself i the head with a fucking
hammer to get my SAT score down to about 950.
Magilla
MagillaGorilla
Only faggots killfile posters in newsgroups. What a gay thing to do.
Magilla
MagillaGorilla
Shut up dickweed. The guy crossed the yellow line. The real victim was the
guy who nearly died because a cyclist came into his lane of travel due to
his own reckless riding Stop acting like you're offended by facts that
neither you nor I can change.
If merely stating facts evokes this much antipathy from you, then so be it.
Magilla
MagillaGorilla
Please point out the sentence in my post that I should be ashamed of. Or do
you expect people to guess?
Thanks,
Magilla
MagillaGorilla
Sounds like you dream of deep-throating van Impe at the crematorium.
Thanks,
Magilla
MagillaGorilla
You sound like one of those philosophy majors in community college who doesn't
amount to anything in real life.
Magilla
GoneBeforeMyTime
"marco" <marco_f...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Actually there might of been one lower quite a while back. That's when a guy
who was a regular poster here got killed on a bike, and someone slammed one
of his family members who chimed in thanking others for the condolences from
other rbr posters. Nothing surprises in rbr, not since the AA days.
Bob Schwartz
> Actually there might of been one lower quite a while back. That's when a guy
> who was a regular poster here got killed on a bike, and someone slammed one
> of his family members who chimed in thanking others for the condolences from
> other rbr posters. Nothing surprises in rbr, not since the AA days.
Dumbass,
You're misremembering that.
Bob Schwartz
Brad Anders
He posts the way he does because it gets the response he wants. You
guys mistakenly believe what he posts here represents anything he'd
actually say to anyone face-to-face. You've got to be kidding. It's
all just a bunch of hot air. Just do what I do, ignore the ridiculous
stuff, and get on with the discussion.
Brad Anders
GoneBeforeMyTime
"Bob Schwartz" <bob.sc...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net> wrote in message
news:SsSdnbeYo6g7eJfW...@giganews.com...
From Schwartzsoft point of view, hardly.
Bob Schwartz
Dumbass,
One of us remembered the reference (the passing of
Keith Alexander) and looked it up to verify your
recall, and is quite certain that you are
misremembering it. One of us didn't.
Bob Schwartz
GoneBeforeMyTime
"Bob Schwartz" <bob.sc...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net> wrote in message
Without quoting the exact incident, I remember and know what I read, end of
story.
Bob Schwartz
> "Bob Schwartz" <bob.sc...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:z7KdncUWfK6TdJfW...@giganews.com...
>> GoneBeforeMyTime wrote:
>>> "Bob Schwartz" <bob.sc...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:SsSdnbeYo6g7eJfW...@giganews.com...
>>>> GoneBeforeMyTime wrote:
>>>>> Actually there might of been one lower quite a while back. That's when
>>>>> a guy who was a regular poster here got killed on a bike, and someone
>>>>> slammed one of his family members who chimed in thanking others for the
>>>>> condolences from other rbr posters. Nothing surprises in rbr, not since
>>>>> the AA days.
>>>> Dumbass,
>>>>
>>>> You're misremembering that.
>>>>
>>>> Bob Schwartz
>>> From Schwartzsoft point of view, hardly.
>> Dumbass,
>>
>> One of us remembered the reference (the passing of
>> Keith Alexander) and looked it up to verify your
>> recall, and is quite certain that you are
>> misremembering it. One of us didn't.
>>
>> Bob Schwartz
>
> Without quoting the exact incident, I remember and know what I read, end of
> story.
Yes, of course, that is the only way you could do it. If you
quoted the exact incident you would realize you had it wrong.
Bob Schwartz
Donald Munro
>>>>> Actually there might of been one lower quite a while back. That's when
>>>>> a guy who was a regular poster here got killed on a bike, and someone
>>>>> slammed one of his family members who chimed in thanking others for the
>>>>> condolences from other rbr posters. Nothing surprises in rbr, not since
>>>>> the AA days.
>>>> Dumbass,
Bob Schwartz wrote:
>> One of us remembered the reference (the passing of
>> Keith Alexander) and looked it up to verify your
>> recall, and is quite certain that you are
>> misremembering it. One of us didn't.
GoneBeforeMyTime wrote:
> Without quoting the exact incident, I remember and know what I read, end of
> story.
This interwebs thingy is wonderful, you can even check your memories:
<http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_frm/thread/ccc0b381656ad2fe/a1b69015c56face3?lnk=gst&q=keith+alexander#a1b69015c56face3>
You misremembered.
GoneBeforeMyTime
Here is how the discussion went in the Italian group. Each paragraph is a
different person's reply. While usually Italian threads are kept very short,
this one was rather long for their group. Note that it's Google translated.
Post and Replies:
Just read on FB, they turned the terrible news. can not die at 18 years in
this absurd way. condolences to the family
Far be it from me to argue, this news saddened the heart like few others,
but I have to point out that the flagship in the streets you must look at
50-100 m from the group, just to "break" the traffic in the opposite
direction, even uphill with winding road can feel even behind that is the
same, but on the open road with the possibility of overtaking cars on the
other side and with the group velocity that makes the car go ahead,
especially if the group is made up of boys ...
FCI National report on the website: The flagship ".................. with
technicians and Carlo Giuseppe Di Fresco Franceschi, had advanced a hundred
yards runners when it happened the tragic accident. A flight tremendous
Orsane but was conscious when the ambulance transported him to the hospital
in Empoli. It 'died in hospital about an hour after his admission.
I offer my condolences in the hope that, for what little they can serve, to
come to the family and the most 'close friends of the poor boy.
to hear the various TG, still seems to happen too many fatal accidents at
the workplace, housing, etc., although they can be observed all the security
features. Cycling for these boys Under is now a real job, and I think that,
as in this case, can be defined as "risks of the job. Then we put the fate
of his, that's clear. It 'almost impossible for a train to go under always
alone, never do the "behind the machine" and then be competitive in the
race. So might as well do rolls from morning to night at home for not taking
risks. The problem is that the greater the traffic in the streets, the
greater intensity and frequency of workouts and in miles driven by the boys,
the more the risk increases. Cmq never as in this case I think we can talk
of "doom".
Let me add, however, 'that last year nearby and' a dead cyclists who had
slipped and was not even writing in a Granfondo in Maremma. E 'release after
being dragged with a competitor.
Certainly know too many other cases of accidents caused by cyclists who 'is
grinding', one against the other. For my part. among friends, I know of at
least three cases in which and 'took no misunderstanding about where to turn
to finish lying on the asphalt.
I think the greatest risk, cycling, and 'just in noon observance of a safe
distance from other cyclists. What, then, are hardly avoidable risks from
those who are training for job and 'unfortunately, equally true.
What makes me afraid, and I avoid it as much as possible, and 'find myself
among a group of' amateurs' that proceed in a reckless manner, taken from
the heat and without the necessary expertise.
It seemed very strange indeed. In that case remains the great sadness
I had the great pleasure of knowing him in person .. it was really a great
boy. could interpret the cycling in the true sense of the word .. a real
joker, and casinos up to 1 minute before the race, and then transformed into
an outstanding athlete. Only a few weeks ago, he and his teammates and my
boys, before the start of a national race, had to mess with the girls in the
country on the bumper cars! Recognize him among a thousand, full of life and
joy. I miss
What absurd death
Yes ... :-( Is the classic case of the devil that puts us in line.
Yes .. at least read the story of the incident happened an incredible series
of unfortunate coincidences. A car that makes a daring overtaking falls, but
the group slows. What was behind that perhaps the only moment of distraction
of the day there is a sudden braking and not to sharpen drops outside, on
the other lane, and go right to make the front with the car that was instead
returned to his lane. But it seems conscious, and instead going to die soon
after in hospital, a death not unlike that of Serse Coppi: - /
If the car was 10 meters back ... if the group had not slowed down so much
... if the boy had been ready and attentive ... or if it was 5 yards behind
... if he had not ruled out so ... if he had hit just as he hit ... Just do
not occur one of these conditions, and would have saved.
It also becomes difficult not to be fatal, in these cases :-(
It is the fragility and randomness of things in our lives. :-( In that
regard it is significant that a maxim runs something like this: "You do not
know where and when you wait for death, but you attendila in any place and
at any time"
The case (bad luck or the ass, as the case in fact) are integral parts of
our lives. How many times "had only a moment that ...". For example, I often
thought about the case of the Italians killed in mid-air collision in the
skies of New York in a small plane and helicopter that was transporting them
to a scenic tour. A woman and her son were saved because he was afraid and
was about to change his mind to his mother. Then went the same heliport but
arrived late and the helicopter was gone. So you are saved, they told all
... or unknowingly have "condemned" the others? To avoid confrontation would
only need a fraction of a second, while it is more than plausible that the
helicopter pilot waited two least a couple of minutes before you leave!
R.I.P. Where did it happen there are long straights and big corners, flat
road but not "them ".... large groups especially on Sunday mornings are like
bullets! us old folks when we round the win at that point shall not be any
less 30 ..... and me who are always on the bottom of the percezzione danger
because of the speed and contingencies is high ... just a nothing and you
are on the ground! think that one morning we saw two boys who were over in a
ditch for a distraction ... and were only a handful of 4 ...
RIP. Sorry because he was known here in Tuscany ... And died for him not to
go to his companions, who avoidable death
I'm sorry, 18 years to do and die like that is really heartbreaking. Add
that that road, I know, should be bombed and rebuilt from scratch, too
dangerous, narrow and with a lot of traffic of trucks and vans.
Roads used by a sea of cyclists, motorists who dare, did not do a crime, was
"the case" Who knows what will prove who has inadvertently caused the
accident, a moment! is always a moment that separates between the normal,
life and death, poor guy ...... poor boy These are moments that make you
think about how much risk we are exposed bike, always! we have no doors, no
protection, if we fall we ko! ever!
GoneBeforeMyTime
"Bob Schwartz" <bob.sc...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net> wrote in message
No, because you are an asshole I don't like to argue with, period.
heather
>
> > According to a first reconstruction, the car driven
> > by two decades of Cerreto Guidi that was injured was returning from a pass.
> > The group of cyclists, frightened by the operation, has slowed sharply.
> > Orsan, who was in the rear, to avoid ending up wearing comrades invaded the
> > opposite lane and ended up wearing the car that came skidding into a ditch
> > with the front glass is completely broken.
>
> was caused by a jackass cyclist who crossed the yellow line and was then hit head-on by a
> car.
I don't speak google-italian very fluently at all, but from the above
quote, it sounds like the car had pulled into the cyclists' lane to
pass another car-perhaps without enough sufficient time to do it
safely, I don't know either way- and so causing "The group of
cyclists, frightened by the operation, (to) slowed sharply." The sharp
slow down caused the boy in the rear to swerve into the other lane in
time to be met by the passing car which had re-entered it's own lane.
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^ <<< << <<CAR
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AO| SLOWING BIKES
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but like the song says "I do my best, but I'm made of mistakes" so I
could be wrong in that interpretation.
h
heather
keyboard diagram, sorry for the repeat.
h
GoneBeforeMyTime
"heather" <cle...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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This is what an Italian group poster said googled out...
Yes .. at least read the story of the incident happened an incredible series
of unfortunate coincidences. A car that makes a daring overtaking falls, but
the group slows. What was behind that perhaps the only moment of distraction
of the day there is a sudden braking and not to sharpen drops outside, on
the other lane, and go right to make the front with the car that was instead
returned to his lane. But it seems conscious, and instead going to die soon
after in hospital, a death not unlike that of Serse Coppi: - /
If the car was 10 meters back ... if the group had not slowed down so much
... if the boy had been ready and attentive ... or if it was 5 yards behind
... if he had not ruled out so ... if he had hit just as he hit ... Just do
not occur one of these conditions, and would have saved.
snip...
In the heat of the moment, you just react sometimes without using the best
judgment, reflex or gut reaction. For instance when I got hit head-on by a
car, I was traveling on my MB bike down a dirt and gravel road. The car came
around the corner and she was already in my lane so I had no where to go. I
couldn't go right cause there were trees there, so my gut reaction was to go
left to avoid her. What I didn't anticipate in the heat of the moment was
that she would already swerve to her right to avoid me, so we swerved into
each other head on. I was spared serious injuries because once my bike
impacted her hood, I went airborne like a guided missile over her car and
into the ditch. As a junior, this young man would not react like a season
professional, and of course a bit of luck always helps.
MagillaGorilla
Yes, I read that as well. But the fatal mistake came when the cyclist crossed the yellow line
into the lane of travel and right of way of the vehicle with which he collided. That the pack
felt they had to slow down does not mean they would have been hit by the passing car...only
that they slowed down to avoid what they perceived MIGHT be a close call.
It's still the cyclist's fault. Knowing how people ride in packs, they probably grabbed their
brakes as hard as they could when it wasn't even necessary, causing an accordian panic.
That's bad riding no matter how you slice it.
Magilla
GoneBeforeMyTime
"GoneBeforeMyTime" <Fa...@EuroFans.com> wrote in message
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This guy also makes a note about the condition of the road which factors
into the tragedy.
Howard Kveck
Bob Schwartz <bob.sc...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net> wrote:
Well, Kunich did try to convince people in here not post anything (condolences,
etc) when Keith died back in July '05. If you go back in the thread, you'll see that
Henry gave his usual "dumbass" and got a bit of heat for it, but not like what
Bruiser is claiming (yes, "misremembering" it).
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/ad5fe166168e426a
Sorry, Bruce, you're wrong. Again. The Great Gazoogle proves it.
--
tanx,
Howard
Caught playing safe
It's a bored game
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
GoneBeforeMyTime
"Howard Kveck" <YOURh...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
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These are some of the most powerful on the market. With the right help from
extrication experts, maybe they could help you pry your head lose from your
lower extremities.
http://www.jawsoflife.com/Main/Content.aspx
Tom Kunich
news:YOURhoward-532DA...@news.giganews.com...
>
> Well, Kunich did try to convince people in here not post anything
> (condolences,
> etc) when Keith died back in July '05. If you go back in the thread,
> you'll see that
> Henry gave his usual "dumbass" and got a bit of heat for it, but not like
> what
> Bruiser is claiming (yes, "misremembering" it).
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/ad5fe166168e426a
>
> Sorry, Bruce, you're wrong. Again. The Great Gazoogle proves it.
You didn't get it then and you didn't get it now. People die all the time.
Are we to spend all of our time discussing the next death? My comments are
to show disrespect but to show them the respect they deserve - which is a
lot of people who don't know the guy personally discussing him as if they
did.
Howard Kveck
"Tom Kunich" <tku...@earthlink.net> wrote:
No, Tom, YOU don't get it. Keith was a regular participant in this forum - part of
the community. It is completely reasonable for other members of that community to
make mention of his passing. Which we were doing. But no, you thought that was dumb
and wanted everyone to shut up about it. Funny, you always seem to cry about how this
group has gone down the tubes because no one has any respect for each other. But you
wanted to stifle the conversation when we were showing respect for a member the group.
Howard Kveck
"GoneBeforeMyTime" <Fa...@EuroFans.com> wrote:
Sure thing, Mr. In Denial. Amit is right, you are the village idiot of this group.
RicodJour
>
> Yes, I read that as well. But the fatal mistake came when the cyclist crossed the yellow line
> into the lane of travel and right of way of the vehicle with which he collided. That the pack
> felt they had to slow down does not mean they would have been hit by the passing car...only
> that they slowed down to avoid what they perceived MIGHT be a close call.
>
> It's still the cyclist's fault. Knowing how people ride in packs, they probably grabbed their
> brakes as hard as they could when it wasn't even necessary, causing an accordian panic.
> That's bad riding no matter how you slice it.
probably
wasn't even necessary
blah woof
assumption, drool
In days gone by you could actually analyze something and make a point.
Now you just want attention, and go about trying to get it in a
pathetic way.
Not funny, not outrageous. You know this, you realize it. Smart
people generally know when they're not living up to their
capabilities. Have you no pride in what you could do?
Soar, man, or get a ghost writer and go do something that will get you
the attention you need.
R
GoneBeforeMyTime
"Howard Kveck" <YOURh...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
> In article <uLCdnYiwhKEk2ZbW...@sti.net>,
> "GoneBeforeMyTime" <Fa...@EuroFans.com> wrote:
>
>> "Howard Kveck" <YOURh...@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
>> news:YOURhoward-532DA...@news.giganews.com...
>>
>> These are some of the most powerful on the market. With the right help
>> from
>> extrication experts, maybe they could help you pry your head lose from
>> your
>> lower extremities.
>> http://www.jawsoflife.com/Main/Content.aspx
>
> Sure thing, Mr. In Denial. Amit is right, you are the village idiot of
> this group.
>
> --
> tanx,
> Howard
You're the village fuckhead.
GoneBeforeMyTime
"Tom Kunich" <tku...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Tom, no use responding to the pack runners, they are all dog-pilers. They
don't really care what the fuck you are talking about, that should be clear
to you.
Barry Taylor
because the great ape is encouraged
by his unwitting disciples
who respond to him
and/or mention/quote him ...
"Tom Kunich" <tku...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Matt Chambers" <mattch...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:a8yOm.35298$X01....@newsfe07.iad...
>> You're an embarrassment to whatever species you belong to.
>>
>> You're a moron and an oxymoron, a coward with violent tendencies.
>
> I've settled the problem by putting the idiot on "ignore". I suggest the
> same to everyone.
>
and pretty please don't quote him either
--
barry j taylor < tayl...@aapt.net.au >
~~~ ~ _@
~~ ~ _- \,
~~ (*)/ (*) . . . bjbear on his treadly
Tom Kunich
>
> Tom, no use responding to the pack runners, they are all dog-pilers. They
> don't really care what the fuck you are talking about, that should be
> clear to you.
You're right of course.
It appears that we're going to have to actually talk about bicycle racing
and ignore everything else.
MagillaGorilla
All I had was a Google translation to work from that read like a drunk Russian 4th grader wrote
it. Because I could not do a forensic reconstruction of the accident, I digressed to just a
standard Samsonite beating.
Magilla
Donald Munro
>> Tom, no use responding to the pack runners, they are all dog-pilers.
>> They don't really care what the fuck you are talking about, that
>> should be clear to you.
Tom Kunich wrote:
> You're right of course.
> It appears that we're going to have to actually talk about bicycle
> racing and ignore everything else.
Dumbass,
Good idea, why don't you two start your own moderated group and moderate
each other; moderation is what the lemon club is all about. After all
you're both consenting adults even though you may not act like it.
GoneBeforeMyTime
"Donald Munro" <no...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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And why don't you go fuck yourself Donald Duck.
Donald Munro
>> After all you're both consenting adults even though you may not act like it.
GoneBeforeMyTime wrote:
> And why don't you go fuck yourself Donald Duck.
I rest my case.
Anton Berlin
> In article <z7KdncUWfK6TdJfWnZ2dnUVZ_smdn...@giganews.com>,
> Bob Schwartz <bob.schwa...@sbcREMOVEglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > GoneBeforeMyTime wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
What was the RBR reaction when Dimebag Darrell of Pantera died? A
moment of silence?
Howard Kveck
Anton Berlin <truth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What was the RBR reaction when Dimebag Darrell of Pantera died? A
> moment of silence?
How many times had Dimebag postedin here by then?
MagillaGorilla
Pantera sucks.
Magilla
Michael Press
"GoneBeforeMyTime" <Fa...@EuroFans.com> wrote:
That's the spirit. Don't take any guff around here.
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Michael Press