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ilan

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Jul 5, 2009, 5:16:05 PM7/5/09
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One thing I've been wondering about: Armstrong states that his
comeback was to publicize cancer awareness but what has he done
regarding Fignon's condition? LF is commentating, seems in pretty good
shape though completely hairless. No mention at all is made of his
condition, though they did thank spectators on the side of the road
today who had a "Courage Fignon" banner without any other commentary.

I'm not sure how Armstrong and Fignon got along in the past, probably
better than Armstrong and Lemond which is not saying much I suppose.

-ilan

Tom Kunich

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Jul 5, 2009, 5:28:48 PM7/5/09
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"ilan" <ila...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I thought that Laurent was the sort of person who didn't want to be in any
limelight. I would suppose that's why Armstrong would take his lead from
Fignon.

Also from what I remember, very few people in the peloton liked LeMond and
just about everyone liked Fignon. It was the press that as usual got
everything bass ackwards.

Keith

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Jul 5, 2009, 5:50:01 PM7/5/09
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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:16:05 -0700 (PDT), ilan <ila...@gmail.com>
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LA was asked about Fignon recently, can't remember if he said he had
called or would call Fignon but he remembered, how couldn't he, that
Fignon had invited him over to his home on the evening of his PC in
1996 when he announced he had cancer and was alone before flying back
to the US the next day. Not sure why Fignon was around at that PC,
maybe because his ex-mentor Guimard was the head of Armstrong's
Cofidis team.

Johnny Twelve-Point presented by JFT

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Jul 5, 2009, 6:29:44 PM7/5/09
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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:16:05 -0700 (PDT), ilan <ila...@gmail.com>
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>LF is commentating, seems in pretty good
>shape though completely hairless.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Johnny Twelve-Point presented by JFT

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Jul 5, 2009, 6:30:50 PM7/5/09
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What is PC?

Keith

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Jul 5, 2009, 7:14:17 PM7/5/09
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Press Conference

RicodJour

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Jul 5, 2009, 9:40:56 PM7/5/09
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On Jul 5, 7:14 pm, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:30:50 GMT, Johnny Twelve-Point presented by JFT
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> <usenetrem...@jt10000.com> wrote:
> >On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:50:01 +0200, Keith <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
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> >>On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:16:05 -0700 (PDT), ilan <ilan...@gmail.com>

> >>wrote:
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> >>>One thing I've been wondering about: Armstrong states that his
> >>>comeback was to publicize cancer awareness but what has he done
> >>>regarding Fignon's condition? LF is commentating, seems in pretty good
> >>>shape though completely hairless. No mention at all is made of his
> >>>condition, though they did thank spectators on the side of the road
> >>>today who had a "Courage Fignon" banner without any other commentary.
>
> >>>I'm not sure how Armstrong and Fignon got along in the past, probably
> >>>better than Armstrong and Lemond which is not saying much I suppose.
>
> >>>-ilan
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> >>LA was asked about Fignon recently, can't remember if he said he had
> >>called or would call Fignon but he remembered, how couldn't he, that
> >>Fignon had invited him over to his home on the evening of his PC in
> >>1996 when he announced he had cancer and was alone before flying back
> >>to the US the next day. Not sure why Fignon was around at that PC,
> >>maybe because his ex-mentor Guimard was the head of Armstrong's
> >>Cofidis team.
>
> >What is PC?
>
> Press Conference

Using obscure acronyms makes you a DB.

R

Scott

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Jul 6, 2009, 12:10:06 AM7/6/09
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When you ask what LA has done regarding Fignon's condition, I wonder
what you think he can or should do? He (LA) is allegedly raising
awareness and raising funds, but he can't actually cure cancer (yet).
What are you expecting?

Donald Munro

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Jul 6, 2009, 5:10:02 AM7/6/09
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RicodJour wrote:
> Using obscure acronyms makes you a DB.

Database ? Dead beat ? Dumb boor ?

cur...@the-md-russells.org

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Jul 6, 2009, 5:59:20 AM7/6/09
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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:16:05 -0700 (PDT), ilan <ila...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>One thing I've been wondering about: Armstrong states that his
>comeback was to publicize cancer awareness but what has he done
>regarding Fignon's condition?

He made a comment on Fignon's condition that seemed gracious and aware
enough. Anything more and the LA-non crowd would be talking about how
LA was using Fignon for his own cause. The generally accepted approach
is to take your cues from the person with the cancer, which LA would
know.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Theodore Heise

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Jul 6, 2009, 8:15:55 AM7/6/09
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Dumbass.

--
Theodore (Ted) Heise <th...@heise.nu> Bloomington, IN, USA

ilan

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Jul 6, 2009, 10:11:19 AM7/6/09
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IWTTDITACBFUNPRTSTATT

-ilan

Susan Walker

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Jul 6, 2009, 11:02:39 AM7/6/09
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Theodore Heise wrote:

> Donald Munro wrote:
>> RicodJour wrote:
>>> Using obscure acronyms makes you a DB.
>> Database ? Dead beat ? Dumb boor ?
>
> Dumbass.

Sure, but what does DB mean?

Theodore Heise

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Jul 6, 2009, 12:04:40 PM7/6/09
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DumBass.

Donald Munro

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Jul 6, 2009, 10:54:39 AM7/6/09
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RicodJour wrote:
>>> Using obscure acronyms makes you a DB.

Donald Munro wrote:
>> Database ? Dead beat ? Dumb boor ?

Theodore Heise wrote:
> Dumbass.

That would be DA eg DA74.

cur...@the-md-russells.org

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:05:19 PM7/6/09
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:11:19 -0700 (PDT), ilan <ila...@gmail.com>
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>> Using obscure acronyms makes you a DB.
>>
>> R
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>IWTTDITACBFUNPRTSTATT
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>-ilan

DILLIGAF?

CLR

Donald Munro

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Jul 6, 2009, 1:46:55 PM7/6/09
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RicodJour wrote:
>>>> Using obscure acronyms makes you a DB.

Donald Munro wrote:
>>> Database ? Dead beat ? Dumb boor ?

Theodore Heise wrote:
>> Dumbass.

Susan Walker wrote:
> Sure, but what does DB mean?

The fullstop confused me. My parser was expecting a comma.

ilan

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Jul 6, 2009, 6:52:45 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 11:59 am, cur...@the-md-russells.org wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 14:16:05 -0700 (PDT), ilan <ilan...@gmail.com>

That's what I was expecting. Fignon spent today in Montpellier get a
chemotherapy treatment and was replaced by Jalabert. He will be
commentating tomorrow, which is impressive.

Generally, Fignon has been much better than in previous years, he is
now very aware of when he says something stupid and corrects himself,
and has less memory issues than in previous years. That says something
about the state of his health. During stage one he made a remark about
his future replacement after one of the French riders gave a very good
interview, so he is keeping a sense of humor about the whole thing.

-ilan

Johnny Twelve-Point presented by JFT

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On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:52:45 -0700 (PDT), ilan <ila...@gmail.com>
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>Generally, Fignon has been much better than in previous years, he is


>now very aware of when he says something stupid and corrects himself,
>and has less memory issues than in previous years. That says something
>about the state of his health. During stage one he made a remark about
>his future replacement after one of the French riders gave a very good
>interview, so he is keeping a sense of humor about the whole thing.

Both those guys are so classy in terms of insight.

Tom Kunich

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Jul 6, 2009, 7:21:30 PM7/6/09
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"ilan" <ila...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> That's what I was expecting. Fignon spent today in Montpellier get a
> chemotherapy treatment and was replaced by Jalabert. He will be
> commentating tomorrow, which is impressive.

Chemo is a whole lot different since a couple of multimillionaires got it
and started paying big money to develop better treatment techniques. The
problem with these techniques is that there's no second chance. If it
doesn't work the first time there's no second try.

> Generally, Fignon has been much better than in previous years, he is
> now very aware of when he says something stupid and corrects himself,
> and has less memory issues than in previous years. That says something
> about the state of his health. During stage one he made a remark about
> his future replacement after one of the French riders gave a very good
> interview, so he is keeping a sense of humor about the whole thing.

I think that Fignon's problem has always been that he is a private person
and never liked people sticking their noses into his private life. Now that
he is more interested in keeping his own life he probably is more accepting
of others feeling the same way.

As I said, I remember that most of the other racers at his time much
preferred him to LeMond.

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