Jackass
ronaldo_jeremiah
-rj
Hell And High Water
bf6094...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, ronaldo_...@yahoo.com
says...
> David Millar is a jackass.
Yes.
Yes he is.
-Bob
bar
wrote:
> In article <7820caca-ca37-44c7-991d-
> bf60940c4...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, ronaldo_jerem...@yahoo.com
> says...
>
> > David Millar is a jackass.
>
> Yes.
>
> Yes he is.
>
> -Bob
same old crybaby that he ever was ...
Bret
What's the big deal? He broke his chain, so he threw the bike away and
got a new one. I do that too.
Scott
wrote:
> David Millar is a jackass.
>
> -rj
Yeah, like YOU'd have handled it differently.
No reason for him to be so upset, he'd only just spent roughly 5 hours
working his arse off to put himself in a position to win a stage of
the Giro, only to have his chance taken away due to a mechanical.
Geez, cut him some slack. Frankly, I'd be concerned if he DIDN'T show
some anger/emotion.
Now, if he'd been a steroid-inflated baseball player who'd just struck
out in the bottom of the ninth, he'd have broken the bike over his
knee. THAT would've been impressive.
Carl Sundquist
"Scott" <hendric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Is this what Millar meant when he said that the rest of the Giro was all
icing and cherries?
Victor Kan
> ...in a position to win a stage of
> the Giro, only to have his chance taken away due to a mechanical.
Millar seems to be a magnet for such things though. It makes me
wonder if he told his mechanic something like "I'm going for it today,
so I want my bike as light as possible. Do you have a stupid light
chain to put on there for that little extra, but legal, edge? Don't
worry, I'll have a front derailleur this time so if I throw a chain
again, I can get it back on quicker and still have a go for the line.
And it's not like I'm using a disc wheel that'll fall apart on me
right out of the gate."
b...@mambo.ucolick.org
It's the Millar line. Everybody faster who doesn't break
their bicycle probably has a mechanic who's cheating.
I can't blame Millar for this toss. His chain broke at the
frickin' red kite - you can't get much worse timing. And
there's a good chance he smacked his groin on the
top tube in the process. I've seen Masters Fatties abuse
their bicycles during MTB races and throw them down in
disgust for much smaller slights.
Ben
Mike Jacoubowsky
OK, let's think about this one just a little bit. Sure, he tossed his bike.
But it was in the final section of road where there were barriers on each
side, and there are two reasons to get it out of the roadway-
#1: There's not much room there, and an approaching pack getting ready for
the final sprint would likely plow into it and crash.
#2: It makes it darn clear to his support car that HE NEEDS A BIKE.
Seriously. His bike had to get off the roadway, period. The fact that he
threw it with such force, well sure, he was pretty upset. Had every right to
be. But really, in a case like that, it should be almost instinctive to get
your non-functioning bike out of harms way.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
"ronaldo_jeremiah" <ronaldo_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Robert Chung
wrote:
>
> Seriously. His bike had to get off the roadway, period. The fact that he
> threw it with such force, well sure, he was pretty upset. Had every right to
> be. But really, in a case like that, it should be almost instinctive to get
> your non-functioning bike out of harms way.
So, why'd Riis need to toss his bike?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFzteK_y1b4
ronaldo_jeremiah
> Yeah, like YOU'd have handled it differently.
Dumbass -
You've got that right.
>
> No reason for him to be so upset, he'd only just spent roughly 5 hours
> working his arse off to put himself in a position to win a stage of
> the Giro, only to have his chance taken away due to a mechanical.
Yeah, I know, that's never happened to anyone before in the history of
bike racing.
>
> Geez, cut him some slack. Frankly, I'd be concerned if he DIDN'T show
> some anger/emotion.
Millar has been given so much slack, he's really not entitled to any
more. He's lucky - very lucky - to be able to make a living racing a
bike at all. Further, he's outspoken about wanting to do things the
right way. I hardly think making an ass out of yourself on
international television coverage, and implicitly belittling your
equipment sponsors, is the way to do that.
After his immature move on that Vuelta mountain stage, the scores of
bad equipment decisions in major races, and getting caught red-handed
with hot sauce, this guy should be doing his best to maintain a more
positive profile. Even moreso now that he is older, and a team owner.
Throwing a bike is always lame.
-rj
Robert Chung
wrote:
> I've seen Masters Fatties abuse
> their bicycles during MTB races and throw them down in
> disgust for much smaller slights.
I've given up on throwing my bike around. It's a sacrifice, it really
is, but I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see
me throwing a bike. I feel I owe it to the families to be as -- to be
in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think throwing a bike
around during a war just sends the wrong signal.
Fred Fredburger
I just claim to have spotted a terrorist. Throwing your bike at
terrorists is the patriotic thing to do.
William Asher
Typical leftist gay tripe. If we don't throw our bikes around over there,
they will be throwing their bikes around here at home. I wouldn't expect
an America-hater like you to understand how not throwing your bike
emboldens them, but the patriots here will recognize the wisdom in what I
said. Somewhere. Millar threw his bike so you could go for afternoon
rides in safety, the least you could do is acknowledge his sacrifice
without turning it into a political rant. Or something.
--
Bill Asher
Ryan Cousineau
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> > David Millar is a jackass.
>
> OK, let's think about this one just a little bit. Sure, he tossed his bike.
> But it was in the final section of road where there were barriers on each
> side, and there are two reasons to get it out of the roadway-
>
> #1: There's not much room there, and an approaching pack getting ready for
> the final sprint would likely plow into it and crash.
>
> #2: It makes it darn clear to his support car that HE NEEDS A BIKE.
>
> Seriously. His bike had to get off the roadway, period. The fact that he
> threw it with such force, well sure, he was pretty upset. Had every right to
> be. But really, in a case like that, it should be almost instinctive to get
> your non-functioning bike out of harms way.
Fascinating bit of post-hoc reasoning. I can't help but feel the
Slipstream mechanics may have wanted him to leave the bike a wee bit
closer to the barriers, so they could retrieve it.
But I do like your theory.
This was, in fact, a much stronger toss than the notorious Riis throw.
This leads us to the shocking conclusion that Riis was clean when he
threw his bike.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcou...@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
William Asher
> In article <mhKWj.1853$r82....@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
>
>> > David Millar is a jackass.
>>
>> OK, let's think about this one just a little bit. Sure, he tossed his
>> bike. But it was in the final section of road where there were
>> barriers on each side, and there are two reasons to get it out of the
>> roadway-
>>
>> #1: There's not much room there, and an approaching pack getting
>> ready for the final sprint would likely plow into it and crash.
>>
>> #2: It makes it darn clear to his support car that HE NEEDS A BIKE.
>>
>> Seriously. His bike had to get off the roadway, period. The fact that
>> he threw it with such force, well sure, he was pretty upset. Had
>> every right to be. But really, in a case like that, it should be
>> almost instinctive to get your non-functioning bike out of harms way.
>
> Fascinating bit of post-hoc reasoning. I can't help but feel the
> Slipstream mechanics may have wanted him to leave the bike a wee bit
> closer to the barriers, so they could retrieve it.
>
> But I do like your theory.
>
> This was, in fact, a much stronger toss than the notorious Riis throw.
> This leads us to the shocking conclusion that Riis was clean when he
> threw his bike.
>
There's a still image on CyclingNews of him standing there waiting for the
team car with his bike. So somebody handed it back over the barrier to him
as he stood by the side waiting.
I still think it was a woossie throw, he never got his whole body into it.
--
Bill Asher
John Forrest Tomlinson
<ronaldo_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>After his immature move on that Vuelta mountain stage, the scores of
>bad equipment decisions in major races, and getting caught red-handed
>with hot sauce,
I love that stuff. Well, maybe not the doping, but the rest
Michael Press
<540eba85-dffb-494a...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
bar <barba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 14, 1:02 pm, Hell And High Water <bob.remove.hell...@att.net>
> wrote:
> > In article <7820caca-ca37-44c7-991d-
> > bf60940c4...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, ronaldo_jerem...@yahoo.com
> > says...
> >
> > > David Millar is a jackass.
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > Yes he is.
>
> same old crybaby that he ever was ...
The team and equipment suppliers need that kind of exposure.
Millar rides the bicycles they tell him to ride.
The equipment is supposed to hold up to race conditions.
How much milage does a stage race bicycle get? Sheesh.
If he had had the time he could have left a testing sample
with the defunct racing equipment.
--
Michael Press
Paul G.
wrote:
Well he threw one down from the top of the stairs
Beautiful women were standing everywhere
They all got wet when he smashed that thing
But off in the dark you could hear somebody sing
It started back in 1963
His momma wouldnt buy him
That new Schwinn Varsity
He settled for a Huffy with a crack
But hes stIll trying to break his mommas back
There out to be a law with no bail
Smash a bike and you go to jail
With no chance for early parole
You don't get out tIll you get some soul
Late at night the end of the road
He wished he still had the old bike he rode
He'd rock it like a baby in his arms
Never let it come to any harm
Bret
wrote:
> Throwing a bike is always lame.
The other end of the spectrum is Eric Zabel who had a frame collapse
under him in the middle of a TDF field sprint and never admitted that
the bike failed. They threw the bike in a van and never acknowledged
the failure. Kind of disappointing.
As someone who has tried to beat a few inanimate objects to death, I
can almost sympathize with Millar, but not the bike.
Bret
Howard Kveck
Robert Chung <rec...@gmail.com> wrote:
You know, giving up golf, er, throwing bikes seems to be a lot like giving up
sweets during a war for some people: it makes for a nice soundbite but doesn't pan
out in reality (there's that word again). Of course, pointing that out would be
"petty bullshit."
--
tanx,
Howard
Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.
remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
Howard Kveck
"Paul G." <car...@egine.com> wrote:
Excellent.
Bret
John Hiatt - Perfectly Good Guitar
Mike Jacoubowsky
| team car with his bike. So somebody handed it back over the barrier to
him
| as he stood by the side waiting.
I saw that photo. Pretty frightening place to be standing, I would think.
And the chain in the middle of the road... glad that didn't get flipped up
by the pack and cause a crash.
That photo does discount my theory. On the other hand, could be that a
spectator recovered his bike and handed it to him, and what's he going to do
at that point? Tell him no, keep it? :>)
In any event, in typical Giro fashion, it seemed like a pretty narrow run-in
for that final kilometer.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"William Asher" <gcn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Donald Munro
>> David Millar is a jackass.
Scott wrote:
> Geez, cut him some slack. Frankly, I'd be concerned if he DIDN'T show
> some anger/emotion.
I'm told you can buy slack on the cheap in some places in Philadelphia.
> Now, if he'd been a steroid-inflated baseball player who'd just struck out
> in the bottom of the ninth, he'd have broken the bike over his knee. THAT
> would've been impressive.
Millar sucked quite bad compared to Riis in the bike throwing contest,
particularly as Riis TT bike probably weighed a lot more than Millars
bike. Probably just another mkanifestation of the Millar line.
Donald Munro
> I just claim to have spotted a terrorist. Throwing your bike at terrorists
> is the patriotic thing to do.
Unless the top tube is full of semtex (purely to get around the 6.8kg
rule of course).
b...@mambo.ucolick.org
I too have made sacrifices in the War on Terror.
As part of our national effort, for the duration,
I've sworn to give up terrorism.
I sure hope we can win this war soon enough.
A man needs his hobbies, after all.
Ben
Donald Munro
> I too have made sacrifices in the War on Terror. As part of our national
> effort, for the duration, I've sworn to give up terrorism.
>
> I sure hope we can win this war soon enough. A man needs his hobbies,
> after all.
I'd have thought your other hobby of killing off the 3rd world population
would take up all your time. Unless of course you've got bored and decided
to leave it to the cyclones and earthquakes.
joseph.sa...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'll say. Even if his chain didn't break, and he had won the stage,
he'd still be a jackass.
Joseph
Carl Sundquist
"Donald Munro" <fat-d...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:482bec58$0$2957$ec3e...@news.usenetmonster.com...
> ronaldo_jeremiah wrote:
>>> David Millar is a jackass.
>
> Scott wrote:
>
>> Geez, cut him some slack. Frankly, I'd be concerned if he DIDN'T show
>> some anger/emotion.
>
> I'm told you can buy slack on the cheap in some places in Philadelphia.
>
Hincapie had a hard time finding some there.
William Asher
>
> That photo does discount my theory. On the other hand, could be that a
> spectator recovered his bike and handed it to him, and what's he going
> to do at that point? Tell him no, keep it? :>)
>
I don't think he was thinking very rationally at that point. He was pissed
off and threw his bike and someone handed it back to him. He wasn't
thinking of a narrow run-in, we was thinking how he was *that* close to a
road stage win and was in a blind rage. It reminded me of the story from
Ball Four about the guy (I forget the payer's name) who got tossed from a
ballgame and went berserk. He kicked in the water cooler and threw it out
onto the field. The player was alleged by Bouton to have said he went
berserk because right as he got tossed, his greenie kicked in. Adrenaline
will do that to you too.
--
Bill Asher
ronaldo_jeremiah
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>
> > That photo does discount my theory. On the other hand, could be that a
> > spectator recovered his bike and handed it to him, and what's he going
> > to do at that point? Tell him no, keep it? :>)
>
> I don't think he was thinking very rationally at that point. He was pissed
> off and threw his bike and someone handed it back to him.
I think the spectator should've kept it. It's hardly any different
than a baseball that's been hit into the stands, is it?
-rj
Fred Fredburger
It doesn't really matter what he's doing, he's covered.
There is no behavior so atrocious that it can't be excused by the War on
Terror.
If you replace the word "excused" with "forgiven" and "the War on
Terror" with the name of your favorite deity, I think you'll recognize a
very old idea in a new package.
Ryan Cousineau
Donald Munro <fat-d...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hell, the Burmese junta is having so much fun right now with Ben's hobby
that they even refute my theories of rising tides and boats and global
warming for people living below the high-water mark.
Donald Munro
> What's the big deal? He broke his chain, so he threw the bike away and got
> a new one. I do that too.
Hey I get a new Pinarello every time my chain wears out.
billb
I get a new car when the ashtrays are full.
Best,
Bill Black
Fred Fredburger
> In article <482bf0f4$0$2958$ec3e...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
> Donald Munro <fat-d...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> b...@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
>>> I too have made sacrifices in the War on Terror. As part of our national
>>> effort, for the duration, I've sworn to give up terrorism.
>>>
>>> I sure hope we can win this war soon enough. A man needs his hobbies,
>>> after all.
>> I'd have thought your other hobby of killing off the 3rd world population
>> would take up all your time. Unless of course you've got bored and decided
>> to leave it to the cyclones and earthquakes.
>
> Hell, the Burmese junta is having so much fun right now with Ben's hobby
> that they even refute my theories of rising tides and boats and global
> warming for people living below the high-water mark.
>
"Burmese junta" sounds so cool! Maybe if the UCI changed their name to
"Burmese Junta" they'd be taken seriously. Who'd want to cross them then?
Donald Munro
> "Burmese junta" sounds so cool! Maybe if the UCI changed their name to
> "Burmese Junta" they'd be taken seriously. Who'd want to cross them then?
Or a really badass team who switch their opponents all the time.
Donald Munro
>> Hey I get a new Pinarello every time my chain wears out.
billb wrote:
> I get a new car when the ashtrays are full.
I'd still be driving my first car then (I think it was a beaten up
old Toyota if memory serves me correctly).
William Asher
With what?
--
Bill Asher
b...@mambo.ucolick.org
Well, as you know I work at a university, and since
universities are part of the Liberal Science Conspiracy,
in principle they're on board with the project. However,
it turns out that there is some extra red tape, since
global genocide has to be vetted and rubber-stamped by an
human-subjects-research IRB (Institutional Review Board).
Ben
Donald Munro
>> > I too have made sacrifices in the War on Terror. As part of our
>> > national effort, for the duration, I've sworn to give up terrorism.
>> > I sure hope we can win this war soon enough. A man needs his hobbies,
>> > after all.
Donald Munro wrote:
>> I'd have thought your other hobby of killing off the 3rd world
>> population would take up all your time. Unless of course you've got
>> bored and decided to leave it to the cyclones and earthquakes.
b...@mambo.ucolick.org wrote:
> Well, as you know I work at a university, and since universities are part
> of the Liberal Science Conspiracy, in principle they're on board with the
> project. However, it turns out that there is some extra red tape, since
> global genocide has to be vetted and rubber-stamped by an
> human-subjects-research IRB (Institutional Review Board).
I used to work at a University myself back in the 90's and you're right,
there's so much red tape. You even need to fill out a form in triplicate
on double-ply toilet paper before you can wipe your ass.
Paul G.
That's true of any large organization. The military is probably the
ultimate in red tape.
-Paul
Ryan Cousineau
<a64b4793-285e-4d08...@f24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
"Paul G." <car...@egine.com> wrote:
S'true. Getting so you can hardly even shoot anyone anymore:
<http://kaboomwarjournal.blogspot.com/2008/03/rules-of-engagement.html>