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Phlegm Stew ( Stu Fleming ) is making up his own quotes in Facebook RBR.
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Anton Berlin
Jun 13, 2013, 11:45:20 AM6/13/13
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Where's a source for these quotes attributed to Vaughters?
"My general opinion is that the most effective o2 vector methods of
doping have been very limited by bio passport, new methods, and
outright fear. Limited, does not mean eliminated. But if you limited
the gains made by o2 vector doping, even the 15% will not have much of
an advantage and it does not preclude a clean rider from winning.
That's my greater point, is that doping is far from gone, but it is
contained enough to allow superior physiology to win. That is a far
cry from 10 yrs ago or even 6 years ago. It's a far cry from perfect
too, I realize that. "
Nothing -
https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=%22That%27s+my+greater+point%2C+is+that+doping+is+far+from+gone%22&oq=%22That%27s+my+greater+point%2C+is+that+doping+is+far+from+gone%22&gs_l=hp.3...286.286.1.736.1.1.0.0.0.0.173.173.0j1.1.0...0.0...1c.1.17.psy-ab.LCGQXqUuSKM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47883778,d.dmQ&fp=82ff4decb236eb8c&biw=1600&bih=803
Nada -
https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=%22My+general+opinion+is+that+the+most+effective+o2+vector+methods+of+doping+have+been+very+limited+by+bio+passport%2C+new+methods%2C+and+outright+fear%22&oq=%22My+general+opinion+is+that+the+most+effective+o2+vector+methods+of+doping+have+been+very+limited+by+bio+passport%2C+new+methods%2C+and+outright+fear%22&gs_l=hp.12...44111.53669.2.55647.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.3...1c.1.17.psy-ab.nKK-GfoWT7s&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47883778,d.dmQ&fp=82ff4decb236eb8c&biw=1600&bih=803
Zip -
https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=%22even+the+15%25+will+not+have+much+of+an+advantage+and+it+does+not+preclude+a+clean+rider+from+winning%22&oq=%22even+the+15%25+will+not+have+much+of+an+advantage+and+it+does+not+preclude+a+clean+rider+from+winning%22&gs_l=hp.3...35792.40813.3.41688.3.3.0.0.0.0.125.232.0j2.2.0...0.1...1c.1.17.psy-ab.v-hWsDdiEMI&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47883778,d.dmQ&fp=82ff4decb236eb8c&biw=1600&bih=803
"My general opinion is that the most effective o2 vector methods of
doping have been very limited by bio passport, new methods, and
outright fear. Limited, does not mean eliminated. But if you limited
the gains made by o2 vector doping, even the 15% will not have much of
an advantage and it does not preclude a clean rider from winning.
That's my greater point, is that doping is far from gone, but it is
contained enough to allow superior physiology to win. That is a far
cry from 10 yrs ago or even 6 years ago. It's a far cry from perfect
too, I realize that. "
Nothing -
https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=%22That%27s+my+greater+point%2C+is+that+doping+is+far+from+gone%22&oq=%22That%27s+my+greater+point%2C+is+that+doping+is+far+from+gone%22&gs_l=hp.3...286.286.1.736.1.1.0.0.0.0.173.173.0j1.1.0...0.0...1c.1.17.psy-ab.LCGQXqUuSKM&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47883778,d.dmQ&fp=82ff4decb236eb8c&biw=1600&bih=803
Nada -
https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=%22My+general+opinion+is+that+the+most+effective+o2+vector+methods+of+doping+have+been+very+limited+by+bio+passport%2C+new+methods%2C+and+outright+fear%22&oq=%22My+general+opinion+is+that+the+most+effective+o2+vector+methods+of+doping+have+been+very+limited+by+bio+passport%2C+new+methods%2C+and+outright+fear%22&gs_l=hp.12...44111.53669.2.55647.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.3...1c.1.17.psy-ab.nKK-GfoWT7s&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47883778,d.dmQ&fp=82ff4decb236eb8c&biw=1600&bih=803
Zip -
https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=%22even+the+15%25+will+not+have+much+of+an+advantage+and+it+does+not+preclude+a+clean+rider+from+winning%22&oq=%22even+the+15%25+will+not+have+much+of+an+advantage+and+it+does+not+preclude+a+clean+rider+from+winning%22&gs_l=hp.3...35792.40813.3.41688.3.3.0.0.0.0.125.232.0j2.2.0...0.1...1c.1.17.psy-ab.v-hWsDdiEMI&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47883778,d.dmQ&fp=82ff4decb236eb8c&biw=1600&bih=803
zenon_...@hotmail.com
Jun 13, 2013, 11:37:41 PM6/13/13
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If the source was up your ass you'd know.
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Anton Berlin
Jun 15, 2013, 5:04:36 PM6/15/13
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On Jun 13, 10:37 pm, zenon_jask...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:45:20 AM UTC-7, Anton Berlin wrote:
> > Where's a source for these quotes attributed to Vaughters?
>
> > "My general opinion is that the most effective o2 vector methods of
>
> > doping have been very limited by bio passport, new methods, and
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> > outright fear. Limited, does not mean eliminated. But if you limited
>
> > the gains made by o2 vector doping, even the 15% will not have much of
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> > an advantage and it does not preclude a clean rider from winning.
>
> > That's my greater point, is that doping is far from gone, but it is
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> > contained enough to allow superior physiology to win. That is a far
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> > cry from 10 yrs ago or even 6 years ago. It's a far cry from perfect
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> > too, I realize that. "
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> > Nothing -
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> >https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=%22That%27s+my+greater+point...
> On Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:45:20 AM UTC-7, Anton Berlin wrote:
> > Where's a source for these quotes attributed to Vaughters?
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> > "My general opinion is that the most effective o2 vector methods of
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> > doping have been very limited by bio passport, new methods, and
>
> > outright fear. Limited, does not mean eliminated. But if you limited
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> > the gains made by o2 vector doping, even the 15% will not have much of
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> > an advantage and it does not preclude a clean rider from winning.
>
> > That's my greater point, is that doping is far from gone, but it is
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> > contained enough to allow superior physiology to win. That is a far
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> > cry from 10 yrs ago or even 6 years ago. It's a far cry from perfect
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> > too, I realize that. "
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> > Nothing -
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> > Nada -
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> >https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=%22My+general+opinion+is+tha...
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> > Zip -
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> >https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=%22even+the+15%25+will+not+h...
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Pathetic. You've lost your touch.
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> If the source was up your ass you'd know.
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drmofe
Jul 7, 2013, 6:32:40 PM7/7/13
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On Friday, 14 June 2013 03:45:20 UTC+12, Anton Berlin wrote:
> Where's a source for these quotes attributed to Vaughters?
>
>
>
> "My general opinion is that the most effective o2 vector methods of
>
> doping have been very limited by bio passport, new methods, and
>
> outright fear. Limited, does not mean eliminated. But if you limited
>
> the gains made by o2 vector doping, even the 15% will not have much of
>
> an advantage and it does not preclude a clean rider from winning.
>
> That's my greater point, is that doping is far from gone, but it is
>
> contained enough to allow superior physiology to win. That is a far
>
> cry from 10 yrs ago or even 6 years ago. It's a far cry from perfect
>
> too, I realize that. "
Dude, your Google-fu is weak.
> Where's a source for these quotes attributed to Vaughters?
>
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> "My general opinion is that the most effective o2 vector methods of
>
> doping have been very limited by bio passport, new methods, and
>
> outright fear. Limited, does not mean eliminated. But if you limited
>
> the gains made by o2 vector doping, even the 15% will not have much of
>
> an advantage and it does not preclude a clean rider from winning.
>
> That's my greater point, is that doping is far from gone, but it is
>
> contained enough to allow superior physiology to win. That is a far
>
> cry from 10 yrs ago or even 6 years ago. It's a far cry from perfect
>
> too, I realize that. "
Vaughters used those words himself; he's been verified to use the account on the forum.
Here's the permalink to the discussion on the CyclingNews forum.
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1256285&postcount=4507
And here's the link to the overall thread:
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=18079
When you've read all of that, get back to me.
Thanks,
Stu
steven.l....@gmail.com
Jul 7, 2013, 8:07:07 PM7/7/13
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