For non-French readers
A. Dumas
--D-y
> "LA Confidentiel" in English, and other documents:http://www.scribd.com/Fight4Truth
Quoting:
"I try to fight for a clean sport in cycling. I'm too much in love
with it to watch it rot. I'm too much in love with it to allow
cheaters to make it rot."
Greg Lemond fits the doper profile. If you're really fighting for
truth, what do you have to say about that?
--D-y
Amit Ghosh
dumbass,
write "doper profile one more time".
you are such a hypocrite in your zeal to kill the messenger. i don't
know if lemond was clean or not but he finished on the podium in his
his first three tours so winning in his next participation (1989)
isn't a sudden leap in performance (unlike say schumacher winng the
TdF TTs).
but whether he raced clean or not how does that change the facts ?
how do you explain that stephanie mcilvain admits on tape to lemond
that she heard armstrong admit to doping and then deny it in court ?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5508863
"McIlvain denied the hospital incident under oath in late 2005.
According to Greg LeMond, she said something completely different, the
year before. In July of 2004, former Tour de France champion Greg
LeMond had a conversation with McIlvain, in which they discussed the
Indiana hospital room incident. NPR viewed a transcript of that
conversation. Referring to Lance Armstrong's alleged admission of drug
use, McIlvain told Lemond, "I was in that room. I heard it."
if you want i can post the entire recording (it's long).
....or that the LNDD found EPO in the '99 samples, but armstrong
hasn't tried to sue Lemonde or ressiot for writing the story ?
....or that he bullied simeoni for testifying against ferrari who was
subsequently found guilty of sporting fraud ?
--D-y
Is this a "who is the biggest doper" contest?
I'm not trying to "kill" Greg Lemond. Even if I wanted to, he's
already doing such a swell job that I don't feel the need to get my
hands dirty, so to speak.
The problem is, in his zeal to reclaim his "rightful" (maybe not!)
place in cycling history, Greg has (IMHO) done the sport a lot of
harm.
The facts remain: Greg couldn't ride in June, at the Giro. He won the
Tour de France a few short weeks later. The cover story was "I
discovered I was anemic" and a miraculous cure was accomplished
through "iron shots"-- which some say "can't work like that".
If you ever paid attention when you read what I've posted on this
subject... um, guess not.
This War on Doping is a big sellout to corporate advertisers.
Remember, Dick Pound was the "guy who cleaned up the Olympics" and
took that hot dog stand way uptown, and the money came pouring in.
Whoops, big problem, the athletes are scamming, too.
Damn, "NEW IMPROVED!!! Wheaties with EPO!!!" doesn't work in the
marketplace, so let's fix that!! We'll make a bunch of Holy Rules
(unenforceable by accurate, timely testing) and anyone we can catch
"cheating" by hook or by police search, or retro-testing years later,
we can damn to Hell. Our shit doesn't stink!
Meanwhile, out on the playing field, if the guy next to you can dope
and not get caught (because the Holy Testing is basically a fraud),
then you have a choice to make. "Go be ordinary" and "do something
else", or get in the Real World Boat and row like "everyone else" is
doing. If you get caught, you're screwed, but good. Those are the real
"rules" for athletes.
After all, no one is forcing you to be an athlete, and you don't have
any rights. Right, Amit?
One more time: NASCAR does it so much better! Even when they started
really cracking down IRT the "COT", they didn't kick offenders out of
the sport for two years (duh). Obvious conclusion: Colonel Sanders and
PBR are brain food!
Yes, I've "defended" Lance Armstrong (as if he needed) but this
bullshit, again plain and obvious from what I've posted in the past,
goes way beyond any one athlete.
It's the War on People, Amit. Don't sell out to the forces of
darkness-- for all they can impersonate the shining angels on high,
that's not what's going on.
I mean, when you say "I don't know if Greg Lemond was clean or not",
it's time to take a different tack, or just shut up! Like Greg should
have done, since he fits the doper profile and can't prove he always
raced "clean".
I suggest you read the book for yourself, but "Put Me Back On My Bike,
In Search of Tom Simpson" shows an excellent historical perspective--
IOW, "they all always did dope" and (the $64,000 question) when did
"doping" deserve more than getting kicked out of the race you were
doping in? --D-y