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dbr...@gmail.com

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Aug 14, 2006, 11:49:39 AM8/14/06
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I have been unable to find a source that says one way or another.

thanks,

-dB

Mark

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Aug 14, 2006, 2:04:21 PM8/14/06
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<dbr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have been unable to find a source that says one way or another.

who cares? cyclingnews reports he fell face first and suffered facial
injuries and a broken nose..

dbr...@gmail.com

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Aug 14, 2006, 4:52:45 PM8/14/06
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It was the first question my kids asked. It seems a reasonable thing
to wonder about. Even if you land face first, you can roll and bounce
on your head after the surface does it's job to the soft flesh in the
front of your face. A skid mark photo of a helmet would be an
educational device. "Seven time polka dot wearer gets facial injuries
in crash, but Clonk-o-matic saves his brain"

And if he wasn't wearing a helmet, that's news of its own, depending on
how you feel about using Virenque as a role model.

-dB

gds

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Aug 14, 2006, 5:25:45 PM8/14/06
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dbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> And if he wasn't wearing a helmet, that's news of its own, depending on
> how you feel about using Virenque as a role model.
>

That's almost funny. Using Virenque as a role model that is.

"I may be a doper but I never leave home without my helmet." Great
line.

John Forrest Tomlinson

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Aug 14, 2006, 7:46:23 PM8/14/06
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On 14 Aug 2006 08:49:39 -0700, dbr...@gmail.com wrote:

>I have been unable to find a source that says one way or another.

What does it matter? If he was, he's alive because he was wearing
one. If he wasn't, he's alive in spite of not wearing one. Simple.

JT

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Aug 14, 2006, 7:47:05 PM8/14/06
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On 14 Aug 2006 13:52:45 -0700, dbr...@gmail.com wrote:

>And if he wasn't wearing a helmet, that's news of its own, depending on
>how you feel about using Virenque as a role model.

Role model for what?

Scott

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Aug 14, 2006, 8:04:04 PM8/14/06
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Your second contention is true. If he wasn't wearing a helmet, he's
alive regardless.

Your first, that if he was wearing one, he's alive because he did, is
not. You can not say he's alive because he was wearing a helmet. You
CAN say that he did not die. Period.

h squared

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Aug 14, 2006, 8:10:09 PM8/14/06
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should i wear a helmet when doing this?
http://home.comcast.net/~pomeroyq/ouch.gif

(ps. reply urgently needed asap)

h

CowPunk

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Aug 14, 2006, 8:33:30 PM8/14/06
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Roll models are usually reserved for crash test dummies, but if you
wish to use a Frenchman for it, that's OK by me.

Mike Kaiser

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Aug 14, 2006, 9:21:40 PM8/14/06
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I was recently sideswiped by a trailer being pulled behind a pickup
truck and knocked off my bike at low speed. In relating the tale to
coworkers, relatives, etc., I've been asked about twenty times whether
I was wearing a helmet. Not a single person has asked me if I hit my
head.

ST

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Aug 14, 2006, 9:22:38 PM8/14/06
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On 8/14/06 5:10 PM, in article ub-dnTOmj8t_jXzZ...@comcast.com,
"h squared" <clevistoreply...@comcast.net> wrote:

Heather,
I like this one better!

http://socalcycling.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=104

dbr...@gmail.com

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Aug 15, 2006, 12:07:04 AM8/15/06
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Good point. Did you? Would you know? The last time I slipped in
the wet and fell sideways, I know my shoulder hit the ground from the
pain, blood, and the scrape in the jersey, but I have no idea if any
part of my head also touched ground.

-dB

b...@mambo.ucolick.org

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Aug 15, 2006, 12:30:14 AM8/15/06
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dbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Mike Kaiser wrote:
> > dbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I have been unable to find a source that says one way or another.
> >
> > I was recently sideswiped by a trailer being pulled behind a pickup
> > truck and knocked off my bike at low speed. In relating the tale to
> > coworkers, relatives, etc., I've been asked about twenty times whether
> > I was wearing a helmet. Not a single person has asked me if I hit my
> > head.
>
> Good point. Did you? Would you know? The last time I slipped in
> the wet and fell sideways, I know my shoulder hit the ground from the
> pain, blood, and the scrape in the jersey, but I have no idea if any
> part of my head also touched ground.

If you whack your head, you'll know. Helmet or no helmet.
They are impact mitigators, not a get-out-of-pain-free card.

"Was he wearing a helmet?" is guaranteed flame war
territory, even when the injury is to a helmet-covered
area, and more so if not. As set out by the Treaty of
Guadeloupe Hidalgo, helmet flame wars belong in
rec.bicycles.tech, not rbr. Thank you for your attention
in this matter.

Ben
rbr Blue Helmet Peacekeepers

Michael Press

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Aug 15, 2006, 2:10:01 AM8/15/06
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In article
<1155604900....@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Mike Kaiser" <mikeka...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> dbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I have been unable to find a source that says one way or another.
> >
> > thanks,
>

> I was recently sideswiped by a trailer being pulled behind a pickup
> truck and knocked off my bike at low speed. In relating the tale to
> coworkers, relatives, etc., I've been asked about twenty times whether
> I was wearing a helmet. Not a single person has asked me if I hit my
> head.

I'm sorry you were struck, and sorry you were treated
heartlessly. You may find that the healing process is
accelerated if you increase the distance and lower the
temperature of those relationships.

--
Michael Press

Donald Munro

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Aug 15, 2006, 4:38:11 AM8/15/06
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CowPunk wrote:
> Roll models are usually reserved for crash test dummies, but if you
> wish to use a Frenchman for it, that's OK by me.

Dumbass,
They're more likely to use up rbr posters before they use any frenchman.

meb

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Aug 15, 2006, 5:04:49 AM8/15/06
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But for the narrowly focussed issue on the nogin attire of a preeminant
retired racer, rbr is an appropriate location.


--
meb

Mark

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Aug 15, 2006, 2:59:03 PM8/15/06
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"John Forrest Tomlinson" <usenet...@jt10000.com> wrote in message
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> On 14 Aug 2006 13:52:45 -0700, dbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>And if he wasn't wearing a helmet, that's news of its own, depending on
>>how you feel about using Virenque as a role model.
>
> Role model for what?

Oh, he just misspelled roll model (as in "Even if you land face first, you
can roll ")

Simon Brooke

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Aug 15, 2006, 4:48:26 PM8/15/06
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in message <ub-dnTOmj8t_jXzZ...@comcast.com>, h squared
('clevistoreply...@comcast.net') wrote:

Yes. Far more people die of accidents in their own homes than die in
bicycle accidents. And a bicycle helmet is perfectly engineered to deal
with the sort of impact you sustain if you fall out of bed.

No humour was expended in the creation of this post.

--
si...@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; So, before proceeding with definitive screwing, choose the
;; position most congenital.
-- instructions for fitting bicycle handlebars

h squared

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Aug 15, 2006, 8:16:27 PM8/15/06
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ST wrote:

that one is way better, (um, especially for rbr, mumblemumble..)

i've stolen it and saved it so you will probably see it again :)

h

h squared

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Aug 15, 2006, 8:22:20 PM8/15/06
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Simon Brooke wrote:

> And a bicycle helmet is perfectly engineered to deal
> with the sort of impact you sustain if you fall out of bed.

see, the problem for me with what you wrote isn't that i don't believe
you, it's that according to some on rbr, i am way way more likely to be
falling into bed than out of bed.

> No humour was expended in the creation of this post.

Thank God! There's a humor shortage after all, and we all need to
conserve when we can.

Serious Heather


ilan

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Aug 15, 2006, 8:49:31 PM8/15/06
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Only if you want to damage your keyboard.

-ilan

RonSonic

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Aug 15, 2006, 11:28:58 PM8/15/06
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Where's the helmet with the handlebars and whose turn is it to wear it?

Ron

Ewoud Dronkert

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Aug 16, 2006, 2:29:04 AM8/16/06
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:28:58 -0400, RonSonic wrote:
> Where's the helmet with the handlebars and whose turn is it to wear it?

It's not a helmet but would this do?
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ewoud/cycling/babesonbikes/bikeriderssextoy.jpg

--
E. Dronkert

Donald Munro

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Aug 16, 2006, 3:38:07 AM8/16/06
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h squared wrote:
> see, the problem for me with what you wrote isn't that i don't believe
> you, it's that according to some on rbr, i am way way more likely to be
> falling into bed than out of bed.

Consider yourself lucky that sprinters don't dope.

meb

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Aug 16, 2006, 4:01:20 AM8/16/06
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I wonder what T/E ratios are achieved after riding one of those.
:cool:


--
meb

Stu Fleming

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Aug 16, 2006, 4:32:48 AM8/16/06
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May I propose thew Seattle Position: on the floor, beside the bed, with
the donuts...?

Dan Connelly

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Aug 16, 2006, 1:27:18 PM8/16/06
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Simon Brooke

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Aug 16, 2006, 3:04:28 PM8/16/06
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in message <F_GdndO1Z5Gg-H_Z...@comcast.com>, h squared
('clevistoreply...@comcast.net') wrote:

> Simon Brooke wrote:
>
>> And a bicycle helmet is perfectly engineered to deal
>> with the sort of impact you sustain if you fall out of bed.
>
> see, the problem for me with what you wrote isn't that i don't believe
> you, it's that according to some on rbr, i am way way more likely to be
> falling into bed

Yes, but /whose/ bed? Enquiring pervs want to know!

>> No humour was expended in the creation of this post.
>
> Thank God! There's a humor shortage after all, and we all need to
> conserve when we can.

I'm a founder member of the Campaign to Conserve Humour. I won't rest
until all the humour in the world is bottled up in jam jars.

There's nae Gods, an there's precious few heroes
but there's plenty on the dole in th Land o th Leal;
And it's time now, tae sweep the future clear o
th lies o a past that we know wis never real.

Donald Munro

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Aug 16, 2006, 3:21:06 PM8/16/06
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h squared wrote:
>>> see, the problem for me with what you wrote isn't that i don't believe
>>> you, it's that according to some on rbr, i am way way more likely to be
>>> falling into bed than out of bed.

Donald Munro wrote:
>> Consider yourself lucky that sprinters don't dope.

Dan Connelly wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djamolidine_Abdoujaparov

I doubt if h**2's bed would survive an Abdoujaparov crash.

Fred Fredburger

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Aug 16, 2006, 8:10:13 PM8/16/06
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If I am to believe all that is written in RBR (and I DO, I really,
REALLY do) than an Abdoujaparov crash would only count as minor action
in Heather's bedroom.

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