Norm Chad is an asshole
z
Q. The Tour de Georgia, billed as North America's premier cycling event,
has been canceled two straight years. What does this say about the state
of cycling?
Dan O'Neil
Carmel, Ind.
A. I don't know what it says about the state of cycling, but it tells me
the state of Georgia doesn't want to clog its roads with bicyclists and
discarded bottles of water for a full week.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/chad/6790235.html
Amit Ghosh
kool-aid drinker,
it hurts when you hear the truth.
WTF
<No...@not.ca> wrote:
They prefer to have the roads clogged with drunk rednecks and discarded
EMPTY 40oz bottles of beer...
Scott
I saw a list online of the words/phrases that should be phased out of
use in the coming new year. Kool-aid drinker wasn't on the list, but
should be.
BTW, it appears you really dislike anything about bicycle racing and
anyone who is a fan of bicycle racing. Why are you on a bicycle
racing forum, except to give everyone else crap?
GoneBeforeMyTime
"Scott" <hendric...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 1, 1:07 pm, Amit Ghosh <amit.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 1, 2:47 pm, z <N...@not.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Q. The Tour de Georgia, billed as North America's premier cycling event,
> > has been canceled two straight years. What does this say about the state
> > of cycling?
>
> > Dan O'Neil
> > Carmel, Ind.
>
> > A. I don't know what it says about the state of cycling, but it tells me
> > the state of Georgia doesn't want to clog its roads with bicyclists and
> > discarded bottles of water for a full week.
>
> >http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/chad/6790235.html
>
> kool-aid drinker,
>
> it hurts when you hear the truth.
>BTW, it appears you really dislike anything about bicycle racing and
>anyone who is a fan of bicycle racing. Why are you on a bicycle
>racing forum, except to give everyone else crap?
I think he was/is a coach in cycling for various things like TT, or other
things IIRC, from reading elsewhere. If I understand his philosophy on
cycling correctly he believes professionals should not be paid anything, but
that would make them amateurs by definition. If they make money by proxy, or
already have money, then I guess that's ok. That way, the sport would be
like Baseball in the old days before big money entered the sport and people
played the game for fun, competition and because they just loved the game.
In other words I think its a take on the idea bike racing should be for
personal achievement, but the commercial aspects should be done away with
like TV, sponsors, big money salaries, and probably especially fake role
models, etc. In a world like that players would be less likely to take drugs
and fans who came out to see the races would be real fans, not TV
brainwashed popcorn couch potatoes, and idiots roadside in green costumes
trying to jab giant needles into your thigh. No more circus spectacle. The
pressure would be off riders to perform for sponsors, and no need to take
drugs since there would be no money, no cash prizes or salaries. That
belonged to a different time and a different era. Yeah, it's a nice idea,
but nobody at any level of the sport would go for that today. Money, and
especially big money drives nearly every aspect of the beast in this day and
age. Everything is so costly these days, nickel and dimed.
Funny the government said no to the TOC at Yosemite. That would of probably
brought in much more revenue then the daily tourist dollars.
Ryan Cousineau
<891962b6-d60c-478d...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Scott <hendric...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Well, Amit is right. It's fun for us aficionados to cheer on big-league
bike races, but the reality is that a lot of these events, especially
Johnny-come-latelys like the TdG, are operated on thin financial backing
and with lukewarm local support.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcou...@gmail.com http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
Amit Ghosh
> "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> If I understand his philosophy on
> cycling correctly he believes professionals should not be paid anything, but
> that would make them amateurs by definition. If they make money by proxy, or
> already have money, then I guess that's ok. That way, the sport would be
> like Baseball in the old days before big money entered the sport and people
> played the game for fun, competition and because they just loved the game.
dumbass,
i'm not opposed to people getting paid on principle or anything like
that. if a coffee shop or a software company was making a lot of money
you would expect them to fairly compensate the employees that help
generate the revenue. that's how it works in big time pro sports. bike
racers aren't performing a pubic service like social workers or
medical researchers that the public will feel it has an obligation to
support either.
the current situation is that a cycling team doesn't generate a lot of
revenue apart from the very top tier of the sport and it isn't likely
to change in the near future. so if the teams can't make money how can
you expect the riders to make money ?
instead of wringing our hands and waiting for the next angel-investor/
michael ball/stooge with deep pockets to drink the kool-aid we should
figure out how to keep our sport going in the absence of mass-media
coverage and the advertising revenue that goes with it.
there are thousands of people who are passionate and even very good at
something, like writing or photography or acting or art or music (or
bike racing), but they haven't attained the popularity or there isn't
the demand for what they do that they can make a lot of money at it.
in that case you have to consider that the activity is mainly an
avenue for personal development.
GoneBeforeMyTime
"Amit Ghosh" <amit....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 1, 10:57 pm, "GoneBeforeMyTime" <F...@EuroFans.com> wrote:
> "Scott" <hendricks_sc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> If I understand his philosophy on
> cycling correctly he believes professionals should not be paid anything,
> but
> that would make them amateurs by definition. If they make money by proxy,
> or
> already have money, then I guess that's ok. That way, the sport would be
> like Baseball in the old days before big money entered the sport and
> people
> played the game for fun, competition and because they just loved the game.
>dumbass,
>instead of wringing our hands and waiting for the next angel-investor/
>michael ball/stooge with deep pockets to drink the kool-aid we should
>figure out how to keep our sport going in the absence of mass-media
>coverage and the advertising revenue that goes with it.
And what would be the solution then to this problem? Grassroots
contributions to keep the sport going across the board without those big
payouts? Roller Derby girls raise quite a bit of money for their sport and
they don't get paid either, but someone told me once why does bike racing
need all those crazy fans? Why not just let them race as sport and
competition between themselves. Sounds bizzare but I have heard some odd
stances on what cycling should be like today, instead of what it is. No more
logos and the drumbeat of advertising for big business, pure cycling for
personal achievement without all those vices.
Donald Munro
> i'm not opposed to people getting paid on principle or anything like
> that. if a coffee shop or a software company was making a lot of money
> you would expect them to fairly compensate the employees that help
> generate the revenue. that's how it works in big time pro sports. bike
> racers aren't performing a pubic service like social workers or
> medical researchers that the public will feel it has an obligation to
> support either.
Pubic services are overrated.
William Asher
@donaldm.homeip.net:
Did you mean like working for VISTA, the Peace Corps, or as a rural
doctor in a public health service, or did you mean getting a blowjob in a
park or something like that?
--
Bill Asher
William Asher
> Amit Ghosh wrote:
And this whole thread is retarded. Why would anyone expect that someone
whose columns are published under the byline of "The Couch Slouch" would
have anything useful to say about anything related to bicycling? The
closest he might be of relevance to this newsgroup is when he talks about
his ex-wives, or pays someone $1.35(US) for a decent smart-ass question.
(I'm guessing there are a lot of women pro-racers who make 6 figures
submitting questions to Norm Chad, which is where GBMT gets his salary
estimates.)
--
Bill Asher
Donald Munro
>>> racers aren't performing a pubic service like social workers or
Donald Munro wrote:
>> Pubic services are overrated.
William Asher wrote:
> Did you mean like working for VISTA, the Peace Corps, or as a rural
> doctor in a public health service,
Or a Pahrump hooker.
> or did you mean getting a blowjob in a park or something like that?
OK some pubic services suck.