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From: Dan O <danover...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Signs of progress
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On Jul 28, 11:04 am, "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid> wrote:
> Per Frank Krygowski:
>
> >Seems to me that speed limit signs wouldn't work as well as traffic
> >calming devices like, say, speed humps.  As discussed around here in
> >years past, they seem to work in a couple residential neighborhoods
> >around here that used to suffer from fast cut-through traffic. And I saw
> >quite a few similar things recently in France.  They didn't cause me any
> >grief while cycling.
>
> >Anybody here with more experience with them?
>
> My limited experience supports yours.
>
> On speed bumps, a little cut that will allow passage of a bicycle
> tire is a nice touch.   I don't know if that is the intended
> purpose, but I do see them.
>
> Anything where the vehicle has to pass within N inches of some
> object seems to have a significant slowing-down effect on motor
> vehicles.
>
> Dunno what N is, but I have seen strategically-placed large (as
> in containing a small tree) planters that worked well.
>
> The ones I saw were staggered left/right so distance N would be
> on the driver's side for one planter and the passenger side for
> the next planter.
>
> Thinking there would be pix of this all over the place, I Googled
> a bit... but was surprised to come up empty.

I don't think the objective here is to calm traffic.  These are
already relatively calm, "Neighborhood Greenways".  I think the
objective is to institutionalize and maintain / further this
character.  I for one am just pleased to see the city using its
authority specifically for the stated objective of making streets more
hospitable for bicyclists, in specific oppostion to the inclination of
the car culture.

I don't like speed bumps.  Trees are nice.