Did I really see that?
AustinMN
I was crossing the Coon Rapids Dam (crosses the Mississippi river in Coon
Rapids Regional Park, outside Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA) Saturday on foot.
Three adult male persons on bicycles (almost said cyclists, but that would
have given them too much credit) were approaching from the other direction.
Major phred factor in force, with seats way too low (and splayed knees to
prove it), blue jeans, sweatshirts and I think one T-shirt.
I was with my family and almost embarrassed by the sight when I realized
they were passing a cell phone back and forth, and apparently trying to type
a text message as they rode. But that wasn't the real surprise...
Just as they passed, I noticed that the guy with the cell phone at that
moment also had the biggest cigar I'd seen in years sticking out his mouth.
Yes, it was lit.
Austin
David Reuteler
> Just as they passed, I noticed that the guy with the cell phone at that
> moment also had the biggest cigar I'd seen in years sticking out his mouth.
> Yes, it was lit.
eh? a good percentage of the messengers smoke (cigarettes i mean) .. some
on the bike .. their races should really be split up into smoker and non-
smoker categories. some of the younger ones (with relatively pristine
lungs) can really haul despite a pack a day habit. cigars are a lot
easier (no inhale) .. i've done it while riding.
--
david reuteler
Rick Onanian
wrote:
>Just as they passed, I noticed that the guy with the cell phone at that
>moment also had the biggest cigar I'd seen in years sticking out his mouth.
>Yes, it was lit.
Wow. I probably wouldn't get more than a meter down the road with
the saddle all the way down, blue jeans, sweatshirt, etc while
smoking a cigar and text messaging. Sounds like some pretty skilled
riders, if you ask me.
--
Rick Onanian
Luigi de Guzman
wrote:
That's what they make lowrider bikes for...!
-Luigi
Zoot Katz
"AustinMN" <taco...@Xatt.net> wrote:
>Just as they passed, I noticed that the guy with the cell phone at that
>moment also had the biggest cigar I'd seen in years sticking out his mouth.
>Yes, it was lit.
>
>Austin
So? They were out playing on a FMUP where they belonged.
No style points unless he had a beer holder on the handlebars and a
cooler on the rack.
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zk
Chris Zacho The Wheelman
hard two miles! LOL
"May you have the wind at your back.
And a really low gear for the hills!"
Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"
Chris'Z Corner
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Luigi de Guzman
Zacho "The Wheelman") wrote:
>They were probably on their way back to their Cadillac Escapades after a
>hard two miles! LOL
"Escalade," which is a technical term meaning "to storm a
fortification by means of scaling-ladders"
-Luigi
footnote
Cipher
--
Brian Huntley
>
> "Escalade," which is a technical term meaning "to storm a
> fortification by means of scaling-ladders"
>
horizontally) which is a little closer to their supposed use.
So, do the Caddies have a ladder frame? I've yet to pass under one to
check.
Rick Onanian
>> "Escalade," which is a technical term meaning "to storm a
>> fortification by means of scaling-ladders"
Huntley) wrote:
>It can also mean crossing a moat or ditch via ladder (used
>horizontally) which is a little closer to their supposed use.
I don't think there's anybody with any such illusion, not even
somebody in the marketing department, or any customer. They're worst
expectation is to carry bicycles down a dirt road.
Speaking of which, I saw somebody with a Chevy Tahoe (same vehicle
with less luxury) with a road bike mounted to a roof rack, your
average Thule or Yakima. How much trouble would somebody really
want to go to just to avoid putting the bike in the carpeted cargo
area? That's a damn tall roof to reach up and secure a bike -- it
probably had to be done with a ladder.
>So, do the Caddies have a ladder frame? I've yet to pass under one to
>check.
Yes. It's built on the GM full size pickup truck platform (as is the
Tahoe mentioned above).
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Rick Onanian
Luigi de Guzman
Huntley) wrote:
>Luigi de Guzman <luigi...@cox.net> wrote in message news:<lpo740h72j5uu39t7...@4ax.com>...
>>
>> "Escalade," which is a technical term meaning "to storm a
>> fortification by means of scaling-ladders"
>>
>It can also mean crossing a moat or ditch via ladder (used
>horizontally) which is a little closer to their supposed use.
The closest to a ditch those barges get is the mall parking lot.
-Luigi
now, circumvallation--that's a word!
Gooserider
Murray road bike, playing Grateful Dead on his boom box, while smoking a
doobie.....
Craig Brozefsky
mad stylee
> I've seen the same old hippie on our local Rails to Trails pedaling an old
> Murray road bike, playing Grateful Dead on his boom box, while smoking a
> doobie.....
>
>
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Sincerely, Craig Brozefsky <cr...@red-bean.com>
David Reuteler
god bless america! or quite possibly canada.
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david reuteler
reuteler at visi dot com
Pete
"Rick Onanian" <spam...@cox.net> wrote
>
> I don't think there's anybody with any such illusion, not even
> somebody in the marketing department, or any customer. They're worst
> expectation is to carry bicycles down a dirt road.
A lot are under the impression that an SUV is as good or better than a
minivan at carrying people/stuff. Which is not the case.
Pete
TheCyclist2002
"Major phred factor in force....blue jeans, sweatshirts and I think one
T-shirt."
Yep, that's the attitude I love about "cyclists;" if you're not wearing the
latest $200 shorts or bibs, then you just ain't a cyclist.
Now could someone please tell just where in the hell it says that if someone is
wearing bluejeans and a sweatshirt it makes them any less of a cyclist than
someone who has the most expensive outfit, and most expensive bike to match???
No wonder so few people take up "cycling."
AJC
Luigi de Guzman
wrote:
having ridden in bluejeans, I have to say that the pain that these
cause after a while in the saddle limits range. If i'm wearing jeans
and on a bicycle, then I'm on a quick ride to the store or the library
or whatever.
I've nothing against being dressed correctly for a given situation;
if the situation is an audax ride, bluejeans aren't going to do. They
will hurt.
>
>No wonder so few people take up "cycling."
>
True. But a lot fo those people also have bicycles. It's tough to
reach out to them and get them to ride on the road, with traffic,
obeying the laws, though....
*sigh*
-Luigi
>AJC
Ben Pfaff
> having ridden in bluejeans, I have to say that the pain that these
> cause after a while in the saddle limits range. If i'm wearing jeans
> and on a bicycle, then I'm on a quick ride to the store or the library
> or whatever.
I think this depends on the person, or perhaps on the jeans.
I've gone on 20 mile and longer rides in blue jeans and it's
never been a problem for me.
--
Ben Pfaff
email: b...@cs.stanford.edu
web: http://benpfaff.org
Tom Keats
People /should/ be able to ride, and dress "normal".
For short, utilitarian hops, it's even possible.
But the fact remains that for round trip distances of
6-10 miles or more, one has to wear attire that best
interfaces the human body with the vehicle. With
bicycles, that means chamoised shorts, no cotton,
and no copper jeans rivets.
Otherwise, PicAssO forRestOfLifeO. Only other option
would be operacion majorca with a sizzling Hyfrecator,
burningly painful sitz baths, and medical personnel
passing by and looking amusedly at you with your ass
squatted in a large bowl of epsom salt warm water.
Cycling is serious beeswax.
Just 'cuz in the movie dusters ppl readily hop onto
horses like we jump into taxis, doesn't mean horseback
riding is a piece of cake, either. Same with bikes.
Take care of your ass, and it will take care of you.
Don't take care of it, and it'll take you out.
cheers,
Tom
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David Kerber
says...
> Luigi de Guzman <luigi...@cox.net> writes:
>
> > having ridden in bluejeans, I have to say that the pain that these
> > cause after a while in the saddle limits range. If i'm wearing jeans
> > and on a bicycle, then I'm on a quick ride to the store or the library
> > or whatever.
>
> I think this depends on the person, or perhaps on the jeans.
> I've gone on 20 mile and longer rides in blue jeans and it's
> never been a problem for me.
A seat with a cutout in the middle makes a huge difference here.
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Rick Onanian
wrote:
>Otherwise, PicAssO forRestOfLifeO. Only other option
>would be operacion majorca with a sizzling Hyfrecator,
Put your dentures back in. Your words are coming out as gibberish.
--
Rick Onanian
Curtis L. Russell
wrote:
>But the fact remains that for round trip distances of
>6-10 miles or more, one has to wear attire that best
>interfaces the human body with the vehicle. With
>bicycles, that means chamoised shorts, no cotton,
>and no copper jeans rivets.
For 6-10 miles? I would agree that blue jeans won't work, but a whole
lot of other non-cycling clothes will, shoes excepted (and that's
personal preference). Make it over, say 40 miles, and that in a
moderately continuous mode and I'll agree that cycling specific
clothing makes a difference.
And if you ride a recumbent, it is even less of a difference and a
wider range of 'normal' clothing works perfectly well. The Trek 1200
is a more finicky ride in that regard (starting with, I don't think I
could get my butt onto the seat in bluejeans).
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
Stephen Harding
My typical summer riding attire is T-shirt, jeans (long or short)
and Tevas.
This gets me comfortably through my 22-40 mile round trip commute,
to travels across the country. I find it very difficult to believe
someone would feel specialized riding attire a requirement for a
distance of only 6-10 miles.
Of course it is all what you get used to. Your body will adjust
to thinking virtually anything is normal and comfortable if you
give it enough time. But I think the need for "proper" bicyclewear
is driven by someone's sense of style above anything else. (The
"Fab Factor"?).
Yes a riding jersey of light polartec (early spring) with a high
zip collar, slightly longer length in the rear, and a pocket at
the back is clearly a great design for bicycling, but hardly a
real requirement for comfort. Same goes for jeans vs. lycra.
SMH
Luigi de Guzman
<har...@cs.umass.edu> wrote:
>Of course it is all what you get used to. Your body will adjust
>to thinking virtually anything is normal and comfortable if you
>give it enough time. But I think the need for "proper" bicyclewear
>is driven by someone's sense of style above anything else. (The
>"Fab Factor"?).
You have a perineum of steel!
Jeans are fine for trips around town, when you're on and off the
saddle a lot anyway for stoplights, stop signs, heavy traffic,
errands, etc.
Extended distances in 'street' clothes for me means better trousers,
with less irritating seams in 'difficult' places.
I'm not very Fab-ulous, but I do appreciate a pair of bike shorts. I
don't wear jerseys, as I can't see why I should shell out for them
over the stuff I already have.
-Luigi
Peter Cole
> Jeans are fine for trips around town, when you're on and off the
> saddle a lot anyway for stoplights, stop signs, heavy traffic,
> errands, etc.
>
> Extended distances in 'street' clothes for me means better trousers,
> with less irritating seams in 'difficult' places.
Yeah, I have a pair of "warm-ups", black, side zippers, stretch fabric,
elastic waist. They look pretty much like a cross between regular & sweat
pants. They're fine for errands, I can wear them with shorts under for long
rides, or with just briefs for short ones.
> I'm not very Fab-ulous, but I do appreciate a pair of bike shorts. I
> don't wear jerseys, as I can't see why I should shell out for them
> over the stuff I already have.
I've pretty much stopped wearing jerseys (too bad, as I have a drawer full). I
find t-shirts to be much more comfortable, in hot weather especially. I do
prefer the synthetic ones, though. Price-wise, they're about the same as
cotton anyway. Cotton works if you can keep your sweat under some threshold --
I usually can't.
Luigi de Guzman
<peter_cole_n...@comcast.net> wrote:
>"Luigi de Guzman" <luigi...@cox.net> wrote
>
>> Jeans are fine for trips around town, when you're on and off the
>> saddle a lot anyway for stoplights, stop signs, heavy traffic,
>> errands, etc.
>>
>> Extended distances in 'street' clothes for me means better trousers,
>> with less irritating seams in 'difficult' places.
>
>Yeah, I have a pair of "warm-ups", black, side zippers, stretch fabric,
>elastic waist. They look pretty much like a cross between regular & sweat
>pants. They're fine for errands, I can wear them with shorts under for long
>rides, or with just briefs for short ones.
I find I can do very well in khakis, provided I take care not to foul
them on the chainrings. Also, in early spring and autumn, my light
woolen trousers to admirably well.
In fact, it's easier to cycle on nearly anything I can wear to church
than in bluejeans.
>
>> I'm not very Fab-ulous, but I do appreciate a pair of bike shorts. I
>> don't wear jerseys, as I can't see why I should shell out for them
>> over the stuff I already have.
>
>I've pretty much stopped wearing jerseys (too bad, as I have a drawer full). I
>find t-shirts to be much more comfortable, in hot weather especially. I do
>prefer the synthetic ones, though. Price-wise, they're about the same as
>cotton anyway. Cotton works if you can keep your sweat under some threshold --
>I usually can't.
It isn't too bad in the heat of the summertime. If you get a cold
afternoon breeze though, cotton can be chilly.
-Luigi
sartor resartus?
Jay
><snip>> But the fact remains that for round trip distances of
> 6-10 miles or more, one has to wear attire that best
> interfaces the human body with the vehicle. With
> bicycles, that means chamoised shorts, no cotton,
With diamond frame bikes with traditional saddle seats ...chamois shorts are
needed.
As some of us ride recumbent bikes, cross-country ski-clothes in winter and
breathable sports clothes in summer can be adequate.
Luigi de Guzman
>>Tom Keats at tomk...@hotmail.com wrote>
>><snip>> But the fact remains that for round trip distances of
>> 6-10 miles or more, one has to wear attire that best
>> interfaces the human body with the vehicle. With
>> bicycles, that means chamoised shorts, no cotton,
>> and no copper jeans rivets.<snip>
>
>With diamond frame bikes with traditional saddle seats ...chamois shorts are
>needed.
*not* for short trips covering short distances with many stops. If I
had to get my goofy clothes on every time I wanted to throw my leg
over a top tube and ride to the library or the cornershop then the
whole idea of cycling-as-transport is ludicrous.
-Luigi
Jens Kr. Kirkebø
<luigi...@cox.net> wrote:
>>><snip>> But the fact remains that for round trip distances of
>>> 6-10 miles or more, one has to wear attire that best
>>> interfaces the human body with the vehicle. With
>>> bicycles, that means chamoised shorts, no cotton,
>>> and no copper jeans rivets.<snip>
>>
>>With diamond frame bikes with traditional saddle seats ...chamois shorts are
>>needed.
>
>*not* for short trips covering short distances with many stops. If I
>had to get my goofy clothes on every time I wanted to throw my leg
>over a top tube and ride to the library or the cornershop then the
>whole idea of cycling-as-transport is ludicrous.
Hell, I commute 15 miles each day year round and often do 15-20 mile
rides and I don't own any cycling-specific clothes at all. Then again,
I ride a FS MTB with knobby tires, not a road bike.
Fabrizio Mazzoleni
"Luigi de Guzman" <luigi...@cox.net> wrote in message news:55b150hputni1e5af...@4ax.com...
> whole idea of cycling-as-transport is ludicrous.
>
Hey, we agree on something!