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Sascha Bates

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Apr 5, 2003, 7:41:00 PM4/5/03
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I've been thinking about a new road bike. I've had my REI Novara Carema for
three years and am ready to upgrade to something a little spiffier. So,
I've been shopping and looking for something nifty and attractive out there.
I'm petite at 5'1" and have a pretty short torso besides. I'm currently
riding a 43cm bike and I like the WSD design.

So I looked at Terry bikes, I looked at Trek bikes and I kept on looking.
Can someone PLEASE tell me why all WSD bikes come in pastel only? Who says
that because I'm a chick, I have to have a pink bike for crying out loud!
If I have to look at one more powder blue or lavender bike, I will vomit. I
can't say I'm terribly attracted to white either. White bikes are like
white cars--they never look clean.

So, the flip side of this is, why do guys get all the cool colors? I can't
even think about one of their bikes since they seem to start in the 50cm
range. Yuck. I hope someone from the cycling companies takes a look at
these news groups once in a while. I'd like them to understand that just
because I'm a woman, I don't want a pastel bike. I want orange or yellow,
or that really nifty maroon that the men's Allez was a few years ago. I'd
even settle for that Trek grey, red and black.

Ok. I feel better...needed to rant. But I'm still not thinking I want to
buy a bike as long as pastel is my only choice. It may be shallow, but I'm
the one who'll have to look at it for the next 10 years!

Sascha
(cranky cyclist)

Marlene Blanshay

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Apr 5, 2003, 8:24:16 PM4/5/03
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In article <UGKja.23273$5j.3...@twister.kc.rr.com>, "Sascha Bates"
<nospamsa...@mn.rr.com> wrote:

I hear ya, but I don't have your problem because I'm average height. I
hate pink anyways, maybe if you're on Team Telekom but aside from that,
yeccch. I hate pastels. Did you not like the Treks? I saw one at my LBS,
one of those women's bikes specifically made for small women like you,
they even have brakes designed for small hands. And the colors were not
pastel, it was a normal paint job. Did you give it a try? I guess it could
also be a money thing, I don't know how expensive they are.

This reminds me of the time I was in a Warner Brother's store (we don't
have them in canada that I know of ) and I wanted to get a t-shirt with
Daffy Duck (my favorite) or maybe the singing frog or even the Coyote! But
all the girls and women's t-shirts had Petunia pig or Tweety Bird. I hate
Tweety Bird. Even when i was a kid I hated Tweety. So I looked at guy's
t-shirts but they didn't have a t-shirt with Daffy Duck in any size that
would fit me. But why do they assume all females like Tweety or Petunia
pig!

In the meantime, you could try sending your rants to bike companies- tell
them what you think! Email or call customer service. It can't hurt. And
it's not shallow at all, it's your money and you're right, you have to
ride it and look at it!

Cori

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Apr 5, 2003, 9:00:01 PM4/5/03
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There's a woman specific Specialized Allez Vita that's maroon with
burgundy zebra. Very nice.
Or you could do what I did and get a Specialized Sequoia. Silver.

Cori

one of the six billion

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Apr 5, 2003, 9:18:30 PM4/5/03
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Because woman get the cool clothes and shoes.


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Mike Jacoubowsky

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Apr 6, 2003, 12:42:10 AM4/6/03
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> So I looked at Terry bikes, I looked at Trek bikes and I kept on looking.
> Can someone PLEASE tell me why all WSD bikes come in pastel only? Who
says
> that because I'm a chick, I have to have a pink bike for crying out loud!
> If I have to look at one more powder blue or lavender bike, I will vomit.
I
> can't say I'm terribly attracted to white either. White bikes are like
> white cars--they never look clean.

Funny thing there- many guys wish *they* could have a bike with the paint
job found on the 2300WSD. It's almost the same color as the original OCLV.
And the 2200WSD? Hardly pastel... very white white with dark-red details.
The only one that might qualify as close to pastel might be the 2000WSD.

But the thing is, no matter what color TREK chooses, many will wish it was
something else. Doesn't matter if it's men's or women's. The safest thing
might be to have both bikes the same color, but that causes considerable
confusion on the sales floor, with customers potentially getting set up with
an incorrect bike.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


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Ryan Cousineau

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Apr 6, 2003, 12:42:17 AM4/6/03
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In article <b6o2pn$747l6$1...@ID-158300.news.dfncis.de>,

"one of the six billion" <varuna...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


> "Sascha Bates" <nospamsa...@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:UGKja.23273$5j.3...@twister.kc.rr.com...
> > I've been thinking about a new road bike. I've had my REI Novara Carema
> for
> > three years and am ready to upgrade to something a little spiffier. So,
> > I've been shopping and looking for something nifty and attractive out
> there.
> > I'm petite at 5'1" and have a pretty short torso besides. I'm currently
> > riding a 43cm bike and I like the WSD design.
> >
> > So I looked at Terry bikes, I looked at Trek bikes and I kept on looking.
> > Can someone PLEASE tell me why all WSD bikes come in pastel only? Who

> > So, the flip side of this is, why do guys get all the cool colors? I
> can't

> Because woman get the cool clothes and shoes.

Mortifying confession time: I wear a boring red jersey that I got a good
deal on, but several times I have gone over the jersey racks at some
local shop, found what I thought was a pretty nice jersey, only to see
it was another Sugoi women's jersey.

And I know what you're thinking, buy it anyways, but I really hope the
cut wouldn't fit my upper body properly, and I'm not willing to find out.

-RjC.
--
Ryan Cousineau, rcou...@sfu.ca http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

Luigi de Guzman

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Apr 6, 2003, 3:30:47 AM4/6/03
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"Sascha Bates" <nospamsa...@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<UGKja.23273$5j.3...@twister.kc.rr.com>...
> I've been thinking about a new road bike. I've had my REI Novara Carema for
> three years and am ready to upgrade to something a little spiffier. So,
> I've been shopping and looking for something nifty and attractive out there.
> I'm petite at 5'1" and have a pretty short torso besides. I'm currently
> riding a 43cm bike and I like the WSD

Fuji does an Ace SE in 43cm with no bias to colour. But then, you're
probably aiming higher than that.

Wish I could help you out. I know Jamis does bikes (in not too
objectionable colours) from about 47cm (small enough to warrant a 26"
front/700C back combination on that model of the Aurora, e.g.) so you
might want to give that a try. I have a 2001 Aurora which I like, but
then, I'm not very sporty.

& all the lycra goddesses /I/ see seem to be riding non-pastel bikes.

but if you've got the cash you could always go for this:

http://www.merlinbike.com/english/bikes/cielo.html

I'm sure the 'custom' option would do you fine. & looks pretty flash
with a 'make your motorized friends faint with shock' pricetag.

(me, I'd probably break the bike after a ride--not because I'm that
strong a rider, but because I'm just that fat...)

-Luigi
*I* et all the pies.

wafflycathcsdirtycatlitter

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Apr 6, 2003, 5:41:51 AM4/6/03
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The Bianchi ML3 Al Donna Mirage comes in Bianchi Celeste or ... bright red. So
not all are girlie pastels :)

Cheers, helen s
(my bianchi is celeste & yellow)

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jchase

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Apr 6, 2003, 9:55:26 AM4/6/03
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Sascha Bates wrote:

> So I looked at Terry bikes, I looked at Trek bikes and I kept on looking.
> Can someone PLEASE tell me why all WSD bikes come in pastel only? Who says
> that because I'm a chick, I have to have a pink bike for crying out loud!

> Sascha
> (cranky cyclist)

Huh?- I just scanned a local shop's online catalogue, and found woman's
road bikes in silver, blue, and red/silver (including Trek)- couldn't
find any pink bikes except in very lowend price ranges. Then I checked
Terry's site and the only unusual color I found was "orchid", which is a
nice enough color, and definitely NOT "pink".

I do admit, however that the MTB's tend to have the more outrageous schemes.

rick

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Apr 6, 2003, 10:23:24 AM4/6/03
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"Sascha Bates" <nospamsa...@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<UGKja.23273$5j.3...@twister.kc.rr.com>...
>
> So I looked at Terry bikes, I looked at Trek bikes and I kept on looking.
> Can someone PLEASE tell me why all WSD bikes come in pastel only? Who says
> that because I'm a chick, I have to have a pink bike for crying out loud!
> If I have to look at one more powder blue or lavender bike, I will vomit. I
> can't say I'm terribly attracted to white either. White bikes are like
> white cars--they never look clean.
>
>
> Sascha
> (cranky cyclist)


Try Cannondale. Even though there yearly models come in two colors
choice, you can order a custom paint job.

Gary Smiley

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Apr 6, 2003, 10:52:05 AM4/6/03
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In this brainwashed country, they just assume that boys like Daffy Duck and girls
like Petunia Pig. But it goes way far beyond that- look at how other things are
marketed- they know what the public will "like" years ahead of time- like music,
cars, and even war.

Sascha

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Apr 6, 2003, 11:11:44 AM4/6/03
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Ok, so I exaggerated a little on the pink thing. It was a symbolic color
for all of the powder blues, etc I'm running into. For instance, Terry's
road bikes this year are french blue, pearl white, blue lagoon, etc... Trek
bikes are cumulus blue (read sky blue), pearl white (with some red trim,
it's true), and coastal blue. There's not a primary color among them. I
have looked at the Specialized Allez Vita and it does have the nifty red and
black design. I just feel very limited in my options. I've seen yellow
treks on bike rides...where are they now?

And while I appreciate the person who suggested the Bianchi bike, I read
their philosphy about the color blue they use, but, IMO, that philosophy
doesn't make the color any less unattractive.

I guess maybe this is the year for blue bikes. I see a lot of the non-wsd
models that are blue as well. Guess I should keep my Carema another year as
it's a very nice, non-pastel, blue. Funny, the only color I've really see
that I liked was the new Carema which is kind of a bright lime green with
creme accents. Unfortunately, I don't like the components offered on that
bike and don't feel that REI did a good job fitting me last time. I watched
my boyfriend at the time get fitted for his Trek at a local shop and we
actually spent the whole afternoon there fitting and accessorizing.

I did just check out the Cannondales, and the R2000 Fem triple is pretty
spiffy looking. A couple of the others are pretty spiffy too! I didn't see
an MSRP but I've got a pretty good feel after window shopping for what
components go on which price range of bike.

I appreciate everyones input and help with my frustration.

Sascha


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wafflycathcsdirtycatlitter

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Apr 6, 2003, 11:14:44 AM4/6/03
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>And while I appreciate the person who suggested the Bianchi bike, I read
>their philosphy about the color blue they use, but, IMO, that philosophy
>doesn't make the color any less unattractive.

They also do red one :) The bianchi "blue" of celeste is, in reality, a very
green colour too.


Cheers, helen s

John Everett

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Apr 6, 2003, 11:53:50 AM4/6/03
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On Sat, 5 Apr 2003 18:41:00 -0600, "Sascha Bates"
<nospamsa...@mn.rr.com> wrote:

>I've been thinking about a new road bike. I've had my REI Novara Carema for
>three years and am ready to upgrade to something a little spiffier. So,
>I've been shopping and looking for something nifty and attractive out there.
>I'm petite at 5'1" and have a pretty short torso besides.

>(snip)


>Can someone PLEASE tell me why all WSD bikes come in pastel only?

How much are you prepared to spend? I have a friend who has a petite
custom Waterford that fits her to a tee. In addition is has one of the
coolest paint jobs I've seen. She designed the paint scheme herself
and Waterford applied it.


jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

mark freedman

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Apr 6, 2003, 11:55:19 AM4/6/03
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"Sascha Bates" <nospamsa...@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<UGKja.23273$5j.3...@twister.kc.rr.com>...

> I've been thinking about a new road bike. I've had my REI Novara Carema for


> three years and am ready to upgrade to something a little spiffier. So,
> I've been shopping and looking for something nifty and attractive out there.
> I'm petite at 5'1" and have a pretty short torso besides. I'm currently
> riding a 43cm bike and I like the WSD design.
>
> So I looked at Terry bikes, I looked at Trek bikes and I kept on looking.
> Can someone PLEASE tell me why all WSD bikes come in pastel only? Who says
> that because I'm a chick, I have to have a pink bike for crying out loud!

See if you can find a Marinoni dealer nearby. You can order
off-the-shelf sizes with custom paint and chrome, and for a bit
extra they'll make a frame to measure. You can choose between
Shimano or Campagnolo as well.

Of course, if Marinoni "made to measure" is like the LAST
mtm suit I bought :-(


> > Sascha
> (cranky cyclist)

Maybe they're just pulling your chain ?

(while we're punning around)

Marlene Blanshay

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Apr 6, 2003, 12:19:42 PM4/6/03
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In article <4534d723.03040...@posting.google.com>,
cd2...@yahoo.ca (mark freedman) wrote:

I should have suggested Marinoni- custom made AND you can get any color
you want. In fact, I have yet to see two with the same paint job!

When I bought my bike a couple of years ago, marinoni was one of the bikes
I tried and liked, although I ultimately got the GT, which I really love.

Mike Jacoubowsky

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Apr 6, 2003, 1:08:47 PM4/6/03
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If price is not an issue, you can order a TREK 5200 through their Project
One program and have a choice of about 12 different paint jobs, most of
which are definitely not "powder" colors or light blue.

For what it's worth, the TREK 2200WSD... the one that's white with dark-red
contrast elements... the one that has a color that is most definitely not
"girly"... doesn't sell. Women either buy the bike above or below, because
they don't like the color. If you're a manufacturer, sometimes you just
can't win!

Mike Latondresse

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Apr 6, 2003, 3:02:58 PM4/6/03
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Ryan Cousineau <rcou...@sfu.ca> wrote in
news:rcousine-AE5C98...@morgoth.sfu.ca:

Go to Cheapskates, consignment bike stuff at Dunbar and 16th, they
always have some jerseys in the back.

Steve Palincsar

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Apr 6, 2003, 6:26:38 PM4/6/03
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On Sun, 06 Apr 2003 11:11:44 -0400, Sascha wrote:

> I guess maybe this is the year for blue bikes. I see a lot of the
> non-wsd models that are blue as well. Guess I should keep my Carema
> another year as it's a very nice, non-pastel, blue. Funny, the only
> color I've really see that I liked was the new Carema which is kind of a
> bright lime green with creme accents. Unfortunately, I don't like the
> components offered on that bike and don't feel that REI did a good job
> fitting me last time. I watched my boyfriend at the time get fitted for
> his Trek at a local shop and we actually spent the whole afternoon there
> fitting and accessorizing.
>
> I did just check out the Cannondales, and the R2000 Fem triple is pretty
> spiffy looking. A couple of the others are pretty spiffy too! I didn't
> see an MSRP but I've got a pretty good feel after window shopping for
> what components go on which price range of bike.
>
> I appreciate everyones input and help with my frustration.

Go for a custom, and get a perfect fit, your choice in components, and the
color you love. There are many fine custom builders who can give you
whatever you like. If you want something you'll never see coming at you
down the road, feel a little adventurous, and also want the assurance of
knowing the builder has a great track record with womens' frames, you
might consider Chas Roberts in the UK. Or, I'm sure you'll find an
excellent builder fairly close to where you live.

Hunrobe

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Apr 6, 2003, 6:22:51 PM4/6/03
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>Ryan Cousineau rcou...@sfu.ca

wrote:

>Mortifying confession time: I wear a boring red jersey that I got a good
>deal on, but several times I have gone over the jersey racks at some
>local shop, found what I thought was a pretty nice jersey, only to see
>it was another Sugoi women's jersey.
>
>And I know what you're thinking, buy it anyways, but I really hope the
>cut wouldn't fit my upper body properly, and I'm not willing to find out.
>
>-RjC.

Next time grab that Sugoi jersey, two or three other jerseys, a pair of
bibshorts and head for the fitting room. If the Sugui jersey fits, buy it and
rip out the tag when you get it home. Just never tell any of your riding
buddies.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Tzahi Ben-Moshe

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Apr 6, 2003, 9:42:56 PM4/6/03
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Sascha wrote:
>just
>because I'm a woman, I don't want a pastel bike. I want orange or yellow,
>or that really nifty maroon that the men's Allez was a few years ago.

Sascha,
I remember seeing a Bianchi Eros Donna last year in a really nice shade of
racing yellow. Maybe those are still around. Don't blame you for not wanting
the girly colors-a lot of the women I know who cycle don't, either. HTH.
Cheers,


Tzahi Ben-Moshe

Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo!

Benjamin Weiner

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Apr 7, 2003, 1:08:27 AM4/7/03
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Steve Palincsar <pali...@his.com> wrote:

> Go for a custom, and get a perfect fit, your choice in components, and the
> color you love. There are many fine custom builders who can give you
> whatever you like. If you want something you'll never see coming at you
> down the road, feel a little adventurous, and also want the assurance of
> knowing the builder has a great track record with womens' frames, you
> might consider Chas Roberts in the UK. Or, I'm sure you'll find an
> excellent builder fairly close to where you live.

Or, if you have an idea of a stock bike you like and a shop that
will fit you well, and just hate the color, buy the bike and get it
custom painted. Powdercoating is simple and probably not too
expensive.

Steve McDonald

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Apr 7, 2003, 5:18:02 AM4/7/03
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I have four bikes besides the recumbent tricycle I made myself and
I didn't even know what color they are, until I just went and looked.
Horrible colors, actually, but I never even noticed or cared before.
I'd say, just ride them and forget about the fashion statement. People
will be watching only you when you ride by and will never see the bike.
Or, you could always strip down a new bike to the frame and re-paint it
yourself in the most exquisite color you could find. It would be a good
exercise in getting to intimately know the parts of your steed.

Steve McDonald

Steve McDonald

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Apr 7, 2003, 5:29:38 AM4/7/03
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To add another thought, yellow bikes and cars are the most likely to
be stolen. But, they're the least likely to get in accidents because
someone else didn't see them.

I once drove a motor vehicle. It was inherited from a relative and
was grass-green.
It apparently was almost invisible to many other drivers against the
Oregon landscape and I had to constantly take evasive action to
survive.
This not only drove me to full-time bicycling, but prepared me for it.

Steve McDonald

D.Putnam

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Apr 7, 2003, 1:36:45 PM4/7/03
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Not to mention the embarrassment of showing up to a group ride and a woman
there has the same jersey on.


"Ryan Cousineau" <rcou...@sfu.ca> wrote in message
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Hunrobe

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Apr 7, 2003, 6:51:23 PM4/7/03
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>"D.Putnam" ren...@comcast.net

wrote:

>Not to mention the embarrassment of showing up to a group ride and a woman
>there has the same jersey on.

Embarrassment is eliminated by saying in a loud voice,
"Hey, cool! When did they come out with a matching woman's jersey? I should buy
one for my wife (and/or girlfriend)."

Note- This will not work if it's a "Shebeest" or "Team Estrogen" jersey.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

M Gagnon

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Apr 7, 2003, 11:14:48 AM4/7/03
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"Sascha" <pixe...@mn.rr.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> Ok, so I exaggerated a little on the pink thing. It was a symbolic color
> for all of the powder blues, etc I'm running into. For instance, Terry's
> road bikes this year are french blue, pearl white, blue lagoon, etc...
Trek
> bikes are cumulus blue (read sky blue), pearl white (with some red trim,
> it's true), and coastal blue. There's not a primary color among them.
,,,,


I'm a male and at the other end of the spectrum: with my long legs, I ride a
63-cm frame and wish it were a 66-cm one. Still, even though I like very
much my newer Trek 520 (year 2000, deep blue), I prefer the colour of my old
tourer now commuter, a 1980 Vélo Sport Alpin, which is beige, almost like
varnished pine. You just have to ride once in the rain to see the advantage
of beige or a similar neutral colour.


P.S. Maybe someone has done a study on theft and colour. Would a pink bike
offer less theft appeal?

Regards,

Michel

B. Sanders

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Apr 8, 2003, 1:29:35 PM4/8/03
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"Benjamin Weiner" <b...@isis.ucolick.org> wrote in message
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> Steve Palincsar <pali...@his.com> wrote:
>
> > Go for a custom, and get a perfect fit, your choice in components, and
the
> > color you love. There are many fine custom builders who can give you
> > whatever you like.

My custom built Soulcraft Royale road frame in Spring Yellow is on its way
as I write this. It's not a "me too" clunky looking aluminum bike with
decals and stripes every which way. It's understated and classic.

There's a Royale in yellow on the Soulcraft website:

http://www.soulcraftbikes.com/id25.htm

Mine will look almost exactly like this one.

-Barry


Dave H

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Apr 10, 2003, 1:44:11 PM4/10/03
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"Sascha Bates" <nospamsa...@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I've been thinking about a new road bike. I've had my REI Novara Carema
for
> three years and am ready to upgrade to something a little spiffier. So,
> I've been shopping and looking for something nifty and attractive out
there.
> I'm petite at 5'1" and have a pretty short torso besides. I'm currently
> riding a 43cm bike and I like the WSD design.
>
> So I looked at Terry bikes, I looked at Trek bikes and I kept on looking.
> Can someone PLEASE tell me why all WSD bikes come in pastel only? Who
says
> that because I'm a chick, I have to have a pink bike for crying out loud!
> If I have to look at one more powder blue or lavender bike, I will vomit.
I
> can't say I'm terribly attracted to white either. White bikes are like
> white cars--they never look clean.
>
> So, the flip side of this is, why do guys get all the cool colors? I
can't
> even think about one of their bikes since they seem to start in the 50cm
> range. Yuck. I hope someone from the cycling companies takes a look at
> these news groups once in a while. I'd like them to understand that just

> because I'm a woman, I don't want a pastel bike. I want orange or yellow,
> or that really nifty maroon that the men's Allez was a few years ago. I'd
> even settle for that Trek grey, red and black.
>
> Ok. I feel better...needed to rant. But I'm still not thinking I want to
> buy a bike as long as pastel is my only choice. It may be shallow, but
I'm
> the one who'll have to look at it for the next 10 years!
>
> Sascha
> (cranky cyclist)
>

A male I know bought a Torpado bicycle locally. He chose the pink color.
So now he has a Pink Tordapo => Pink Torpedo => Phallic symbol. He thought
the idea was hysterical.

Now that I think about it another male friend bought a Pink Pfister bike
from the same shop. Man, I need to find some new friends and find a new
bike shop.

dave


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Luigi de Guzman

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"Dave H" <davewhF*INGSP...@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3e95ad6f$1...@127.0.0.1>...

>
> A male I know bought a Torpado bicycle locally. He chose the pink color.
> So now he has a Pink Tordapo => Pink Torpedo => Phallic symbol. He thought
> the idea was hysterical.
>
> Now that I think about it another male friend bought a Pink Pfister bike
> from the same shop. Man, I need to find some new friends and find a new
> bike shop.

Hey...I have a pink bike!

Pink and black, to be precise, an MBK mixte frame d'une certain age,
let's say, who I've taken to calling "bekah." She's alright, her hub
gears are reliable and enjoyable for a quick ride to and from school.
It's strictly a short-term thing, though; I'll be gone at the end of
the year.

Other cities, other maidens.

-Luigi

Bernie

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Apr 11, 2003, 12:01:15 AM4/11/03
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Luigi de Guzman wrote:

Luigi, you've too much class to treat your current wheel so callously. Makes you sound
like a mere "college boy" ;-)
I recently had a hot pink 15 y/o mountin bike. Was too wrapped up in it to let it go. It
had rode me back to health more than once. Tis reincarnated in bright banana rust paint,
running like new. Has more new parts than is reasonable. I expect it will last longer
than I will though. I don't begrudge fixing it 'cause it is an old friend.
I wish you good things!
Best regards, Bernie


Luigi de Guzman

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Apr 11, 2003, 11:16:12 AM4/11/03
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Bernie <bmci...@direct.ca> wrote in message news:<3E963E0B...@direct.ca>...

> Luigi, you've too much class to treat your current wheel so callously. Makes you sound
> like a mere "college boy" ;-)

I left a nice one waiting for me back at home, and she'll want me back...

BTW, didn't Telekom ride pink for a while?

-Luigi
"I'm the wanderer...yeah, the wanderer..
I wander 'round nd 'round and 'round and 'round and 'round..."
-Deion

kh6...@pe.net

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Apr 11, 2003, 2:30:18 PM4/11/03
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Luigi de Guzman <luigi...@cox.net> wrote:
: "Dave H" <davewhF*INGSP...@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3e95ad6f$1...@127.0.0.1>...

: Other cities, other maidens.

: -Luigi

My bike is terribly pink..

http://www.pe.net/~kh6zv9/pinky/pinky1.jpg

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Bob Masse' kh6...@PE.NET
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Tanya Quinn

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Apr 11, 2003, 5:27:43 PM4/11/03
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"Sascha Bates" <nospamsa...@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<UGKja.23273$5j.3...@twister.kc.rr.com>...
> I've been thinking about a new road bike. I've had my REI Novara Carema for
> three years and am ready to upgrade to something a little spiffier. So,
> I've been shopping and looking for something nifty and attractive out there.
> I'm petite at 5'1" and have a pretty short torso besides. I'm currently
> riding a 43cm bike and I like the WSD design.
>
> So I looked at Terry bikes, I looked at Trek bikes and I kept on looking.
> Can someone PLEASE tell me why all WSD bikes come in pastel only? Who says
> that because I'm a chick, I have to have a pink bike for crying out loud!
> If I have to look at one more powder blue or lavender bike, I will vomit. I
> can't say I'm terribly attracted to white either. White bikes are like
> white cars--they never look clean.
>
> So, the flip side of this is, why do guys get all the cool colors? I can't
> even think about one of their bikes since they seem to start in the 50cm
> range. Yuck. I hope someone from the cycling companies takes a look at
> these news groups once in a while. I'd like them to understand that just
> because I'm a woman, I don't want a pastel bike. I want orange or yellow,
> or that really nifty maroon that the men's Allez was a few years ago. I'd
> even settle for that Trek grey, red and black.
>
> Ok. I feel better...needed to rant. But I'm still not thinking I want to
> buy a bike as long as pastel is my only choice. It may be shallow, but I'm
> the one who'll have to look at it for the next 10 years!
>
> Sascha
> (cranky cyclist)


Hi Sascha,
This girl bike looks pretty cool
http://www.airborne.net/eready/janette/store/wabike2.asp

Although the frame starts at 45 cm, but you can order it custom.

Tanya

Bernie

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Apr 11, 2003, 9:10:30 PM4/11/03
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Luigi de Guzman wrote:

Dunno about Telekom, you'll have to ask a sharp looking Euro Pro like.... oh, I dunno...
FABRIZIO?

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