Honk if you are for the Revolution!
His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
You know, one of those days that you have to live, even if you die
because of it... We went out through the back streets, but later we
had no choice but to ride the main street for a few blocks in order to
make a quick left. I decided to ride like a car TAKING THE LEFT LANE,
and soon enough there were the predators behind us blasting the horn,
while I waved them to pass on the right. Hey, the road had 3 lanes, so
I don't see the reason for all that noise and intimidation. I do not
recommend though doing this without some plug-style headphones playing
loud music. You pretend to ignore them...
But I thought of a way to put all that NOISE AND AGGRESSION to work
for a good cause. It's good they know you are not alone, so they think
twice before actually acting on their animal instincts...
http://www.zazzle.com/i_like_banana_revolution_tshirt-235884093374828058
If you are banana shy, I can work around the word. But hey, let's be
real, if they are hungry, don't they deserve a banana?
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more serious t-shirt here (and no commission)
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> >> But I believe that nations are forced into civilization, as it is the
> >> case of Germany in the last decades.
> > Ah... So germany wasn't civilized prior to what? 1989? 1953? 1945?
>
> they don't play cricket, and so are still uncivilized.
One effective way to see if a nation is civilized is to look at its
roads.
Then you realize that America is not that far ahead of Congo.
Can a nation that plays American football be civilized? ;)
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
these funny answers...
On Nov 29, 3:14 am, liveD doG <pointst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there !
> When you were in the left lane ,
> were you conforming to the speed convention ?
> ie :- was your vehicle moving slower or faster than the legal speed
> for that lane ?
> And if slower or faster than the legal speed , how much slower or
> faster than the legal speed ?
At was going at FAR below the average speed...
What's your point, that I should ride on the sidewalk? Do you realize
that there's no BIKE LANES whatsover while they have 3?
His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> > Not for lack of trying. See further 'South West Africa', as noted above...
>
> First off, Germany did not exist in the heyday of colonialism,
> secondly the point being argued was that the title of "the most
> predatory nation on Earth" has far too many contenders. The British
> Empire being (by far) the best candidate.
>
> Eventhough they _do_ play cricket for some reason.
>
To look civilized?
Whatever the reasons they play cricket, they are not a strong
candidate nowadays for the title of MOST PREDATORY. They have become a
SECOND CLASS LION, and the tittle goes to the NATION THAT CONSUMES 25%
OF THE EARTH RESOURCES, and still haven't learned proper manners on
its roads.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
On Nov 29, 5:13 pm, "Timothy 1:4a" <canfanor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I approve the sentiment, though it's not a good biking day here in
> Toronto.
Dangerous roads but beautiful weather here in Miami.
But don't worry, times will change and it will be summer again. ;)
z
Did you do the CM ride for Rodolfo Rojo Friday or the Country Walk
mayhem on Thursday?
His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
I don't know what you talking about but here's my view:
OK, I want something like CM but organized. No wild monkeys, just good
PR to show the world we are civilized.
The beasts are loose behind the wheel.
z
His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
>
>
>
>
>
> Enterprises wrote:
> > On Nov 29, 6:05 pm, z <N...@not.ca> wrote:
> >> His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
>
> >> Enterprises wrote:
>
> >>> On Nov 29, 5:13 pm, "Timothy 1:4a" <canfanor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> I approve the sentiment, though it's not a good biking day here in
> >>>> Toronto.
> >>> Dangerous roads but beautiful weather here in Miami.
> >>> But don't worry, times will change and it will be summer again. ;)
> >> Did you do the CM ride for Rodolfo Rojo Friday or the Country Walk
> >> mayhem on Thursday?
>
> > I don't know what you talking about but here's my view:
>
> > OK, I want something like CM but organized. No wild monkeys, just good
> > PR to show the world we are civilized.
>
> > The beasts are loose behind the wheel.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I guess I was missing something so important. Thanks for the tip!
I rode that very road on a bicycle that late, and it's scariest thing
in the world. Also I was nearly ambushed while riding a motorcycle --I
rode it every night there-- when a car cut me off and I dared to look
at him and he stopped looking for trouble. A single bad look can get
you in trouble here. A finger to someone blasting the horn almost got
me killed on a road going to Biscayne Blvd. No more riding a bicycle
there.
But CM is almost automatically bad PR. We have to be smarter and
better organized. Tell the people everything is connected in the
jungle, and give them some fliers --tested thousands of times-- that
have the stories of the hungry lion. I guess everybody wants to stop
that lion. ;)
His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
to do with religion and power politics... Thus I've decided to change
the religion of the Empire and introduce mild practices that take us
out of the churches and homes and out to the sun and the moon... You
may call it paganism if you will, but that's what need. Hey Opus, this
one's for you...
On Nov 30, 1:15 pm, "Rats-dog *" <bsiriu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What part of hell do you live in genius?
> I'm in Indiana...I would bet that your here
> do to your unbelief, me I'm in for being
> Gay....seems I put the moves on the sun
> of DAWG, and I got sent here to live with
> all you geniuses....
> Ha Ha
> Boomer-
OK, I officially declare the religion of the revolution to be... the
sun and the moon. Everybody's welcome because they shine for all.
Worshipping? Go out and lay in the sun, or go out with a drum on full
moon.
Here in Miami they have full moon parties at the beach. Of course,
you
don't have to believe in Jesus, live in hypocrisy or go to church.
And
you can smoke weed, OK?
datakoll
Ron Wallenfang
I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Don't be in a hurry to generalize from your experience of bicycle
safety in Miami. On my 16 long trips, covering 45 states, the 10
provinces of Canada and 8 countries in Europe, the most dangerous
single stretch I've encountered was US 1 coming into Miami from the
south. See my report at http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/4571, day
2. I was pretty much forced ont the sidewalk, which I usually avoid
as completely as possible. All 16 of my trip reports are on thet
crazyguy site noted - just delete "doc/4571", and when you get the
home page, type in "roboron" in the search box and you' get links to
all of them.
z
Anyone that rides on Biscayne Boulevard/Federal Highway and isn't
extremely comfortable in heavy traffic should select an alternate route.
Yes, I was once hit by a car on US 1 around Suniland, but I was also
taped by WPLG doing high intensity intervals on US 1 during rush hour
years ago (the latter several years after the former).
Regardless, I would avoid it if possible during dark hours.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> PASS THE IMMODIUM
Never been moonstruck?
I went out and the moon had a halo around it.
Good omen for the revolution.
But I think it's not yet full moon because there was no party.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> On Nov 29, 4:35 pm, "His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes
> I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 29, 5:13 pm, "Timothy 1:4a" <canfanor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I approve the sentiment, though it's not a good biking day here in
> > > Toronto.
>
> > Dangerous roads but beautiful weather here in Miami.
>
> > But don't worry, times will change and it will be summer again. ;)
>
> Don't be in a hurry to generalize from your experience of bicycle
> safety in Miami. On my 16 long trips, covering 45 states, the 10
> provinces of Canada and 8 countries in Europe, the most dangerous
> single stretch I've encountered was US 1 coming into Miami from the
> 2. I was pretty much forced ont the sidewalk, which I usually avoid
> as completely as possible. All 16 of my trip reports are on thet
> crazyguy site noted - just delete "doc/4571", and when you get the
> home page, type in "roboron" in the search box and you' get links to
> all of them.
What can I tell you... You are lucky to be alive!
I think I once cheched your route through Krome Ave (rings a bell?)
and I find it totally incredible that you survived.
90% of the people here ride on the sidewalk because they forced you
out of the roads.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> Ron Wallenfang wrote:
> > On Nov 29, 4:35 pm, "His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes
> > I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On Nov 29, 5:13 pm, "Timothy 1:4a" <canfanor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I approve the sentiment, though it's not a good biking day here in
> >>> Toronto.
> >> Dangerous roads but beautiful weather here in Miami.
>
> >> But don't worry, times will change and it will be summer again. ;)
>
> > Don't be in a hurry to generalize from your experience of bicycle
> > safety in Miami. On my 16 long trips, covering 45 states, the 10
> > provinces of Canada and 8 countries in Europe, the most dangerous
> > single stretch I've encountered was US 1 coming into Miami from the
> > 2. I was pretty much forced ont the sidewalk, which I usually avoid
> > as completely as possible. All 16 of my trip reports are on thet
> > crazyguy site noted - just delete "doc/4571", and when you get the
> > home page, type in "roboron" in the search box and you' get links to
> > all of them.
>
> Anyone that rides on Biscayne Boulevard/Federal Highway and isn't
> extremely comfortable in heavy traffic should select an alternate route.
> Yes, I was once hit by a car on US 1 around Suniland, but I was also
> taped by WPLG doing high intensity intervals on US 1 during rush hour
> years ago (the latter several years after the former).
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I did recently Collins Ave north of 163st and it was totally crazy by
midnight.
One problem we often find here is cars racing anywhere: I've seen cars
do 100 miles on Biscayne Blvd.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> On Nov 30, 9:24 pm, "His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes
>
> > Good omen for the revolution.
>
> > But I think it's not yet full moon because there was no party.
>
I, King of the Apes, declare that it's time for Christianity to
disband.
No, I'm not moonstruck or something, just that I have the same legal
authority that Emperor Constantine had to declare Christianity the
official religion of the empire. And since we don't need empires
anymore nor religions that don't make any sense, it's time to send to
send everybody home, including the Pope.
I understand that there's some time needed for readjustment, but look
up to the sky for solutions... the SUN and the MOON. They are a little
Pagan, but also make sense for a free, healthy lifestyle, unlike the
Christians who are homebound, churchbound, mallbound, fat, lazy and
stupid.
Yes, all the hypocrisy and double life of the Christians is NOT
necessary anymore. You can be WHO you really are. You should be intead
interested in the affairs of the world, because nobody is coming to
save you. Father Sun and Mother Moon told me so.
Now get on a bike and go out to celebrate the sun and the moon. I'll
go out for a walk by the beach, which is the essence of the supreme
energy found in the Universe. Life's a beach, I say.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I want to meet the first ape that denies me. And they better use some
human language!"
Ron Wallenfang
Tell me, what's the moon's (mother of lunatics) teaching on "taking
the lane?" What first principles does the sun bring to bear on the
question of helmet use? If you find Christianity inferior, tell us
your faith, or absent that, your working assumptions. Darwinist?
Randian individualist? Fabian Socialist? Whatever? Then we can have
a real discussion.
Such timidity, adopting the sun and the moon. You might as well
worship a pair of shoes!!
Dan O
(Whatever.)
So yesterday I'm heading home from work, tooling down the sidewalk and
approaching a ramp to a marked crosswalk where cross traffic has a
"Yield" sign. I look up the road to see if anybody's coming who looks
like they will just blow through the crosswalk anyway, and there is a
big car coming that gives that impression. So I slow down and check
him out as he cruies right *into* the crosswalk, *then* stops.
Meanwhile I've rolled around behind his car. As I'm coming around to
the driver's side, he rolls down the window, sticks his fat head out
with a cell phone hled up to one ear, and says to me, "You better
watch where you're going!" :-)
This morning, as I'm relating this story to one of my coworkers,
another coworker chimes in with, "He doesn't have to stop for you.
You're a vehicle. You shouldn't be on the sidewalk."
I tell her that she doesn't know the law then, but by now the
hostility is bubbling up all around me. Everybody starts venting all
their pet peeves. It gets loud really fast. One guy says if a
bicyclist is going the wrong way they're "fair game". I look him
right in the eye and his vehemence was scary.
This hostility was a little disturbing, but not so surprising. It is
manifest every day on the roads.
So anyway, I don't know if bananas are the answer, but they're an
excellent source of potassium.
Opus
> to do with religion and power politics... Thus I've decided to change
> the religion of the Empire and introduce mild practices that take us
> out of the churches and homes and out to the sun and the moon... You
> may call it paganism if you will, but that's what need. Hey Opus, this
> one's for you...
>
that tried to make my religion the state religion. The core tenet of
my brand of religion is that you must discover divinity personally,
which is antithetical to a State Religion that dictates what divinity
will be for you. And that is any State Religion... So, be Pagan, dance
at the moon either full or new, but my experience is not and cannot be
anything like your experience. I find divinity on the roads and
meditation with every turn of the pedals, but just because that's
where I found it doesn't make it right for everybody.
I ride my bike to ride my bike, and sometimes it takes me where I need
to go.
Edward Dolan
"Opus" <opust...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f23b318d-9dc1-418b...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> I find divinity on the roads and
> meditation with every turn of the pedals, but just because that's
> where I found it doesn't make it right for everybody.
I like to daydream while I ride my bike also.
> I ride my bike to ride my bike, and sometimes it takes me where I need
> to go.
Well, yes, doesn't everybody? You have just said it all. You are a
nitty-gritty philosopher at heart even if you don't know it!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
Edward Dolan
"Ron Wallenfang" <rwall...@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:231c3578-ff0b-4786...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> Tell me, what's the moon's (mother of lunatics) teaching on "taking
the lane?" What first principles does the sun bring to bear on the
question of helmet use? If you find Christianity inferior, tell us
your faith, or absent that, your working assumptions. Darwinist?
Randian individualist? Fabian Socialist? Whatever? Then we can have
a real discussion.
It all has to do with CB being a crank and a crazy. Can't you just picture
the poor slob, trying to fit into a world that passed him by a couple of
generations ago.
> Such timidity, adopting the sun and the moon. You might as well
worship a pair of shoes!!
It does make some sense to worship the sun actually.
From the Encyclopedia Britannica Online.
"Although sun worship has been used frequently as a term for "pagan"
religion, it is, in fact, relatively rare. Though almost every culture uses
solar motifs, only a relatively few cultures (Egyptian, Indo-European, and
Meso-American) developed solar religions. All of these groups had in common
a well-developed urban civilization with a strong ideology of sacred
kingship. In all of them the imagery of the sun as the ruler of both the
upper and the lower worlds that he majestically visits on his daily round is
prominent.
The sun is the bestower of light and life to the totality of the cosmos;
with his unblinking, all-seeing eye, he is the stern guarantor of justice;
with the almost universal connection of light with enlightenment or
illumination, the sun is the source of wisdom.
These qualities-sovereignty, power of beneficence, justice, and wisdom-are
central to any elite religious group, and it is within these contexts that a
highly developed solar ideology is found. Kings ruled by the power of the
sun and claimed descent from the sun. Solar deities, gods personifying the
sun, are sovereign and all-seeing. The sun is often a prime attribute of or
is identified with the Supreme Deity."
Ron Wallenfang
What I get out of this is that the sun was used as a stage prop to
support emperor-worship. That at least is a real standard whose
merits can be argued vis-a-vis Christianity. And in fact emperor-
worship (divus caesar) was an early rival of the primitive church.
But that doesn't work in today's context. An appeal to the sun-god is
an empty gesture. It's just a big hot ball, with no more
philosophical content than a little cold ping-pong ball.
Michael Press
<d55abfc6-e6f9-428a...@b36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Dan O <danov...@gmail.com> wrote:
You should not be on the sidewalk unless you are traveling
at a walking pace. Riding a bicycle along a sidewalk at
typical bicycle speeds puts an unfair burden on road users.
As a bicyclist I have had to dodge bicyclists who blast
into an intersection from a sidewalk.
So, when you ride the sidewalk ride slowly and stop at the
curb, and look all ways, just as if you are a pedestrian.
--
Michael Press
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
Anything but a dying man! The Sun and the Moon don't require churches,
but rather good shoes or bikes to go out and enjoy. I think I'm going
my own way here since it's a natural consequence of my worshipping for
nature...
I love the jungle, but not the predators. ;)
And you'd surprised how many Christians are in the predation game.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
This is not Christian hypocrisy of turning the other cheek (sure,
huh?), but Law of the Jungle or an Eye for an Eye, and whenever one of
your Christians (or Atheists) tries some predation on me with their
SUVs, I will shout loud and clear: THIS A JUNGLE WHERE CYCLISTS AND
PEDESTRIANS DON'T COUNT. Last night, yet another time, an SUV wanted
to run us at the light for no good reason, and started shouting
insults at us! WALKING, third similar incident in the last month, and
my bicycles rarely see the light... yet!
I've been hunting for the snake in the jungle, but now that I've found
the HEAD, I won't let go...
DOES MY WORSHIPPING OF NATURE PUT ME AT THE SAME LEVEL OF IDIOCIES
SUCH AS CHRISTIANITY?
I must confess to feeling good from getting "the energy," something
that comes from the Sun, the Moon, the Wind, the Animals, EVERYTHING!
Perhaps I'm an Indian at heart. Spirituality, yes; materialism, no
way.
I don't know if that makes me a tree hugger, but I definetely, I hope,
don't want be like a materialistic Christian worshipping a dying man
in rags that will never come back, while happily polluting the earth.
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"The command to 'prosper and multiply' should have been followed by
'respecting nature and natural lifestyles."
zxcvbob
Lone Gunman episode "Planet of the Frohikes" would you?
(that should be an obscure enough reference to leave folks scratching
their heads) ;-)
Bob
Dan O
> In article
> <d55abfc6-e6f9-428a-ba3f-197348d5b...@b36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Did you read what I said?
> > ... big car coming that gives that impression. So I slow down and check
> > him out...
I know the law pertaining to bicyclists on the sidewalk here:
/****************************/
814.410 Unsafe operation of bicycle on sidewalk; penalty. (1) A
person commits the offense of unsafe operation of a bicycle on a
sidewalk if the person does any of the following:
(a) Operates the bicycle so as to suddenly leave a curb or other
place of safety and move into the path of a vehicle that is so close
as to constitute an immediate hazard.
(b) Operates a bicycle upon a sidewalk and does not give an
audible warning before overtaking and passing a pedestrian and does
not yield the right of way to all pedestrians on the sidewalk.
(c) Operates a bicycle on a sidewalk in a careless manner that
endangers or would be likely to endanger any person or property.
(d) Operates the bicycle at a speed greater than an ordinary
walk when approaching or entering a crosswalk, approaching or crossing
a driveway or crossing a curb cut or pedestrian ramp and a motor
vehicle is approaching the crosswalk, driveway, curb cut or pedestrian
ramp. This paragraph does not require reduced speeds for bicycles at
places on sidewalks or other pedestrian ways other than places where
the path for pedestrians or bicycle traffic approaches or crosses that
for motor vehicle traffic.
(e) Operates an electric assisted bicycle on a sidewalk.
(2) Except as otherwise specifically provided by law, a
bicyclist on a sidewalk or in a crosswalk has the same rights and
duties as a pedestrian on a sidewalk or in a crosswalk.
(3) The offense described in this section, unsafe operation of a
bicycle on a sidewalk, is a Class D traffic violation. [1983 c.338
§699; 1985 c.16 §337; 1997 c.400 §7; 2005 c.316 §2]
/**************************/
... I also have some common sense and some understanding of the laws
of physics, human cognition, attitudes and behavior, and practical
safety in bicycling.
I am not the bicyclist who blasted into the intersection and you had
to dodge, but thanks for your critique, anyway.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> On Dec 4, 8:19 am, "His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I
> & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I must confess to feeling good from getting "the energy," something
> > that comes from the Sun, the Moon, the Wind, the Animals, EVERYTHING!
> > Perhaps I'm an Indian at heart. Spirituality, yes; materialism, no
> > way.
>
> > I don't know if that makes me a tree hugger, but I definetely, I hope,
> > don't want be like a materialistic Christian worshipping a dying man
> > in rags that will never come back, while happily polluting the earth.
>
>
> > "The command to 'prosper and multiply' should have been followed by
> > 'respectingnatureand natural lifestyles."
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote
>
> reaction to the Age of Enlightenment. Whereas the Enlightenment
> favored reason, science, technology and material abundance, Rousseau
> held that science was bad, that technology was bad, that innocence was
> to be found in primitive existence. Such is the inspiration behind
> environmentalists whose agenda involves deindustrialization.
I really think we should strike a balance between blind faith in Jesus
and Globalization and complete deindustrialization a la Omish. ;)
I'm all for HI TECH, but I'm also for junking the SUVs asap.
Certainly it's completely stupid, blind and criminal to deny people
the right to ride a bike. Wake up, Christian world, to the realities
of the jungle. And you are the predator more often than not, Mr.
Christian.
Edward Dolan
>> What I get out of this is that the sun was used as a stage prop to
support emperor-worship. That at least is a real standard whose
merits can be argued vis-a-vis Christianity. And in fact emperor-
worship (divus caesar) was an early rival of the primitive church.
But that doesn't work in today's context. An appeal to the sun-god is
an empty gesture. It's just a big hot ball, with no more
philosophical content than a little cold ping-pong ball.
There is something to be said for the sun as the origin of all life,
provided you have a suitable planet just the right distance from the sun. I
think the sun is more than a suitable object of worship No sun, no life!
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> "Ron Wallenfang" <rwallenf...@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Going back to Egyptians is not only impractical, but their society
also represents the worship of the pharaohs, and their excesses.
I think we can use a bit of imagination and borrow a bit from the
American Indians, New Age and Tantra...
I say the first two are highly spiritual, while the latter is
spiritual at love making, civilized behavior without howling like a
monkey. ;)
Michael Press
<1b53733a-2e3b-4b3c...@z10g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
Dan O <danov...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes. You said you slowed down, and only when you saw
a car approaching the intersection. I propose that
when on a sidewalk you stop at an intersection, look
every way, then start up and proceed only when the
your way is clear.
--
Michael Press
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> > Hey, if you ever want to visit the jungle (Miami) here we have all the
> > toys for monkeys: bikes, canoes... Seriously, SOLIDARITY IS THE NEW
> > LAW OF THE JUNGLE.
>
> I would love to sometime :-)
You know, Hollywood Beach is an absolute paradise filled with
migrating birds from the North (Canadians) and there's some nice place
to ride bike (called the broadwalk) without exposing yourself to the
jungle. The problem is from here to there you must be tough to ride a
bike.
In this idiotic Christian world they FORCE you to drive everywhere.
>
>
>
> > You live in Canada, right? I'm sure the Polar Bears will be in the
> > revolution because they are being threatened by the Christians in SUVs.
>
> Definitely. However, it's a little more work for Polar Bears to get on bikes
> (for obvious reasons. lol)
>
> We compromise with compact hybrids.
>
> Summertime is good for bikes though :-)
It's easier for Christians to get on a bike, but they must show to be
smarter than the bears. Christians hybernate year round. ;)
Try to see this cartoon: "Wall-e," in a distant future where the
people is so fat and stupid they are unable to walk, and are happy
consumers... While the Earth is overflowing with trash, they travel in
space with all the comfort, but longing to come back. There's
revolution in the end. ;)
Dan O
Thanks, but I'm afraid your procedure would be much too Fredly for
me. (Really just the rote stopping part - I already do look every way
and proceed only when my way is clear. Duh.)
When riding anywhere, I control my speed as necessary for practical
safety - e.g. to satisfactorily assess relevant circumstances that may
exist or develop - and try to operate in accord with traffic laws.
I don't ride on sidewalks much, but when I do I generally ride pretty
slowly anyway. Even when I have the legal right-of way (as in the
example above), I still assess the circumstances and proceed with due
care. (Duh). I ride very slowly and carefully around any pedestrians
and always yield them the right-of-way.
BTW, the lady who says, "You shouldn't be on the sidewalk" in the
story above, is the same one who says, "I should have just hit
him" (apparently sharing the "fair game" sentiment of that other guy)
when relating her own sidewalk bicyclist story; wherein the guy was
going *too* slowly and the "wrong" way across the driveway that she
was just itchin' to pull her Suburban into as she yelled out the
window at him to "get off the sidewalk".
Dan O
& Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
>
> Try to see this cartoon: "Wall-e," in a distant future where the
> people is so fat and stupid they are unable to walk, and are happy
> consumers... While the Earth is overflowing with trash, they travel in
> space with all the comfort, but longing to come back. There's
> revolution in the end. ;)
"Wall-e" is great! (Not perfect, but brilliant.)
Michael Press
<7f860489-b0f4-45e1...@a10g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Dan O <danov...@gmail.com> wrote:
So that other road users are not surprised when a bicycle pops up
in the roadway. Bicycles move faster than pedestrians. Proceeding
in the right traffic lane, a rider/driver making a legal right turn
has a reasonable expectation that a bicycle is not going to suddenly
appear in the cross walk.
[...]
--
Michael Press
Edward Dolan
"His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
news:143e6f70-18d5-4f31...@n31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com...[...]
> There is something to be said for the sun as the origin of all life,
> provided you have a suitable planet just the right distance from the sun.
> I
> think the sun is more than a suitable object of worship No sun, no life!
>> Going back to Egyptians is not only impractical, but their society
also represents the worship of the pharaohs, and their excesses.
>> I think we can use a bit of imagination and borrow a bit from the
American Indians, New Age and Tantra...
>> I say the first two are highly spiritual, while the latter is
spiritual at love making, civilized behavior without howling like a
monkey. ;)
There was nothing any more spiritual about the American Indian than there is
about any other primitive, savage people who basically live in the Stone
Age. The drunkenness and wreckage that you see on all Indian Reservations
speaks volumes for their so-called spirituality, or rather their complete
lack of it.
Love making has to do with creating babies and nothing else. What is
spiritual about that? My cats are terrific at making kittens and they do not
seem to have any spirituality at all in so far as I can detect.
Dan O
> Dan O <danover...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 5, 1:51 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <1b53733a-2e3b-4b3c-b320-42440911b...@z10g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> > > Dan O <danover...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 3, 11:46 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > > > > In article
> > > > > <d55abfc6-e6f9-428a-ba3f-197348d5b...@b36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > Dan O <danover...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
<snip>
> > > > > > So yesterday I'm heading home from work, tooling down the sidewalk and
> > > > > > approaching a ramp to a marked crosswalk where cross traffic has a
> > > > > > "Yield" sign. I look up the road to see if anybody's coming who looks
> > > > > > like they will just blow through the crosswalk anyway, and there is a
> > > > > > big car coming that gives that impression. So I slow down and check
> > > > > > him out as he cruies right *into* the crosswalk, *then* stops.
> > > > > > Meanwhile I've rolled around behind his car. As I'm coming around to
> > > > > > the driver's side, he rolls down the window, sticks his fat head out
> > > > > > with a cell phone hled up to one ear, and says to me, "You better
> > > > > > watch where you're going!" :-)
>
> > > > > > This morning, as I'm relating this story to one of my coworkers,
> > > > > > another coworker chimes in with, "He doesn't have to stop for you.
> > > > > > You're a vehicle. You shouldn't be on the sidewalk."
>
> > > > > You should not be on the sidewalk unless you are traveling
> > > > > at a walking pace. Riding a bicycle along a sidewalk at
> > > > > typical bicycle speeds puts an unfair burden on road users.
> > > > > As a bicyclist I have had to dodge bicyclists who blast
> > > > > into an intersection from a sidewalk.
>
> > > > > So, when you ride the sidewalk ride slowly and stop at the
> > > > > curb, and look all ways, just as if you are a pedestrian.
>
> > > > Did you read what I said?
>
> > > Yes. You said you slowed down, and only when you saw
> > > a car approaching the intersection.
If I only *say* that I slowed down when I saw the car, that does not
mean that I *only* slowed down when I saw the car.
> > > I propose that
> > > when on a sidewalk you stop at an intersection, look
> > > every way, then start up and proceed only when the
> > > your way is clear.
>
> > Thanks, but I'm afraid your procedure would be much too Fredly for
> > me. (Really just the rote stopping part - I already do look every way
> > and proceed only when my way is clear. Duh.)
>
It is usually altogether feasible to proceed safely (and legally)
without stopping, clears the path in less time, and eliminates
complicating distractions like entering the hazard zone unclipped from
the pedal(s).
> So that other road users are not surprised when a bicycle pops up
> in the roadway. Bicycles move faster than pedestrians. Proceeding
> in the right traffic lane, a rider/driver making a legal right turn
> has a reasonable expectation that a bicycle is not going to suddenly
> appear in the cross walk.
>
Obliviously blasting into the road is idiotic. Have I suggested
otherwise?
> [...]
>
Opus
> "His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of QuixoticEnterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
The people on the res are not the culture of the Native Americans any
more than monkeys in a zoo are representative of wild monkeys. What is
on the res is a people cut off from their lands and their culture,
with a degenerate slave religion forced onto them by their captors.
Love making is only incidentally related to Sex, or as you so quaintly
put it "making babies". It is integral to the human condition as
social beings, so much so that those who do not partake can be judged
as insane. Not necessarily, but it is a possible characteristic of the
insane. It is also part and parcel of some religions' spiritual
practices.
I find your pronouncements on subject with which you have little
personal experience annoying, much like the Religious Reich's
statements of who will go to Heaven...
Edward Dolan
>> There was nothing any more spiritual about the American Indian than there
>> is
>> about any other primitive, savage people who basically live in the Stone
>> Age. The drunkenness and wreckage that you see on all Indian Reservations
>> speaks volumes for their so-called spirituality, or rather their complete
>> lack of it.
>>
>> Love making has to do with creating babies and nothing else. What is
>> spiritual about that? My cats are terrific at making kittens and they do
>> not
>> seem to have any spirituality at all in so far as I can detect.
>
> more than monkeys in a zoo are representative of wild monkeys. What is
> on the res is a people cut off from their lands and their culture,
> with a degenerate slave religion forced onto them by their captors.
What you are describing is ancient history. The Indians have had plenty of
time and opportunity to recover from whatever insults they may imagine they
were subjected to in the past. But is it liberal slobs like you who make
excuses for them that perpetuates their wretchedness.
What the Indian mainly needs is a good swift kick in their dumb asses,
something that we Conservatives are more than willing to provide. Frankly, I
am for doing away with the reservations altogether. They can either become
Americans or get out of the country. Maybe Mexico would welcome them.
> Love making is only incidentally related to Sex, or as you so quaintly
> put it "making babies". It is integral to the human condition as
> social beings, so much so that those who do not partake can be judged
> as insane. Not necessarily, but it is a possible characteristic of the
> insane. It is also part and parcel of some religions' spiritual
> practices.
It is always amusing to see liberals justify their depravities by appealing
to some kind of junk social science. Sex is no more integral to the 'social'
human being than it is to my cats. It is what a creature does to insure the
survival of his species and is based 100% on hormones (chemistry).
Those religions (cults) who base their practices on sex do not last long.
They generally self-destruct, especially when they go for female priestesses
who invariably turn out to be nothing but temple prostitutes (whores). The
Roman Catholic Church has lasted as long as it has by excluding females from
the priesthood.
> I find your pronouncements on subject with which you have little
> personal experience annoying, much like the Religious Reich's
> statements of who will go to Heaven...
Your rampant and insane liberalism disqualifies you from ever having a
sensible opinion about anything. It is liberal slobs like you who are
leading the nation to perdition. America is soon going to be a second rate
country because of your type of person.
Poor CB is a crazy nut and cannot ever influence anyone. I wish I could say
the same about you, but you have the mass media on your side which makes you
somewhat dangerous. But you are not smart like Tom Sherman and so far less
dangerous than he is. I blame everything on the liberal mass media. Thank
God for Fox News!
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> "His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of QuixoticEnterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:143e6f70-18d5-4f31...@n31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 5, 6:10 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > There is something to be said for the sun as the origin of all life,
> > provided you have a suitable planet just the right distance from the sun.
> > I
> > think the sun is more than a suitable object of worship No sun, no life!
> >> Going back to Egyptians is not only impractical, but their society
>
> also represents the worship of the pharaohs, and their excesses.
>
> >> I think we can use a bit of imagination and borrow a bit from the
>
> American Indians, New Age and Tantra...
>
> >> I say the first two are highly spiritual, while the latter is
>
> spiritual at love making, civilized behavior without howling like a
> monkey. ;)
>
> There was nothing any more spiritual about the American Indian than there is
> about any other primitive, savage people who basically live in the Stone
> Age. The drunkenness and wreckage that you see on all Indian Reservations
> speaks volumes for their so-called spirituality, or rather their complete
> lack of it.
There was before their identity and culture were stolen by the
Europeans, and put them in confined quarters and Welfare. The same
thing happens to Puerto Rico. It's a wild jungle.
But the temptation is for all to stop resisting and turn inward into
drugs, drinking... so you forget how disgraced you are when you are
NOT free...
I feel in confined quarters too, at least unable to ride a bike to
most places. But I still got my Indian solution: CANOEING INTO SOME
WILD ISLAND.
Hopefully I won't see many cops telling me not to be at the beach
after 10pm or something.
Michael Press
<66a6950d-1586-457a...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,
You wrote
# I look up the road to see if anybody's coming who looks
# like they will just blow through the crosswalk anyway,
# and there is a big car coming that gives that
# impression. So I slow down and check him out as he
# cruies right *into* the crosswalk, *then* stops.
"So I slow down" means that you only slowed down
because of the conditions, not because you stop at
every curb, the way pedestrians should.
>>>> I propose that
>>>> when on a sidewalk you stop at an intersection, look
>>>> every way, then start up and proceed only when the
>>>> your way is clear.
>>
>>> Thanks, but I'm afraid your procedure would be much too Fredly for
>>> me. (Really just the rote stopping part - I already do look every way
>>> and proceed only when my way is clear. Duh.)
>>
>
> It is usually altogether feasible to proceed safely (and legally)
> without stopping, clears the path in less time, and eliminates
> complicating distractions like entering the hazard zone unclipped from
> the pedal(s).
So you say. When on the sidewalk I always stop at the
curb and look every direction, searching for a car or
bicycle approaching that might not see me. Not only for
my safety, but also to not give them any surprises.
>> So that other road users are not surprised when a bicycle pops up
>> in the roadway. Bicycles move faster than pedestrians. Proceeding
>> in the right traffic lane, a rider/driver making a legal right turn
>> has a reasonable expectation that a bicycle is not going to suddenly
>> appear in the cross walk.
>
> Obliviously blasting into the road is idiotic. Have I suggested
> otherwise?
Yes. The driver was surprised.
Not that he was not cutting corners.
--
Michael Press
Dan O
No. "So I slow down" means that I slowed down consequent to those
(specified) conditions, not that I *only* slowed down because of those
conditions.
I already said that I ride pretty slowly on the sidewalk anyway -
probably less than 10 mph - maybe a lot less. As I approach the
intersection / curb cut / crosswalk, I go even slower to assess the
circumstances, which probably brings me down around the neighborhood
of walking speed already. When I saw this car and he wasn't giving
any indication that he saw me or cared if he did or intended to yield
my right-of-way, I slow down still more - prepared to stop if
necessary. Heck, I may have been almost trackstanding at that point.
I go through this particular intersection frequently - on bike and on
foot. Most drivers make very clear their intention and yield the
right-of-way at the crosswalk, but some don't. (Never saw one stick
their head out and yell at me as they simultaneously talked on the
phone and barged into the crosswalk before, though :-) If I have to
stop to be safe, I do. Usually, though, I don't have to.
>..., not because you stop at
> every curb, the way pedestrians should.
So you say.
>
> >>>> I propose that
> >>>> when on a sidewalk you stop at an intersection, look
> >>>> every way, then start up and proceed only when the
> >>>> your way is clear.
>
> >>> Thanks, but I'm afraid your procedure would be much too Fredly for
> >>> me. (Really just the rote stopping part - I already do look every way
> >>> and proceed only when my way is clear. Duh.)
>
> > It is usually altogether feasible to proceed safely (and legally)
> > without stopping, clears the path in less time, and eliminates
> > complicating distractions like entering the hazard zone unclipped from
> > the pedal(s).
>
> So you say. When on the sidewalk I always stop at the
> curb and look every direction, searching for a car or
> bicycle approaching that might not see me. Not only for
> my safety, but also to not give them any surprises.
Good for you. Seriously! It's not my style, but I'll keep it under
consideration.
>
> >> So that other road users are not surprised when a bicycle pops up
> >> in the roadway. Bicycles move faster than pedestrians. Proceeding
> >> in the right traffic lane, a rider/driver making a legal right turn
> >> has a reasonable expectation that a bicycle is not going to suddenly
> >> appear in the cross walk.
>
> > Obliviously blasting into the road is idiotic. Have I suggested
> > otherwise?
>
> Yes. The driver was surprised.
> Not that he was not cutting corners.
>
I was not oblivious, nor did I blast.
A lot of drivers have a lot of inherent animosity toward bicyclists,
and will, for example, go out of their way to force a stop. I don't
know if this driver was surprised when I safely rode around *behind*
his car that was illegally blocking my right-of-way, but I do believe
he was miffed.
Frank Krygowski
> On Dec 5, 1:51 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Did you read what I said?
>
> > Yes. You said you slowed down, and only when you saw
> > a car approaching the intersection. I propose that
> > when on a sidewalk you stop at an intersection, look
> > every way, then start up and proceed only when the
> > your way is clear.
>
> Thanks, but I'm afraid your procedure would be much too Fredly for
> me.
:-) It's pretty amazing when a sidewalk rider says _anything_ would
be too Fredly for him. There's not much that's Fredlier than being a
sidewalk rider!
- Frank Krygowski
Dan O
(Just think of it as "skulking" if that makes it seem more edgy for
you.)
(If only I could be as cool as Frank... ;-)
This guy thinks sidewalk riders are "Ninja warriors":
http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KerryFehr/26391
Here's a bunch of people who recognize the value of the sidewalk as an
option:
http://letsgorideabike.wordpress.com/2009/08/29/sometimes-i-take-the-sidewalk/
Frank Krygowski
You can always find people who think it's just fine to ride on a
sidewalk. A visit to our local homeless shelter will turn up
several.
I won't say nobody should ever, ever ride on a sidewalk. But I think
if a person does it for more than a few feet per day, their knowledge
and judgement are pretty questionable.
- Frank Krygowski
Dan O
I ride past a homeless shelter nearly every day. It has the fullest
bike rack in town.
>
> I won't say nobody should ever, ever ride on a sidewalk. But I think
> if a person does it for more than a few feet per day, their knowledge
> and judgement are pretty questionable.
>
I commute around 30 miles - through two counties and something like
four or five cities - each way. Sometimes, I make it all the way
door-to-door without ever unclipping. There could be days when I
never ride on the sidewalk, but there are a few places that I almost
always go there for short stretches, and I consider all my options as
circumstances develop. On a 30 mile trip, probably 29 and 9/10 miles
would be on the road. Of course I could just stay on the road all the
way, but then I'd spend an inordinate amount of time unclipped with my
bootie in the muck sitting in traffic or trying to negotiate my way
across a bunch of busy lanes and so forth for a very few short little
sections of extremely unfavorable traffic logistics, where I could
just bop up onto the sidewalk and ride on. Of course I can't know
what applicable knowledge I don't have, and you can question my
judgement if you like, but make no mistake I'll be well out of town
while you're still back there playing vehicular cyclist.
Frank Krygowski
>
>
> I commute around 30 miles - through two counties and something like
> four or five cities - each way. Sometimes, I make it all the way
> door-to-door without ever unclipping. There could be days when I
> never ride on the sidewalk, but there are a few places that I almost
> always go there for short stretches, and I consider all my options as
> circumstances develop. On a 30 mile trip, probably 29 and 9/10 miles
> would be on the road. Of course I could just stay on the road all the
> way, but then I'd spend an inordinate amount of time unclipped with my
> bootie in the muck sitting in traffic or trying to negotiate my way
> across a bunch of busy lanes and so forth for a very few short little
> sections of extremely unfavorable traffic logistics, where I could
> just bop up onto the sidewalk and ride on. Of course I can't know
> what applicable knowledge I don't have, and you can question my
> judgement if you like, but make no mistake I'll be well out of town
> while you're still back there playing vehicular cyclist.
Your numbers don't jibe. If you're sneaking along the sidewalk for
only 1/10 of a mile on a 30 mile trip, there's no way you're saving
"an inordinate amount of time" by doing so. Sneaking around four
traffic lights would eat up that 1/10 mile.
Four traffic lights is typically 2 minutes of waiting. Two minutes
won't get you very far out of town.
- Frank Krygowski
Dan O
Okay, I give. Clearly I'm a sneaky, skulking no account - of
questionable knowledge and judgement ;-)
Regards,
Dan
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> On Dec 5, 7:07 pm, Dan O <danover...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 5, 1:51 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > > Dan O <danover...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Did you read what I said?
>
> > > Yes. You said you slowed down, and only when you saw
> > > a car approaching the intersection. I propose that
> > > when on a sidewalk you stop at an intersection, look
> > > every way, then start up and proceed only when the
> > > your way is clear.
>
> > Thanks, but I'm afraid your procedure would be much too Fredly for
> > me.
>
> :-) It's pretty amazing when a sidewalk rider says _anything_ would
> be too Fredly for him. There's not much that's Fredlier than being a
> sidewalk rider!
>
Sidewalk riding is REALITY IN AMERICA. Most people where I live (a
solid 95%) ride crappy bikes on sidewalks. Of course, fancy bikes are
still ridden on the road on weekends. Why is that the case? Because
people are SURVIVORS and are afraid of the PREDATOR. But there's a new
trend, at least locally.
Drivers harass you even when walking! Just last night another
incident... Crossing street with light, truck is wating impatiently,
and I rush my pace. Then just as I get out of his way, he goes and
BLAST THE HORN TO INTIMIDATE ME!
I tell you what it is whether you are a cyclist or pedestrian: YOU ARE
WORTH NOTHING IN AMERICA, AND YOU ARE FAIR GAME.
Riding slowly on the sidewalk is an option for me to move around, but
if the pace is so slow, why not simply walk? I still ride to the
supermarket and back, 4 miles on back streets.It's not even my closest
market, but I just do it for the ride. But most of the best places for
me to ride to are off limits.
That's the reality of the jungle in America.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> "Opus" <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Some Indians are smarter than you and now own casinos and politics.
I'm sure you'd praise them. ;)
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> On Dec 9, 8:27 am, Frank Krygowski <frkry...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 5, 7:07 pm, Dan O <danover...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 5, 1:51 pm, Michael Press <rub...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Dan O <danover...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Did you read what I said?
>
> > > > Yes. You said you slowed down, and only when you saw
> > > > a car approaching the intersection. I propose that
> > > > when on a sidewalk you stop at an intersection, look
> > > > every way, then start up and proceed only when the
> > > > your way is clear.
>
> > > Thanks, but I'm afraid your procedure would be much too Fredly for
> > > me.
>
> > :-) It's pretty amazing when a sidewalk rider says _anything_ would
> > be too Fredly for him. There's not much that's Fredlier than being a
> > sidewalk rider!
>
> you.)
>
> (If only I could be as cool as Frank... ;-)
>
> This guy thinks sidewalk riders are "Ninja warriors":
>
> http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/KerryFehr/26391
>
> Here's a bunch of people who recognize the value of the sidewalk as an
> option:
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I quote form the link you provide...
Powerful Pete Says:
August 30, 2009 at 04:16 | Reply
Yes. While I agree that bikes belong on the road, I also agree it is
better to occasionally ride on the sidewalk and stay alive.
It is a long term policy of mine… ;-)
***
Yes, most people are SURVIVORS and do what they got to do to survive
no matter what the "pros" say. ;)
LionWhisperer
AREN'T THE CHRISTIANS SIMILAR TO THE TALIBAN?
Religion must be understood withing the culture context, so to say the
Talibans are the bad guys and the Christians the good, is a broad
generalization. Perhaps our Media exaggerates a little. Isn't it part
of the Sneaky Snake?
If the fundamentalist Christians had it their way, what kind of
"democracy" would we have? The Taliban's veil would swapped for a
"mask," ie. we would have to live in hypocrisy. Many already do, but
that's a strategy for survival in a society where not being Christian
amounts to evil...
And on social issues they always are high on repression and low on
compassion, kind of the reverse of what a civilized democracy is. Say
all the benefits and rights as well as some things we do not share but
are part of the LIVE AND LET LIVE philosophy normal in Holland:
UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE (the doctor even does house calls), EUTHANASIA,
MARIHUANA, PROSTITUTUTION, TRAFFIC REGULATIONS, where the pedestrians
and cyclists get respect.
I don't get RESPECT here. Everytime I go out riding a bike or even
walking I face this situation where the drivers ignore me, blast the
horn or try to run me over. Why? "Because they can!" That's the wise
answer a boat captain told me in Key West when I asked him why the Big
Fish eats the Little Fish. Who will stop them?
I guess that's the role of society and government: TO PUT THE PREDATOR
IN THE CAGE. In other words that we can use some NATION BUILDING HERE.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The Dog Whisperer is a wise man that can train humans and tame
dogs... so we too can apply his teachings"
LionWhisperer
Christians can do some reality check...
MOST DANGEROUS PLACES IN THE WORLD
http://comebackalive.com/site3.php?page_id=9&sub_section_id=USA
Ft. Lauderdale has the record for killed pedestrians. That's close to
home.
I've heard of scary stories of cruelty for an Afghan for owning a
Bible, but not for walking. But they do not own SUVs, so who knows if
they ever do... ;)
"Approximately 6,500 pedestrians and 900 bicyclists are killed each
year as a result of collisions with motor vehicles. As a group,
pedestrians and bicyclists comprise more than 14 percent of all
highway fatalities each year."
Edward Dolan
"LionWhisperer" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:05892e9a-b7be-4fe0...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> (aka Comandante Banana)
>
> AREN'T THE CHRISTIANS SIMILAR TO THE TALIBAN?
No!
LionWhisperer
> "LionWhisperer" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8fc373c2-2e95-45c7...@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Do I need to tell you that America is a dangerous place? Maybe the
> > Christians can do some reality check...
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnfT8_gPSJY&feature=related>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7b-Yk9IAN4
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q0zbYNYseM
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMAJf-hf1Zk
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqTPe-oX-eQ
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPh3zJ6lmn8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJXU7EVXs2A
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkfgTPl-dHs
Thanks! Regarding the last one... YES, biking can be sexy! Which is
why the Christians hate it. Well, I think it's too smart for them too.
They have been born and raised to be driven.
Anyway thank you for the collection, and I can only think that the
terror people experience on the road keeps them from ever trying
bicycling for practical purposes. And these TERRORISTS we face don't
even have a cause!
LionWhisperer
> "LionWhisperer" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > (aka Comandante Banana)
>
> > AREN'T THE CHRISTIANS SIMILAR TO THE TALIBAN?
>
> No!
>
> Regards,
Ed, who can be head of the snake so I can center my attention on it...
THE MEDIA, THE ELITES, THE CORPORATIONS, PREDATORY CAPITALISM?
Who would you attack... because WE ARE UNDER ATTACK!
Edward Dolan
On Dec 11, 11:24 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "LionWhisperer" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:05892e9a-b7be-4fe0...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > (aka Comandante Banana)
>
> > AREN'T THE CHRISTIANS SIMILAR TO THE TALIBAN?
>
> No!
>>> Ed, who can be head of the snake so I can center my attention on it...
THE MEDIA, THE ELITES, THE CORPORATIONS, PREDATORY CAPITALISM?
>>> Who would you attack... because WE ARE UNDER ATTACK!
The "head of the snake", as you put it, is our own human nature. Most world
religions explain all of this in great detail but Christianity (Roman
Catholicism) does it better than any other.
We humans most resemble the chimpanzees. Like them, we are aggressive and
rambunctious and we do not get along well with anyone, not even ourselves.
Go my son and sin no more. Now say 100 Our Fathers and 1000 Hail Marys for
your penance.
Glad I was able to clear all of this up for you!
LionWhisperer
> "LionWhisperer" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:ba1e524d-6ac4-4e95...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 11, 11:24 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
> > "LionWhisperer" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:05892e9a-b7be-4fe0...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > (aka Comandante Banana)
>
> > > AREN'T THE CHRISTIANS SIMILAR TO THE TALIBAN?
>
> > No!
> >>> Ed, who can be head of the snake so I can center my attention on it...
>
> THE MEDIA, THE ELITES, THE CORPORATIONS, PREDATORY CAPITALISM?
>
> >>> Who would you attack... because WE ARE UNDER ATTACK!
>
> The "head of the snake", as you put it, is our own human nature. Most world
> religions explain all of this in great detail but Christianity (Roman
> Catholicism) does it better than any other.
>
> We humans most resemble the chimpanzees. Like them, we are aggressive and
> rambunctious and we do not get along well with anyone, not even ourselves.
>
> Go my son and sin no more. Now say 100 Our Fathers and 1000 Hail Marys for
> your penance.
>
> Glad I was able to clear all of this up for you!
You sort of agree with me, except for the solution...
If we are EVOLVED CHIMPS, then why not apply corrections such as those
used by Dog Whisperer, allowing for the different species. The
principle of Treat and Whip (or Good Dog, Bad Dog) applies the same.
We can go after the road predators just as we do with sexual predators
or terrorists. We have to punish them one way or another, we have to
let them know it's NOT OK to push people around. Let people report
them and bring them to justice. Otherwise they are holding the monkeys
in their cages, and that's totally insane. I would go insane if it
weren't for this outlet.
That's a fight against terrorism worth fighting.
LionWhisperer
> [[[ cars are heavier, faster => there is NO WAY bicycle rights will work ]]]-
Yes, they work together IF we make bike lanes and bike paths OR we let
the bikes TAKE THE LANE and force the cars to pass on ANOTHER LANE,
enforced with cameras and the own reports of the cyclists.
Anyway the interaction between cars and SUVs and between cars
themselves is completely chaotic and predatory. Few even know or care
about "lane discipline," the backbone or road safety.
Check out this book (yes, it makes a parallel between terror on the
road and terrorism)...
'It's No Accident: The Real Story Behind Senseless Death and Injury on
Our Roads'
LionWhisperer
"Americans know it's a jungle out there when they see it on TV..."
This website tells you how to survive in the jungle... all over the
world.
http://comebackalive.com/site3.php?page_id=9&sub_section_id=USA&sub_sub_section_id=thecountry
What this has to do with religion? Well, America is a "Christian
nation," so their influence must be felt out there, right?
There's one particular issue not mentioned in the website, and it's
notoriously dangerous, as my girlfriend who was driving home reminded
me: CARS SPEEDING AT OVER 100 MPH on regular highways. Don't know how
to dodge that bullet other than getting as much armor as I can.
Not even a small car can save me from those ROAD TERRORISTS.
LionWhisperer
> --- On Sat, 12/12/09, LionWhisperer <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Not even a small car can save me from those ROAD TERRORISTS.
>
>
> xnun
Yes, we can dream and hope. They all are free.
We can change things too, but that takes some more effort.
Listen to what this website is telling people: Write to your
Congressman about the lack of sidewalks...
Our politicians don't know that. They live in another world. We can
dream they care and hope they'll build sidewalks and bike facilities.
Or that they make an issue about SAFETY ON THE ROADS, for that matter.
Edward Dolan
>> We humans most resemble the chimpanzees. Like them, we are aggressive and
>> rambunctious and we do not get along well with anyone, not even
>> ourselves.
>>
>> Go my son and sin no more. Now say 100 Our Fathers and 1000 Hail Marys
>> for
>> your penance.
>>
>> Glad I was able to clear all of this up for you!
>
> You sort of agree with me, except for the solution...
>
>>> If we are EVOLVED CHIMPS, then why not apply corrections such as those
> used by Dog Whisperer, allowing for the different species. The
> principle of Treat and Whip (or Good Dog, Bad Dog) applies the same.
> We can go after the road predators just as we do with sexual predators
> or terrorists. We have to punish them one way or another, we have to
> let them know it's NOT OK to push people around. Let people report
> them and bring them to justice. Otherwise they are holding the monkeys
> in their cages, and that's totally insane. I would go insane if it
> weren't for this outlet.
>
>>> That's a fight against terrorism worth fighting.
Or as Pogo so eloquently put it, "We have met the enemy and he is us!"
LionWhisperer
> "LionWhisperer" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Well, thank you. I think we can create those conditions that lead to
civlization.
Not even Obama can tame the predators. You hate the word LIBERALISM,
so I hope you can live with HUMANISM, with a hands-on approch. The
word doesn't matter... it can be BANANA. Make bike lanes wherever
possible as well as bike lanes for the more able and daring. Or simply
let the cyclists take the lane.
Go after the bureaucracy that sucks everything like an octopus. Around
here they have built a good-for-nothing path that must have cost a
million bucks. Meanwhile the roads remain no-man's land...
Edward Dolan
> Or as Pogo so eloquently put it, "We have met the enemy and he is us!"
>> Well, thank you. I think we can create those conditions that lead to
civlization.
>> Not even Obama can tame the predators. You hate the word LIBERALISM,
so I hope you can live with HUMANISM, with a hands-on approch. The
word doesn't matter... it can be BANANA.
But words matter. Folks live or die by words. The words liberalism, humanism
and secularism all stand for something. I do not just hate the words, I hate
the substance of what the words represent.
>> Make bike lanes wherever
possible as well as bike lanes for the more able and daring. Or simply
let the cyclists take the lane.
The only solution are bike paths, not bike lanes. Bikes and motor vehicles
are a deadly mix.
>> Go after the bureaucracy that sucks everything like an octopus. Around
here they have built a good-for-nothing path that must have cost a
million bucks. Meanwhile the roads remain no-man's land...
Take the bike path and you will live longer. Sidewalks are OK too if there
is no one on them.
Edward Dolan
>> The "head of the snake", as you put it, is our own human nature. Most
>> world
>> religions explain all of this in great detail but Christianity (Roman
>> Catholicism) does it better than any other.
>>
>> We humans most resemble the chimpanzees. Like them, we are aggressive and
>> rambunctious and we do not get along well with anyone, not even
>> ourselves.
>>
>> Go my son and sin no more. Now say 100 Our Fathers and 1000 Hail Marys
>> for
>> your penance.
>>
>> Glad I was able to clear all of this up for you!
>
> You sort of agree with me, except for the solution...
Aye, I agree with you, 100 Our Fathers and 1,000 Hail Marys are not nearly
enough for a world class sinner like you. Saint Edward the Great has advised
me to charge you with a penance of 1,000 Our Fathers and 10,000 Hail Marys.
Only after you have said this penance will you be fit to press forward with
your agenda for world peace and harmony!
Opus
>snip<
> Take the bike path and you will live longer. Sidewalks are OK too if there
> is no one on them.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
Bike paths in the US are notorious for going nowhere, especially here
in Dallas County. Locally we have one paved trail that goes from one
end of a park to the other with one intersection with a major street,
but aside from some fast-food joints and a convenience store across
from where the path intersects the major street there is nothing of
interest commercially on the path and there are no residential areas
accessible from the path. Add to that there are more than 5 miles of
busy streets between my home and the path, and what you have is for me
at least, useless as transportation infrastructure. And the sharp
turns and narrow paving make it almost equally useless as exercise
equipment.
LionTeaser
> "LionWhisperer" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> - Show quoted text -
I think I better be known as a Lion Teaser than Tamer...
(Why a teaser? Because my job is to tease the lion until he roars...
and thus he's exposed as a beast.)
On Dec 9, 11:15 am, showmethehoney <alenasha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> imo you should be a forbidden fruit, and i aint xtian ;-)
Why am I forbidden??? ;)
There shouldn't be anything forbidden unless it hurts somebody. I
don't have a clue why God forbid the fruit that should have been good
to eat.
In evolution you learn by trying all the fruits, so you can tell the
good... from the poisonous.
If someone ate the wrong fruit... it should be considered a martyr! I
guess the first martyr for the Banana Revolution. ;)
--------------------------------------------------------------
Jungle Lessons
"Before you go into the jungle, learn what fruits to eat."
Dan O
<snip>
>
> Go after the bureaucracy that sucks everything like an octopus. Around
> here they have built a good-for-nothing path that must have cost a
> million bucks. Meanwhile the roads remain no-man's land...
A nearby city made a big deal about how bike-friendly they are by
converting an old railroad bridge into a multi-use path (not sure
where the money came from or how much). I rode over it. It was
clogged with pedestrians apparently sightseeing (worse than any
sidewalk), had big gaps in the concrete every ten feet or so (th-bump,
th-bump, th-bump... ), and ends up absolutely nowhere (adjoins a trail
that leads to the foot of *another* bridge that's a stone's throw away
from the "new" one and already had quite possibly the best, most
underutilized bike facility in the whole city). Even the pedestrians
just walk across for the view or whatever, then turn around and come
back to the parking lot.
On top of that, now the old RR bridge-cum-new MUP is closed for lead
paint abatement. (Wonder how much more *that's* gonna cost.)
Meanwhile, the rest of the city sucks, and most bicycle transportation
appears to be sidewalk oriented on second-hand BSO's by low-income,
DUI, and homeless types.
Mark J.
> On Dec 12, 9:06 pm, LionWhisperer <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Go after the bureaucracy that sucks everything like an octopus. Around
>> here they have built a good-for-nothing path that must have cost a
>> million bucks. Meanwhile the roads remain no-man's land...
>
> A nearby city made a big deal about how bike-friendly they are by
> converting an old railroad bridge into a multi-use path (not sure
> where the money came from or how much).
I gather you're talking about the Salem, OR bridge.
> I rode over it. It was clogged with pedestrians apparently sightseeing (worse than any
> sidewalk),
YES, that's the way MUPs are. Let's be honest with ourselves- it was
the ped/recreation aspect the city was most interested in, not genuine
alternative transportation. The bridge does connect two parks that are
heavily used in the summers. I think the city was fairly honest about
that, though their press does cite the cycling benefits, such as they are.
> had big gaps in the concrete every ten feet or so (th-bump,
> th-bump, th-bump... ),
I'd guess that's closer to every four feet,
> and ends up absolutely nowhere
There we part company. It connects W Salem with downtown across the
river, an important commuting route. I've cycled across that river twice
daily on weekdays for 20+ years. However, as you say:
(adjoins a trail
> that leads to the foot of *another* bridge that's a stone's throw away
> from the "new" one and already had quite possibly the best, most
> underutilized bike facility in the whole city).
Yes, there already was a very nice cycling facility across the river,
the one I've used for 23 years.
Even the pedestrians
> just walk across for the view or whatever, then turn around and come
> back to the parking lot.
The peds, most definitely. However, I've used it for my commute from
time to time as an alternative. The advantage is that it's street
level, contrasted to the other bridge's ~7% climb at each end. While
that isn't a serious problem for me, I imagine it does deter some of the
newbie cycle commuters.
> On top of that, now the old RR bridge-cum-new MUP is closed for lead
> paint abatement. (Wonder how much more *that's* gonna cost.)
Good question. The bridge was donated to the city for $1 and assumption
of the lead-abatement responsibilities. I think they've gotten some
serious grant money (probably federal, yes) to cover the latter. They
did enough of the abatement to make the bridge useable in the fall, then
closed it again to finish the job over the winter. Reopening in April.
> Meanwhile, the rest of the city sucks, and most bicycle transportation
> appears to be sidewalk oriented on second-hand BSO's by low-income,
> DUI, and homeless types.
I gather you don't live here. Portland, aren't you? Salem's bike
facilities are only so-so, but they are vastly better than when I moved
here over 20 years ago. The number of cycling commuters grows every
year, and while the number is far less than Portland's, the same could
be said for many cities.
A long time ago Salem adopted a policy of adding bike lanes to every
minor arterial and larger whenever they are refurbished. They reneged
on one project about ~15 years ago and the bike club jammed the next
city council meeting. Since then the city has largely upheld their
policy. Things aren't perfect for cyclists in Salem, not by far, but
things are improving and approaching "pretty tolerable." Some of the
facilities design is even thoughtful, though some isn't.
Getting back to the bridge, that's one of those projects that has a very
wide constituency. When that happens, you get compromise. For what it
is, it came out nicely. It's not a bicycle freeway, but I can tolerate
using it in my commute when I'm not in a hurry. Coming home after a
hard day, it can be a quiet ~1 mile break from the other bridge's
traffic noise, even if I can barely manage above a walking pace.
And no, I had no hand in the project.
Mark J.
Edward Dolan
"Opus" <opust...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eb907ee4-bf71-4f38...@9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 13, 5:31 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>>snip<
>> Take the bike path and you will live longer. Sidewalks are OK too if
>> there
>> is no one on them.
>
> in Dallas County. Locally we have one paved trail that goes from one
> end of a park to the other with one intersection with a major street,
> but aside from some fast-food joints and a convenience store across
> from where the path intersects the major street there is nothing of
> interest commercially on the path and there are no residential areas
> accessible from the path. Add to that there are more than 5 miles of
> busy streets between my home and the path, and what you have is for me
> at least, useless as transportation infrastructure. And the sharp
> turns and narrow paving make it almost equally useless as exercise
> equipment.
I would say that Minnesota and Wisconsin have plenty of bike paths that go
places. The rails to trails movement is the best idea ever to hit this
country. Once you have experienced a good bike trail, you will wonder about
the sanity of cycling on streets and roads with motor vehicles.
LionTeaser
> On Dec 12, 9:06 pm, LionWhisperer <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>
>
> > here they have built a good-for-nothing path that must have cost a
> > million bucks. Meanwhile the roads remain no-man's land...
>
> converting an old railroad bridge into a multi-use path (not sure
> clogged with pedestrians apparently sightseeing (worse than any
> th-bump, th-bump... ), and ends up absolutely nowhere (adjoins a trail
> that leads to the foot of *another* bridge that's a stone's throw away
> from the "new" one and already had quite possibly the best, most
> just walk across for the view or whatever, then turn around and come
> back to the parking lot.
>
> paint abatement. (Wonder how much more *that's* gonna cost.)
>
> appears to be sidewalk oriented on second-hand BSO's by low-income,
> DUI, and homeless types.
It sounds like the Banana Republic of Miami... Here they let some
unmarked, unpainted parking cement blocks (those to stop the wheels)
rigtht at the entrance of the path, so once I went over the whole
thing, and didn't flip over by sheer luck, without ever see it coming.
I complained in local forums and other ways, and the blocks are still
there. Then the lights far from helping they totally blind you,
forcing me to wear sunglasses at night. And they still keep pouring
money into it, landscaping, engraving the name of the streets... a
monument to stupidity --and
juicy contracts. ;)
LionTeaser
> "LionWhisperer" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e7bef9be-288f-44ae...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 12, 8:13 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Or as Pogo so eloquently put it, "We have met the enemy and he is us!"
> >> Well, thank you. I think we can create those conditions that lead to
>
> civlization.
>
> >> Not even Obama can tame the predators. You hate the word LIBERALISM,
>
> so I hope you can live with HUMANISM, with a hands-on approch. The
> word doesn't matter... it can be BANANA.
>
> But words matter. Folks live or die by words. The words liberalism, humanism
> and secularism all stand for something. I do not just hate the words, I hate
> the substance of what the words represent.
>
> >> Make bike lanes wherever
>
> possible as well as bike lanes for the more able and daring. Or simply
> let the cyclists take the lane.
>
> The only solution are bike paths, not bike lanes. Bikes and motor vehicles
> are a deadly mix.
>
> >> Go after the bureaucracy that sucks everything like an octopus. Around
>
> here they have built a good-for-nothing path that must have cost a
> million bucks. Meanwhile the roads remain no-man's land...
>
> Take the bike path and you will live longer. Sidewalks are OK too if there
> is no one on them.
>
I totally reject socialist clowns like Chavez.
I look at the practical aspect of it: The Mayor of Curitiba, Brazil,
was a Humanist and he changed the city to be a model for the Third
World --and America...
http://rocksolidoddities.blogspot.com/2009/06/jaime-lerner-cambiare-brazil.html
Dan O
Around here, as they're spending stimulus money repaving everything
they can whether it needs it or not, they put up the orange temporary
caution signs, "Slow", "Road Work Ahead", "Flagger Ahead", "Be
Prepared to Stop", etc., right smack dab *in* the bike lane. But
wait, it gets better: Since it's apparently too much trouble to take
the signs down and put them away at the end of day, then get them out
again to set them up in the morning, they just lay them down on their
face right there *still in the bike lane* and leave them for the night
- reflective part face down and skinny black steel legs sticking up
like some kind of booby trap in the dark.
LionTeaser
> like some kind of booby trap in the dark.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
What can I say, that the money goes into the Black Hole of
bureaucracy? I'm sure it all gets sucked up quickly without visible
results.
Well, sometimes you do see the results, but they are conspicuously
UNSAFE, UNSOUND and TOTALLY WASTEFUL.
Case in point is the mixed path near me. Again, the metaphor of the
jungle comes handy. Predators need territory, and prey needs
territory. And to mix pedestrians, dogs, bicycles and everything in
between, is a major safety hazard. We cyclists have been removed from
a predatory environment dominated by cars and have become involuntary
predators, not deadly but still dangerous. Anyone wandering into our
path becomes fair game, and people out for a stroll do that all the
time, and so do dogs and kids.
So the hope is that somehow, someday our politicians notice stuff like
that and do pay attention to what's going in the jungle.
With the money that went into this mixed path to make the beautiful
people who walk their beautiful dogs happy, they could made 20 miles
of bike lanes from South Beach to Hollywood.
But under predatory capitalism we use our cleverness to make money not
make good works.
LionTeaser
forums...
http://forums.miamibeach411.com/index.php?/forums/viewthread/6095/
I don't know what kind of democracy we live in that everybody seems to
be happy with the scraps, and whenever I face someone in authority,
they tell me that people don't conplain. I guess the sheep are well
trained.
I saw this lady from the local goverment, in charge of the beautiful
landscape, and she was all smiles, but nothing got done.