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Annika1980

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Apr 15, 2009, 4:49:37 PM4/15/09
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WOOOHOOO!!!

I was born white.

WOOOHOOO!!!

Gosh, I just love my white pride!

Empathy

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Apr 15, 2009, 5:47:50 PM4/15/09
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> Biggest threat facing America is the impact of


McCorporate Multinationals subverting all that doesn't enrich the top
1% of the organization;

CEO
Exec VP'S
Boards of Directors

_Healthcare_: Any WEALTHY MODERN nation that looks the other way while
her own people die and suffer, is deeply, deeply sick.

Regards,

M
>
http://tinyurl.com/mvm420
>

SotR

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Apr 15, 2009, 6:28:24 PM4/15/09
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>>>>>>>>>>>>Healthcare_: Any WEALTHY MODERN nation that looks the other way
>>>>>>>>>>>>while
her own people die and suffer, is deeply, deeply sick.<<<<<

Illegal aliens are not "Her [America's] own People".
But that's beside the point. A person from Africa who braved every
hardship imaginable to come and live in America was asked why he wanted to
live here. His reply was "Because America is only country on earth where
poor people are fat".

SotR


Empathy

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Apr 15, 2009, 6:45:56 PM4/15/09
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S(ot)omize(R)...You've managed to confuse issues. As much as the illegal
alien concern is real, using it as a cover for the larger reality;

Tens of millions of _native_born_US_citizens_ have undergone living hell
as insurance companies and "providers" have turned their backs on them.


> Biggest threat facing America is the impact of


McCorporate Multinationals subverting all that doesn't enrich the top
1% of the organization;

CEO
Exec VP'S
Boards of Directors

_Healthcare_: Any WEALTHY MODERN nation that looks the other way while

her own people die and suffer, is deeply, deeply sick.

Regards,

M
>
http://tinyurl.com/mvm420

Empathy

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Apr 15, 2009, 6:57:26 PM4/15/09
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> Tens of millions of _native_born_US_citizens_ have undergone living hell
> as insurance companies and "providers" have turned their backs on them.
>
>
> > Biggest threat facing America is the impact of
>
>
> McCorporate Multinationals subverting all that doesn't enrich the top
> 1% of the organization;
>
> CEO
> Exec VP'S
> Boards of Directors
>
> _Healthcare_: Any WEALTHY MODERN nation that looks the other way while
> her own people die and suffer, is deeply, deeply sick.
>
> Regards,
>
> M
>
> http://tinyurl.com/mvm420
>

P.S. So(tomize)R...

While you've got a chub on for illegial aliens, Africans, etc.,
[attempting to dilute / co-opt the Healthcare issue with your own
biased H88 agenda...] factual reality here on Earth, in the USA has been
underway for decades:

http://tinyurl.com/SoTvsFact

SotR

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Apr 15, 2009, 9:25:59 PM4/15/09
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Empathy you ignorant slut.

You are the one confusing issues. The OP's point was exactly about ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS, not legal American citizens in poverty. If we got rid of just a
fraction of these people sucking the tit of the American tax payer (to
borrow from Chuck Grassley) then there would be a lot more money to help the
legal Americans.
But noooo, you only see what you want to see.


SotR


Artcinco

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Apr 15, 2009, 9:41:50 PM4/15/09
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In article <_VvFl.24032$c45....@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"SotR" <stone...@notspamlycos.nospamcom> wrote:


The idea that they come here to deliver babies who then become citizens
and we have to then pay for their care is disgusting

Fawn Hall Ho

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Apr 15, 2009, 9:25:49 PM4/15/09
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Empathy wrote:
> CEO
> Exec VP'S
> Boards of Directors
>
>

Child molesters and Used Car Salesman have a better reputation now
than Bankers and Whore Street execs .

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Calif Bill

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Apr 15, 2009, 11:07:54 PM4/15/09
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"Spender" <Spe...@Mars.org> wrote in message
news:0o6du4559ie618bl8...@news.easynews.com...
> This isn't anywhere near as true as you think. It is too often said that
> illegal immigrants don't pay taxes. That may be true when it comes to
> income taxes - if they are paid under the table. But they pay sales taxes
> and property taxes. The companies that make money off of their labor also
> pay taxes.
>

And most citizens making the annual wage of the illegal do not pay any
income taxes either.


SotR

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Apr 15, 2009, 11:37:00 PM4/15/09
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>>>>>>>>And most citizens making the annual wage of the illegal do not pay
>>>>>>>>any income taxes either. <<<<<<

Yes, but "citizens" being the operative word here. I don't have any problem
with legal immigration. But make these people come here via the legal
system.

SotR


Empathy

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Apr 16, 2009, 12:11:37 AM4/16/09
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Sounds like Glenn Beck talking -to obfuscate and issue.

Empathy

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Apr 16, 2009, 12:15:53 AM4/16/09
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Sot(omize(R),

What "you want to see" is the thread go off on illegal aliens,
minorities, etc...that's why you erased:

http://tinyurl.com/SoTvsFact

SotR

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Apr 16, 2009, 12:21:53 AM4/16/09
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I didn't erase anything, I was responding to the point.

SotR


Calif Bill

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Apr 16, 2009, 12:30:39 AM4/16/09
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"SotR" <stone...@notspamlycos.nospamcom> wrote in message
news:_JxFl.29212$ZP4....@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...

True. Bring back the Bracero program. Temporary work permits. But do not
use the excuse they do not pay income taxes as legals are not paying them
either in the same pay grade.


Empathy

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Apr 16, 2009, 7:07:21 AM4/16/09
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SotR wrote:

> I didn't erase anything, I was responding to the point.
>
> SotR
>
>

OK... ---> http://tinyurl.com/SoTvsFact

Point on that, Fido. ;-)

Howard Brazee

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Apr 16, 2009, 7:53:18 AM4/16/09
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Getting rid of prohibition would do what it did last time - make us
all much safer.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Howard Brazee

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Apr 16, 2009, 7:54:25 AM4/16/09
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On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:07:54 -0700, "Calif Bill"
<bmcke...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>And most citizens making the annual wage of the illegal do not pay any
>income taxes either.

They pay social security, but don't benefit from it.

Howard Brazee

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Apr 16, 2009, 7:54:58 AM4/16/09
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On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:37:00 -0700, "SotR"
<stone...@notspamlycos.nospamcom> wrote:

>Yes, but "citizens" being the operative word here. I don't have any problem
>with legal immigration. But make these people come here via the legal
>system.

But any children born here are citizens just like me.

SotR

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Apr 16, 2009, 8:14:59 AM4/16/09
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God you're an idiot Empathy. All those links you targeted only strengthen my
argument at your failure to
recognize the OP's point.

SotR


Anthony Williams

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Apr 16, 2009, 12:21:18 PM4/16/09
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"Howard Brazee" <how...@brazee.net> wrote in message
news:n37eu4luj70apc0ai...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:37:00 -0700, "SotR"
> <stone...@notspamlycos.nospamcom> wrote:
>
>>Yes, but "citizens" being the operative word here. I don't have any
>>problem
>>with legal immigration. But make these people come here via the legal
>>system.
>
> But any children born here are citizens just like me.

True they can stay. But don't try to feed me this lie they we are breaking
up families. They're free to leave the country with their padres y madres.

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Calif Bill

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Apr 16, 2009, 2:02:20 PM4/16/09
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"Howard Brazee" <how...@brazee.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:37:00 -0700, "SotR"
> <stone...@notspamlycos.nospamcom> wrote:
>
>>Yes, but "citizens" being the operative word here. I don't have any
>>problem
>>with legal immigration. But make these people come here via the legal
>>system.
>
> But any children born here are citizens just like me.
>

Why? No where does the law actually say that the children of illegals are
required to considered citizens.


Empathy

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Apr 16, 2009, 2:03:00 PM4/16/09
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> Sot(omize)R wrote:
>
> God...failure...again.
>
> Sot(omize)R

http://tinyurl.com/SoTvsFact

and while you're down and kicked,

http://www.slaverybyanothername.com

PatTX

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Apr 16, 2009, 2:10:57 PM4/16/09
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Calif Bill wrote:
:: Why? No where does the law actually say that the children of

:: illegals are required to considered citizens.

If a person is born on U.S. soil, they're a U.S. citizen. It's in the
Constitution.....


Anthony Williams

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Apr 16, 2009, 2:15:43 PM4/16/09
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"Calif Bill" <bmcke...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Really? Well, maybe you can explain the 14th Amendment of the U.S.
Constitution to us. (This ought to be good.)

HK

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Apr 16, 2009, 2:27:59 PM4/16/09
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If they are born in the United States, shit-for-brains, they are citizens.

Ever read the 14th Amendment? Or do you not consider Constitutional
Amendments law?

Section 1. All persons *born* or naturalized in the United States, and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
and of the State wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any
law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty,
or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within
its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


The Supremes have not expanded upon that definition specifically to
cover those children of illegals born here, but most sane people
do not think they have to do so. I suggest lower courts would consider
it black letter law.


Bilious, you really ought to retire yourself along with your senility.

Empathy

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Apr 16, 2009, 2:52:23 PM4/16/09
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These guys are primo *iLL*. The most effective way to deal with them is
ridicule, including proof-source refutations where appropriate (as
you have, here). Nice going! M

>
http://tinyul.com/mvm420
>

Calif Bill

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Apr 16, 2009, 6:22:12 PM4/16/09
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"Empathy" <AllTHATis+.org> wrote in message
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Where are they "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" they are here
illegally.


Empathy

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Apr 16, 2009, 6:30:49 PM4/16/09
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> Calif Bill wrote:

>
>>> HK Wrote:
>
>>> If they are born in the United States, shit-for-brains, they are
>>> citizens.
>>>
>>> Ever read the 14th Amendment? Or do you not consider Constitutional
>>> Amendments law?
>>>
>>> Section 1. All persons *born* or naturalized in the United States, and
>>> subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States
>>> and of the State wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any
>>> law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
>>> United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty,
>>> or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within
>>> its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Supremes have not expanded upon that definition specifically to cover
>>> those children of illegals born here, but most sane people
>>> do not think they have to do so. I suggest lower courts would consider it
>>> black letter law.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bilious, you really ought to retire yourself along with your senility.
>
> Where are they "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" they are here
> illegally.
>
>

Ahhh...reading comprehension... ? ;-)

_That_ is your response to:

>> If they are born in the United States, shit-for-brains, they are
>> citizens.

?

HK probably gave up on bothering to discuss the matter with you. I can
clearly see why. :-) M

HK

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Apr 16, 2009, 6:47:44 PM4/16/09
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Why don't you "study up" on the meaning of "subject to the jurisdiction
thereof" and get back to us?

After you figure that part out, please tell us how someone born in a
U.S. hospital is here "illegally," since that someone is immediately a
U.S. citizen.

Really, Bilious.

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Tom Keats

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Apr 16, 2009, 9:08:10 PM4/16/09
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In article <ebdcu49e5hh9c1c3v...@4ax.com>,
wis...@yahoo.com writes:
> http://www.newnation.org/ New Nation News
>
> http://www.wvwnews.net/ Western Voices World News
>
> http://www.amren.com/ American Renaissance
>
> http://www.vdare.com/ V-Dare
>
> http://www.halturnershow.com/ Hal Turner Show
>
> Biggest threat facing America is the impact of illegal
> immigration. Over 2,000 Americans killed yearly by
> illegal aliens. Population explosion due to high mestizo*
> birth rate. All leading to total cultural distortion.
>
> ted
>
> *Mestizo: A spanish speaking third-worlder whose DNA is appx.
> 80% central American indian, 15% negro from freed slaves who
> bred with indians, 5% european. Group IQ 87. Illegal alien cost yearly
> to taxpayers 383 billion dollars.

You should move to Gilligan's Island, where I'm
sure you'd be happier.

Everybody else would be, too.

--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

Artcinco

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Apr 16, 2009, 9:18:50 PM4/16/09
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In article <qpk8sg...@news.motzarella.org>,
tkeat...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:

> You should move to Gilligan's Island, where I'm
> sure you'd be happier.

what are the laws there?

Tom Keats

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Apr 16, 2009, 9:31:43 PM4/16/09
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In article <vgifu4t2sr03pnv6e...@news.easynews.com>,
Spender <Spe...@Mars.org> writes:

> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:02:20 -0700, "Calif Bill"
> <bmcke...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>Why? No where does the law actually say that the children of illegals are
>>required to considered citizens.
>
> Section 1 of the 14th amendment. "All persons born or naturalized in the

> United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of
> the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

AIUI in the past that included ocean liners (when ocean
liners existed. US ocean liners are/were US territory.)
I dunno fer sher how it works for US airliners, but I'd
think it's the same deal.

Back in the post WWII years there were a number of
children born on US ocean liners bringing pregnant
immigrants from Europe. And their parents weren't
yet officially Americans -- their own kids beat them
to the punch, just by being born in the right place,
which could have been in the middle of the Atlantic
Ocean. Probably in rough seas, at 2:30 AM.


cheers,
Tom

Tom Keats

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Apr 16, 2009, 9:38:09 PM4/16/09
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In article <McTard-8211FD....@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>,

If Little Buddy screws up, you get to whap him
with your hat.

And everybody gets a turn at making electricity
by pedaling the stationary bike.

PatTX

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Apr 16, 2009, 9:43:49 PM4/16/09
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Calif Bill wrote:
::
:: Where are they "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" they are here
:: illegally.

I am going to procede as if this is a valid attempt to understand the
subject. Bill, imagine yourself going on a trip to Italy. Once you cross the
border, you are subject to the jurisdiction of the Italian authorities. Any
person, anywhere, is always subject to the legal jurisdiction of the country
in which they are occupying a space.

If you are still in the airplane on your way to Italy, you are under the
jurisdiction of the United States lawful authorities, and, in particular,
the captain of the airplane.

That's just the way it is....

Pat in TX


PatTX

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Apr 16, 2009, 9:45:38 PM4/16/09
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Tom Keats wrote:
."
::
:: AIUI in the past that included ocean liners (when ocean

:: liners existed. US ocean liners are/were US territory.)
:: I dunno fer sher how it works for US airliners, but I'd
:: think it's the same deal.

Oh yeah, it's the same deal: the captain of that airplane is in charge. If
it's a Swissair plane, you're under the jurisdiction of Switzerland. Bottom
line: there is no place on earth where a person is not under some country's
jurisdiction.

Pat in TX


Tom Sherman

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Apr 16, 2009, 9:54:22 PM4/16/09
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PatTX wrote:
> Calif Bill wrote:
> ::
> :: Where are they "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" they are here
> :: illegally.
>
> I am going to procede as if this is a valid attempt to understand the
> subject. Bill, imagine yourself going on a trip to Italy. Once you cross the
> border, you are subject to the jurisdiction of the Italian authorities. Any
> person, anywhere, is always subject to the legal jurisdiction of the country
> in which they are occupying a space.[...]

Unless the person(s) have diplomatic immunity.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

Tom Sherman

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Apr 16, 2009, 9:55:24 PM4/16/09
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Non-territorial waters in your own vessel.

Tom Keats

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Apr 16, 2009, 10:09:11 PM4/16/09
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In article <gs8ni9$8ph$2...@news.motzarella.org>,

Tom Sherman <sunsetss000...@yahoo.com> writes:
> PatTX wrote:
>> Tom Keats wrote:
>> ."
>> ::
>> :: AIUI in the past that included ocean liners (when ocean
>> :: liners existed. US ocean liners are/were US territory.)
>> :: I dunno fer sher how it works for US airliners, but I'd
>> :: think it's the same deal.
>>
>> Oh yeah, it's the same deal: the captain of that airplane is in charge. If
>> it's a Swissair plane, you're under the jurisdiction of Switzerland. Bottom
>> line: there is no place on earth where a person is not under some country's
>> jurisdiction.
>>
> Non-territorial waters in your own vessel.

I keep one or two of those under my bed.
I guess I've reached that age.
Except my waters are pretty territorial
and my jurisdiction, as are my vessels.

Beats having to take a walk in the middle
of the night.

Forgive me -- I'm human, like all the rest
of us riff-raff from all over the world.

Twibil

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Apr 16, 2009, 10:16:13 PM4/16/09
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On Apr 16, 6:18 pm, Artcinco <McT...@happyTardz.com> wrote:
>
> > You should move to Gilligan's Island, where I'm
> > sure you'd be happier.
>
> what are the laws there?

Let's put it this way: Everyone there is white, but the Skipper,
Gilligan, and the Professor are almost certainly gay since all three
of them seem perfectly content to keep their relationships with Mary
Ann and Ginger on a platonic basis even after years of isolation. Of
course, Mary Ann and Ginger may well be an item too. They seem to
spend a lot of time off-camera together...

In short, if you're okay with gay racists you ought to fit right in.

Calif Bill

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Apr 16, 2009, 11:51:47 PM4/16/09
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"HK" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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Really dumbshit. The court has actually never ruled on the Anchor Babies.
The 14th when it went in force did not include some people born in the USA.
Did not include indians born on reservations. Maybe you should do a little
reading on the subject.


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RichL

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Apr 17, 2009, 12:07:24 AM4/17/09
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Calif Bill <bmcke...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Really dumbshit. The court has actually never ruled on the Anchor
> Babies.

They don't need to since it's spelled out pretty clearly in black and
white in the Amendment.

I love it when the so-called "strict constructionist" frauds get caught
in their own trap.


Calif Bill

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Apr 17, 2009, 2:24:21 AM4/17/09
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"Spender" <Spe...@Mars.org> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:51:47 -0700, "Calif Bill"
> <bmcke...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>"HK" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>news:r46dnasdhsYNKHrU...@earthlink.com...
>>>
>>> After you figure that part out, please tell us how someone born in a
>>> U.S.
>>> hospital is here "illegally," since that someone is immediately a U.S.
>>> citizen.
>>
>>Really dumbshit. The court has actually never ruled on the Anchor Babies.
>>The 14th when it went in force did not include some people born in the
>>USA.
>>Did not include indians born on reservations. Maybe you should do a
>>little
>>reading on the subject.
>
> The court has never ruled on it, so the law stands as it reads. Anyone
> born in the U.S. is a U.S. citizen.
>
> If *you* would do a little reading you would discover that indian
> reservations are not technically part of the U.S. They are in essence
> considered to be sovereign territory.
>

True, but people born on a reservation are considered US Citizens now.
Rules change as interpretations change. Why I said the court has not ruled
on the anchor babies, but they could very well declare them non citizens.
The law does not stand as it reads. As the court has not really said what
it reads.


Calif Bill

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Apr 17, 2009, 2:25:54 AM4/17/09
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"RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Not spelled out. The indians were not considered citizens when born on the
reservation even after the 14th amendment.


HK

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Apr 17, 2009, 6:03:48 AM4/17/09
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As I stated, pretty much black letter law. There's no need for the
Supremes to get into this, and they haven't. Native Americans were not
considered citizens back then only because of white boy discrimination
and because by not considering them citizens, it was easier to exploit them.

We're not going back to white rule, Bilious. Get over your hate.

HK

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Apr 17, 2009, 6:05:05 AM4/17/09
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Even the right-wing court we now have is not going down that road,
bilious. Sorry, the days of white boy rule are over.

White Spirit

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Apr 17, 2009, 8:07:17 AM4/17/09
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RichL wrote:

> They don't need to since it's spelled out pretty clearly in black and
> white in the Amendment.

> I love it when the so-called "strict constructionist" frauds get caught
> in their own trap.

Rich, I thought you didn't cross-post off-topic political nonsense to
alt.guitar? You threw a tantrum last time I accused you of being a
hypocrite and then you had to go and prove me right.


The moderator

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Apr 17, 2009, 10:04:43 AM4/17/09
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"Artcinco" <McT...@happyTardz.com> wrote in message
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Just like they are here. The stupid looking, skinny guy is screwing
everything up.


HK

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Apr 17, 2009, 10:11:41 AM4/17/09
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Well, you've hit pay dirt in rec.boats, where at least a half-dozen
regular posters are regular white racists.

PatTX

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Apr 17, 2009, 10:18:36 AM4/17/09
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Twibil wrote:

I guess you meant this to be funny, but you didn't spend enough time
thinking it through. The people on the island were all white because that's
who chartered the boat that particular day. It doesn't make them racist!

You assume everyone is gay. That says more about you than it does about
them.

Pat


PatTX

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Apr 17, 2009, 10:20:29 AM4/17/09
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The moderator wrote:
:: "Artcinco" <McT...@happyTardz.com> wrote in message

You lost! You lost! Get used to it! After 8 years of the stupid looking,
poor English skills, faux Texan, the American people rose up and said
"Enough of this idiocy!" That's why your party is enjoying a 26% approval
rate. You're just a bitter loser.

Pat in TX


Calif Bill

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Apr 17, 2009, 2:21:26 PM4/17/09
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"HK" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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Stupid lefty elitist. Where the hell I say anything about white rule? You
are the racist pig of the newsgroup. I am stating about legal status for a
kid snuck into the country while still in the womb. Does not matter what
color. Whites from Eastern European countries are doing the same thing.


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Anthony Williams

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Apr 17, 2009, 4:03:09 PM4/17/09
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"Calif Bill" <bmcke...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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And that's called a false analogy boys and girls. Try comparing apples tp
apples.

No Sympathy Fo de DEBBILZ

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Apr 17, 2009, 4:32:36 PM4/17/09
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Calif Bill wrote:
> "HK" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:0NGdnWVnNpOZyXXU...@earthlink.com...

>> We're not going back to white rule, Bilious. Get over your hate.
>
> Stupid lefty elitist. Where the hell I say anything about white rule? You
> are the racist pig of the newsgroup. I am stating about legal status for a
> kid snuck into the country while still in the womb. Does not matter what
> color. Whites from Eastern European countries are doing the same thing.
>
>

*Imagine* the _audacity_ of a parent wanting a better life for their
children. Who do they think they are-- American's?

Bill...you're a full douche bag on fire. :-) M

Anthony Williams

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"Spender" <Spe...@Mars.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:05:05 -0400, HK <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote:

>
>>Calif Bill wrote:
>>>
>>> True, but people born on a reservation are considered US Citizens now.
>>> Rules change as interpretations change. Why I said the court has not
>>> ruled
>>> on the anchor babies, but they could very well declare them non
>>> citizens.
>>> The law does not stand as it reads. As the court has not really said
>>> what
>>> it reads.
>>
>>Even the right-wing court we now have is not going down that road,
>>bilious. Sorry, the days of white boy rule are over.
>
> Right-wing? That is absurd.

I think he is referring to the U.S. Supreme Court.

> Some European nations have legally closed the
> anchor baby loophole for the same reasons that many are concerned about in
> America. They are far from being right-wing. A rational citizenry knows
> when they are being played for fools.

Stanley Moore

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"HK" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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Isn't it true in the context of the 14th that the proviso was to clarify the
status of former slaves and their descendents? Take care
--
Stanley L. Moore
"The belief in a supernatural
source of evil is not necessary;
men alone are quite capable
of every wickedness."
Joseph Conrad


Stanley Moore

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"Calif Bill" <bmcke...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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IF they can be arrested and tried for crimes committed, if they are
compelled to pay taxes (like sales taxes) etc. they ARE under the
jurisdiction of the USA. Take care

HK

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Apr 17, 2009, 4:43:01 PM4/17/09
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Anthony Williams wrote:
>
> "Spender" <Spe...@Mars.org> wrote in message
> news:m4khu493ap4cuqrr8...@news.easynews.com...
>> On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:05:05 -0400, HK <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Calif Bill wrote:
>>>>
>>>> True, but people born on a reservation are considered US Citizens now.
>>>> Rules change as interpretations change. Why I said the court has
>>>> not ruled
>>>> on the anchor babies, but they could very well declare them non
>>>> citizens.
>>>> The law does not stand as it reads. As the court has not really
>>>> said what
>>>> it reads.
>>>
>>> Even the right-wing court we now have is not going down that road,
>>> bilious. Sorry, the days of white boy rule are over.
>>
>> Right-wing? That is absurd.
>
> I think he is referring to the U.S. Supreme Court.


Correct.

HK

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Apr 17, 2009, 4:48:03 PM4/17/09
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One of the reasons why the criminal Bush Admin took those guys to GITMO
was because they thought it was not "subject to the jurisdiction."

I always thought GITMO was an ironic choice. Here we have been
castigating Castro for 50 years for how he holds mock trial and abuses
prisoners, and we turn around and do the same damned thing, on Cuban
soil. The Cubans should have abrogated the damned lease.

We have been dishonored internationally in horrible ways by the Bush Admin.

Calif Bill

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Apr 17, 2009, 5:08:56 PM4/17/09
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"Spender" <Spe...@Mars.org> wrote in message
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> All you have to do is read it to see how it reads... As you said, the
> courts *could* declare anchor babies to be non-citizens. Until then (and
> there is virtually no chance it would ever happen) they *are* citizens.
>
> Many western countries have changed their laws in this respect because of
> the exact problem you are concerned about. But America hasn't. Even if we
> did, the law would not apply to any anchor babies that are already here.
>

All you have to do is read it to see how it reads... Ummmmm. . . 2nd
Amendment?


Calif Bill

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Apr 17, 2009, 5:09:50 PM4/17/09
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"HK" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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Bull!


Calif Bill

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"Anthony Williams" <Truth...@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Nope. True fact. The rulings just not have been made by the Supremes.


HK

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Yeah, any day now, right, Bilious?

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Calif Bill

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"No Sympathy Fo de DEBBILZ" <Chop.Chop!@nummaWON.net> wrote in message
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Talking about douche bags. They can bring their family to America. Get in
line like the rest of the legal immigrants. Under your resoning, someone
can rob a bank or liquor store because they want a better life for the
children.


Calif Bill

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"Stanley Moore" <smoo...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I do not think that is the historic interpretation of "subject to the
jurisdiction thereof". In other words, someone kills an American Diplomat
abroad, they instantly become an American citizen? The law says we can
arrest an try those who do jsut that.


HK

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Apr 17, 2009, 5:57:43 PM4/17/09
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It would be better if for each hard-working immigrant family, we could
deport one useless old right-wing fart who contributes nothing but whines.

Pack your bags, Bilious.

Don White

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Apr 17, 2009, 6:32:36 PM4/17/09
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"HK" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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What country would take him?
I vote for Somalia.... he can be the liaison guy for the American shippers
federation.


BACONATER

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Apr 17, 2009, 6:42:27 PM4/17/09
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In article <i2uhu4hnuf6smgtjh...@news.easynews.com>,
Spender <Spe...@Mars.org> wrote:

> So I pointed out that some European countries have passed
> laws to ban anchor babies.

Gosh SoRRy 'bout u'r LucK mayB u can get PEDOSHINE to adopt u'r PuNK ASS
--
Shit Shat FaTTy Ass, give The PIG a Bone, this BIG FAT SLOB goes rolling home

PEDOTARD PIG FACE SHITSHINE the GREASY CIRCUS PIG
& WORTHLESS DELUSIONAL LYING PATHETIC PATHOLOGICAL
PERVERT'd FAT STUPID ReTARD'd PEDOPHILE RABID WARTHOG says WHAT???

HK

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Apr 17, 2009, 6:51:59 PM4/17/09
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You think there is room there for the white boys here who don't like
blacks?

PatTX

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Apr 17, 2009, 7:00:04 PM4/17/09
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The only way to change it is with an amendment to the Constitution, Bill.
Saying "Bull" a thousand times won't change that.

Pat in TX


PatTX

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Apr 17, 2009, 7:01:27 PM4/17/09
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Spender wrote:
:: On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:34:16 -0500, "Anthony Williams"
:: <Truth...@swbell.net> wrote:
::
:::
::: "Spender" <Spe...@Mars.org> wrote in message

::: news:m4khu493ap4cuqrr8...@news.easynews.com...
:::: On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:05:05 -0400, HK <payer...@mypacks.net>
:::: wrote:
::::
::::: Calif Bill wrote:
::::::
:::::: True, but people born on a reservation are considered US
:::::: Citizens now. Rules change as interpretations change. Why I
:::::: said the court has not ruled
:::::: on the anchor babies, but they could very well declare them non
:::::: citizens.
:::::: The law does not stand as it reads. As the court has not really
:::::: said what
:::::: it reads.
:::::
::::: Even the right-wing court we now have is not going down that road,
::::: bilious. Sorry, the days of white boy rule are over.
::::
:::: Right-wing? That is absurd.
:::
::: I think he is referring to the U.S. Supreme Court.
::
:: Yes, I know. So I pointed out that some European countries have
:: passed laws to ban anchor babies. They can hardly be considered
:: right-wing. So why would the SCOTUS be considered right-wing for
:: doing so?

It can't change the Constitution. There has to be a Constitutional amendment
to do that.

Pat in TX


PatTX

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Apr 17, 2009, 7:02:25 PM4/17/09
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Spender wrote:
:: On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:24:21 -0700, "Calif Bill"

:: <bmcke...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
::
::: True, but people born on a reservation are considered US Citizens
::: now. Rules change as interpretations change. Why I said the court
::: has not ruled on the anchor babies, but they could very well
::: declare them non citizens. The law does not stand as it reads. As
::: the court has not really said what it reads.
::
:: All you have to do is read it to see how it reads... As you said, the

:: courts *could* declare anchor babies to be non-citizens. Until then
:: (and there is virtually no chance it would ever happen) they *are*
:: citizens.
::
:: Many western countries have changed their laws in this respect
:: because of the exact problem you are concerned about. But America
:: hasn't. Even if we did, the law would not apply to any anchor babies
:: that are already here.

The court cannot change it. It has to be done with an amendment to the
Constitution.

Pat in TX


PatTX

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Apr 17, 2009, 7:07:15 PM4/17/09
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Calif Bill wrote:
:::
:: I do not think that is the historic interpretation of "subject to the

:: jurisdiction thereof". In other words, someone kills an American
:: Diplomat abroad, they instantly become an American citizen? The law
:: says we can arrest an try those who do jsut that.

I wish I could figure this out. What would killing someone in, say, France,
make someone a citizen of America? What law, exactly, says an American
police officer can arrest and try someone who kills an American in another
country?

Pat in TX


Calif Bill

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Apr 17, 2009, 8:16:54 PM4/17/09
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"Spender" <Spe...@Mars.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:08:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
> <bmcke...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>"Spender" <Spe...@Mars.org> wrote in message
>>news:ofjhu45n94rhfshad...@news.easynews.com...
>>>
>>> Many western countries have changed their laws in this respect because
>>> of
>>> the exact problem you are concerned about. But America hasn't. Even if
>>> we
>>> did, the law would not apply to any anchor babies that are already here.
>>>
>>
>>All you have to do is read it to see how it reads... Ummmmm. . . 2nd
>>Amendment?
>
> Your point? The second amendment clearly protects an individual right to
> keep and bear arms "the people" having the same meaning in every other
> amendment in which the phrase is used. The court had to rule on it because
> of all the hysterical little girls who are so paralyzed by their fear of
> guns that they are unable to read.
>

The Supremes have not ruled on it. The DC decision was thought as going to
be a ruling. But decision was a narrow ruling on DC only.


Calif Bill

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"HK" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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You seem to be the useless gas bag.


Calif Bill

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"Don White" <whi...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Amazing. Just Amazing. You ever had an original thought?


Calif Bill

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"HK" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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Seems as if that describes you. My former fishing partner was black. From
Harrisburg, PA even. Since he lost a leg to diabetes he does not go out on
the boat anymore. What black friends do you have? Hell, what friends do
you have?


Don White

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"HK" <payer...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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I'm sure the 'locals' would make room...at least temporarily.


Don White

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"Calif Bill" <bmcke...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Hee hee...that's the first comment you guys make......
'I have black friends'...etc


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HK

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And I'm sure one of bilious bill's best friends is...Jewish! :>)


jps

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Sammy Davis!

libsni...@gmail.com

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Apr 17, 2009, 10:34:28 PM4/17/09
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On Apr 15, 12:36�pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://www.newnation.org/�New Nation News
>
> http://www.wvwnews.net/�Western Voices World News
>
> http://www.amren.com/� American Renaissance
>
> http://www.vdare.com/�V-Dare
>
> http://www.halturnershow.com/�Hal Turner Show
>
> Biggest threat facing America is the impact of illegal
> immigration. Over 2,000 Americans killed yearly by
> illegal aliens. Population explosion due to high mestizo*
> birth rate. All leading to total cultural distortion.
>
> ted
>
> *Mestizo: A spanish speaking third-worlder whose DNA is appx.
> 80% central American indian, 15% negro from freed slaves who
> bred with indians, 5% european. Group IQ 87. Illegal alien cost yearly
> to taxpayers 383 billion dollars.

Here are some anti-white hate sites:

michaelmoore.com
huffingtonpost.com
dailykos.com
msnbc.com
cnn.com
http://tinyurl.com/mvm420

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

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On Apr 15, 12:36 pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://www.newnation.org/ New Nation News
>
> http://www.wvwnews.net/ Western Voices World News
>
> http://www.amren.com/  American Renaissance
>
> http://www.vdare.com/ V-Dare
>
> http://www.halturnershow.com/ Hal Turner Show
>
> Biggest threat facing America is the impact of illegal
> immigration. Over 2,000 Americans killed yearly by
> illegal aliens. Population explosion due to high mestizo*
> birth rate. All leading to total cultural distortion.
>
> ted
>
> *Mestizo: A spanish speaking third-worlder whose DNA is appx.
> 80% central American indian, 15% negro from freed slaves who
> bred with indians, 5% european. Group IQ 87. Illegal alien cost yearly
> to taxpayers 383 billion dollars.


Look on the bright side. Caucasians will soon be a minority in this
country.

Don White

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Apr 17, 2009, 10:38:28 PM4/17/09
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"Spender" <Spe...@Mars.org> wrote in message
news:gdaiu4dj3ttbnrsu8...@news.easynews.com...
> On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:16:54 -0700, "Calif Bill"

> <bmcke...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>"Spender" <Spe...@Mars.org> wrote in message
>>news:i6uhu49b6h9vhkf8b...@news.easynews.com...

>>>
>>> Your point? The second amendment clearly protects an individual right to
>>> keep and bear arms "the people" having the same meaning in every other
>>> amendment in which the phrase is used. The court had to rule on it
>>> because
>>> of all the hysterical little girls who are so paralyzed by their fear of
>>> guns that they are unable to read.
>>
>>The Supremes have not ruled on it. The DC decision was thought as going
>>to
>>be a ruling. But decision was a narrow ruling on DC only.
>
> No, it wasn't. It was a ruling on the constitution - that applies to the
> whole of the U.S. Did you sleep through 8th grade social studies?
>

~~ Snerk ~~ That's our Kalif Swill.
Since it's the start of the weekend, I guess we can excuse him.


PatTX

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Apr 17, 2009, 10:45:34 PM4/17/09
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libsni...@gmail.com wrote:
: :
:
: Here are some anti-white hate sites:


Wow! I guess you think that reality is "anti-white." Or else you think that
only Republicans are white....go figure!


jps

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Apr 17, 2009, 10:52:48 PM4/17/09
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On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:34:28 -0700 (PDT), libsni...@gmail.com
wrote:

>On Apr 15, 12:36?pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> http://www.newnation.org/?New Nation News
>>
>> http://www.wvwnews.net/?Western Voices World News
>>
>> http://www.amren.com/? American Renaissance
>>
>> http://www.vdare.com/?V-Dare
>>
>> http://www.halturnershow.com/?Hal Turner Show


>>
>> Biggest threat facing America is the impact of illegal
>> immigration. Over 2,000 Americans killed yearly by
>> illegal aliens. Population explosion due to high mestizo*
>> birth rate. All leading to total cultural distortion.
>>
>> ted
>>
>> *Mestizo: A spanish speaking third-worlder whose DNA is appx.
>> 80% central American indian, 15% negro from freed slaves who
>> bred with indians, 5% european. Group IQ 87. Illegal alien cost yearly
>> to taxpayers 383 billion dollars.
>
>
>
>Here are some anti-white hate sites:
>
>michaelmoore.com
>huffingtonpost.com
>dailykos.com
>msnbc.com
>cnn.com
>http://tinyurl.com/mvm420

Look out, the black choppers are overhead watching.

Stanley Moore

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Apr 17, 2009, 11:42:23 PM4/17/09
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"Calif Bill" <bmcke...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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According to the 14th they have to be born here AND under the jurisdiction
which disqualifies your diplomat assassin. Take care

Calif Bill

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"jps" <tr...@thedump.com> wrote in message
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Actually married to a Catholic in the church by a Monsignor, with a JW best
man and a Jewish groomsman. Jewish sister in law. I grew up without racial
prejudices. Best friend in grammar school was 2nd generation Chinese, and
my RN mom's LVN and best friend until she died was black. Went to a mixed
race school and had a black student body president on term. It seems as if
the extreme left wingers on the board are the bigots. Both you and Harry
being prime examples. Don is just stupid. I did not run into prejudice
until I went to Ohio in Jan. 1964. First place I saw a whites only sign was
Joplin, Missouri. Not even the deep south. A distance relative was an anti
slave attorney who signed the Declaration of Independence. Why are you and
Harry so bigoted?


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