Ed Dolan and liberalism

[Edward Dolan]

It is a never ending mystery to me why I poke about liberalism like a cat
with a mouse. I want it to work but it seems like it never does.

I want a single payer health care system just like England has. But that is
almost as far as it goes with me. I consider health care a right, not
something you have to pay for in order to get it. It falls into the same
category as K-12 education. It is NOT socialism any more than public
education is.

I think it is perfectly acceptable that the rich finance this, just as
property owners finance public education. After all, they would not be rich
if situated in a society like Afghanistan.

I sometimes wonder how far apart Tom Sherman and I are on the fundamentals.
I have spent my life thinking on these things and in the end the welfare
state makes the most sense to me provided society is rich enough to make it
possible. But still we NEED the capitalist goose to lay the golden eggs. I
wonder why Tom Sherman can't see it like I do?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

[Edward Dolan]

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>> It is a never ending mystery to me why I poke about liberalism like a cat
>> with a mouse. I want it to work but it seems like it never does.
>>
>> I want a single payer health care system just like England has. But that
>> is almost as far as it goes with me. I consider health care a right, not
>> something you have to pay for in order to get it. It falls into the same
>> category as K-12 education. It is NOT socialism any more than public
>> education is.
>>
>> I think it is perfectly acceptable that the rich finance this, just as
>> property owners finance public education. After all, they would not be
>> rich if situated in a society like Afghanistan.
>>
>> I sometimes wonder how far apart Tom Sherman and I are on the
>> fundamentals. I have spent my life thinking on these things and in the
>> end the welfare state makes the most sense to me provided society is rich
>> enough to make it possible. But still we NEED the capitalist goose to lay
>> the golden eggs. I wonder why Tom Sherman can't see it like I do?
>>

> Universal health care doesn't equal the welfare state and is certainly
> compatible with capitalism. I don't think everybody has a "right" to
> health care, I think it's a practical necessity and our responsibility to
> reform the current system.

The cost of providing education to everyone is simply enormous and so would
the cost of providing health care to everyone. We are talking about a huge
chunk of the economy. It is indeed the welfare state for government to
provide these two basic services. The best way to justify it is simply to
make it a right by virtue of citizenship.