Ed Dolan the Great and Libertarians
Edward Dolan
libertarians even more. I think liberals, however mistaken, think they are
on the side of the angels, but libertarians are clearly on the side of the
Devil.
It is a given that not everyone is going to be able to make it on their own.
Not everyone is born equal. It is the burden of those who are blessed with
endowments from birth to contribute to the less fortunate. Society is
composed of many and disparate elements, and who is to say which matters the
most in the end. Some know how to work hard and make money. So what? They do
not cease to be part of society with all that that entails. The main thing
it entails is looking after those who can't look after themselves.
Libertarians have always struck me as selfish to the core. They are
basically inhuman monsters. Liberals are just wrongheaded, but libertarians
are evil. I wish for them a special place in Hell.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
Tom Sherman °_°
> It is well known that Ed Dolan the Great hates liberals, but he hates
> libertarians even more. I think liberals, however mistaken, think they are
> on the side of the angels, but libertarians are clearly on the side of the
> Devil.
>
by voting Democratic.
> It is a given that not everyone is going to be able to make it on their own.
> Not everyone is born equal. It is the burden of those who are blessed with
> endowments from birth to contribute to the less fortunate.
Oh Ed, you are turning soft in your old age with your socialist sentiments!
> Society is
> composed of many and disparate elements, and who is to say which matters the
> most in the end. Some know how to work hard and make money. So what? They do
> not cease to be part of society with all that that entails. The main thing
> it entails is looking after those who can't look after themselves.
>
No Ed, societies are generally organized to protect the rich from the
masses of "worthless eaters". Socialism for the rich, "social Darwinism"
for the working classes is the norm. And the mentally ill and others
less capable can please get off the road and die in the ditch.
> Libertarians have always struck me as selfish to the core. They are
> basically inhuman monsters. Liberals are just wrongheaded, but libertarians
> are evil. I wish for them a special place in Hell.
>
Hell, Michigan?
--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
"Every American government since Reagan has essentially been
consumed with the task of denuding the middle and working
classes of their paltry share of the national pie, in order to
deliver those dollars into the hands of wealthy political
benefactors." - David Michael Green
Edward Dolan
"Tom Sherman �_�" <twsherm...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
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> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> It is well known that Ed Dolan the Great hates liberals, but he hates
>> libertarians even more. I think liberals, however mistaken, think they
>> are on the side of the angels, but libertarians are clearly on the side
>> of the Devil.
>>
> Liberals are mistaken in that they think they can make the system work by
> voting Democratic.
Tired of Obama already?
>> It is a given that not everyone is going to be able to make it on their
>> own. Not everyone is born equal. It is the burden of those who are
>> blessed with endowments from birth to contribute to the less fortunate.
>
> Oh Ed, you are turning soft in your old age with your socialist
> sentiments!
I have always been in favor of safety nets. One never knows when one might
need it. Even Mozart died a pauper.
>> Society is composed of many and disparate elements, and who is to say
>> which matters the most in the end. Some know how to work hard and make
>> money. So what? They do not cease to be part of society with all that
>> that entails. The main thing it entails is looking after those who can't
>> look after themselves.
>>
> No Ed, societies are generally organized to protect the rich from the
> masses of "worthless eaters". Socialism for the rich, "social Darwinism"
> for the working classes is the norm. And the mentally ill and others less
> capable can please get off the road and die in the ditch.
Various socialisms do not work any better than republican democracies and in
fact work much worse. The recent history of the greatest socialist state in
the history of mankind on this earth proves that (Soviet Russia). The
European welfare states are not much different than we are although they do
provide a somewhat better safety net.
Out two party system is not bad but it could be better. I think the nation
is big enough now to support a third party, one more populist let us say.
Not even the rich want to live in a totally ruthless type of society. The
masses of the working poor always have numbers on their side, which is a
fearsome thing for the few rich. This is why in the end democracies are for
the best, especially when compared with all those other systems of
governance out there in the real world. Unfortunately, quite often
democracies do not work at all well until a social situation approaches a
crisis. Then the will of the masses is unstoppable.
We are almost there on the reform of our health care, but maybe not quite.
It amazes me ... the number of folks who seem to be satisfied with the way
things presently are and do not want any change. Things might have to get a
lot worse before they can get better.
Edward Dolan
"Tom Sherman �_�" <twsherm...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
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> No Ed, societies are generally organized to protect the rich from the
> masses of "worthless eaters". Socialism for the rich, "social Darwinism"
> for the working classes is the norm. And the mentally ill and others less
> capable can please get off the road and die in the ditch.
It can surely seem like the above from time to time, but in the end it does
not really work out that way. The masses can only stand so much insult and
then they rebel. In a democracy based on republican principles (election by
popular vote where the politician represents us and speaks for us), society
will regularly renew itself to some extent. Such pessimism as you express
above has never been born out in American history, at least not over the
long haul.
On the other hand, democracy and elections are a fraud in most third world
countries. Without an educated citizenry and certain free social
institutions, nothing is possible except the world's oldest and most eternal
form of governance, that of oriental despotism. Iraq under Hussein is the
norm in most of the world. I despair of Afghanistan ever being anything but
a country of warlords and anarchy.
We Americans do not know how lucky we are to be living in a more or less
civilized society. It matters not whether you are rich or poor, we all
benefit enormously from civilization. The problem with the Muslims is that
they are living in the Middle ages and know not the benefits of
civilization. It is the age old problem of the Roman Empire versus the
barbarians.
Tom Sherman °_°
> "Tom Sherman �_�" <twsherm...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
> news:hg15fs$24v$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> It is well known that Ed Dolan the Great hates liberals, but he hates
>>> libertarians even more. I think liberals, however mistaken, think they
>>> are on the side of the angels, but libertarians are clearly on the side
>>> of the Devil.
>>>
>> Liberals are mistaken in that they think they can make the system work by
>> voting Democratic.
>
Having betrayed practically everyone who voted for him by promoting
Welfare for Wall Street and continuing a "kinder, gentler" version of
neo-con policies, the only remotely honorable thing left that Obama
could do is resign.
Edward Dolan
"Tom Sherman �_�" <twsherm...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "Tom Sherman �_�" <twsherm...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
>> news:hg15fs$24v$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>> It is well known that Ed Dolan the Great hates liberals, but he hates
>>>> libertarians even more. I think liberals, however mistaken, think they
>>>> are on the side of the angels, but libertarians are clearly on the side
>>>> of the Devil.
>>>>
>>> Liberals are mistaken in that they think they can make the system work
>>> by voting Democratic.
>>
>> Tired of Obama already?[...]
>
> Having betrayed practically everyone who voted for him by promoting
> Welfare for Wall Street and continuing a "kinder, gentler" version of
> neo-con policies, the only remotely honorable thing left that Obama could
> do is resign.
Alas, running for office and conducting the office are two entirely
different things. But it doesn't matter what Obama does or doesn't do. He is
going to end up another Carter or even worse. Being President of the United
States is no job for a man-child.