Life is like a bicycle
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
since I've decided that I must get to the snake by the head. Anyway,
you may know someone whose life is on automatic pilot, so this may of
interest to you)
"Life is like a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving." -
Albert Einstein
Words to live by, huh? But it also explains many things: Why the
Christians are so happy driving SUVs on "automatic pilot." It also
explains why we live in such idiocy today. We can't ride a bike in
peace anywhere.
And that throws the whole world out of balance: no creative thinking
allowed, no evolution (dangerous word!) toward smarter ways to do
things. In the Christian world everything remains static waiting for
Jesus...
This satirical animated film pictures the way things will be in the
future --if we ever have a future...
(after trashing the earth people travel in a spaceship where the
automatic pilot has taken over their stupid, lazy lives)
"There are a number of important messages contained in WALL-E, but
fundamentally it's a touching sci-fi love story. Yes, you can take
from it the lesson of protecting our environment. And it's definitely
a cautionary tale about our reliance on technology to do everyday
tasks for us."
http://movies.about.com/od/walle/fr/walle062608.htm
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"I thought about it while riding a bike." -Einstein (referring to the
Theory of Relativity)
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> "His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of QuixoticEnterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fc3bf198-6b25-4875...@u20g2000vbq.googlegroups.com...
>
> > "Life is like a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving." -
> > Albert Einstein
>
> > Words to live by, huh? But it also explains many things: Why the
> > Christians are so happy driving SUVs on "automatic pilot." It also
> > explains why we live in such idiocy today. We can't ride a bike in
> > peace anywhere.
>
>
> Bicycle and rider = 300 lb. maximum
>
> Car and driver = 3,600 lb minimum
>
> Max bicycle speed = about 40 mph
>
> Max bicycle Kinetic Energy = 16,000 foot pounds
>
> speed of car needed to match max bicycle energy = 11 mph
>
> Average Bicycle energy, (180 lb and 15 mph) = 1,350 foot pounds
>
> Average Car Energy (3,600 and 40 mph) = 192,500 foot pounds
>
> Bicycle energy/car energy (average) = 1,350/192,500 = 0.7%
>
> Or car has 142 times as much energy
>
> 1 car can take out 142 bicycles at once !
>
> Laws of Physics govern, not laws of man
>
> http://www.1728.com/energy.htm
The Laws of Physics get compounded by the Law of the Jungle to produce
a terrifying effect.
But we can clearly separate the Big Fish from the Little FIsh by
forcing the car to pass the bike on another lane, several feet away.
And then enforce the anti-predatory laws, of course.
We can't keep living in a cage for fear of the machine, right? Or has
the automatic pilot already taken over?
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> On Dec 6, 11:51 am, "His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes
> I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:> "Life is like a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving." -
> > Albert Einstein
>
> very ignorant saying that of course is not true at all. Don't care who
> said it! People make dummies of themselves all the time.
Probably because you don't believe in evolution. Keep changing, adapt
to new environments... or perish!
Anyone but a Christian knows that, I doubt that many even believe in
Climate Change, or if they do, they don't think it's caused by humans.
>
> > Words to live by, huh? But it also explains many things: Why the
> > Christians are so happy driving SUVs on "automatic pilot." It also
> > explains why we live in such idiocy today. We can't ride a bike in
> > peace anywhere.
>
> this insanity tells us your IQ is so low that you hate without
> thinking. SUV's are driven by HUMANS you idiot not theists.
> Don't you shame to say such stupid things?
C'mon, America is a Christian society, the one blessed by God and
abundance...
What do the few black sheep among us have to to do with such
predation?
If an Atheist does it though he would clearly marked as TOP PREDATOR,
not any different than a Christian predator.
>
> > And that throws the whole world out of balance: no creative thinking
> > allowed, no evolution (dangerous word!) toward smarter ways to do
> > things. In the Christian world everything remains static waiting for
> > Jesus...
>
> Absolute insane lies, what drugs are you on fool? NOTHING you say has
> any truth to it! None of it! YOU are a walking lie!
You are waiting for Jesus, ain't you? Tell me how many Christians go
to church by bike, or where is the issue of bicycling on your agenda?
And what's your agenda anyway? Abortion, prohibition of drugs,
euthanasia, abortion, gay marriage, THE WAR...
C'mon there's snake and there's a head to the snake, which is the Holy
Trinity: RELIGION, GOVERNMENT AND CORPORATIONS.
Or do you think religion is spontaneous in any signiificant way?
>
> > This satirical animated film pictures the way things will be in the
> > future --if we ever have a future...
>
> > (after trashing the earth people travel in a spaceship where the
> > automatic pilot has taken over their stupid, lazy lives)
>
> > "There are a number of important messages contained in WALL-E, but
> > fundamentally it's a touching sci-fi love story. Yes, you can take
> > from it the lesson of protecting our environment. And it's definitely
> > a cautionary tale about our reliance on technology to do everyday
> > tasks for us."
>
> Hey fool, was it theist that destroyed the planet in that movie? NO it
> was the fucking merchants and politicians just as we theist told you
> all along...so dummy shut up and go back to your biking in traffic and
> complaining that all SUV are theist kind of insantiy.
You vote for the politicians whose agenda fit your moralizing view of
the world.
But, of course, bikes fall under your radar, since there's no
immorality to terrorizing cyclists.
>
> you are too stupid to be theist or atheist! Go ride your bike in
> traffic.
Maybe I will, maybe I won't. Certainly facing the predator alone is a
great risk.
Edward Dolan
"His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
news:14d5f351-b712-425b...@x16g2000vbk.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> And what's your agenda anyway? Abortion, prohibition of drugs,
> euthanasia, abortion, gay marriage, THE WAR...
My agenda is to make war, not love. I especially want to flatten Iran. A few
well placed atom bombs will take out their nuclear facilities. After I have
bombed Iran into oblivion, I would also like to drop an atom bomb on Tom
Sherman's head. He lives near Milwaukee, so many hundreds of thousands of
Americans would also perish, but it would be worth it to get rid of the most
notorious liberal ever to infest Usenet.
[...]
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
semi-ambivalent
Careful, your age is showing.
sa
His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> only an idiot thinks he is equal to car traffic... that is why they
> make bike paths! Bikes are NOT welcome on car paths!
> it is the idiot in this guy that thinks he has rights to use roads
> when bikes are made not be on roads...roads are for cars! stay the
> fuck off the roads and you not be the idiot paying in traffic the
> world say to go do when they are mad at someone.
> SUV is made for the road you dummy Bike is made for paths and trails
> and dedicated roads...YOu are the one infringing on them till you make
> them build for you like some cities have...till then dummy, why would
> we have pity for you that are nothing but a danger to others by you
> being there? Get off the fucking roads you dummy or make it so no cars
> be on them. Go live where you can bike! don't complain you are making
> life hard for others because you steal the room they need to function
> in! GET A LIFE and stop trying to share the life of others!
I'm assuming you are a Christian to think like that. No one but a well
trained sheep would deny room to those who really want to do something
about Climate Change. Or how do you want us to chip in?
See here how the Sneaky Snake wants to present those who believe in
Climate Change as freak religious madmen, and make fun of them...
SNEAKY QUESTION:
"Should members of the Religion of Climate Change, be forced to buy
blankets & provide heat to keep us warm?"
STRAIGHT ANSWER:
"It's funny that even Christians know that religion is irrational
hence you using it to try to describe what you think is 'irrational'.
At least you can admit having imaginary friends as an adult is a sign
of mental weakness and illness."
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091205020958AAVMa2g
***
So, I'm asking you, HOW do you want US to ship in if I don't believe
in buying blankets and I want to ride a bike? I know YOU don't care,
but where's my right to do something?
Tom Keats
"Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> writes:
>
> "His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
> Enterprises" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:14d5f351-b712-425b...@x16g2000vbk.googlegroups.com...
> [...]
>> And what's your agenda anyway? Abortion, prohibition of drugs,
>> euthanasia, abortion, gay marriage, THE WAR...
>
> My agenda is to make war, not love.
My agenda is to make tea.
> I especially want to flatten Iran.
I want to destroy time, like in that
Alice Cooper song about clones.
When you flatten other people, you just
end up flattening yourself. Ya can't win.
It's better to cooperate than to compete.
cheeky grin,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
It's only when you are old and don't have a practical weapon that you
turn to the destructive power of the atomic weapons. I say MAKE LOVE
NOT WAR...
THE BANANA IS THE BEST WEAPON EVER DEVISED, CLEARLY SUPERIOR TO
NUCLEAR WEAPONS! If you don't believe me, I challenge anyone with a
nuclear weapon to step forward. ;)
C'mon Big Ed, you may get a few followers among the ladies.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> > Torque is cheap.
>
> And jewels are not?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joule
> Torque and energy are fundamentally different physical quantities. For
> example, adding 1 N·m of torque to 1 N·m of energy gives a dimensionally
> consistent result of 2 N·m, but this quantity is physically meaningless.
Bicycles are cheap and SUVs are not, thus anything cheap and simple is
dismissed in consumer society.
And consumption is what feeds the Sneaky Snake...
Here's the definition of what it means in case anyone ignores it:
"consumer society... A term sometimes applied to modern Western
societies, which suggests that they are increasingly organized around
consumption (of goods and leisure), rather than the production of
materials and services. The usual list of late twentieth-century
sociological suspects have been implicated in this development:
increasing affluence, embourgeoisement, the emergence of a mass
popular culture, growing privatism, demise of social class, appearance
of consumption sectors and cleavages, growing individualism, and so
forth. As will be clear from a reading of those entries in this
dictionary to which the reader has just been referred, most of these
trends are highly questionable, and it is in any case not clear
whether, were they to be realized, the new consumer society would
display those features of egalitarianism that some of its proponents
have envisaged. Consumerism may simply underline the distinction
between rich and poor—as, for example, in the phenomenon of
conspicuous consumption."
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> In article <-_WdneFjzrmxlIHWnZ2dnUVZ_uWdn...@prairiewave.com>,
> "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> writes:
>
>
>
> > "His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
> >news:14d5f351-b712-425b...@x16g2000vbk.googlegroups.com...
> > [...]
> >> And what's your agenda anyway? Abortion, prohibition of drugs,
> >> euthanasia, abortion, gay marriage, THE WAR...
>
> > My agenda is to make war, not love.
>
> My agenda is to make tea.
>
> > I especially want to flatten Iran.
>
> I want to destroy time, like in that
> Alice Cooper song about clones.
>
> When you flatten other people, you just
> end up flattening yourself. Ya can't win.
>
> It's better to cooperate than to compete.
I thought you'd never say something smart...
Anyway I wouldn't tell the general area where you live since he would
also support carpet bombing.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
not unlike the Snake of Paradise, but this Sneaky Snake is far more
sneaky and still is tempting us with the Forbidden Fruit and other
material goods we can't possibly have. Corporations, governments and
religion form its head, and the Christians are feeding it, which is
the whole purpose for this snake to exist. But the monkey is watching
the whole game from high in the tree branches, and it's protesting
that the predation of the snake is making the jungle disappear. So the
monkey says:
Bicycles are cheap and SUVs are not, thus anything cheap and simple is
dismissed in consumer society.
And consumption is what feeds the Sneaky Snake...
Here's the definition of what it means in case anyone ignores it:
"consumer society... A term sometimes applied to modern Western
societies, which suggests that they are increasingly organized around
consumption (of goods and leisure), rather than the production of
materials and services. The usual list of late twentieth-century
sociological suspects have been implicated in this development:
increasing affluence, embourgeoisement, the emergence of a mass
popular culture, growing privatism, demise of social class, appearance
of consumption sectors and cleavages, growing individualism, and so
forth. As will be clear from a reading of those entries in this
dictionary to which the reader has just been referred, most of these
trends are highly questionable, and it is in any case not clear
whether, were they to be realized, the new consumer society would
display those features of egalitarianism that some of its proponents
have envisaged. Consumerism may simply underline the distinction
between rich and poor—as, for example, in the phenomenon of
conspicuous consumption."
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O88-consumersociety.html
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"When you face the Sneaky Snake, turn around and walk away from it,
but you may want to make noise so others benefit from it. Of course,
'making noise' is a powerful weapon used by the monkeys."
Edward Dolan
"His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
[...]
> Anyway I wouldn't tell the general area where you live since he would
also support carpet bombing.
Nope, I only want to flatten Iran and drop an atom bomb on Tom Sherman's
head. No one cares about Tom Keats in soggy old Vancouver.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:00 AM, His Highness Comandante Banana, King
> Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> > This is a new character I'm developing to inhabit my jungle... It's
> > not unlike the Snake of Paradise, but this Sneaky Snake is far more
> > sneaky and still is tempting us with the Forbidden Fruit and other
> > material goods we can't possibly have. Corporations, governments and
> > religion form its head, and the Christians are feeding it, which is
> > the whole purpose for this snake to exist.
>
> Perhaps instead tell the truth: the monkey's feeding a character of
> his own creation and blaming someone else ...
>
Christians believe that this world is being run by the Devil...
So WHO OR WHAT is evil? Doesn't CONSPICUOUS CONSUMPTION in the face of
environmental destruction, hunger and injustice qualify for evil?
Isn't Christmas shopping and SUVs a slap in the face of Jesus?
You must be either very stupid or very sneaky not to get it.
Ron Wallenfang
I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" > So WHO OR WHAT is evil? Doesn't
CONSPICUOUS CONSUMPTION in the face of
> environmental destruction, hunger and injustice qualify for evil?
> Isn't Christmas shopping and SUVs a slap in the face of Jesus?
>
> You must be either very stupid or very sneaky not to get it.
So join the Catholic church, and become a monk, taking a vow of
poverty - no conspicuous consumption, no environmental destruction, no
hunger, no SUV's, no money for Christmas shopping, and not much
injustice, though even monasteries are run by human beings with human
weaknesses.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
I think rather that Christians should stop following someone who lived
in rags like Jesus and say, for example, that they follow Donald Trump.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> Define your terms, please.
>
> What, precisely, in your allegory, is the significance of
>
> 1. Jungle
The terrifying place where the law is Big Fish eats Little Fish.
Common place to those who put themselves in the place of the little
fish, for example cyclists.
But it's also the very real jungle that we must save from human
predation. Hey, there's even an erotic connotation of it (complement
of the banana), but I let you guess it.
> 2. Sneaky Snake
Who's lying to us? Church, Governments, Corporations... They all have
a stake in controlling the SHEEP in this Darwinistic capitalism,
right?
> 3. Monkey
What's the animal the elites associate with? The lion, right? But not
just the real lion that eats when hungry, but a HUNGRY LION that eats
without limits. And who are the rest of us but the MUNDANE MONKEYS?
Monkeys are also in contact with EVOLUTION, and value their brain over
all things that they read. "SURVIVAL OF THE SMARTEST," they say, and
want to see a smarter world be a realtiy now. The SHEEP by contrast,
follow the lions and wait for the invisible one (Jesus) to save them
while recklessly trashing the planet and going into wars.
>
> ?
>
> I will assume "Christian" is meant to be a direct departure from
> allegorical to literal, but to make sense of this I need to know the
> literal significance of those other terms. Thanks in advance!
The Bible is full of parables, "I speak is parables" said Jesus, and I
do too.
I do not claim superpowers though. Just the powers and spirituality of
the jungle as well as the experience of 4 billion years of evolution.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> "His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of QuixoticEnterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:084310a8-f578-4570...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >Bicycles are cheap and SUVs are not, thus anything cheap and simple is
> >dismissed in consumer society.
>
GLOBALIZATION IS A FEVER THAT STARTED IN AMERICA, then it spread to
China, India and other places, and unless they have a strong identity
(such as Holland, Germany or Scandinavia) things go predatory real
fast. All of the sudden all the symptoms of the fever show up: SUVs,
Gated Communities, Malls, Junk Food, Obesity and Mickey Mouse...
To avoid the disease, RIDE A BIKE --if you dare. ;)
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> O.K. essentially you are a SubGenius. "Sneaky Snake" is your word for
> the Conspiracy, and "monkey" is your word for SubGenii. "The Jungle"
> is the world of Pinks.
Vested interests is a better word than conspiracy. All of the above --
church, governments and corporations-- have a vested interest in
keeping the IDIOCRACY alive. That's the name of a movie, which I
recommend. Fox refused to carry it, of course. Do I need to say the
Media has also a vested interest in the status quo? Well, they are
CORPORATIONS.
>
> You are not talking, in me, to anyone who favors the Con. I am a new
> breed, I guess. You'll have to invent a new animal. Let's call it a
> "human."
>
Good, you are past the HOMO HABILIES who lived in fear of superior
forces, aka God. Then you are a human who can be further classified as
either COOPERATING AND NON COOPERATING or HOMO SAPIENS SAPIENS AND
HOMO SAPIENS IGNORAMUS.
The next step in evolution is READY FOR THE SAPIENS SAPIENS BUT THE
HABILIS AND THE IGNORAMUS DON'T LET THEM!
> A human is like a monkey, but more evolved. A human is able to
> establish Peace outside the reach of the Sneaky Snake, and to help
> other monkeys to evolve past its reach as well. The humans have an
> oasis in the jungle, where there is running water and central AC.
> They are able to take advantage of the massive amount of labor
> accomplished by the Sneaky Snake but don't buy his ideology, having
> their own, which is based on the Will of the One You Don't Know About.
It sounds like the "massive amout of labor" is often cheap labor from
China and the Third World. That's part of the problem. HOMO IGNORAMUS
ignores that things are all connected and that INJUSTICE comes around
to hunt them.
Anyway, the jungle is not the perfect place to live for fully evolved
monkeys (aka humans), but humans must understand it's not a place to
be chopped down either, as that tips the BALANCE OF NATURE against the
stupid monkeys.
Otherwise, we must learn from Adam and Eve and resist the temptation
of the SNEAKY SNAKE. ;)
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> > Civil implies civilized and you still acting like monkeys in many
> > areas.
>
> Bottom line: coming here with blanket insults to all Christians
> doesn't accomplish anything towards a Civil Religious Debate.
>
> If you want to make definite, supportable statements about specific
> behaviors you think you see in all Christians, you should present them
> clearly and with support. Cheap shots aren't really gonna cut it.
What do you want, specifics? Get on a bike in America and see what
kind of respect you get.
Why do I blame the Christians? Because they dominate politics and make
ABORTION OR GAYS an issue, while IGNORING CLIMATE CHANGE. And that
takes RIDING A BIKE...
Likewise, under the Taliban regime I blame the excesses committed on
them.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> > "Money is a major source of evil, but Christians love it like they
> > love Jesus."
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote
>
> Christians don't actually follow rag guy. They follow popes and preachers
> who never touch rags because they have people to do that for them.
> Initially they abandoned rag guy and followed Paul. Compared to Paul, rag
> guy was way too kind and forgiving. He hung around with the wrong crowd -
> the poor and the sinners. Rag guy didn't even collect money from his
> followers. Paul realized that cash was needed to expand the church's power
> to get more and more cash and more and more power. His tradition continues
> to this day. Paul would be proud.-
Maybe that's why they love the crucified image of the rag guy. It
means they would do it all over again if such creature were to come
back. It's a just a warning...
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
to the other species --the little mammals... Does the subjugated
species have the option to rebel in the name of SURVIVAL?
This is a question that must be addressed sometime in the near future
as our planet is threatened by mass extinction.
WHEN? The year 2012 sounds good to me... HOW? We all stop working
January 1st of that year until our demands are met. General strike!
The list of demands is coming soon, and you may add your own.
(Yes, bikes are in there!)
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"Our first martyr may have been a proto-mammal that looked like a
mouse. Have you noticed how smart mice are?"
Edward Dolan
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[...]
> Funny thing is... if he comes back and he's a Jew again, they'll
> disregard and/or discount him in a big way. Many of the strongest
> current believers will outright hate him.
I am not aware that Christians harbor any prejudice against Jews. You have
Christians confused with Muslims.
> It's an odd religion.
All religions are odd, including your liberal secularism, perhaps the oddest
of all beliefs.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> "* Still Just Me *" <noEmailto...@stillnodomainey.com> wrote in messagenews:m9lth5lnpuek1uutp...@4ax.com...
> [...]
>
> > Funny thing is... if he comes back and he's a Jew again, they'll
> > disregard and/or discount him in a big way. Many of the strongest
> > current believers will outright hate him.
>
> I am not aware that Christians harbor any prejudice against Jews. You have
> Christians confused with Muslims.
All religions divide people. The Hindus and Pakistanis are ready to
wipe out each other over imaginary gods, even when they are the same
people.
>
> > It's an odd religion.
>
> All religions are odd, including your liberal secularism, perhaps the oddest
> of all beliefs.
The oddest religion is the one that does the opposite of what it
preaches.
Edward Dolan
"His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
On Dec 8, 8:48 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "* Still Just Me *" <noEmailto...@stillnodomainey.com> wrote in
> messagenews:m9lth5lnpuek1uutp...@4ax.com...
> [...]
>
> > Funny thing is... if he comes back and he's a Jew again, they'll
> > disregard and/or discount him in a big way. Many of the strongest
> > current believers will outright hate him.
>
> I am not aware that Christians harbor any prejudice against Jews. You have
> Christians confused with Muslims.
>>> All religions divide people. The Hindus and Pakistanis are ready to
wipe out each other over imaginary gods, even when they are the same
people.
It is culture that divides people. I have always thought that language
creates the greatest barrier. Religion can quite often be a minor component,
especially in this day and age when no one takes it seriously, except for
the primitive Muslims of course.
By the way, the Hindus and Pakistanis are not the same people. India is a
hodgepodge of different ethnicities. No land on earth has been invaded and
occupied by foreigners more than India.
> > It's an odd religion.
>
> All religions are odd, including your liberal secularism, perhaps the
> oddest
> of all beliefs.
>>> The oddest religion is the one that does the opposite of what it
preaches.
No religion actually does that. Most likely, you do not understand what is
preached.
z
> "* Still Just Me *" <noEmai...@stillnodomainey.com> wrote in message
> news:m9lth5lnpuek1uutp...@4ax.com...
> [...]
>> Funny thing is... if he comes back and he's a Jew again, they'll
>> disregard and/or discount him in a big way. Many of the strongest
>> current believers will outright hate him.
>
> I am not aware that Christians harbor any prejudice against Jews. You have
> Christians confused with Muslims.
Try checking the South. Not Gene's transplanted Northerner Florida, but
the historical one. Where scarcity of Jews exist, Jewish
prejudice/ignorance/stupidity abounds.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> "His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of QuixoticEnterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
I doubt that you hate as much people who eat falafel or ride a camel
as much as the ones who invoke Allah.
That's why FOOD UNITES while RELIGION DEVIDES.
Edward Dolan
"His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> It is culture that divides people. I have always thought that language
> creates the greatest barrier. Religion can quite often be a minor
> component,
> especially in this day and age when no one takes it seriously, except for
> the primitive Muslims of course.
>> I doubt that you hate as much people who eat falafel or ride a camel
as much as the ones who invoke Allah.
>> That's why FOOD UNITES while RELIGION DEVIDES.
You obviously do not understand what is meant by the term "culture". I
suppose you would have to have had a course or two in cultural anthropology
to know what I am talking about.
Edward Dolan
"z" <No...@not.ca> wrote in message news:e_ETm.39996$kY2...@newsfe01.iad...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "* Still Just Me *" <noEmai...@stillnodomainey.com> wrote in message
>> news:m9lth5lnpuek1uutp...@4ax.com...
>> [...]
>>> Funny thing is... if he comes back and he's a Jew again, they'll
>>> disregard and/or discount him in a big way. Many of the strongest
>>> current believers will outright hate him.
He and Him should be capitalized, you confounded ignoramus!
>> I am not aware that Christians harbor any prejudice against Jews. You
>> have Christians confused with Muslims.
>
> Try checking the South. Not Gene's transplanted Northerner Florida, but
> the historical one. Where scarcity of Jews exist, Jewish
> prejudice/ignorance/stupidity abounds.
Jews tend to hang together and think themselves exclusive (God's chosen
people and all that rot you know). But even so, Christians do not persecute
Jews (not since Hitler and Stalin anyway). Only the Muslims (mainly Arabs)
want to murder Jews these days - which they regularly do in Israel.
The Jews constituted a large percentage of the population of central Europe
prior to WWII, especially in Germany and Poland. It was not their scarcity
which made them hated, but rather their abundance.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> "His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of QuixoticEnterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:018c6222-519f-48ed...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 8, 10:05 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]> It is culture that divides people. I have always thought that language
> > creates the greatest barrier. Religion can quite often be a minor
> > component,
> > especially in this day and age when no one takes it seriously, except for
> > the primitive Muslims of course.
>
> [...]
>
> >> I doubt that you hate as much people who eat falafel or ride a camel
>
> as much as the ones who invoke Allah.
>
> >> That's why FOOD UNITES while RELIGION DEVIDES.
>
> You obviously do not understand what is meant by the term "culture". I
> suppose you would have to have had a course or two in cultural anthropology
> to know what I am talking about.
>
Culture is LANGUAGE, RELIGION AND NATIONALISM, but also FOOD, and this
is the part I emphasize with a dish/foodstuff being the symbol of
national identity. For example, Central America takes a Banana
Revolution but France a Baguette Revoltion.
I don't like Chinese that much since they appear unfriendly, but
doesn't mean I don't like their food. Religion and nationalism though
is used by the elites to stir people against each other.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> "z" <N...@not.ca> wrote in messagenews:e_ETm.39996$kY2...@newsfe01.iad...
> > Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> "* Still Just Me *" <noEmailto...@stillnodomainey.com> wrote in message
> >>news:m9lth5lnpuek1uutp...@4ax.com...
> >> [...]
> >>> Funny thing is... if he comes back and he's a Jew again, they'll
> >>> disregard and/or discount him in a big way. Many of the strongest
> >>> current believers will outright hate him.
>
>
> >> have Christians confused with Muslims.
>
> > the historical one. Where scarcity of Jews exist, Jewish
> > prejudice/ignorance/stupidity abounds.
>
> Jews tend to hang together and think themselves exclusive (God's chosen
> people and all that rot you know). But even so, Christians do not persecute
> Jews (not since Hitler and Stalin anyway). Only the Muslims (mainly Arabs)
> want to murder Jews these days - which they regularly do in Israel.
I think they want to killl Jews because they stole their land, and
act as superior to them.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
that NO BICYCLE NO HEAVEN!
EVOLVE OR...
Once upon a time lived a race of dinosaurs whose violence and appetite
alarmed everybody... One day a Little Ant, tired of feeling stepped
upon, and worried about her cooperative enterprise, came up to the
Americanus Raptor --the biggest dinosaur of them all-- and asked: "Why
you eat and eat everything in your path? Why don't you slim down? Why
can't we little animals at least have our own way? You can't deny
evolution, you know." Then the dinosaur, blowing the Little Ant away,
shouted: "Bigger is better, so get lost!"
And it is said that the Little Ant, later, gathered the whole
cooperative and said: "Comrades, our world is being threatened by the
dinosaurs, so..." And at that precise moment the Earth was hit by a
big ball of fire, destroying all but the small animals...
Moral: "It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the
most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." -Charles
Darwin
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
Sports has one about the Dahon Uno... and that's about it. Most
mortals just get to see SUV commercials, and then people wonder why
there are so many of them around...
On Dec 9, 7:40 am, Roaming Rider <interested.reade...@live.se> wrote:
> It is kind of obvious that education of the public is the solution to
> the problem faced here.
>
> SkyEyes, aka Brenda Nelson, claimed to have done stand-up comedy, and
> she planned tentatively to set up a show with Evolutionists and
> Creationists, with the, as I inferred, the Creationists being the
> stooges.
>
> The education I recieved in Sweden was very friendly and good. I guess
> that former and current students, as well as teachers of my
> institution could provide intelligent and fun arguments (they were
> very humourous when I was there). I would definately vote for my
> institution being part, and getting revenue from, of the proposed TV
> and radio shows based on Evolution.
>
> There could be children's education that is humourous and exciting
> having pedagogic teachers. There could be talk shows for adults. There
> could be reality shows. Etc, borrowing proven successful ideas from
> current TV and radio producers.
>
> Change the current media power structure.
>
> Yes, we can! (from Barak Obama campaign)
>
> /RR
The Media is part of the Sneaky Snake in charge of keeping people
tempted with consumerism while keeping them disinformed about science
and the world.
Fixing the whole thing would take a revolution, which, of course, is
coming soon...
http://atom.smasher.org/streetparty/?l1=Coming+Soon%3A&l2=the&l3=Banana+Revolution%21&l4=
'TV and radio should be independent of Big Business and the State.
(This is due to two reasons: culturally, because the ratings make bad
programs become "good"... for business; and, politically, because
whoever has power over the media... will be in power; however, people
should be able to watch anything on video and cable; the BBC offers us
and example of an independent media.)'
Yes, we have to learn from Scandinavia...
Edward Dolan
"His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> You obviously do not understand what is meant by the term "culture". I
> suppose you would have to have had a course or two in cultural
> anthropology
> to know what I am talking about.
>> Culture is LANGUAGE, RELIGION AND NATIONALISM, but also FOOD, and this
is the part I emphasize with a dish/foodstuff being the symbol of
national identity. For example, Central America takes a Banana
Revolution but France a Baguette Revolution.
Food preferences are relatively unimportant when it comes to what makes one
tribe want to kill off another tribe.
>> I don't like Chinese that much since they appear unfriendly, but
doesn't mean I don't like their food. Religion and nationalism though
is used by the elites to stir people against each other.
Why would you think the elites have much to do with it. It is the common
folks who really know how to hate one another. For instance, I hate the
Iranians much more than Obama does. I notice here in my small town that the
elite seem not to have much animosity against all the Latinos that have
flooded in. That is not the case with the working class blokes however. They
resent the hell out of them.
Edward Dolan
"His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> Jews tend to hang together and think themselves exclusive (God's chosen
>> people and all that rot you know). But even so, Christians do not
>> persecute
>> Jews (not since Hitler and Stalin anyway). Only the Muslims (mainly
>> Arabs)
>> want to murder Jews these days - which they regularly do in Israel.
>
>>> I think they want to killl Jews because they stole their land, and
> act as superior to them.
The Israelis occupy Palestine by right of conquest. The Arabs should learn
not to lose their wars. Israel should now boot them all into Jordan, which
is where they belong.
Edward Dolan
"His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
[...]
> 'TV and radio should be independent of Big Business and the State.
> (This is due to two reasons: culturally, because the ratings make bad
> programs become "good"... for business; and, politically, because
> whoever has power over the media... will be in power; however, people
> should be able to watch anything on video and cable; the BBC offers us
> and example of an independent media.)'
Well, yes, the BBC is quite a communications organization, no doubt about
that at all. I watch it every night on PBS. However, it is slanted way to
the left. I much prefer Fox News here in the good old USA. It is only
slightly slanted to the right. Frankly, if I had my way, I would kick all
the liberal commentators off of Fox News since they are universally full of
bullshit.
I no longer want to know all sides of an issue. I only want to know the
conservative side. Yea, America has finally become like Europe that way.
Ideology over all - and death to liberals! God damn their rotten souls to
Hell!
[...]
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> "His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of QuixoticEnterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3bc817c0-8d47-4e20...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 9, 12:35 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > You obviously do not understand what is meant by the term "culture". I
> > suppose you would have to have had a course or two in cultural
> > anthropology
> > to know what I am talking about.
> >> Culture is LANGUAGE, RELIGION AND NATIONALISM, but also FOOD, and this
>
> is the part I emphasize with a dish/foodstuff being the symbol of
> national identity. For example, Central America takes a Banana
> Revolution but France a Baguette Revolution.
>
> Food preferences are relatively unimportant when it comes to what makes one
> tribe want to kill off another tribe.
>
> >> I don't like Chinese that much since they appear unfriendly, but
>
> doesn't mean I don't like their food. Religion and nationalism though
> is used by the elites to stir people against each other.
>
> Why would you think the elites have much to do with it. It is the common
> folks who really know how to hate one another. For instance, I hate the
> Iranians much more than Obama does. I notice here in my small town that the
> elite seem not to have much animosity against all the Latinos that have
> flooded in. That is not the case with the working class blokes however. They
> resent the hell out of them.
Why should the elites hate the Latinos when they use them as maids and
gardeners, and when they move to the suburbs and gated communities to
live undisturbed?
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> "His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of QuixoticEnterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:cd5b3198-4afb-4e3e...@d20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Dec 9, 12:52 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
> >> Jews tend to hang together and think themselves exclusive (God's chosen
> >> people and all that rot you know). But even so, Christians do not
> >> persecute
> >> Jews (not since Hitler and Stalin anyway). Only the Muslims (mainly
> >> Arabs)
> >> want to murder Jews these days - which they regularly do in Israel.
>
> >>> I think they want to killl Jews because they stole their land, and
> > act as superior to them.
>
> The Israelis occupy Palestine by right of conquest. The Arabs should learn
> not to lose their wars. Israel should now boot them all into Jordan, which
> is where they belong.
>
They learned their lesson from the Nazis: Never have the enemy living
in your own house.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
> "His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of QuixoticEnterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b32c8202-06a1-42b9...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> [...]
>
> > 'TV and radio should be independent of Big Business and the State.
> > (This is due to two reasons: culturally, because the ratings make bad
> > programs become "good"... for business; and, politically, because
> > whoever has power over the media... will be in power; however, people
> > should be able to watch anything on video and cable; the BBC offers us
> > and example of an independent media.)'
>
> Well, yes, the BBC is quite a communications organization, no doubt about
> that at all. I watch it every night on PBS. However, it is slanted way to
> the left. I much prefer Fox News here in the good old USA. It is only
> slightly slanted to the right. Frankly, if I had my way, I would kick all
> the liberal commentators off of Fox News since they are universally full of
> bullshit.
>
> I no longer want to know all sides of an issue. I only want to know the
> conservative side. Yea, America has finally become like Europe that way.
> Ideology over all - and death to liberals! God damn their rotten souls to
> Hell!
> [...]
I think you got it all mixed due to all age: Bicycles don't exist for
Conservatives. Not that the Liberals care that much about it either,
but if we make some BIG NOISE we may be heard. To the elites we don't
exist. They are playing their own survival game, and we are playing
ours.
Edward Dolan
"His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Why would you think the elites have much to do with it. It is the common
> folks who really know how to hate one another. For instance, I hate the
> Iranians much more than Obama does. I notice here in my small town that
> the
> flooded in. That is not the case with the working class blokes however.
> They
> resent the hell out of them.
>> Why should the elites hate the Latinos when they use them as maids and
gardeners, and when they move to the suburbs and gated communities to
live undisturbed?
Point well taken! But you and I live in the hurly burly of the real world.
The Latinos impact us in ways they don't impact the elites.
Edward Dolan
"His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> The Israelis occupy Palestine by right of conquest. The Arabs should learn
> not to lose their wars. Israel should now boot them all into Jordan, which
> is where they belong.
>> They learned their lesson from the Nazis: Never have the enemy living
in your own house.
The slaughter of 6 million of your own people ought to indeed have a
permanent impact on your thinking. I admire the hell out of the Israelis.
The god damn Palestinians have all the rest of the Middle East to settle in.
Edward Dolan
"His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Never mind my outbursts. They are all due to Tom Sherman, the most notorious
liberal ever to infest these cycling newsgroups. I am with you totally in
your advocacy of cycling. Keep up the good work!
Edward Dolan
"His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
[...]
> Why should the elites hate the Latinos when they use them as maids and
gardeners, and when they move to the suburbs and gated communities to
live undisturbed?
There is more to it than that. The elites here in Worthington do not employ
Latinos at all (they mostly work at the local meat packing plant) nor do
they live in gated communities. But they have the liberal mind set that it
is fine and dandy to make room for them. It is not at their expense of
course, but at the expense of working class blokes like you and me. Even
though I am a conservative I reserve my ultimate hatred for the elites. They
seem to forget where they came from - the gutter like all of us!
AMuzi
You're a small minded racist turd who apparently doesn't get
out much. But hey keep advertising your ignorance.
--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Tom Sherman °_°
> [...]
> Never mind my outbursts. They are all due to Tom Sherman, the most notorious
But I am not a liberal [1]. Please pay attention.
[1] <http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/liberals_are_useless_20091206/>.
--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
Obama - Yes We Can, but No We Won't!
Edward Dolan
"AMuzi" <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote in message
news:hfs424$ngp$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
> His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
> Enterprises wrote:
>> On Dec 9, 4:36 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>>> Why would you think the elites have much to do with it. It is the common
>>> folks who really know how to hate one another. For instance, I hate the
>>> Iranians much more than Obama does. I notice here in my small town that
>>> the
>>> elite seem not to have much animosity against all the Latinos that have
>>> flooded in. That is not the case with the working class blokes however.
>>> They
>>> resent the hell out of them.
>>
>> Why should the elites hate the Latinos when they use them as maids and
>> gardeners, and when they move to the suburbs and gated communities to
>> live undisturbed?
>
> You're a small minded racist turd who apparently doesn't get out much. But
> hey keep advertising your ignorance.
The only one who doesn't get out much is Andrew Muzi. If he got out more,
like to say Florida where CB resides, he would see that he has got it
exactly right. The elites do indeed hire illegal aliens to do their dirty
work and they do indeed live in gated communities. And they do not give a
damn about poor slobs like CB and Andrew. All they care about is there own
convenience., But maybe that is all Andrew cares about also. However, more
likely, Andrew is just another god damn fucking liberal asshole. The bike
shop world is full of such types.
Tom Sherman °_°
USian liberal. Please pay attention.
Edward Dolan
"Tom Sherman �_�" <twsherm...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
news:hfsckf$rfi$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> [...]
>> Never mind my outbursts. They are all due to Tom Sherman, the most
>> notorious liberal ever to infest these cycling newsgroups.[...]
>
> But I am not a liberal [1]. Please pay attention.
>
> [1] <http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/liberals_are_useless_20091206/>.
I never go to a link unless I am told what to expect. You ought to know that
by now.
In any event, you are worse than the garden variety liberal. You are an
apologist for Palestinian terrorists. It is not possible to go any lower
than that.
Edward Dolan
"Tom Sherman �_�" <twsherm...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
>> own convenience. But maybe that is all Andrew cares about also. However,
>> bike shop world is full of such types.
>>
> Based on his posts, Andy Muzi is a libertarian, and certainly not a USian
> liberal. Please pay attention.
God damn fucking libertarians are even worse than liberals. They seem never
to have a clue about anything. I think they are all masturbators at heart -
only concerned with themselves. Why is Andrew referencing turds? Is that
where his miniscule mind is located?
dgk
wrote:
Terrorists are people who don't have an army to kill for them.
Simon Lewis
> Terrorists are "murdering scum who care not for legal process" AND
Tom Keats
"His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> writes:
> I thought you'd never say something smart...
The sentiment is mutual. And you're still leaving
me hangin'.
> Anyway I wouldn't tell the general area where you live since he would
> also support carpet bombing.
By whom do you mean with your "he?"
Have you figured out what a bicycle is yet?
I'd expect not. oh well.
I wish blessings upon you that you wouldn't expect.
May Allah bless you with many (/very/ many) sons.
If ya wanna bomb my carpet, please do.
I'll leave it out in the back yard for ya.
And if ya jam out of bombing it, I'll accidentally
tip a barbecue onto it, and burn it down to the
ground myself. How d'ya like them apples?
More to the point -- who needs you?
Even more to the point, and as we colloquially say
in these parts: just **** the hell off, and go
**** yerself.
Maybe grow a human brain and an human heart in the
process. But I'm not so hopeful.
All you ever talk about is how "impossible" it is to
ride bicycles safely.
That's a total crock of shit, and you know it.
But you still endeavour to scare people off their bikes.
That is an evil and wicked goal.
Screw you and the horse you rode into town on.
Your ANTI-bicycling propaganda cannot withstand
the light of truth.
-- Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
Edward Dolan
"Tom Keats" <tkeat...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:o5o1gh...@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article
> <01e74083-92f6-4347...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> "His Highness Comandante Banana, King Of The Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
> Enterprises" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> I thought you'd never say something smart...
>
> The sentiment is mutual. And you're still leaving
> me hangin'.
>
>> Anyway I wouldn't tell the general area where you live since he would
>> also support carpet bombing.
>
> By whom do you mean with your "he?"
If you would keep up to speed on what is happening on these cycling
newsgroups, you would know that CB meant me, Ed Dolan the Great.
> Have you figured out what a bicycle is yet?
> I'd expect not. oh well.
>
> I wish blessings upon you that you wouldn't expect.
>
> May Allah bless you with many (/very/ many) sons.
>
> If ya wanna bomb my carpet, please do.
>
> I'll leave it out in the back yard for ya.
>
> And if ya jam out of bombing it, I'll accidentally
> tip a barbecue onto it, and burn it down to the
> ground myself. How d'ya like them apples?
>
> More to the point -- who needs you?
The question arises as to who the hell needs you also? Your attempt at being
a yokel falls flat. Either get real or get lost!
> Even more to the point, and as we colloquially say
> in these parts: just **** the hell off, and go
> **** yerself.
It is up to me to tell who to fuck off and when, and not a rank amateur like
you.
> Maybe grow a human brain and an human heart in the
> process. But I'm not so hopeful.
CB has more heart that you and I put together. His good nature simply
astounds me. I think he might well be a saint (although of course not a
Great Saint like Saint Edward the Great).
> All you ever talk about is how "impossible" it is to
> ride bicycles safely.
>
> That's a total crock of shit, and you know it.
>
> But you still endeavour to scare people off their bikes.
>
> That is an evil and wicked goal.
CB lives in south Florida and knows what he is talking about. It is
dangerous to ride a bike where he lives. We can't all be from soggy old
Vancouver like you!
> Screw you and the horse you rode into town on.
>
> Your ANTI-bicycling propaganda cannot withstand
> the light of truth.
You would not know the truth if it jumped up and bit you in the elbow. But
you had best leave the invective to Ed Dolan the Great. He will KNOW when to
take CB to the woodshed if he gets too rambunctious.
Unmoderated newsgroups on Usenet were invented for characters like CB. If
you do not like it, then find yourself a moderated newsgroup where you can
be "moderated". CB and I like Usenet just the way it is.
LionWhisperer
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:06:54 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >news:hfsckf$rfi$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> Edward Dolan wrote:
> >>> [...]
> >>> Never mind my outbursts. They are all due to Tom Sherman, the most
> >>> notorious liberal ever to infest these cycling newsgroups.[...]
>
> >> But I am not a liberal [1]. Please pay attention.
>
> >> [1] <http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/liberals_are_useless_20091206/>.
>
> >I never go to a link unless I am told what to expect. You ought to know that
> >by now.
>
> >In any event, you are worse than the garden variety liberal. You are an
> >apologist for Palestinian terrorists. It is not possible to go any lower
> >than that.
>
> >Regards,
>
> >Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >aka
> >Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
And they don't have the Media either. ;)
The Media defines who's a terrorist and who's a freedom fighter.
LionWhisperer
> But you still endeavour to scare people off their bikes.
> That is an evil and wicked goal.
> Screw you and the horse you rode into town on.
> Your ANTI-bicycling propaganda cannot withstand
> the light of truth.
What scares people is the predators that I'm trying to put in the
cage.
I've challenged you and anyone else out there to come here and face
this jungle. We make a movie and we'll be celebrities going safari!
But you seem to be more stupid than the beast.
Edward Dolan
"LionWhisperer" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e49c080f-140b-4ad9...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> The Media defines who's a terrorist and who's a freedom fighter.
It is people who have a modicum of common sense who define what is what and
who is who. The g.d. media can't even define their own asses.
Ron Wallenfang
As per a previous exchange we've had, I have biked through your
"jungle" in Miami, and did not find it easy, at least not on US 1
coming up from the south.
You have often asserted that "Christian" motorists are responsible for
the danger. If this were so and Miami is uniquely dangerous, we ought
to find a huge concentration of Christian Church-goers in Miami. So I
checked it out and, guess what, there isn't. My research source here
is Dave Olson at www.TheAmericanChurch.org. According to its national
statistics, weekly Christian Church attendance in Florida is
substandard at 15%, and Dade County is below the Florida average.
North Dakota is tied (with LA) for first with just under 30%. I
single out North Dakota, because two of my most pleasant long bike
trip segments were in ND. One is at www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc4786 -
see days 10-12, especially 12. I'll give the cite for the other is a
follow-up post. Wisconsin, where I live is not far behind the
leaders, and also is a very good place to bike ride.
Ron Wallenfang
> On Dec 13, 12:03 pm, LionWhisperer <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 12, 10:48 pm, tkeats2...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:
>
> > > But you still endeavour to scare people off their bikes.
> > > That is an evil and wicked goal.
> > > Screw you and the horse you rode into town on.
> > > Your ANTI-bicycling propaganda cannot withstand
> > > the light of truth.
>
> > What scares people is the predators that I'm trying to put in the
> > cage.
>
> > I've challenged you and anyone else out there to come here and face
> > this jungle. We make a movie and we'll be celebrities going safari!
>
> > But you seem to be more stupid than the beast.
>
> As per a previous exchange we've had, I have biked through your
> "jungle" in Miami, and did not find it easy, at least not on US 1
> coming up from the south.
>
> You have often asserted that "Christian" motorists are responsible for
> the danger. If this were so and Miami is uniquely dangerous, we ought
> to find a huge concentration of Christian Church-goers in Miami. So I
> checked it out and, guess what, there isn't. My research source here
> statistics, weekly Christian Church attendance in Florida is
> substandard at 15%, and Dade County is below the Florida average.
> North Dakota is tied (with LA) for first with just under 30%. I
> single out North Dakota, because two of my most pleasant long bike
> trip segments were in ND. One is atwww.crazyguyonabike.com/doc4786-
> see days 10-12, especially 12. I'll give the cite for the other is a
> follow-up post. Wisconsin, where I live is not far behind the
> leaders, and also is a very good place to bike ride.
The other cite is at http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/5743 - days
12-14
dgk
Of course, of course. Whereas we have no problem doing "Shock and Awe"
on Baghad. Iraq does nothing to us but it's ok for us to destroy their
capital. Because we have an army, so that means it isn't terrorism.
dgk
wrote:
>
You know that isn't true Ed. The media portray whatever the corporate
masters wish.
LionTeaser
On Dec 13, 11:16 pm, George Chalkin <georgechal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > We may not be happy, but still are a family.
>
> > Maybe if we all go vegetarian...
>
> I don't wnat to sound discouraging, but to make any progress towards
> your goal, you must make a realistic assessment of the environment and
> opposition, and also of any resources. Of course if a community can
> agree upon some conditions and terms towards a common-goal, then you
> have a collective resource. But alternative lifestyles and counter-
> cultures are generally under political attack most of the time, and so
> most of you your resources will probably be deployed fighting
> political battles rather than making progress towards your goal and
> enjoying any gains. However, non-profit org. is probably your best bet
> to get something started.
Hey, that's some fruitful advice there!
But Jesus came (or not) and it was much later that people started
organizing until Rome converted and the rest is history.
When people see the advantage of adopting a jungle model many things
will start happening:
1- We would be aware of the predators (politicians, drivers) around
us, the way we are aware of sexual predators today. I say two species
so different like politicians and drivers because they prevent us from
changing things for the better and do the simple thing which is to
ride a bike,
2- I couldn't think of a law that applies in the jungle that doesn't
apply to the human jungle: BIG FISH EATS LITTLE FISH (money makes size
among us), EVERYONE TO HIMSELF (Darwinistic capitalism), MONKEY SEE
MONKEY DO (collective-herd behavior, our youngsters dressed with
hanging pants), CAMOUFLAGE (sneaky politicians with picture-perfect
families), PUNISHMENT AND REWARD when taming a beast (say the animals
behind the wheel), WE ARE DIFFERENT SPECIES (I mean we are one
species, but we all have different needs and expectations). For
example, under predatory capitalism we assume that a cyclist is a
failed consumer because he CAN'T afford a car...
3- It's plain fun to consider ourselves sort of a zoo, imagining who's
who in the jungle. ;)
LionTeaser
> On Dec 13, 12:03 pm, LionWhisperer <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 12, 10:48 pm, tkeats2...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:
>
> > > That is an evil and wicked goal.
> > > Your ANTI-bicycling propaganda cannot withstand
> > > the light of truth.
>
> > cage.
>
> > I've challenged you and anyone else out there to come here and face
> > this jungle. We make a movie and we'll be celebrities going safari!
>
> > But you seem to be more stupid than the beast.
>
> As per a previous exchange we've had, I have biked through your
> "jungle" in Miami, and did not find it easy, at least not on US 1
> coming up from the south.
>
> You have often asserted that "Christian" motorists are responsible for
> the danger. If this were so and Miami is uniquely dangerous, we ought
> to find a huge concentration of Christian Church-goers in Miami. So I
> checked it out and, guess what, there isn't. My research source here
> is Dave Olson atwww.TheAmericanChurch.org. According to its national
> statistics, weekly Christian Church attendance in Florida is
> substandard at 15%, and Dade County is below the Florida average.
> North Dakota is tied (with LA) for first with just under 30%. I
> single out North Dakota, because two of my most pleasant long bike
> trip segments were in ND. One is atwww.crazyguyonabike.com/doc4786-
> see days 10-12, especially 12. I'll give the cite for the other is a
> follow-up post. Wisconsin, where I live is not far behind the
> leaders, and also is a very good place to bike ride.
You are a true SURVIVOR of the jungle! Maybe you shuld send your
report to...
http://comebackalive.com/site3.php?page_id=9&sub_section_id=USA&sub_sub_section_id=things
Anyway, I don't even define myself as an atheist. I guess I belong
with Mark Twain in questioning things like Religion and Politics...
"The motto stated a lie. If this nation has ever trusted in God, that
time has gone by; for nearly half a century almost its entire trust
has been in the Republican party and the dollar--mainly the dollar. I
recognize that I am only making an assertion and furnishing no proof;
I am sorry, but this is a habit of mine; sorry also that I am not
alone in it; everybody seems to have this disease."
- Mark Twain in Eruption
Anyway, I'm aiming at a trilogy formed by Government, Religion and
Corporations... Where one begins and the other one ends is hard to
know. I can't address government and corporations though this forum,
but I can reach the only organized party I know: THE CHRISTIANS. They
voted Bush into office on issues like the war, gays and abortion. I
can also blame the Republicans for it, but this is not fair either.
SUVs and Globalization came into fashion under Clinton. And chances
are things won't be fixed under Obama either.
Why don't we drop the "In God we trust" from the mighty dollar and
start facing the problem at the source? What's the source and the
bottom end of it? THE DOLLAR. We can't ride bikes because it's not
convenient and comfortable for the trilogy. I'm sure there are many
people out there questioning things, and they may be Christian...
fine!
Justice can come through in many ways: Jesus inspired Gandhi, and
Gandhi inspired M.L. King. My praise to them. But we are dealing with
a nation that casually defines itself as Christian and yet it's part
of the worst predation. It may be good for the casual observer, but
not for the li-on hunter (hunter of the lie)... that's pure
CAMOUFLAGE.
Edward Dolan
"dgk" <d...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:05fci5h0jaq9pl8bj...@4ax.com...[...]
>>> Terrorists are "murdering scum who care not for legal process" AND
>>> who don't have an army to kill for them.
>
> Of course, of course. Whereas we have no problem doing "Shock and Awe"
> on Baghad. Iraq does nothing to us but it's ok for us to destroy their
> capital. Because we have an army, so that means it isn't terrorism.
I wish we had an army like Hitler or Stalin had. If we did, we could cut
through the Muslim World like Mohammad once did through the Medieval World.
Tamerlane also knew how to pile up skulls. Genghis Khan, where are you when
you are so desperately needed?
Edward Dolan
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:01:03 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"LionWhisperer" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:e49c080f-140b-4ad9...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>>[...]
>>> The Media defines who's a terrorist and who's a freedom fighter.
>>
>>It is people who have a modicum of common sense who define what is what
>>and
>>who is who. The g.d. media can't even define their own asses.
>
> masters wish.
MSNBC and GE are a case in point I must admit. But they are losing viewers
by the millions to Fox News.
Edward Dolan
"LionTeaser" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:79e641d3-ac42-4aca...@y24g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> Anyway, I don't even define myself as an atheist. I guess I belong
> with Mark Twain in questioning things like Religion and Politics...
>
> "The motto stated a lie. If this nation has ever trusted in God, that
> time has gone by; for nearly half a century almost its entire trust
> has been in the Republican party and the dollar--mainly the dollar. I
> recognize that I am only making an assertion and furnishing no proof;
> I am sorry, but this is a habit of mine; sorry also that I am not
> alone in it; everybody seems to have this disease."
Anyone still read Mark Twain? I have always found him, along with Will
Rogers, to be the worst sort of yokel. They truly belong to another century
and have absolutely no relevance to today. They fancied themselves wise
humorists, but basically unfunny and dumb to the core. Truth to tell, they
were both jerks!
dgk
wrote:
>
>"dgk" <d...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>news:u7fci591mdfksh2uq...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:01:03 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"LionWhisperer" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:e49c080f-140b-4ad9...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>>>[...]
>>>> The Media defines who's a terrorist and who's a freedom fighter.
>>>
>>>It is people who have a modicum of common sense who define what is what
>>>and
>>>who is who. The g.d. media can't even define their own asses.
>>
>> You know that isn't true Ed. The media portray whatever the corporate
>> masters wish.
>
>MSNBC and GE are a case in point I must admit. But they are losing viewers
>by the millions to Fox News.
>
>Regards,
>
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>aka
>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
Right, Fox. Owned by a fascist.
dgk
wrote:
>
You mean those horriible Muslims like some of my neighbors. Nice folks
actually. They believe that guy named Mohammad was a messenger from
God. Odd. Some of my other neighbors believe it was some Jewish Puerto
Rican named Jesus (H�sus). I don't know what the Chinese think. I
think it's all a crock of shit of course.
Now, should I get that Trek FX Plus (electric model)? The damn thing
is going to be around $3000 but maybe it will help my knees. One
really started bothering me heading up the damn bridge yesterday so
I'm not biking today.- probably not until Friday. I don't like it when
the knees start acting up. I need new knees. And a new heel. My back
isn't doing too well either.
Edward Dolan
[...]
> Now, should I get that Trek FX Plus (electric model)? The damn thing
> is going to be around $3000 but maybe it will help my knees. One
> really started bothering me heading up the damn bridge yesterday so
> I'm not biking today.- probably not until Friday. I don't like it when
> the knees start acting up. I need new knees. And a new heel. My back
> isn't doing too well either.
Cycling is not the be all and end all of exercise. Why not try walking
instead. After all, that is what nature designed us to do.
Edward Dolan
>>>>It is people who have a modicum of common sense who define what is what
>>>>and
>>>>who is who. The g.d. media can't even define their own asses.
>>>
>>> You know that isn't true Ed. The media portray whatever the corporate
>>> masters wish.
>>
>>MSNBC and GE are a case in point I must admit. But they are losing viewers
>>by the millions to Fox News.
>
It doesn't matter all that much who owns what when it comes to media. It is
the performers that matter. That is why Bill O'Reilly is a hundred times
more popular than Chris Matthews. The Ed Show is the best that MSNBC has to
offer. He is a bulldog for liberal progressive causes and not an idiot like
most of the rest of them.
If you do not mind being lectured to, The Glenn Beck Show on Fox News is
worth a look. He is by far and away the most interesting and entertaining
commentator to come along in ages.
Ron Wallenfang
> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:07:07 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >"dgk" <d...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> >news:05fci5h0jaq9pl8bj...@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:38:53 +0100, Simon Lewis
> >> <simonlewis2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >[...]
> >>>> Terrorists are "murdering scum who care not for legal process" AND
> >>>> who don't have an army to kill for them.
>
> >> Of course, of course. Whereas we have no problem doing "Shock and Awe"
> >> on Baghad. Iraq does nothing to us but it's ok for us to destroy their
> >> capital. Because we have an army, so that means it isn't terrorism.
>
> >I wish we had an army like Hitler or Stalin had. If we did, we could cut
> >through the Muslim World like Mohammad once did through the Medieval World.
> >Tamerlane also knew how to pile up skulls. Genghis Khan, where are you when
> >you are so desperately needed?
>
> >Regards,
>
> >Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >aka
> >Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
> You mean those horriible Muslims like some of my neighbors. Nice folks
> actually. They believe that guy named Mohammad was a messenger from
> God. Odd. Some of my other neighbors believe it was some Jewish Puerto
> think it's all a crock of shit of course.
>
> Now, should I get that Trek FX Plus (electric model)? The damn thing
> is going to be around $3000 but maybe it will help my knees. One
> really started bothering me heading up the damn bridge yesterday so
> I'm not biking today.- probably not until Friday. I don't like it when
> the knees start acting up. I need new knees. And a new heel. My back
>
> - Show quoted text -
What gear do you use to climb the "damn bridge"? I assume you're
aware that the lower the gear, the less strain you're putting on you
knees. If the granny gear and the slowest back gear are insufficient
to reduce pain, then walk it up - plus then it's time to see a sports
trainer or sports physician to get an opinion about what exercise
options your health permits.
dgk
>> Rican named Jesus (H�sus). I don't know what the Chinese think. I
>> think it's all a crock of shit of course.
>>
>> Now, should I get that Trek FX Plus (electric model)? The damn thing
>> is going to be around $3000 but maybe it will help my knees. One
>> really started bothering me heading up the damn bridge yesterday so
>> I'm not biking today.- probably not until Friday. I don't like it when
>> the knees start acting up. I need new knees. And a new heel. My back
>> isn't doing too well either.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>What gear do you use to climb the "damn bridge"? I assume you're
>aware that the lower the gear, the less strain you're putting on you
>knees. If the granny gear and the slowest back gear are insufficient
>to reduce pain, then walk it up - plus then it's time to see a sports
>trainer or sports physician to get an opinion about what exercise
>options your health permits.
Yes, I generally use the lower gears. If I manage to pass someone on a
hill then they are most likely going backwards. But I'm getting pretty
close to 60 years old so I don't expect things to work as well as when
they were new. I prefer to call it the Grandpa gear however.
Normally I don't have knee pain; I just pulled something but that kind
of thing happens more often these days. Mostly I'm just getting tired
of fighting hills and headwinds. My commute is 15 miles each way so it
isn't exactly trivial.
This is the first year that I've noticed a significant dropoff in
physical ability. There is, after all, a reason that you don't find 50
year old professional ballplayers. An example then: I go surfing,
mostly April to October. Normally I don't even swim from November to
April and then I paddle out and do my usual job of having the board
ride me to shore.
In April of this year I started paddling out and my arms were just
dead. It took a month before I could really start swimming. So I'm
going swimming once or twice a week now and if I miss a week I feel it
the next one. I'd like to think that it's all in my mind, but it
isn't.. It's in muscle fibers and mitochondria and elasticity.
I was never very goog going up hills anyway.
LionTeaser
> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:07:07 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >"dgk" <d...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> >news:05fci5h0jaq9pl8bj...@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:38:53 +0100, Simon Lewis
> >> <simonlewis2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >[...]
> >>>> Terrorists are "murdering scum who care not for legal process" AND
> >>>> who don't have an army to kill for them.
>
> >> Of course, of course. Whereas we have no problem doing "Shock and Awe"
> >> on Baghad. Iraq does nothing to us but it's ok for us to destroy their
> >> capital. Because we have an army, so that means it isn't terrorism.
>
> >I wish we had an army like Hitler or Stalin had. If we did, we could cut
> >through the Muslim World like Mohammad once did through the Medieval World.
> >Tamerlane also knew how to pile up skulls. Genghis Khan, where are you when
> >you are so desperately needed?
>
> >Regards,
>
> >Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> >aka
> >Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
> You mean those horriible Muslims like some of my neighbors. Nice folks
> actually. They believe that guy named Mohammad was a messenger from
> God. Odd. Some of my other neighbors believe it was some Jewish Puerto
> think it's all a crock of shit of course.
>
> Now, should I get that Trek FX Plus (electric model)? The damn thing
> is going to be around $3000 but maybe it will help my knees. One
> really started bothering me heading up the damn bridge yesterday so
> I'm not biking today.- probably not until Friday. I don't like it when
> the knees start acting up. I need new knees. And a new heel. My back
>
> - Show quoted text -
Have you prayed for new knees lately? ;)
I think the Chinese believe in Yin and Yang, and also in Globalization
and SUVs. So the cyclists there too are under attack.
LionTeaser
> "LionTeaser" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:79e641d3-ac42-4aca...@y24g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> [...]
>
> > Anyway, I don't even define myself as an atheist. I guess I belong
> > with Mark Twain in questioning things like Religion and Politics...
>
> > "The motto stated a lie. If this nation has ever trusted in God, that
> > time has gone by; for nearly half a century almost its entire trust
> > has been in the Republican party and the dollar--mainly the dollar. I
> > recognize that I am only making an assertion and furnishing no proof;
> > I am sorry, but this is a habit of mine; sorry also that I am not
> > alone in it; everybody seems to have this disease."
> > - Mark Twain in Eruption [...]
>
> Anyone still read Mark Twain? I have always found him, along with Will
> Rogers, to be the worst sort of yokel. They truly belong to another century
> and have absolutely no relevance to today. They fancied themselves wise
> humorists, but basically unfunny and dumb to the core. Truth to tell, they
> were both jerks!
But that quotation is right on the money. It seems written today...
We worship gold while claiming to worship god.
LionTeaser
> "dgk" <d...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>
> news:t09fi510fiub54m75...@4ax.com...
> [...]
>
> > Now, should I get that Trek FX Plus (electric model)? The damn thing
> > is going to be around $3000 but maybe it will help my knees. One
> > really started bothering me heading up the damn bridge yesterday so
> > I'm not biking today.- probably not until Friday. I don't like it when
> > the knees start acting up. I need new knees. And a new heel. My back
> > isn't doing too well either.
>
> Cycling is not the be all and end all of exercise. Why not try walking
> instead. After all, that is what nature designed us to do.
>
It's not friendly either. But in my new neighborhood I'm doing just
that (with incidents here and there), while forcing myself to use the
bike for longer distances.
The issue is DISTANCE. Under two miles it's WALKABLE, above that you
need a bike, until 10 miles or so where you need a car or bus. I'm
talking about practical cycling, of course.
LionTeaser
Having Internet, who cares about all those clowns?
The Media is manipulation, the truth is here!
Edward Dolan
"LionTeaser" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:58d42bdc-bb02-4863...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...[...]
> Cycling is not the be all and end all of exercise. Why not try walking
> instead. After all, that is what nature designed us to do.
>> It's not friendly either. But in my new neighborhood I'm doing just
that (with incidents here and there), while forcing myself to use the
bike for longer distances.
>> The issue is DISTANCE. Under two miles it's WALKABLE, above that you
need a bike, until 10 miles or so where you need a car or bus. I'm
talking about practical cycling, of course.
CB has got it right. I do not like to walk for long distances either unless
I am hiking in the mountains or the desert. Cycling is a miracle and I would
never want to give it up entirely. Also, like CB, I am a practical cyclist
and not just a recreational cyclist.
Edward Dolan
[...]
> Yes, I generally use the lower gears. If I manage to pass someone on a
> hill then they are most likely going backwards. But I'm getting pretty
> close to 60 years old so I don't expect things to work as well as when
> they were new. I prefer to call it the Grandpa gear however.
>
> Normally I don't have knee pain; I just pulled something but that kind
> of thing happens more often these days. Mostly I'm just getting tired
> of fighting hills and headwinds. My commute is 15 miles each way so it
> isn't exactly trivial.
>
> This is the first year that I've noticed a significant dropoff in
> physical ability. There is, after all, a reason that you don't find 50
> year old professional ballplayers. An example then: I go surfing,
> mostly April to October. Normally I don't even swim from November to
> April and then I paddle out and do my usual job of having the board
> ride me to shore.
>
> In April of this year I started paddling out and my arms were just
> dead. It took a month before I could really start swimming. So I'm
> going swimming once or twice a week now and if I miss a week I feel it
> the next one. I'd like to think that it's all in my mind, but it
> isn't.. It's in muscle fibers and mitochondria and elasticity.
>
For Heaven's sakes, you are just getting old. It happens to all of us who
are lucky enough to live a long life. Just slow down and you will be fine.
Instead of trying to be young again, get yourself a gallon of Livingston
Cellars Red Rose wine each week and imbibe at least a couple of large
glasses every day. That will make you feel much better about yourself.
Edward Dolan
"LionTeaser" <nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:91306bae-7d74-473e...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...[...]
> It doesn't matter all that much who owns what when it comes to media. It
> is
> the performers that matter. That is why Bill O'Reilly is a hundred times
> more popular than Chris Matthews. The Ed Show is the best that MSNBC has
> to
> offer. He is a bulldog for liberal progressive causes and not an idiot
> like
> most of the rest of them.
>
> If you do not mind being lectured to, The Glenn Beck Show on Fox News is
> worth a look. He is by far and away the most interesting and entertaining
> commentator to come along in ages.
>> Having Internet, who cares about all those clowns?
>> The Media is manipulation, the truth is here!
I think in a face off of TV vs. the computer that TV will always win. TV is
a passive recreation and the computer is anything but. In fact, I often come
away from the computer so pissed off that I am ready to kill somebody.
Liberal progressives will watch MSNBC and conservatives will watch Fox News.
Nothing wrong with that as long as you know what is what. The days when the
broadcast networks (e.g. Walter Cronkite) could totally dominate all media
are long gone. Now we really do have choices.
Edward Dolan
I am as poor as a church mouse and have been so all of my life. The only
thing I ever splurged on were recumbent bicycles.
I am content to just get by provided I do not have to work at a job. I leave
drudgery to the workers of the world of which there never seems to be a
shortage. Instead, I have spent my life listening to the music of Beethoven
and reading the works of Arnold Toynbee. I think I could have spent my life
doing far worse.
His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic Enterprises
>
> - Show quoted text -
The music of Beethoven is the best company for a relaxed bike ride. I
have an Electra Classic, like the vintage British bikes. It got a big
carrying capacity, and straight sitting in the old style. I've got
other bikes but they need bigger distances, and I'm waiting to see if
they want to tame the jungle around here.
Also got a chopper with ape hangers for the beach but I'm tired of
riding the stupid path up and down all the time like an idiot. I like
HAVING A PURPOSE for riding.
Edward Dolan
"His Highness Comandante Banana, King of the Apes I & Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises" <comandan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7f10cf4a-173c-4727...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> The music of Beethoven is the best company for a relaxed bike ride. I
have an Electra Classic, like the vintage British bikes. It got a big
carrying capacity, and straight sitting in the old style. I've got
other bikes but they need bigger distances, and I'm waiting to see if
they want to tame the jungle around here.
You cannot beat a recumbent style of bicycle for relaxed cycling. Yet it is
good exercise too. Recumbents are just plain fun to ride. Uprights are
mostly a pain in the ass, the neck, the shoulders, the lower back, etc.
> Also got a chopper with ape hangers for the beach but I'm tired of
riding the stupid path up and down all the time like an idiot. I like
HAVING A PURPOSE for riding.
I always try to do some kind of circuit of the town. Back and forth does not
work for me either. A suitable purpose for riding is recreation, but you
really feel like you are ahead of all the other idiots in the world when you
can combine recreation with doing your chores (grocery shopping, hardware
store, etc.).
Edward Dolan
[...]
> You mean those horriible Muslims like some of my neighbors. Nice folks
> actually. They believe that guy named Mohammad was a messenger from
> God. Odd. Some of my other neighbors believe it was some Jewish Puerto
> Rican named Jesus (H�sus). I don't know what the Chinese think. I
You and I are not religious, but that does not mean we can ignore those who
are. Islam is NOT a tolerant religion. To equate Christians with Muslims is
a mistake. They are as different as night is from day. Those nice Muslims in
your neighborhood regard you as an enemy. They would like to see you dead -
or else converted to Islam. Try not to be so stupid despite your liberalism.
dgk
wrote:
>
This is true. I have not found a suitable alternative to growing
older. My plan is to get some assitance for the bad parts of riding,
like those ***** hills, and the headwinds. That assistance will likely
be in the form of a Bionx PL350 kit.
Edward Dolan
>>For Heaven's sakes, you are just getting old. It happens to all of us who
>>are lucky enough to live a long life. Just slow down and you will be fine.
>>
>>Instead of trying to be young again, get yourself a gallon of Livingston
>>Cellars Red Rose wine each week and imbibe at least a couple of large
>>glasses every day. That will make you feel much better about yourself.
> This is true. I have not found a suitable alternative to growing
> older. My plan is to get some assitance for the bad parts of riding,
> like those ***** hills, and the headwinds. That assistance will likely
> be in the form of a Bionx PL350 kit.
I would forget about assisted motors for bicycles, whether electric or
gasoline. They are more trouble than they are worth. Just gear down and go
slower.
Clueless
> "dgk" <d...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>
> news:t09fi510fiub54m75...@4ax.com...
> [...]
>
> > You mean those horriible Muslims like some of my neighbors. Nice folks
> > actually. They believe that guy named Mohammad was a messenger from
> > God. Odd. Some of my other neighbors believe it was some Jewish Puerto
> > think it's all a crock of shit of course. [...]
>
> You and I are not religious, but that does not mean we can ignore those who
> are. Islam is NOT a tolerant religion. To equate Christians with Muslims is
> a mistake. They are as different as night is from day. Those nice Muslims in
> your neighborhood regard you as an enemy. They would like to see you dead -
> or else converted to Islam. Try not to be so stupid despite your liberalism.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
I can't possibly attack Islam without them feeling hurt by an outside
attack. I attack my onw, and let them attack their own.
It's still the same thing: THEY ALL COME FROM THE FAIRY TALE OF ADAM
AND EVE.
Ron Wallenfang
> I can't possibly attack Islam without them feeling hurt by an
outside
> attack. I attack my onw, and let them attack their own.
>
> It's still the same thing: THEY ALL COME FROM THE FAIRY TALE OF ADAM
>
> - Show quoted text -
And on the basis of what "fairy tale" do you live your life? What are
your first principles? Where do you get them? What guidance do they
give you for living your life? If you think you don't need first
principles, what are your working assumptions and where do you get
them?
If all you do is "attack your own", are you anything but a nihilist?
If on my next bike ride, I wish to reflect on the working assumptions
that guide your life, where do I begin?
Edward Dolan
"Clueless" <comandan...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:66646432-b6bb-4e36...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 18, 2:32 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "dgk" <d...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>
> news:t09fi510fiub54m75...@4ax.com...
> [...]
>
> > You mean those horriible Muslims like some of my neighbors. Nice folks
> > actually. They believe that guy named Mohammad was a messenger from
> > God. Odd. Some of my other neighbors believe it was some Jewish Puerto
> > think it's all a crock of shit of course. [...]
>
> You and I are not religious, but that does not mean we can ignore those
> who
> are. Islam is NOT a tolerant religion. To equate Christians with Muslims
> is
> a mistake. They are as different as night is from day. Those nice Muslims
> in
> your neighborhood regard you as an enemy. They would like to see you
> dead -
> or else converted to Islam. Try not to be so stupid despite your
> liberalism.
>>> I can't possibly attack Islam without them feeling hurt by an outside
attack. I attack my onw, and let them attack their own.
>>> It's still the same thing: THEY ALL COME FROM THE FAIRY TALE OF ADAM
AND EVE.
You truly are clueless. Those fairy tales that they come from can kill you
dead.
There are no Christians running amuck in the world today, but there are
plenty of Muslims running amuck. They are attacking you, you god damn
fucking stupid moron! Take your liberalism and shove it up your ass!
dgk
wrote:
>
>"dgk" <d...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>news:qs2ni59cu8429kv28...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:54:47 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
>> wrote:
>[...]
>>>For Heaven's sakes, you are just getting old. It happens to all of us who
>>>are lucky enough to live a long life. Just slow down and you will be fine.
>>>
>>>Instead of trying to be young again, get yourself a gallon of Livingston
>>>Cellars Red Rose wine each week and imbibe at least a couple of large
>>>glasses every day. That will make you feel much better about yourself.
>
>> This is true. I have not found a suitable alternative to growing
>> older. My plan is to get some assitance for the bad parts of riding,
>> like those ***** hills, and the headwinds. That assistance will likely
>> be in the form of a Bionx PL350 kit.
>
>I would forget about assisted motors for bicycles, whether electric or
>gasoline. They are more trouble than they are worth. Just gear down and go
>slower.
>
>Regards,
>
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>aka
>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
No actually, that was true until fairly recently. There have been very
siginificant improvments over the old kind. It used to be that a bike
with a motor was so heavy that you couldn't use the bike without using
the motor. The current ones add around 15lbs - including the battery.
My bike is easily 15 lbs heavier than a bike I could buy for $600.
So if I get that $600 bike and put on the motor, it weighs no more
than my current Trek 7100 and I can use it without the motor. That's
my plan - use the motor for hills and headwinds. Use only pedal-assist
mode rather than a throttle.
You do pay for what you get however. The Bionx PL350 is around $1800.
You can also buy a whole electric bike for $500, but then we're back
to getting what you pay for.
dgk
I was raised to treat other people like I would like to be treated.
That required no belief in some supernatural being or fairy tales
about things that may or may not have happened 2000 years ago.
Equating moral beliefs with religious teaching is a fallacy.
dgk
wrote:
>
Ed, my leaders are Christian. They kill wherever and whenever they
wish to in order to maximize corporate profits.
TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:52:48 -0600, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >news:66646432-b6bb-4e36...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> >On Dec 18, 2:32 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> >> "dgk" <d...@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:t09fi510fiub54m75...@4ax.com...
> >> [...]
>
> >> > You mean those horriible Muslims like some of my neighbors. Nice folks
> >> > actually. They believe that guy named Mohammad was a messenger from
> >> > God. Odd. Some of my other neighbors believe it was some Jewish Puerto
> >> > think it's all a crock of shit of course. [...]
>
> >> You and I are not religious, but that does not mean we can ignore those
> >> who
> >> are. Islam is NOT a tolerant religion. To equate Christians with Muslims
> >> is
> >> a mistake. They are as different as night is from day. Those nice Muslims
> >> in
> >> your neighborhood regard you as an enemy. They would like to see you
> >> dead -
> >> or else converted to Islam. Try not to be so stupid despite your
> >> liberalism.
>
> >>>> I can't possibly attack Islam without them feeling hurt by an outside
> >attack. I attack my onw, and let them attack their own.
>
> >>>> It's still the same thing: THEY ALL COME FROM THE FAIRY TALE OF ADAM
> >AND EVE.
>
> >You truly are clueless. Those fairy tales that they come from can kill you
> >dead.
>
> >There are no Christians running amuck in the world today, but there are
> >plenty of Muslims running amuck. They are attacking you, you god damn
> >fucking stupid moron! Take your liberalism and shove it up your ass!
>
> >Regards,
>
> Ed, my leaders are Christian. They kill wherever and whenever they
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think that's a quotable quote, isn't it? But the sheep are looking
for a guy with two horns.
TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
in either one and want to escape their power struggle. Actually that
god sounds so much like the tyrants we have in this world that we may
have a hard time telling that Fidel Castro is not god.
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"The path of enlightenment is having many paths for people to follow
at their own wish"
Ron Wallenfang
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:43:39 -0800 (PST), Ron Wallenfang
> <rwallenf...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >And on the basis of what "fairy tale" do you live your life? What are
> >your first principles? Where do you get them? What guidance do they
> >give you for living your life? If you think you don't need first
> >principles, what are your working assumptions and where do you get
> >them?
>
>
> I was raised to treat other people like I would like to be treated.
> That required no belief in some supernatural being or fairy tales
> about things that may or may not have happened 2000 years ago.
> Equating moral beliefs with religious teaching is a fallacy.- Hide quoted text -
>
I'm reading into your response that the working assumptions that guide
your life came from how you were raised. Not bad; there are worse
approaches. But I'd like to think you can do better. Consider by
comparison: I was raised Catholic. Shouldn't I be able to come up
with a better justification for my faith than that?
Just something to meditate upon while on the bike......
Michael Press
<16011787-7862-4e99...@p19g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,
Ron Wallenfang <rwall...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
Faith does not call for justification.
Actually, nothing requires justification.
--
Michael Press
Ron Wallenfang
> In article
> <16011787-7862-4e99-b55a-a1f5e35b2...@p19g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,
Including the statement you just made??
I can't seriously "justify" my preference for 35x700 bike tires over
wider or narrower ones; it's almost purely personal preference. But
the opinions of much of this thread are ones around which you'd like
to wrap a ribbon to make your views more attractive to others, or to
probe opposing viewpoints.
Michael Press
<dcfc332d-ae79-404b...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Ron Wallenfang <rwall...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
I would?
--
Michael Press
TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
Thank you and now you may go on with your discussion. ;)
Ron Wallenfang
>
> - Show quoted text -
It's a generic "you"; not a personal one. Read it as a projection on
my part.
dgk
showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
<nolionn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I just wanted to correct the title.
>
>Thank you and now you may go on with your discussion. ;)
And thank you, that was a very kind deed.