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Ron May

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Oct 9, 2009, 7:58:45 PM10/9/09
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:34:21 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:

> Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:
>> Spot the difference.
>
> The post to a.c.f was a hour later than Gattman's post from Google to the
> aviation groups. The a.c.f post was via x-privat.org, which obscures the
> originating IP address, so everything posted from it (and dizum.com) have
> zero credibility and therefore zero value.
>
> So is there a point to your efforts?
>
>>
>> from C Gattman
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.piloting/msg/
>> a92305e2a401c6d2>
>>
>> from Ron May
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/msg/426eeafcb72272fd>
>>
>>> From 1998 until 2008 I worked in the internet industry chasing
>>> pedophiles, spammers, hackers and, after 2001, terrorists around the
>>> internet. Being exposed to photos or videos of babies being raped or
>>> people being beheaded, in the odd, sterile juxtaposition of office-
>>> world and without -really- being able to do anything about it creeps
>>> into your psyche and takes a toll. [ETC]
>>

You and I have gone round the bout before when I was trying to alert
your group of the upcoming sale of Pricelessware Cds with great
freeware. I remember that you acted like a dunce then so nothing has
changed.

Don't expect a response from me, troll.

Btw, nice try in setting the Follow-Up to alt.null, you dumbbcluck, do
you think freeware scientists like myself and others are as stupid as
people who fly around in the air and get killed by the scads?
--
Ron M.
Help improve the ACF experience. Please don't feed the trolls.
New to the group? Check out http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/
Try to ignore subject lines that are not freeware related.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 9, 2009, 8:00:15 PM10/9/09
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Jim, meet Ron May, ACF's chief scam artist and international criminal.

Enjoy.
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User

Jim Logajan

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Oct 10, 2009, 12:03:20 AM10/10/09
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A person of great hubris wrote:
> do you think freeware scientists like myself

Amusing self-assessment.

Bjorn S.

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Oct 10, 2009, 9:36:42 AM10/10/09
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Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.

Should we killfile him?
--
All the best,
Bjorn S.
- I only post via <news.individual.net> or <news.broadpark.no>!

Ron May

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Oct 10, 2009, 11:07:59 AM10/10/09
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:36:42 -0400, Bjorn S. wrote:

> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:03:20 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:
>
>> A person of great hubris wrote:
>>> do you think freeware scientists like myself
>>
>> Amusing self-assessment.
>
> Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
>
> Should we killfile him?

Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
asshole coward that he is.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 10, 2009, 11:11:09 AM10/10/09
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:52:14 -0400, Ron May wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 06:39:05 -0400, LouB wrote:
>
>> Ron May wrote:

>>> On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:27:33 -0400, POKO wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <4acf7e0f$1...@news.x-privat.org>, may...@hotmail.com says...
>>>> the only two discussions
>>>>> ..... I've started in a year, is not productive.
>>>> Spoken like the true gentleman you are. I'll miss you!
>>>
>>> Thanks POKO, I'll miss you and all of ACF.
>>
>> Why can't you stick around and totally ignore the fools?
>> Either filter them or ignore their posts.
>> I skip any thread with crap in it.
>> Saves both aggravation and time:-))
>>
>> Lou
>
> I can't take it anymore, Lou, you're right but the constant trolling,
> forgeries and the backstabbing by ACFers who claim to be
> pro-Pricelessware....it isn't worth it to me anymore.

Bullshit, May, yuo little baby, cry and whine because we exposed your
freeware distribution scam and now leave?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 10, 2009, 11:13:45 AM10/10/09
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:07:59 -0400, Ron May wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:36:42 -0400, Bjorn S. wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:03:20 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:
>>
>>> A person of great hubris wrote:
>>>> do you think freeware scientists like myself
>>>
>>> Amusing self-assessment.
>>
>> Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
>>
>> Should we killfile him?
>
> Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
> asshole coward that he is.

Hmmm, so Jim Logajan is an assumed name? He has been posting for a
decade under an assumed name? One that people also use when they greet
him in person?

wow is he good or what?

No, no my bad, you and Bjorn The Boob are a matched set of morons.

renminbis

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Oct 10, 2009, 11:27:05 AM10/10/09
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:07:59 -0400, Ron May wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:36:42 -0400, Bjorn S. wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:03:20 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:
>>
>>> A person of great hubris wrote:
>>>> do you think freeware scientists like myself
>>>
>>> Amusing self-assessment.
>>
>> Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
>>
>> Should we killfile him?
>
> Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
> asshole coward that he is.

You were asked if there was controversy about the product you are
promoting. Your response to that query was no. Do you really think
all the folks here don't know how to read other newsgroups? A quick
glance at that group will give any reasonable person a different
impression than the one you are trying to convey. It appears, to me,
that you think you own the ACF newsgroup and that you are using it to
promote a product that claims to be free. There is much controversy
about this, even to the point of saying this product is illegal on
an international scale. It appears that more than a few readers of
that newsgroup object to you using it to promote a product that they
feel is *not* free... or even legal in the sense of violating
international copyright laws.

Is this debatable, subject to controversy, open to question or
dispute? My impression is yes, it is. You seem to want to brush this
little fact aside. That calls into question your integrity and the
value of the product you are trying to promote and it doesn't impel
me to support your cause or send "cash only" for a "free" product.

This is Usenet. If debate is a problem for you, then perhaps you
should only promote your product on a website or private moderated
web forum where all controversy can be filtered from public view.

Thank you for bringing this issue to my attention.

And have a nice day. :)
--
China holds $652 billion in Treasury debt; owns $3 of every $10
of America's public debt. To finance the US $1.700 trillion bailout of
the banks, China will have to buy that debt. Ain't life great when
slants and chinks own your soul?

Ron May

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Oct 10, 2009, 11:29:54 AM10/10/09
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THERE IS NOBODY PROMOTING ANY PRODUCT WHATSOEVER EXCEPT THE FORGER!

All of the programs on the Pricelessware list are available to
download for free. It's a REQUIREMENT to qualify. There is and never
has been any attempt to market or sell anything WRT the Pricelessware
List or the Pricelesswarehome web site. PERIOD! CDs, now that is a
different thing, we have heavy costs to cover, heavy costs and we need
$24.95 per CD.

It's shit like this that smears the reputations of people who strongly
believe in playing by the rules that led me to speak out here.
Everything you referred to above is PROVABLY FALSE for anyone who
cares to spend the time looking at it.

Now quit trolling me Logajan and go fly your kites.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 10, 2009, 11:35:06 AM10/10/09
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I can't wait to hear how you can justify $25 USA for a fucking CD of
freeware, May, but, hey, you've never been shy about lying in the past
so have at it.



> It's shit like this that smears the reputations of people who strongly
> believe in playing by the rules that led me to speak out here.

Speak out? The Subject line is "So Long" so exactly when are you so
longing because many of us, droves MOF, so long for you to FOAD.

> Everything you referred to above is PROVABLY FALSE for anyone who
> cares to spend the time looking at it.

You're shouting again.



> Now quit trolling me Logajan and go fly your kites.

I don't know, Ronnie, it appears you've completely lost it. All gone.
Ground Brain Zero STS.

Dan Camper

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Oct 10, 2009, 11:36:57 AM10/10/09
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:35:06 -0400, Jeffrey Bloss wrote:

> I can't wait to hear how you can justify $25 USA for a fucking CD of
> freeware, May, but, hey, you've never been shy about lying in the past
> so have at it.

They send them Federal Express, Floss.
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http://tr.im/1f9p

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 10, 2009, 11:37:57 AM10/10/09
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No shit well isn't that (e)special(ly) stupid. lol

Bjorn S.

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Oct 10, 2009, 11:41:24 AM10/10/09
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:07:59 -0400, Ron May wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:36:42 -0400, Bjorn S. wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:03:20 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:
>>
>>> A person of great hubris wrote:
>>>> do you think freeware scientists like myself
>>>
>>> Amusing self-assessment.
>>
>> Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
>>
>> Should we killfile him?
>
> Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
> asshole coward that he is.

Done!

Jim Logajan

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Oct 10, 2009, 2:11:00 PM10/10/09
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Jeffrey Bloss <jeffre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, no my bad, you and Bjorn The Boob are a matched set of morons.

All the posts I've seen from Ron and Bjorn and about a half dozen or more
other handles in the "From:" header (I haven't kept close count) are
actually from the same person.

So they are merely matched - they are the same person.

Jim Logajan

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Oct 10, 2009, 2:29:32 PM10/10/09
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Ron May <may...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:36:42 -0400, Bjorn S. wrote:
>> Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
>> Should we killfile him?
>
> Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
> asshole coward that he is.

Anyone knowing the rudiments of Usenet operation and taking a moment of
observation can see you are holding a conversation with yourself.

I see that no one has yet told you that the "X-Authenticated-User:" header
that x-privat.org adds to each post uniquely IDs each of its users,
irrespective of what those users put in the "From:" header.

So all the posts you've been making to the various newsgroups under
multiple handles (which appears to be quite a few) really exposes your
emotional issues for all the world to see. Opposite your intent, no doubt.

You probably aren't stupid, but you do seem to have very poor control of
your emotions - at least with respect to online actions. Your intellect
isn't making a fool of you so much as your loose emotional control. Perhaps
if you direct your efforts into something constructive (rather than
destructive) while you learn better self-control (and well-earned humilty,)
you'll become a better person for the effort.

Jim Logajan

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Oct 10, 2009, 2:32:05 PM10/10/09
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Intended to write:

So they aren't merely matched - they are the same person.

Gordon Darling

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Oct 10, 2009, 3:01:37 PM10/10/09
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[Jim Logajan] wrote this on A.C.F.:

I noticed that too, but I'm afraid Ron May has been like that as far
back as I can remember. He has an unfortunate tendency to get very fired
up about silly little things and lets off steam on this newsgroup, using
endless socks/forgeries but without realising how destructive he is.

Of course some of it is related to his role in the Pricelessware Racket
and his desperate attempts to divert attention away from the alleged
financial scandals.


-Gordon

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 10, 2009, 3:43:50 PM10/10/09
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?????

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 10, 2009, 3:44:26 PM10/10/09
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Wouldn't surprise me, May is capable of anything.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 10, 2009, 3:45:54 PM10/10/09
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Problem is over, I have contacted the x-[rivat group and they have
banned "Ron May" from any further use of hteir services.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 10, 2009, 3:55:05 PM10/10/09
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May tries valiantly to give the impression that there was no
controversy as to the commercial and legal aspect of the product he is
promoting in alt.comp.freeware and now he is "spamming" another Usenet
newsgroup that isn't about "freeware" but is about aviation.

The only point in using sock puppets is to drown out the opposing
viewpoint by presenting a volume of fake posters to mislead others,
usually the noobs. The intent is not in presenting a valid argument.

Using sock puppets is misdirection. The malcontent is attempting to add
volume (in numbers of identities) rather than logic in their content to
convince other visitors to that group. Hiding behind sock puppets
(and often hiding behind remailers) is not done for beneficial reasons.
They replace eloquence and logic with a volume of fake identities.

So goes the Pricelessware goon squad, scammers to the end.

Franklin

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Oct 10, 2009, 5:45:46 PM10/10/09
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Jim Logajan wrote:

> Ron May <may...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:36:42 -0400, Bjorn S. wrote:
>>> Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
>>> Should we killfile him?
>>
>> Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like
>> the asshole coward that he is.
>
> Anyone knowing the rudiments of Usenet operation and taking a moment
> of observation can see you are holding a conversation with yourself.
>
> I see that no one has yet told you that the "X-Authenticated-User:"
> header that x-privat.org adds to each post uniquely IDs each of its
> users, irrespective of what those users put in the "From:" header.

Darn! You told him! It's been interesting watching which identities he
uses or which he hijacks. Here are some posts by Desk Rabbit, Snuwulf
and Chrissy Cruiser which all shared his old same header.

X-Authenticated-User: $$wt$7w$25xx_gbj-cgvi5hl

Desk Rabbit <m...@example.com>
<http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/67347ee146eb9
f0a?dmode=source>

snuhwolf <snuh...@yahoo.com>
<http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/a221f028c5069
d1e?dmode=source>

Chrissy Cruiser <twinbr...@yahoo.com>
<http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/76893451a49c0
d7f?dmode=source>


> So all the posts you've been making to the various newsgroups under
> multiple handles (which appears to be quite a few) really exposes your
> emotional issues for all the world to see. Opposite your intent, no
> doubt.
>
> You probably aren't stupid, but you do seem to have very poor control
> of your emotions - at least with respect to online actions. Your
> intellect isn't making a fool of you so much as your loose emotional
> control. Perhaps if you direct your efforts into something
> constructive (rather than destructive) while you learn better
> self-control (and well-earned humilty,) you'll become a better person
> for the effort.


There's a lot more. :)

Jim Logajan

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Oct 10, 2009, 9:24:21 PM10/10/09
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Jeffrey Bloss <jeffre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:29:32 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:
>
>> Ron May <may...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:36:42 -0400, Bjorn S. wrote:
>>>> Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
>>>> Should we killfile him?
>>>
>>> Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like
>>> the asshole coward that he is.
>>
>> Anyone knowing the rudiments of Usenet operation and taking a moment
>> of observation can see you are holding a conversation with yourself.
>>
>> I see that no one has yet told you that the "X-Authenticated-User:"
>> header that x-privat.org adds to each post uniquely IDs each of its
>> users, irrespective of what those users put in the "From:" header.
[...]

>
> Problem is over, I have contacted the x-[rivat group and they have
> banned "Ron May" from any further use of hteir services.

I find that hard to believe because:

1) You allegedly managed that in under two hours after my post.

2) The only time I ever sent a complaint to the x-privat.org abuse address,
there was no acknowledgement of when or if they took action.

3) You failed to state what rationale you provided to x-privat that would
yield such rapid results.

4) You are posting from eternal-september.org, another free Usenet portal
that obscures the actual sender, so your real identity and motives are
unknown.

So you could be the same person and posted the "problem over" as quickly as
possible in order to preempt any abuse reports by others.

Posts like yours from anonymizing Usenet service providers can never be
trusted. Try posting via a reputable commercial service (as little as
$2/month; e.g. newsguy.com) or even Google, which at least includes the
source IP address.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 12:23:22 AM10/11/09
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:34:02 +0200, John Corliss wrote:

> "Ron May" wrote:
>
>>I can't take it anymore, Lou, you're right but the constant trolling,
>>forgeries and the backstabbing by ACFers who claim to be
>>pro-Pricelessware....it isn't worth it to me anymore.
>

> Hi Ron,
>
> Don't be such a fucking cry baby.
>
> I'm not going to waste any more time trying to participate in this
> group as a regular. I'll probably check in now and again, I'd sure
> like to get my hands on you you God-damned asshole troll. My baseball
> bat is itching for some exercise.

John, seriously, don't step out now, we need you ever-vigilance.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 12:25:29 AM10/11/09
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:45:47 +0200, Ron May wrote:

> "Jeffrey Bloss" wrote

> Everything you lot post about me is complete crap.
> You're just a bunch of scum pond life and asshole cowardly trolls.

I am beginning to hate your very presence, May.

> I never have charged more than $30 for a Pricelesware CD. Due to the
> recession I have reduced that to $24.95 and I believe that is a fair
> price for 700MB of freeware.
>
> <VBG>

There is *NO* reason to charge that much and you have never delivered on
CD by FedEx.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 12:29:00 AM10/11/09
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:24:21 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:

> Jeffrey Bloss <jeffre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:29:32 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:
>>
>>> Ron May <may...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:36:42 -0400, Bjorn S. wrote:
>>>>> Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
>>>>> Should we killfile him?
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like
>>>> the asshole coward that he is.
>>>
>>> Anyone knowing the rudiments of Usenet operation and taking a moment
>>> of observation can see you are holding a conversation with yourself.
>>>
>>> I see that no one has yet told you that the "X-Authenticated-User:"
>>> header that x-privat.org adds to each post uniquely IDs each of its
>>> users, irrespective of what those users put in the "From:" header.
> [...]
>>
>> Problem is over, I have contacted the x-[rivat group and they have
>> banned "Ron May" from any further use of hteir services.
>
> I find that hard to believe because:
>
> 1) You allegedly managed that in under two hours after my post.

I have been after Ron May's forgeries for months now.



> 2) The only time I ever sent a complaint to the x-privat.org abuse address,
> there was no acknowledgement of when or if they took action.

See above.



> 3) You failed to state what rationale you provided to x-privat that would
> yield such rapid results.

See above.



> 4) You are posting from eternal-september.org, another free Usenet portal
> that obscures the actual sender, so your real identity and motives are
> unknown.

My Usenet posting history is for all to see.



> So you could be the same person and posted the "problem over" as quickly as
> possible in order to preempt any abuse reports by others.

So could you FTM.



> Posts like yours from anonymizing Usenet service providers can never be
> trusted. Try posting via a reputable commercial service (as little as
> $2/month; e.g. newsguy.com) or even Google, which at least includes the
> source IP address.

I'll post from wherever I want to.

Regards,

JB

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 12:30:01 AM10/11/09
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:45:46 +0100, Franklin wrote:

> Jim Logajan wrote:
>
>> Ron May <may...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:36:42 -0400, Bjorn S. wrote:
>>>> Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
>>>> Should we killfile him?
>>>
>>> Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like
>>> the asshole coward that he is.
>>
>> Anyone knowing the rudiments of Usenet operation and taking a moment
>> of observation can see you are holding a conversation with yourself.
>>
>> I see that no one has yet told you that the "X-Authenticated-User:"
>> header that x-privat.org adds to each post uniquely IDs each of its
>> users, irrespective of what those users put in the "From:" header.
>
> Darn! You told him! It's been interesting watching which identities he
> uses or which he hijacks. Here are some posts by Desk Rabbit, Snuwulf
> and Chrissy Cruiser which all shared his old same header.

Good catch, Frank!

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 11:36:46 AM10/11/09
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:13:12 -0700, Craig wrote:

> On 10/11/2009 07:16 AM, hummingbird wrote:
>> Craig and other Pricelessware people have been strongly advised to
>> remove the ISOs from their download server, but so far no action
>> has been taken.
>
> True. However, Hummingbird has been strongly advised to commit suicide
> but so far no action has been taken...

Typical Pricelessware dodge, Craig, why not tell them about your
nomination and support of a known women torturer and convicted fraud for
Pricelessware webmaster, John Fitzsimons. Google "fraud" "John
Fitzsimons"

Or explain to them why mysteriously both he and the web server owner "Q"
have disappeared once the scam hit the Usenet streets.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 11:41:12 AM10/11/09
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:23:18 +1100, Gary R. Schmidt wrote:

> Mike Ash wrote:
> [SNIP]
>> Just because you're not charging for it doesn't make it legal. Unless
>> the software in question explicitly allows such redistribution, it's not
>> allowed, free or otherwise.
>>
> *Unless the licensee agrees to such distribution*.
>
> IOW - even if the *original* license precludes redistribution, the
> entity granting the license may authorise redistribution if they so
> chose, under whatever limitations they may chose. Which is what happens
> with the Pricelessware CD.
>
> Cheers,
> Gary B-)

Excellent now produce for all to view the specific written
authorizations and other author permissions and everything will be
okey-dokey.

You can't. The Pricelessware scam is illegal in almost too many ways to
count.

You're a criminal, Craig and an asshole, a real kewl combination of
dirtbag and shithead.

xpost reinstated
alt.comp.freeware,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 11:43:10 AM10/11/09
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:06:49 -0700, Craig wrote:

> On 10/11/2009 05:36 AM, Mike Ash wrote:
>> In article<hark0v$34m$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Craig<netbu...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/10/2009 06:05 PM, Mike Ash wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> <ca5e52bc3c4bfdc9...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,


>>>> Ron May<ron...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Everything you lot post about me is complete crap.
>>>>> You're just a bunch of scum pond life and asshole cowardly trolls.
>>>>>

>>>>> I never have charged more than $30 for a Pricelesware CD. Due to the
>>>>> recession I have reduced that to $24.95 and I believe that is a fair
>>>>> price for 700MB of freeware.
>>>>

>>>> [apologies to the other rap readers for this note; I promise not to
>>>> spend too much time on this guy]
>>>>
>>>> Are you aware that "free" does not necessarily imply "free to
>>>> redistribute", and that your distribution of this CD therefore almost
>>>> certainly constitutes copyright violation...
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, you're replying to a forgery. Pricelessware is
>>> just that, priceless, aka free. If you want it, free of charge, post
>>> where it's on topic and I'd be happy to send you the disks.


>>
>> Just because you're not charging for it doesn't make it legal. Unless
>> the software in question explicitly allows such redistribution, it's not
>> allowed, free or otherwise.
>

> OK, I apologize. I see I didn't answer you directly.
>
> We have explicit permission to redistribute the software contained on
> Pricelessware disks. That is, either the license allows for it or, the
> author has given it.
>
> If you're so inclined, you can prove this to yourself. The CD index is
> available here: <http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2008/CumulativePL-CD.php>.

Bzzzzzzt what a joke, you have no *written* permissions, many authoirs
are unaware that you are distroeing their freeware *and* collecting
fees, donations, SndH and other monies, Scumbags that you all are.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 12:11:08 PM10/11/09
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:44:55 +0100, hummingbird wrote:

>>However, Hummingbird has been strongly advised to commit suicide
>>but so far no action has been taken...
>>

>>Because that would be ludicrous "advice" and rightfully ignored.
>
> Hilarious, indeed. I would never take advice from such loons.
> But I see you are true to form: attack the messenger/ignore the
> message <sigh>.
>
> Your "appointment" as the new webmaster of Pricelessware has so
> far not been inspiring. You were in a perfect position to clean up
> the Pricelessware Act, but I see no change <sigh>.

Remember Craig took the job when commanded to do so by Head Goon Ron May
after John Fitzsimons was elected Head Goon. Of course, what could Craig
do when Fitzsimons was outed....

http://preview.xrl.in/y9

<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22john+fitzsimons%22+fraud&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3MOZA_enUS347US347&ie=UTF-8>

..except take the Vice Criminality position since he phucked the goose
by collaborating with Fitzsimons in the first place.

Hey, Craig, do you wish to comment, floor is yours.

jan olieslagers

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Oct 11, 2009, 12:14:42 PM10/11/09
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Jeffrey Bloss schreef:

( ...)

Kiddie, if you must go on could you kindly do so outside
rec-aviation-piloting ? There's some real world people round, please
respect.

TIA

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 12:47:28 PM10/11/09
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Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 1:30:46 PM10/11/09
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 18:02:59 +0100, hummingbird wrote:

> 'Jeffrey Bloss' wrote thus:


>
>>On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:44:55 +0100, hummingbird wrote:
>>
>>>>However, Hummingbird has been strongly advised to commit suicide
>>>>but so far no action has been taken...
>>>>
>>>>Because that would be ludicrous "advice" and rightfully ignored.
>>>
>>> Hilarious, indeed. I would never take advice from such loons.
>>> But I see you are true to form: attack the messenger/ignore the
>>> message <sigh>.
>>>
>>> Your "appointment" as the new webmaster of Pricelessware has so
>>> far not been inspiring. You were in a perfect position to clean up
>>> the Pricelessware Act, but I see no change <sigh>.
>>
>>Remember Craig took the job when commanded to do so by Head Goon Ron May
>>after John Fitzsimons was elected Head Goon. Of course, what could Craig
>>do when Fitzsimons was outed....
>>
>>http://preview.xrl.in/y9
>>
>><http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22john+fitzsimons%22+fraud&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3MOZA_enUS347US347&ie=UTF-8>
>>
>>..except take the Vice Criminality position since he phucked the goose
>>by collaborating with Fitzsimons in the first place.
>>
>>Hey, Craig, do you wish to comment, floor is yours.
>

> I smell some more e-mails between Pricelessware goons...

You can bet your ass that none of the Pricelessware goons will comment
on Usenet.

> Pricelessware gets to be famous:
> <http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=%22pricelessware+racket%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=>

(In)famous and well deserved.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 2:02:51 PM10/11/09
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:47:35 +0200, B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson wrote:

> To rec.aviation.piloting:
>
> Sorry, that you got dragged into this mess of trolling, forging,
> defaming,... which goes on in alt.comp.freeware for months. Any
> reasonable aspect has been considered and expounded dozens of
> times, by now.

You spent days putting together the biggest and most prolific diversion
from one single, important question.

Why is it that you and the Pricelessware goons distribute freeware for
fees without the specific authors' knowledge and permissions to do so?

> Since the matter is completely OT in your group, it (IMHO) would
> be best to completely refrain from responding in this thread.
> Even requests to keep the subject out of r.a.p will just add
> fuel to the "discussion". - Probably mostly of some forgers and
> sock puppets with themselves... :-(

Brother, you will go to no ends to hide your shame.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 2:10:07 PM10/11/09
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suck the birdies cock


Jim Logajan

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Oct 11, 2009, 2:56:30 PM10/11/09
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Jeffrey Bloss <jeffre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Pricelessware scam is illegal in almost too many ways to count.

Then bring it to the attention of legal authorities. No Usenet reader has
any legal power to do anything about those sorts of allegations and I have
no doubt you understand that. You seem to be an intelligent person, but in
my very humble opinion you're letting your emotions dictate your actions.

My humble advice is to contact the copyright holders about what you believe
may be illegal use of their material and let them decide what action, if
any, is to be taken.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 2:59:47 PM10/11/09
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:44:19 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:

> hummingbird <hummingb�r...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>> Craig and other Pricelessware people have been strongly advised to

>> remove the ISOs from their download server, but so far no action
>> has been taken.
>
> If you or any other posters to a.c.f believe copyright theft is happening,
> your only legal recourse is to contact the owners of said copyrights and
> alert them to the suspected activity. It is then up to them to take legal
> action, if any.

Criminal action can be taken and investigation is under way by US and
other government LEAs.

> No amount of posting to Usenet groups can ever substitute for legal actions
> by the alleged copyright victims.

Agreed but it gets the word out.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 3:21:40 PM10/11/09
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:04:15 +0100, hummingbird wrote:

> BeAr,
> I don't know who you are accusing of trolling but my comments
> to Gary (which you jumped in and responded to) are no troll.
>
> They raise the same issue that's been around for several months
> unanswered, namely that nobody within the Pricelessware outfit
> which posts on ACF is able to provide evidence that every
> freeware program included on the Pricelessware downloadable
> CD.ISOs, have been approved by the authors.
>
> Craig appeared in this thread and provided a false link to a PWH
> website page which was pure obfuscation - it had nothing to do
> with the issue.
>
> Your earlier thread contained 1460 lines and I checked the first
> three links of scores but they did not provide the requested
> evidence.
>
> What's a guy supposed to think when there's so much diversion
> and obfuscation going on???

+1000

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 4:06:13 PM10/11/09
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:28:15 +0200, B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson wrote:

> The obfuscation of forgers posting as PL participants, trolls
> ignoring facts, and so on!? I'm sooo tired of these "games"!
> Acf *could* be such a valuable place to stop by...
>
> BeAr

Don't let the jaildoor smack your ass on the way out, Scammer.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 4:09:43 PM10/11/09
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:39:11 -0700, Craig wrote:

> On 10/10/2009 06:05 PM, Mike Ash wrote:
>> In article
>> <ca5e52bc3c4bfdc9...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
>> Ron May<ron...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Everything you lot post about me is complete crap.
>>> You're just a bunch of scum pond life and asshole cowardly trolls.
>>>
>>> I never have charged more than $30 for a Pricelesware CD. Due to the
>>> recession I have reduced that to $24.95 and I believe that is a fair
>>> price for 700MB of freeware.
>>
>> [apologies to the other rap readers for this note; I promise not to
>> spend too much time on this guy]
>>
>> Are you aware that "free" does not necessarily imply "free to
>> redistribute", and that your distribution of this CD therefore almost
>> certainly constitutes copyright violation...
>
> For what it's worth, you're replying to a forgery. Pricelessware is
> just that, priceless, aka free. If you want it, free of charge, post
> where it's on topic and I'd be happy to send you the disks.
>

> hth,

Speaking of Pricelessware, you have your own alt.comp.pricelessware
Usenet group but you continually post and crosspost OT Pricelessware
information to
alt.comp.freeware,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,
nd alt.paranormal.

Clean up your act, Craigee before you turn into Usenet Kop/Lecturer.
your morals suck and your actions speak your criminal deeds.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 11, 2009, 7:04:21 PM10/11/09
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FOAD


Jeffrey Bloss

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FOAD


Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 12, 2009, 12:53:54 AM10/12/09
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OK John, I got it, you're pissed that I took on hummy as a buddy and
flushed you out as a Usenet sociopath who invested waaaaaaaaaaaay too
much into Pricelessware.

Then got your ass handed to you b/c of it.

Time to grow up and (re)gain a life, John.

Jeffrey Bloss

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Oct 21, 2009, 11:52:35 AM10/21/09
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On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 20:24:21 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:

> Try posting via a reputable commercial service (as little as
> $2/month; e.g. newsguy.com) or even Google, which at least includes the
> source IP address.

May I? May I open up my IP address for all to see?

Now? Can I now? May I? Please?

Bird Blaster

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Oct 21, 2009, 12:07:36 PM10/21/09
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"Jeffrey Bloss" <jeffre...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Nobody cares, Tosser


Sidney Lambe

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Oct 21, 2009, 12:17:06 PM10/21/09
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Ya already replied to that. Last week.

Alzheimer's? lol

Bird Blaster

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Oct 21, 2009, 12:46:33 PM10/21/09
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"Sidney Lambe" <nos...@server.com> wrote in message
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no, it's psittacine circovirus (aka beak rot)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psittacine_beak_and_feather_disease


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