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Re: First time passenger in a GA plane - Video

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Euan Kilgour

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Dec 8, 2009, 5:21:57 AM12/8/09
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On Nov 8, 4:18 pm, A Lieberman <atl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I post this 8 minute video with the hopes others can share tips on
> what they do to make first time passengers comfortable on their first
> flight. Comments here or in the video most appreciated.
>
> Video starts with me explaining the process from startup, to runup,
> take off, cruise and landing trying to keep things in "English"  Video
> also includes in-flight reactions from the passenger.
>
> Couple of things to note about the passenger.  She is not a roller
> coaster ride and doen't like heights.  Because of this, I modified my
> flying to half standard rate turns whenever possible and a steeper
> then normal approach to not feel so close to the tree tops on short
> final.
>
> Interestingly enough, the camera doesn't show the "bouncing" but that
> was due to me putting in flaps and transitioning from 10 knots winds
> aloft to calm on the ground.  Rather then explain "wind-shear", I just
> blamed it on the smog: We had very, very minimal turbulence, something
> seasoned GA passengers wouldn't think about but looking at her, she
> was kinda getting green around the gills.
>
> Video also includes intercom and ATC communications with a
> "sightseeing request" from me to fly over my house.
>
> While not her favorite thing she has done in life, she was ok with
> it.  Given a "goal" to go to New Orleans, I think she would go, but to
> go boring holes in the sky, I don't think I will see her in the right
> seat.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfDNuuakA5o

Loved it, you covered all the bases with respect to breaking in a new
passenger, I even learned a few things. Just one question: I thought
it was illegal to record and replay ATC comms publicly? It certainly
is where I fly.

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Mike Ash

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Dec 8, 2009, 10:29:38 AM12/8/09
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A Lieberman <atl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 8, 4:21�am, Euan Kilgour <mightymoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Loved it, �you covered all the bases with respect to breaking in a new
> > passenger, I even learned a few things. �Just one question: �I thought
> > it was illegal to record and replay ATC comms publicly? �It certainly

> > is where I fly.- Hide quoted text -
>
> Good question. My thoughts are I don't think it's illegal.
>
> I think it's illegal to record off a scanner and so call share it but
> that is not the case here since I am not recording off a scanner.
>
> Maybe somebody else can enlighten us what the actual regulation is if
> there is a regulation with regards to recording ATC transmissions.

I have no idea about the regulations, but the existence of places like
liveatc.net (which stream ATC comms over the internet from all sorts of
different places) suggests that it's legal, although nothing says they
couldn't be operating on the sly.

--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon

Mxsmanic

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Dec 8, 2009, 4:14:41 PM12/8/09
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Euan Kilgour writes:

> Loved it, you covered all the bases with respect to breaking in a new
> passenger, I even learned a few things. Just one question: I thought
> it was illegal to record and replay ATC comms publicly? It certainly
> is where I fly.

It's still quite legal in the U.S., thank goodness. A lot of other countries
have bizarre, archaic policies concerning ATC (the U.K. is an often-cited
example).

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