Peeing in a condom catheter with a leg bag, David Sedaris has a humorous take on it.
harold
leg bag are essential parts of a successful flight. David Sedaris has
a different take on the product. He's hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBdymtyXt8Y
Phillip LaBerge
I tried to watch the posted video on You Tube and got only a black
screen. No video. Anyone else have this problem? Any solutions?
Phillip LaBerge
Concord, Ga.
cf...@charter.net
Charlie
Barny
Red Wings games.
Merry Christmas,
Bruce
Shiflett Wave Camp '04
Ed Winchester
I used to have that problem with any video. I didn't have the latest
version of the Flash player installed. You might check that.
Ed
Bill Bullimore
Kellerman Relief System which deposits either into a catheter bag, or
outside via relief tube installed in the glider.
Whilst flying at Jaca a few years ago, after a fellow pilot was
complaining about the supine position of modern gliders making it
difficult to use his funnel/cup device, we showed him the KRS and he
became very enthusiastic. So much so that we gave him a condom, tube and
bag to try it out.
I was intrigued to hear him on the radio landing back early, so once we
all got back, he explained exactly what had happened, we were
incapacitated for at least an hour, weeping with laughter. Here is his
story, imagine it being told in his soft scottish accent:
"I rigged up the relief system, took off and got about 100km down the
mountains when I felt it was time to use it. It all went well for the
first few seconds, but then I was aware of some 'back-pressure', the
condom was swelling up, but the bag was not filling up. Much to my
horror, I realised the tube had been trapped and squashed when I closed
the conopy down on it, so I was snookered.
Well it's very difficult to stop peeing, just like that, the condom
swelled to enormous proportions and then let go with a bang, covering all
of me and the cockpit.
So that is why I came back early, for a big clean-up operation!".
There, but for the grace of God, go many of us....
cheers Bill
David Salmon
One was the pilot who plumbed himself in to the glider pee tube using a
self-adhesive condom, and then forgot when he got out in a hurry to clear
the runway. He got a sharp reminder.
The other was the pilot who tried to mechanise the process, and tried a
lash-up in his bathroom, using a car windscreen washer pump, battery, and
one of those shower attachments that you push onto a tap. He found that he
was getting sucked in, couldn't reach to
switch off, and had to call his wife in to help. What questions she asked
have not been recorded.
So be careful.
Dave
Jim Beckman
>I can add a couple of anecdotes to this erudite thread.
Here's another. An old story about a pilot who ran the relief tube down
into the wheel well of his glider, so it wouldn't dangle in the
slipstream. To use it, he would just put the wheel down until he had
completed his mission. Worked great in the air.
Next landing, he rolled off to the side of the runway, but then just sat
in the glider. When his pals ran over to see what was the matter, he was
sitting there with a really pained look on his face. Seems the relief
tube had gotten wrapped around the axle and as the glider rolled out, it
started to sort of wind him up. Through clenched teeth he asked if the
guys could just "roll me backwards about twenty feet, will ya, please?"
Jim Beckman
John Marsh
Morning Bill
I,ve read about them heard stories about them but where
do you get them from ?? My local chemist say,s i need a perscription!!!!
Thats as may be, but not for going for a pee not yet anyway.
John
Chris Nicholas
John, I talked to a local pharmacist about why I wanted to try one, here
in the UK, and obtained a single sample – which I had to buy – without a
prescription. Maybe it depends on the individual chemist – I went to a
small, one-man outfit.
I have not yet tried it – it came with a short tube attached capable of
being connected to a longer one and a bag, but I have not engineered the
rest of it.
There is some good advice, as well as some funny stories, if you go to the
thread started by TangoMike24 on Mar 21 2000, titled: “Pee System--How to”
Chris N.
brianDG303
John Marsh
year
John
Larry Goddard
Andy
wrote:
In US they are available mail order from pharmaceutical suppliers.
Much cheaper to buy in bulk than individually. I have used
sportaid.com. I would expect they ship overseas if you don't find a
supplier in UK.
Andy
Kevin Western
>On Jan 2, 4:30=A0am, John Marsh
>wrote:
>> Morning Bill
>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I,ve read about them =A0heard stories
>abo=
>ut them but where
>> do you get them from ?? My local chemist say,s i need a
perscription!!!!
>> Thats as may be, but not for going for a pee not yet anyway.
>
>In US they are available mail order from pharmaceutical suppliers.
>Much cheaper to buy in bulk than individually. I have used
>sportaid.com. I would expect they ship overseas if you don't find a
>supplier in UK.
>
>Andy
got the prices to hand but any pharmacy can supply though they may have to
order for you. (should be next day ) Bags are also available in various
sizes and long/short tube lengths. You may have to specify a size for best
fit! they usually come in boxes of 30 but if they have regular customers
may split a box.
Kevin
Big Wings
http://www.rochestermedical.co.uk/clear_advantage.htm
Freephone 0800 0121 699
I use their catheters but prefer the 32 oz bags from Oxford Aero un the
US.
http://www.oxaero.com/
Stephen Haley
if you want to try before you buy. They have a huuge range of styles
more details on their main website http://www.coloplast.co.uk/
One word of warning based on personal experience - always keep an eye on
external air temps if using the tube overboard method:)
rgds
Stephen
Papa3
> One word of warning based on personal experience - always keep an eye on
> external air temps if using the tube overboard method:)
>
> rgds
> Stephen
Which is why some of us who fly in colder climates here in the
northeastern US have a T fitting in the line where the condom is
attached. A second length of tubing is attached to the T and is long
enough to reach your mouth, so that you can blow the line clear as
soon as you are finished peeing. I know, I know...
P3
Martin Gregorie
> You can get samples from http://www.charter-healthcare.co.uk/ if you
> want to try before you buy. They have a huuge range of styles more
> details on their main website http://www.coloplast.co.uk/
>
Does anybody in the UK supply the Colder connectors that Darryl mentions
on his blog page?
Darryl: it looks like Colder have rearranged their site. Your reference
now points to an 'our page has moved' page and I can't now tell which
connector model you recommended. Did you mean the PLC series PLCD1704
body and PLCD2204 hose barb? Those are '1/4" flow' units.
One point I don't understand: do I need both units valved or just the
pilot side? The comment about the glider side whistling would tend to
indicate that there is no valve on that side.
Stephen: both the sites you mention are inaccessible at present (03 Jan,
13:42), but both are pingable, so I suppose they'll reappear in a day or
two. BTW, 'host' shows that they share an IP.
--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
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Paul Remde
I have the Colder CPC fittings on my web site. I also give some advice on
which ones to use. Shipping to the U.K. for those very lightweight items is
inexpensive if you use USPS 1st Class International Airmail - around $5.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cpc.htm
Good Soaring,
Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com
"Martin Gregorie" <mar...@see.sig.for.address.invalid> wrote in message
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Martin Gregorie
> Hi Martin,
>
> I have the Colder CPC fittings on my web site. I also give some advice
> on which ones to use. Shipping to the U.K. for those very lightweight
> items is inexpensive if you use USPS 1st Class International Airmail -
> around $5. http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/cpc.htm
>
Thanks, Paul, I'll bear that in mind.
My Libelle has a pee outlet, complete with cute draft-zapping wooden
plug, installed behind the stick, so its about time I got round to making
up the rest of the system before the next season starts.
ContestID67
Any comments/corrections/complaints are appreciated.
http://derosaweb.net/aviation/relief
Regards, John "My $0.02" DeRosa
ablac...@comcast.net
Nice guide:
I use a hybrid approach. I have both a factory pee tube and carry a
urilogical leg bag that I stow behind my right elbow when in use. I
carry the biggest bag I can find so I have every incentive to hydrate
before and during the flight. Out west where we can get pretty high
the cooler temps will cause your body to expel more fluid and the
bigger bags don't take any extra space rolled up. On the occasions
when I fill the bag I have a separate hose from the bag dump valve to
the pee tube that runs overboard. The nice thing about this
arrangement is that you don't have to try to fly, hold the gear
halfway down and pee all at the same time. Also, you can pee in a
thermal or wherever you like without having to worry about who's below
you. At least for me I find it a lot faster and less stressful to
empty a bag than to empty my bladder so I spend less time flailing
around with the gear down - plus I have to empty the bag maybe once
per flight versus often multiple times for my bladder. Only once have
I forgotten to re-close the bag dump valve - it was a good learning
experience.
With another hose it's possible to flush drinking water through the
pee tube system to keep urine from siphoning into the gear well after
use. I won't explain the details, but suffuce to say there are simpler
versus more complex ways to accomplish this task depending on how
squeamish you are. I also recommend the self-sealing quick connect
fittings to avoid spills. Wings and Wheels stocks them - perhaps other
soaring supplies dealers as well.
Maybe I'm cheap, or averse to pain "down there", but I don't don the
catheter until I need to use it the first time in flight. As I get
older this practice is increasingly the victory of hope over
experience, but I don't find it that hard to don the catheter in
flight and it avoids awkward encounters with ground personnel - as
well as avoidable wincing after the flight should I not have the need.
Here are some sites that I have used and appear to have decent
prices. Keep in mind that the manufacturers will send you free
samples if you make a request on their web sites. This can help you
confirm sizing or evaluate other human factors before committing to a
quantity purchase.
Coming up with a "no fuss" system has made a huge difference in my
enjoyment of cross-country soaring. If you don't have a system, or
aren't totally happy with the system you have I highly recommend you
put some energy into devising one. Years ago I carried ziploc bags and
would limit fluid intake to avoid the hassle. One stupid offield
landing in a dehydrated stupor cured me of that.
9B
Martin Gregorie
> I put together a how-to web site which you might find interesting. Any
> comments/corrections/complaints are appreciated.
>
> http://derosaweb.net/aviation/relief
>
Thanks for that. Your advice goes well with Darryl's construction HOWTO:
the two articles complement each other nicely.
BTW, the Mentor people have changed their website so their catheter
measurement scale is no longer accessible, but the Hollister one is still
down-loadable.