Best Looking Sailplane
glider
Abnd it's end of season, so we need to know if the Minimoa or the
ASW-20 is best looking sailplane. Maybe the DG-800?
Dan
ASW-20....no contest!
Dave Nadler
Mike
> On Nov 1, 1:02 pm, glider <gli...@tds.net> wrote:
>
> > This is a test to see if it works.
>
> > Abnd it's end of season, so we need to know if the Minimoa or the
> > ASW-20 is best looking sailplane. Maybe the DG-800?
>
>
> See ya, Dave "YO electric"
HP-18 is still stunning!
The Griffin's
"Mike" <mike_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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GM
The Glasfluegel H301 'Libelle' or H201 'Standard Libelle', no question
in my mind!
Martin Gregorie
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rlovinggood
beautiful designs to choose from.
Current generation of single seaters: ASG-29
Previous generation of single seaters: ASW-27
And the generation before that: ASW-20. Especially the WL version
with the 16.6m wingtips being hoisted up on the wire. Beautiful!
And the generation before that: LS1-c/d. You really didn't think I
would leave that out, did you? :-)
And here's where I need the first two volumes of Martin Simone's
trilogy on gliders, "Sailplanes 1920 - 1945" and "Sailplanes 1945 -
1965" to complement my volume "Sailplanes 1965 - 2000". But without
those reference books, I'll go with the OP's proposal and say
Minimoa. He's probably had one or two and knows what they look like
"in the flesh."
Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
PS: One of my favorites to see climbing in a thermal when I'm out
flying: Turkey Vulture, Cathartes aura
vontresc
plywood. :-)
Hard to beat a Ka-6
Pete
Owner of N4793T
Martin Gregorie
> None of that plastic stuff looks right. Give me some good old German
> plywood. :-)
>
> Hard to beat a Ka-6
>
For my money the best looking of the wooden gliders is the Fafnir.
Peter Smith
wrote:
All sailplanes are beautiful, but take a look at the National Soaring
Museum's newly restored Kirby Gull. Now that's a really beautiful ship!
Tony
Nah the most beautiful must be the Cherokee II
oh wait, we're not supposed to just post the type of glider that we
fly/own??
Libelles sure are pretty...
too bad that Kirby Gull never got to and probably never will fly after
such a great restoration.
Wayne Paul
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder
Wayne
http://tinyurl.com/N990-6F
"Mike" <mike_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4cd995f7-abb0-4764...@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
HP-18 is still stunning!
RRK
Gentelmen,
and the winner is: SZD 24 Foka-5. Delightful to fly, too.
asw22...@gmail.com
http://www.gliderforum.com/photos/show-album.asp?albumid=126¤tpos=1
http://www.gliderforum.com/photos/show-album.asp?albumid=141¤tpos=2
http://silentflight.com/asw22ag.jpg
http://silentflight.com/asw22_2.jpg
Then I am biased...
Al
JS
Jim
Craig
asw22...@gmail.com
> Jim
This was best looking glider thread :)
now if you are talking 13M gliders then it has to be the H101 Salto.
But then again I am biased ;)
Al
KevinFinke
finally said I've got to get involved in this sport. I'd seen photos
of other gliders before, but I fell in love with that glider. And
you'll always remember your first. 20 years later and I know own a
very special version of an ASW 20.
My vote for the most beautiful sailplane is for the one you fly.
Nothing will beat that!
jsbrake
sailplane in the world, back in '68 or '69. A very beautiful ship,
indeed. There's one at my club that I see either coming out of the
box or thermalling above me.
Given that the Libelle is the "little sister" to my Kestrel 19, I
certainly see a gorgeous family resemblance, but I prefer the long,
slim "legs" of my mistress.
ZZ
ASW17, third is the Kestrel 17.
Paul
ZZ
Burt Compton - Marfa
By the way, it is NOT the "End of the Season" in the USA sunbelt.
Every year in the fall I hear this rumor.
Yes, most contests are over, but only about 250 pilots participate in
them.
From Florida across to California hundreds of pilots keep flyin' and
enjoy some of our best soaring conditions.
Our Marfa, west Texas wave window open to 30,000'. Thermals year-
round.
Tows / Instruction / Checkrides by appointment.
Burt
www.flygliders.com
Open Cirrus, ASK-13, DG-1000T, etc.
mark...@aol.com
absolutely breathtaking. On the ground, it sits up like a WWII
fighter. The ship fairly oozes testosterone.
#2. AS-W22. For utter beauty of line and proportion in flight.
Ungainly on the ground.
#3. Libelle with racing canopy for classic lines.
#4. ASW-W20a. Form-follows-function. The ultimate all-around best
glider ever built. Beautiful in form but even more fror what is it
capable of. Images of the Four-On-the-Floor-Gang blasting down
the Appalachians with bags of pennies and lead shot as seat cushions,
wings bowing mightily in the turbulence.
kirk.stant
with the LS6 closely behind (bias showing, there). The newer 27s and
29s do not have the same, perfect proportions - especially in the
tail.
Good thing air is blind!
But I guess I'm out of touch because I find the Libelle to be a bit
odd looking. I think the contemporary ASW-15 is much prettier.
But the absolute best looking glider is the one you can only see from
the inside - it's the one you are flying!
Kirk
66
Werner Schmidt
> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:31:27 -0800, vontresc wrote:
>
>> None of that plastic stuff looks right. Give me some good old German
>> plywood. :-)
>>
>> Hard to beat a Ka-6
>>
> For my money the best looking of the wooden gliders is the Fafnir.
indeed, it is. The very best. But not for my *money* (couldn't pay one) ;-)
Regards
Werner
asw22...@gmail.com
>
> My vote for the most beautiful sailplane is for the one you fly.
> Nothing will beat that!
Tell that to the guy sitting in the PW5...
Whilst he/she cant see how ugly it is when sitting in it..
He/She has to be led to it and from blindfolded so as not to be made
aware just how ugly it is.
Al
KevinFinke
beautiful sailplane? I don't consider a PW-5 a sailplane. It's a
"world class" glider. Nothing more.
GARY BOGGS CFIG
> Hallo Martin Gregorie, Du schriebst am 02.11.2009 00:30
dddNothing beats the gullwing Petrel in my opinion
Bob
he made. I am lucky enough to see it from the air 3-4 times a year.
Come and see it fly and you'll know!
Bob
Andreas Maurer
wrote:
>I am a 20B owner but I have to agree...the 22 has it beat Second is the
>ASW17, third is the Kestrel 17.
If you like the 17 and the 22... check out the new Binder EB-29 - its
fuselage is a combination of the 17 and a T-tail.
Not to mention the nice aspect ratio of 51...
http://www.binder-flugmotorenbau.de/eb29.html
Bye
Andreas
Udo
are they still using the ASW 25 airfoil on the EB 29?
Udo
On Nov 3, 10:22 am, Andreas Maurer <mau...@funsystem.de> wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:15:29 -0800, ZZ <zzuluz...@earthlink.net>
Andreas Maurer
> Andreas,
>are they still using the ASW 25 airfoil on the EB 29?
>Udo
Hi Udo,
I don't think so - the wing (same as EB-28) is said to be completely
new (it's got a different planform than the ASH-25 wing, the airbrakes
being on the inner wing) and each part of the wing is significantly
lighter than on the 25. It's interesting that the roll rate of the
EB-28 is nearly twice as fast as on the ASH-25, despite its larger
wing span.
However, the main advantage of the EB-28 was/is its higher wing
loading compared to a stock ASH-25 - since the much smaller ASH-31 is
not significantly inferior to the current open class gliders I dare to
predict that the EB-29's airfoils are slightly inferior to th latest
Schleicher airfoils used on the ASG-29, ASH-310 and ASH-31.
On the other hand... aspect ratio and wing loading rulez - and this is
where the EB-29 excels.
Exciting times if you happen to need to invest 400.000 bucks...
Bye
Andreas
wby0...@aol.com
sailplane in the world. What they don't realize is that I mean a PW-5
with long blond hair.
bbcwor...@hotmail.com
> This is a test to see if it works.
>
> Abnd it's end of season, so we need to know if the Minimoa or the
> ASW-20 is best looking sailplane. Maybe the DG-800?
Seems to me we've been here before; and, of course, the answer remains
unchanged: the 1937 DFS Reiher. It's the Penelope Cruz of sailplanes.
http://vintagesailplanes.de/REIHER.HTM
There: that settled it once and for all!
Bo Brunsgaard
Uncle Fuzzy
Would you mind explaining that??
Free Flight 107
My vote is for the 1937 DFS Reiher, hands down, but post WW2 Libelle!
FreeFlight
Chip Bearden
might be one you've only seen pictures of, one you own or have lusted
after, or one that triggers certain memories. Then there's
"striking" (almost any Open Class glider) vs. "beautiful". There's
pure superficial beauty vs. the whole package. There's timeless beauty
vs. the latest look. And so on.
I agree the ASW 20 is one of the most beautiful sailplanes ever
created. Subsequent single-seat models--ASW 24 (what I've flown for
the past 18 years), ASW 27 & ASG 29--are very pretty. But to me, the
most beautiful sailplane is the one I grew up seeing in person at our
local Midwestern USA contests and in photos: Len Neimi's Sisu 1A. Alex
Aldott's pic of world free distance holder Al Parker's Sisu stood up
on one wingtip under a Texas sky still gives me chills whenever I see
it. I've always regretted that V-tails went out of style. Of course, I
never had to launch or land with one. :)
Chip Bearden
ASW 24 "JB"
USA
Mike
Chip,
Taking off and landing a sailplane with a V tail is pretty much like
taking off and landing a sailplane with a T tail. Maybe not quite the
rudder authority at the end of a landing in a high cross wind, but
nothing dangerous that I have noticed.
It is an interesting story as to why V tails went out of favor, at
least one of the reasons.
Ross Nolan shared the following link on the HP glider Yahoo group.
http://glidebarambah.thehorseyard.net/klausholighaus.pdf
Mike
sisu1a
-snip-
> > Len Neimi's Sisu 1A. Alex
> > Aldott's pic of world free distance holder Al Parker's Sisu stood up
> > on one wingtip under a Texas sky still gives me chills whenever I see
> > it. I've always regretted that V-tails went out of style. Of course, I
> > never had to launch or land with one. :)
>
> > Chip Bearden
> > ASW 24 "JB"
> > USA
Not all V tails are created equal... The Sisu had plenty of
simultaneous elevator and rudder authority and if you were put in it
blindfolded and flew it you would never suspect it wasn't a T- at any
phase of flight. The same can't be said for most others though...
Chip, I entirely agree that the pic of Al doing a hammerhead in his
ship is THE quintessential encapsulation of beauty in the form of a
sailplane. I didn't throw that out there in this thread as I am
obviously jaded.
-Paul Hanson
Sisu 1a, s/n 101, N6390X
sisu1a
& for those who haven't seen that shot yet...
http://bauerairgroup.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/v49n3_sisu1a.54235740.jpg
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>
> Gentelmen,
> and the winner is: SZD 24 Foka-5. Delightful to fly, too.
In my opinion SZD-24-4 "Foka 4" looks better.
But my number one is SZD-55!
regards
--
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www.aeroklub.deblin.pl, my photos at airliners.net - http://tiny.pl/rcwl
and some more photos http://tiny.pl/hxw5s
ipearx
'glider[_2_ Wrote:
> ;710635']ASW-20 is best looking sailplane. Maybe the DG-800?
I do agree that the ASW-20 is very nice looking. My vote however would
have to go to the far more uncommon DG808. I think it looks great from
the outside, somehow quite sporty. I also like the DG cockpit design,
it's very tidy, and you can get the panel in carbon fibre which is
pretty cool. The long canopy is impressive too, inside and out.
There aren't many good quality pics of it, here are some favs:
http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/Data/Posters/p-dg808s-supersperger2.jpg
http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/Data/Posters/p-dg-800b-frankreich-1.jpg
http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/Data/Posters/p-dg-808b-dresse.jpg
internals:
http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_40d0117b06.jpg.jpg
http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/uploads/RTEmagicC_316d94af8f.jpg.jpg
ooh luxurious...
--
ipearx
asw22...@gmail.com
> 'glider[_2_ Wrote:
>
> > ;710635']ASW-20 is best looking sailplane. Maybe the DG-800?
>
> I do agree that the ASW-20 is very nice looking. My vote however would
> have to go to the far more uncommon DG808. I think it looks great from
> the outside, somehow quite sporty. I also like the DG cockpit design,
> it's very tidy, and you can get the panel in carbon fibre which is
> pretty cool. The long canopy is impressive too, inside and out.
>
> There aren't many good quality pics of it, here are some favs:http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/Data/Posters/p-dg808s-supersperger2.jpghttp://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/Data/Posters/p-dg-800b-frankreich-1.jpghttp://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/Data/Posters/p-dg-808b-dresse.jpg
>
> ooh luxurious...
>
> --
> ipearx
Wings are too short....
Still the ASW22 has it in my book.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sTXMCCfA3M&feature=related
Al
Alex
> This is a test to see if it works.
>
> Abnd it's end of season, so we need to know if the Minimoa or the
There can be no doubt that with form following function, beauty in
the eye of the beholder, that the GAPA PW-2 is the most beautiful
sailplane ever designed. The lineage of the PW-5 is apparant in the
design of it's tail, and the influence of the Italians who designed
the
VESPA is obvious in it's elegant windscreen.
asw22...@gmail.com
That is FUGLY...
T8
wrote:
>
> Still the ASW22 has it in my book.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sTXMCCfA3M&feature=related
>
Nice, but the tail's too big :-).
The best looking glider is the one you dreamed about owning for about
20 years and took a second job in order to buy.
In my case, this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAPyzSjNGAs
-T8
--=JJay=--
>> Still the ASW22 has it in my book.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sTXMCCfA3M&feature=related
>>
>
> Nice, but the tail's too big :-).
I was about to say the same :]
What glider is in video, Ventus?
T8
> What glider is in video, Ventus?
Same bird, at rest http://tinyurl.com/yjxnuel
-T8
Dan
ASW-20
Hands Down!
Dan
ASW-20 WO
asw22...@gmail.com
Wings are too short... :)
Al
--=JJay=--
> Same bird, at rest http://tinyurl.com/yjxnuel
Nice bird, but still SZD-55 is slightly better looking ;)
sisu1a
> T8 pisze:
>
>
> Nice bird, but still SZD-55 is slightly better looking ;)
>
The 55 is alright, but I'm more partial to the 59 (yeah, I'm biased...
s/n B2157 ;). The Dianna 2 is pretty sexy though too...
-Paul
Uncle Fuzzy
Too skinny.... but that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to take her out!